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adultchatpay · 02-01-2013, 05:33 PM

X-sales suck!

Slappin Fish · 02-02-2013, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by selena

It's pre-checked, but it's pretty obviously pre-checked. That's much better than the buried-under-the-fold stuff that was going on awhile back.

nevermind..

alias · 02-02-2013, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Allison

I was always confused by this. Doesn't it say:

1) You get the site free
2) You get Premier Passport for 2 days that rebills at $39.95 (you can't opt out of this)
30 There are 2 bonus offers, that you can opt out of. One rebills at $49 and the other at $39.

http://www.scambook.com/search/repor...r+passportgoog

I don't think #2 complies with Visa Regulations and pretty sure the term FREE is regulated by the FTC: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/guides/free.htm

(f) Introductory offers. (1) No ``Free'' offer should be made in connection with the introduction of a new product or service offered for sale at a specified price unless the offeror expects, in good faith, to discontinue the offer after a limited time and to commence selling the product or service promoted, separately, at the same price at which it was promoted with the ``Free'' offer.

Does not look legit.

crockett · 02-03-2013, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Pretty clear it's a free 2 day trial and a couple of x-sales.

Nothing special or illegal about that.

The customer only has to uncheck the "bonus" box and cancel the membership immediately.

And of course, if they don't do that and get pissed off when they see their statement...banks do chargebacks on porn sites with no questions asked.

So they get their money back and the site gets chargebacks against it.

If you have a site that really has value, you don't need to play the x-sales game.
But I do admit I've seen a few peoples numbers from a few years back when x-sales were huge. And they were making millions off of them every month.

I think I have to agree with Robbie on this one..

I think Xsales are pretty scummy but at least they are presenting the info in a pretty obvious place and letting you know. It's not like it's hidden way down at the bottom of the page or somewhere not very noticeable. (assuming they honor the cancel and don't bill you anyway)

Keep in mind this stuff happens in mainstream as well. Go check out places like FreeCreditReport.com and they pull almost the same shit. They offer free trials that automatically rebill. Granted they aren't offering 2 of cross sales to boot lol but they do try by upsales to the other CRA's.

Not to mention even inside the members area, it's loaded with upsales all over the place. The biggest kicker is you can't even cancel via their web page, you have to call them to stop the subscription.

Then you have places like GoDaddy.com with shit loads of upsales and always trying to push 2 year registrations/renewals as default. Mainstream is almost if not just as scammy as this shit.

StinkyPink · 02-03-2013, 01:43 AM

You guys are crazy... install any freeware and you get tons of preclicked boxes to add software and toolbars that THEY make money on. Sometimes you even have to click "custom install" to uncheck these, otherwise you are completely unaware. Sure its not exactly 40 bucks on a CC, However sometimes it is marketing data collection and sometimes (even if it is virus free) it can be programmed horribly and freeze up computers or popups or bookmarks or shortcuts or preferences or whatever!

Kasumi · 02-03-2013, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allison

I was always confused by this. Doesn't it say:

1) You get the site free
2) You get Premier Passport for 2 days that rebills at $39.95 (you can't opt out of this)
30 There are 2 bonus offers, that you can opt out of. One rebills at $49 and the other at $39.

http://www.scambook.com/search/repor...r+passportgoog

I don't think #2 complies with Visa Regulations and pretty sure the term FREE is regulated by the FTC: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/guides/free.htm

(f) Introductory offers. (1) No ``Free'' offer should be made in connection with the introduction of a new product or service offered for sale at a specified price unless the offeror expects, in good faith, to discontinue the offer after a limited time and to commence selling the product or service promoted, separately, at the same price at which it was promoted with the ``Free'' offer.

can they be reported somewhere? does VISA have a monitoring department or something?

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StinkyPink It's all goooood. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Hoe Stroll Posts: 1,591	You guys are crazy... install any freeware and you get tons of preclicked boxes to add software and toolbars that THEY make money on. Sometimes you even have to click "custom install" to uncheck these, otherwise you are completely unaware. Sure its not exactly 40 bucks on a CC, However sometimes it is marketing data collection and sometimes (even if it is virus free) it can be programmed horribly and freeze up computers or popups or bookmarks or shortcuts or preferences or whatever!