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JFK · 02-04-2013, 07:23 PM

fitty urgent trafic

2013 · 02-04-2013, 07:36 PM

I don't really care but I'll give you an example of a guy that started his cam site last week https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1097005&highlight=curvy

He's a good guy, but his site is shit u can't do that these days you need to just get paid promoting the shit... as i said someone will have to bump this thread because it seems like your site is going to end up a 404 page

I hope this page get's your site some attention but if i clicked your site id block it so i wouldn't have to go there again.

sungat123 · 02-05-2013, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

Hey ad sellers, PLEASE don't sell him any advertising for his site yet. That would just be raping the poor guy.

sungat123, please take our advice : Fix your website first. Make it look ALOT better. Fix all of the dead links.

Create model profiles for each of your models. Give your customers something to do, read and click on so they stay on your site.

Add a forum to your site. http://vbulletin.com. This gives users something else to do, and keeps them coming back to view updates, and gives you a place to place ads later if you want to that hopefully compliments your site, not competes with it.

Remove the competing ads - especially they "Dont pay for webcam chat ever again" ad. You are shooting yourself in the foot with an ad like that.

infact i am not in very hurry. i also need some time before adverting the site
your advices are valuable
thanks for all share

sungat123 · 02-05-2013, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by adultforum

Thank you sungat123 for your nice words, do i know you?

yes friend
i am webmaster . i have been looking forward to advance in live cam site
i am new here but hope i will establish my self

adultmobile · 02-05-2013, 09:02 AM

It is true the livejasmin guys started a site for the model "jasmin" alone, with buggy firecracker soft, then added few gf's, and posting here in gfy may have looked like hey this is losers with broken english.
So respects to the guy who tries, how many of you are running own cam site with models online, after all.
And that's not the first new cam site with all models offline, actually I could list dozens of cam sites with zero online models in this moment

Just this was 10 years ago when jasmin, mfc and so on started, and it was easier to start. Now we're in 2013, and be as smart as jasmin or mfc 10 years ago, or more smart than them, it is not enough. You can have the same or better site and software as mfc, jasmin or anyone, and the best strategy what to do, still you fail if budget is $500. You need simply lots of money to invest, added to do all well.

Search in past threads about cam sites here, there's agreement that to launch a cam site you need as minumum several $100,000's (most of which for buy traffic and pay models a bonus to sit on an unknown new site) and still can fail, if you not quickly end up doing a few thousand dollar per day sales from returning customers.

For this reason just a dozen of cam sites exists, and the thousands of others is white labels or affiliates. Otherwise, everyone had run the own cam site with 3 models and be happy.

Bottom line: either you invest half million dollar in a cam site, or you be an affiliate.

x-rate · 02-05-2013, 09:07 AM

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1098362
You are selling it or you wanna run it?

Tjeezers · 02-05-2013, 09:40 AM

Google Expert · 02-05-2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sungat123

i can bear 5$ per 1000 clicks banner ads e

oh, so you want clicked traffic for $0.005 / click

why so modest?

xNetworx · 02-05-2013, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Cylon

oh, so you want clicked traffic for $0.005 / click

why so modest?

You with bluedesignstudios.com?

2intense · 02-05-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CamBoss

You with bluedesignstudios.com?

2013 · 02-05-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CamBoss

You with bluedesignstudios.com?

busted

Kovachi · 02-05-2013, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

It is true the livejasmin guys started a site for the model "jasmin" alone, with buggy firecracker soft, then added few gf's, and posting here in gfy may have looked like hey this is losers with broken english.
So respects to the guy who tries, how many of you are running own cam site with models online, after all.
And that's not the first new cam site with all models offline, actually I could list dozens of cam sites with zero online models in this moment

Just this was 10 years ago when jasmin, mfc and so on started, and it was easier to start. Now we're in 2013, and be as smart as jasmin or mfc 10 years ago, or more smart than them, it is not enough. You can have the same or better site and software as mfc, jasmin or anyone, and the best strategy what to do, still you fail if budget is $500. You need simply lots of money to invest, added to do all well.

Search in past threads about cam sites here, there's agreement that to launch a cam site you need as minumum several $100,000's (most of which for buy traffic and pay models a bonus to sit on an unknown new site) and still can fail, if you not quickly end up doing a few thousand dollar per day sales from returning customers.

For this reason just a dozen of cam sites exists, and the thousands of others is white labels or affiliates. Otherwise, everyone had run the own cam site with 3 models and be happy.

Bottom line: either you invest half million dollar in a cam site, or you be an affiliate.

Half million? You invested around $300 in tubecamgirl.

Google Expert · 02-05-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CamBoss

You with bluedesignstudios.com?

No, i had some great designs done by them so I recommend them in my sig. I have no idea why you are having problems, bluedesignstudios work with lots of top programs and webmaster without any issues. They are top notch in my book.

2MuchMark · 02-05-2013, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Search in past threads about cam sites here, there's agreement that to launch a cam site you need as minumum several $100,000's (most of which for buy traffic and pay models a bonus to sit on an unknown new site) and still can fail, if you not quickly end up doing a few thousand dollar per day sales from returning customers.

For this reason just a dozen of cam sites exists, and the thousands of others is white labels or affiliates. Otherwise, everyone had run the own cam site with 3 models and be happy.

Bottom line: either you invest half million dollar in a cam site, or you be an affiliate.

That is not even close to being true. You don't have to invest anywhere near to what this poster said.

First, anyone can launch a cam site. There are dozens of products out there to help you do it, including our own at http://www.2Much.net, and there are plenty of "free" products out there too.

What it really takes, is know-how. You have to be smart when running a cam site. Even if you are a single solo model chatting alone, you still need to be smart. How smart? You need to be smart enough to understand these facts:

- A chat site is about CHAT. Your models need to communicate with your customers. If your models can't communicate and sell to your customers, your site will fail.

- Follow your niche. If you think naked girls are only sexy wearing little pink socks on their little feet, then your webcam chat site should be all about sexy naked girls wearing sexy socks. If you're into messy, your site should be all and only about, messy.

- Your chat models need to be CHARMING and CARE ABOUT THE CUSTOMER. Too many idiot chat models are so self absorbed they can't be bothered to welcome a new customer into their room, let alone say "thank you for choosing me".

- Your chat models represent your brand. Too many site owners hire just anyone to go on camera. If she's gross, boring, stupid, self absorbed, your customers will attribute these properties to YOU, and never come back.

It is not easy to compete against the MFC's of the world, but its not impossible either. The right approach, some basic business sense, and lots of dedication will take you very far in your live webcam business. No Half-a-million in the bank necessary.

Marcus Aurelius · 02-05-2013, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

That is not even close to being true. You don't have to invest anywhere near to what this poster said.

First, anyone can launch a cam site. There are dozens of products out there to help you do it, including our own at http://www.2Much.net, and there are plenty of "free" products out there too.

What it really takes, is know-how. You have to be smart when running a cam site. Even if you are a single solo model chatting alone, you still need to be smart. How smart? You need to be smart enough to understand these facts:

- A chat site is about CHAT. Your models need to communicate with your customers. If your models can't communicate and sell to your customers, your site will fail.

- Follow your niche. If you think naked girls are only sexy wearing little pink socks on their little feet, then your webcam chat site should be all about sexy naked girls wearing sexy socks. If you're into messy, your site should be all and only about, messy.

- Your chat models need to be CHARMING and CARE ABOUT THE CUSTOMER. Too many idiot chat models are so self absorbed they can't be bothered to welcome a new customer into their room, let alone say "thank you for choosing me".

- Your chat models represent your brand. Too many site owners hire just anyone to go on camera. If she's gross, boring, stupid, self absorbed, your customers will attribute these properties to YOU, and never come back.

It is not easy to compete against the MFC's of the world, but its not impossible either. The right approach, some basic business sense, and lots of dedication will take you very far in your live webcam business. No Half-a-million in the bank necessary.

Here's someone who "gets it".

Nice post.

Tjeezers · 02-05-2013, 03:55 PM

yeah you need traffic, cause your models do not work for a few bucks. You can start padding them a little in begin, but you need to get traffic at the same time, and lots of it. I understand people post what it is all about to have a cam site, I can say from own experience that online models, traffic and pushing in some sales yourself is practicly the best way to start.

I can for sure help you with some free traffic and a lot of other third party concepts can, perhaps you should work on this, make a network of concepts that surround your cam site. Anyway, good luck with it

adultmobile · 02-05-2013, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

That is not even close to being true. You don't have to invest anywhere near to what this poster said.

First, anyone can launch a cam site. There are dozens of products out there to help you do it, including our own at http://www.2Much.net, and there are plenty of "free" products out there too.

Then you have to buy the traffic

Axel_Crak · 02-05-2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by spiederman

you have ur own camplatform, why r u linking to exposedwebcams?
and you give a popunder to exposedwebcams

i guess u dont want the visitor to stay on your site?

NO !

Let him do some money at least while he tweak and optimize his site !

At least it will pay few bills, im pretty sure its temporary

alias · 02-05-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers

Malware trolling?

lazycash · 02-06-2013, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

That is not even close to being true. You don't have to invest anywhere near to what this poster said.

First, anyone can launch a cam site. There are dozens of products out there to help you do it, including our own at http://www.2Much.net, and there are plenty of "free" products out there too.

What it really takes, is know-how. You have to be smart when running a cam site. Even if you are a single solo model chatting alone, you still need to be smart. How smart? You need to be smart enough to understand these facts:

- A chat site is about CHAT. Your models need to communicate with your customers. If your models can't communicate and sell to your customers, your site will fail.

- Follow your niche. If you think naked girls are only sexy wearing little pink socks on their little feet, then your webcam chat site should be all about sexy naked girls wearing sexy socks. If you're into messy, your site should be all and only about, messy.

- Your chat models need to be CHARMING and CARE ABOUT THE CUSTOMER. Too many idiot chat models are so self absorbed they can't be bothered to welcome a new customer into their room, let alone say "thank you for choosing me".

- Your chat models represent your brand. Too many site owners hire just anyone to go on camera. If she's gross, boring, stupid, self absorbed, your customers will attribute these properties to YOU, and never come back.

It is not easy to compete against the MFC's of the world, but its not impossible either. The right approach, some basic business sense, and lots of dedication will take you very far in your live webcam business. No Half-a-million in the bank necessary.

Nice post and good advice. You definitely don't need six figures to launch a cam site. You just have to know what you're doing before you begin. The addition of models and traffic have to be perfectly timed to coincide or you end up throwing money down the drain.

sungat123 · 02-06-2013, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers

there is nothing wrong with my site
it have ads of juicyads and crakrevenue
your scanner might wron

sungat123 · 02-06-2013, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers

from which site u scan it
i am sure this is screen shot

adultmobile · 02-06-2013, 09:59 AM

You may guess some cam sites talk each other, so getting direct info on invest and earnings, I either decide not to share this info, or I disclose it correctly.

Of course who sells cam software or traffic, will tell is easy to start a cam site, or will get no sales of the software and traffic, guys would give up and not try in first place. Plus who did not run a cam site and is just affiliate, may think he know it all, like who watches sport match in TV and think: would have managed better the team and won a league, who can tell?

Ok let it be true a smart guy with no money can start after 2010 and end up the next mfc or streamate: statistically, a few smart guys must exist from whole internet population, so please list here the cam sites launched in 2010, 2011 or 2012 which: 1) you know didn't invested much, and 2) are doing very well.
Main issue: how you know how much they invested first, and how much their profit now, as this is private information? And if someone tells you he spend $100k a month in advertising, how you know this is true anyway?

Those few new cam sites who talked with me (some discussed in GFY at times) said invested at least the 6 figures in launch, so are excluded - our sites to be excluded as well as I admit, I am unable to launch a cam site with less than 6 figures investment.

It is still possible there's a successful cam site today, who invested very little despite launched 2010 and later (launch before was easier), but either they told around a lie that they spent 6 figure, or they told no one they was cheap launch, but then how someone here in GFY would know it?

sungat123 · 02-06-2013, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

You may guess some cam sites talk each other, so getting direct info on invest and earnings, I either decide not to share this info, or I disclose it correctly.

Of course who sells cam software or traffic, will tell is easy to start a cam site, or will get no sales of the software and traffic, guys would give up and not try in first place. Plus who did not run a cam site and is just affiliate, may think he know it all, like who watches sport match in TV and think: would have managed better the team and won a league, who can tell?

Ok let it be true a smart guy with no money can start after 2010 and end up the next mfc or streamate: statistically, a few smart guys must exist from whole internet population, so please list here the cam sites launched in 2010, 2011 or 2012 which: 1) you know didn't invested much, and 2) are doing very well.
Main issue: how you know how much they invested first, and how much their profit now, as this is private information? And if someone tells you he spend $100k a month in advertising, how you know this is true anyway?

Those few new cam sites who talked with me (some discussed in GFY at times) said invested at least the 6 figures in launch, so are excluded - our sites to be excluded as well as I admit, I am unable to launch a cam site with less than 6 figures investment.

It is still possible there's a successful cam site today, who invested very little despite launched 2010 and later (launch before was easier), but either they told around a lie that they spent 6 figure, or they told no one they was cheap launch, but then how someone here in GFY would know it?

i agree with you. i do not think 6 figure is must for a cam site
i guess with 5000visitors and few models can reach you very high
i already contract 20 models i am just fixing my website and soon or later i am sure i will make some serious gain with almost 1000$ investment
maybe it looks fishy fishy but i am sure i can some day make it one of top cam site
and 6 figure concept is wrong being a cam site webmaster

2013 · 02-06-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sungat123

i agree with you. i do not think 6 figure is must for a cam site
i guess with 5000visitors and few models can reach you very high
i already contract 20 models i am just fixing my website and soon or later i am sure i will make some serious gain with almost 1000$ investment
maybe it looks fishy fishy but i am sure i can some day make it one of top cam site
and 6 figure concept is wrong being a cam site webmaster

i would stop while ahead you have still not fixed anything

xNetworx · 02-06-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sungat123

i agree with you. i do not think 6 figure is must for a cam site
i guess with 5000visitors and few models can reach you very high
i already contract 20 models i am just fixing my website and soon or later i am sure i will make some serious gain with almost 1000$ investment
maybe it looks fishy fishy but i am sure i can some day make it one of top cam site
and 6 figure concept is wrong being a cam site webmaster

sungat123 · 02-06-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 2013

i would stop while ahead you have still not fixed anything

i was busy my self while uploading videos at other tube sites
i perfer slow and steady ..
i am not in hurry;

pimpmaster9000 · 02-06-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sungat123

i agree with you. i do not think 6 figure is must for a cam site
i guess with 5000visitors and few models can reach you very high
i already contract 20 models i am just fixing my website and soon or later i am sure i will make some serious gain with almost 1000$ investment
maybe it looks fishy fishy but i am sure i can some day make it one of top cam site
and 6 figure concept is wrong being a cam site webmaster

nobody will take your site seriously with just 20 models...not the models, not the customers...

models come and go like you would not believe...this is a huge problem...here is my prediction for your project: day one= and 5 models will actually show up, im not being mean I am being realistic, net contrats are not worth shit, within one hour you will have 1 online probably splitcamming you in the background not giving a shit about the 2-3 customers per day that actually come in her room...when customers see only 5 girls they will run in seconds...day two=you wish you would have listened to everybody here who tried to stop you....

you will think "i will build up slow and steady" but this is silly the models need money EVERY DAY or they will go to any other cam site...models are not savvy business oriented individuals they are, literally, lazy stupid unmotivated whores...all the clever ones are all on the big sites or have rich boyfriends...

not to mention your site looks like it will not convert at all because it looks horrid and has all the wrong banners advertising your biggest competition...

also ask yourself why would anybody with quality traffic even think of sending it your way? seriously? why would I bother being that I can sell my quality traffic to the giant cam sites that will pay every week/month and not fail after 2 days like you? it would be a waste of quality traffic...

you will make more money from the competitions banners than from your site, you would in fact be sending forum purchased traffic to MFC

thats just a silly thing to do...

Kovachi · 02-06-2013, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

nobody will take your site seriously with just 20 models...not the models, not the customers...

models come and go like you would not believe...this is a huge problem...here is my prediction for your project: day one= and 5 models will actually show up, im not being mean I am being realistic, net contrats are not worth shit, within one hour you will have 1 online probably splitcamming you in the background not giving a shit about the 2-3 customers per day that actually come in her room...when customers see only 5 girls they will run in seconds...day two=you wish you would have listened to everybody here who tried to stop you....

you will think "i will build up slow and steady" but this is silly the models need money EVERY DAY or they will go to any other cam site...models are not savvy business oriented individuals they are, literally, lazy stupid unmotivated whores...all the clever ones are all on the big sites or have rich boyfriends...

not to mention your site looks like it will not convert at all because it looks horrid and has all the wrong banners advertising your biggest competition...

also ask yourself why would anybody with quality traffic even think of sending it your way? seriously? why would I bother being that I can sell my quality traffic to the giant cam sites that will pay every week/month and not fail after 2 days like you? it would be a waste of quality traffic...

you will make more money from the competitions banners than from your site, you would in fact be sending forum purchased traffic to MFC

thats just a silly thing to do...

You just summed up sungat's shitty life.

adultmobile · 02-06-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

you will think "i will build up slow and steady" but this is silly the models need money EVERY DAY or they will go to any other cam site...

Yes, a cam site can not grow slowly from zero (what an urban legend is that?), it must start and keep populated (social = someone there), or it dies. The 6 figure investment from day 1, is to keep online just few models 24/7, they're 150-200 models in shifts, need a $100k/mo earning or models are gone in few days, customers too, and end of site. Only way is start giving models a pay per hour just to sit there and bonuses (in loss for site), and to buy advertising massively to real customer to pay models in place of the site - when it happens, if this keeps up, the site it survived and may be stable. Paying bonus to girl forever or they quit you is however wrong, this is a way to waste money forever, in fact bonuses are at site launch, then bonus or fixed pay must end, but girls to keep in site the same, due to real customers.
This also explains why the big porn sites or dvd producers send their cam traffic to third party cam sites, whitelabels, rather than setup an own cam site (and some who had setup, ended up closing and and switching to whitelabels).
About "I need traffic urgent", if you offer a program with revshare, do not wait for affiliates to send you traffic: the first you will get carders and all fraud guys, to make you chargebacks. I've spotted a Filipino affliate carder yesterday, and a spanish one returned today, 90% of new affiliate signups is a fraudster, its a daily boring job: if you're away a week without checking, you return and got a million dollar fraud sales to pay out, but if you not pay a model "as it is chargeback", your cam site is shitlisted in cam forums as non payer. Again the traffic must be purchased directly, even the biggest programs rely 20% on affiliates and 80% on prepay traffic deals, again needs simply money.

Datebizguy · 02-06-2013, 02:52 PM

I sell dating or cam traffic, I can get you some

datebizguy @ gmail.com

2MuchMark · 02-06-2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Then you have to buy the traffic

Of course..! But buying traffic is alot less expensive then having to give up 50,60, sometimes 70% of your earnings.

2013 · 02-06-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Of course..! But buying traffic is alot less expensive then having to give up 50,60, sometimes 70% of your earnings.

Mark is very smart listen to him

Do not listen to adultmobile his tub cam girls bullshit is just about as bad as topycams

2MuchMark · 02-06-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CamBoss

adultmobile · 02-06-2013, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 2013

Mark is very smart listen to him

Do not listen to adultmobile his tub cam girls bullshit is just about as bad as topycams

Given your reputation I am happy is you who posted this.

2MuchMark · 02-06-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

nobody will take your site seriously with just 20 models...not the models, not the customers...

Not true. It is less about the website, and more about the cam models. Your customers won't fall in love with your site - they will fall in love with the models.

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

models come and go like you would not believe..

Some models come and go, others stay. Trust me, I know what I am talking about. The "trick" is to work with the smartest models, be up front with them, and work on strategies together.

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

within one hour you will have 1 online probably splitcamming you in the background not giving a shit about the 2-3 customers per day that actually come in her room..

True. But these are the models you must not hire. You should never allow chat models to work for you and a competitor at the same time. Split camming also means she is splitting her attention between 2 (or more) chat rooms. It NEVER works. We warn models ahead of time that its against the rules and if they do it anyway, we close their accounts.

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

.when customers see only 5 girls they will run in seconds..

Completely no true.

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

.day two=you wish you would have listened to everybody here who tried to stop you....

Very bad advice. No one should ever be stopped from trying. Succeeding in cams isn't impossible. Its more work than most people think, but its not impossible.

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

you will think "i will build up slow and steady" but this is silly the models need money EVERY DAY or they will go to any other cam site...models are not savvy business oriented individuals they are, literally, lazy stupid unmotivated whores...all the clever ones are all on the big sites or have rich boyfriends...

If you treat women this way, your website will definitely fail.

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

not to mention your site looks like it will not convert at all because it looks horrid and has all the wrong banners advertising your biggest competition...

Very true. Ditch the links to competing sites. Link to sites and services that augment your business, not compete with it.

2MuchMark · 02-06-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Datebizguy

I sell dating or cam traffic, I can get you some

datebizguy @ gmail.com

No!

The way his site is right now, all of that traffic will be completely wasted. Not cool, not cool.

digitalfantasies · 02-06-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 2013

Do not listen to adultmobile his tub cam girls bullshit is just about as bad as topycams

you sound jealous...

spiederman · 02-06-2013, 04:49 PM

hmu with traffic http://www.ipadcams.nl and http://www.androidcams.nl

YAY

pimpmaster9000 · 02-06-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Not true. It is less about the website, and more about the cam models. Your customers won't fall in love with your site - they will fall in love with the models.

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Originally Posted by **********

Completely no true.

Ok fair enough show me just 1 website that has any traffic at all and just 5 models online...just one URL will do...I will sit there, like I sit and watch many sites and tell you exactly how much the top model makes just by watching her a few hours and the $$$ or time I see her in private...

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Originally Posted by **********

Some models come and go, others stay. Trust me, I know what I am talking about. The "trick" is to work with the smartest models, be up front with them, and work on strategies together.

True. But these are the models you must not hire. You should never allow chat models to work for you and a competitor at the same time. Split camming also means she is splitting her attention between 2 (or more) chat rooms. It NEVER works. We warn models ahead of time that its against the rules and if they do it anyway, we close their accounts.

I am a studio boss its all I do and if they do not see $$$ on day one you are pretty much screwed...please explain: how exactly will he entice them to stay and not split cam and sit there for free while he figures out that forum purchased cam traffic is a joke? keep in mind he is a nobody who is contacting random girls over the net?

also splitcamming works fine...saying that it NEVER works just puts spotlight on your inability to make it work for your models...it works great and its his only chance in hell of actually keeping a model there on his graveyard cam site...

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Originally Posted by **********

Very bad advice. No one should ever be stopped from trying. Succeeding in cams isn't impossible. Its more work than most people think, but its not impossible.

its not impossible just like the lottery....its just very very improbable...even more so with all the worst ingredients: forum traffic + few newbie models + shitty site + newbie OP + no affiliates who would waste time promoting + super saturated competitive niche + carders + large tubes do not have their own cam sites and they have million$ to throw around...

its actually very good advice...

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Originally Posted by **********

If you treat women this way, your website will definitely fail.

you do not employ a lot of girls do you?

man if you are not there all the time and I do mean ALL the time you are screwed LOL I have to drive models to work on rainy days LOL I have to enforce work ethic I have to run around like a bitch and fix their shit, you have no idea what it takes to put a model on the first few pages and keep her lazy good for nothing ass there LOL...my point was that if he thinks any of the models will take initiative and bust her ass off to make his site a huge success then

you are simply dreaming...

2013 · 02-06-2013, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

Ok fair enough show me just 1 website that has any traffic at all and just 5 models online...just one URL will do...I will sit there, like I sit and watch many sites and tell you exactly how much the top model makes just by watching her a few hours and the $$$ or time I see her in private...

I am a studio boss its all I do and if they do not see $$$ on day one you are pretty much screwed...please explain: how exactly will he entice them to stay and not split cam and sit there for free while he figures out that forum purchased cam traffic is a joke? keep in mind he is a nobody who is contacting random girls over the net?

also splitcamming works fine...saying that it NEVER works just puts spotlight on your inability to make it work for your models...it works great and its his only chance in hell of actually keeping a model there on his graveyard cam site...

its not impossible just like the lottery....its just very very improbable...even more so with all the worst ingredients: forum traffic + few newbie models + shitty site + newbie OP + no affiliates who would waste time promoting + super saturated competitive niche + carders + large tubes do not have their own cam sites and they have million$ to throw around...

its actually very good advice...

you do not employ a lot of girls do you?

man if you are not there all the time and I do mean ALL the time you are screwed LOL I have to drive models to work on rainy days LOL I have to enforce work ethic I have to run around like a bitch and fix their shit, you have no idea what it takes to put a model on the first few pages and keep her lazy good for nothing ass there LOL...my point was that if he thinks any of the models will take initiative and bust her ass off to make his site a huge success then

you are simply dreaming...

start out with www.tubecamgirl.com please tell me the pennies these girls make

2MuchMark · 02-06-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

Ok fair enough show me just 1 website that has any traffic at all and just 5 models online...just one URL will do...I will sit there, like I sit and watch many sites and tell you exactly how much the top model makes just by watching her a few hours and the $$$ or time I see her in private...

How about ours?: http://LiveCamNetwork.com

and there's also :
http://BabesFromTV.com
http://BabeStationCams.com

etc

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

I am a studio boss its all I do and if they do not see $$$ on day one you are pretty much screwed...

That is a very good bet, yes. If they don't make money, they're gone.

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

please explain: how exactly will he entice them to stay and not split cam and sit there for free while he figures out that forum purchased cam traffic is a joke?

You can't. It is your responsibility as a business owner to make sure they are chatting and converting customers. If they have no customers, you have no customers, and your business is in big trouble.

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

also splitcamming works fine...saying that it NEVER works just puts spotlight on your inability to make it work for your models...it works great and its his only chance in hell of actually keeping a model there on his graveyard cam site...

Splitcamming is "ok' for a studio, but bad for a website trying to build a brand. And you could also say that it is bad for the business relationship your studio has, and you could be missing out on an opportunity.

For example, there are many studios out there, and there are many service providers who buy your streams. What if you looked at your best customer who buys the most minutes from you, and offered to make them a deal? If they can, for example, promise to buy more minutes, at a higher price, you will work more closely with them? This way you both work together to build your mutual businesses? Maybe for example, that site happens to have lots of fetish traffic (Balloons, messy, feet, whatever). If you work together you can identify and exploit opportunities that you may not find otherwise.

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its not impossible just like the lottery..

Anyone who treats their business like a lottery is doomed to fail. Some calculation and pre planning goes a very long way.

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..its just very very improbable..

No, not at all. Just the opposite in fact. There is plenty of opportunities to make money in cams. Think about it : People don't join sites anymore to look and pictures, and videos are free on tubes. Cam sites sell not only interactive sex, but more importantly, they offer 1 on 1 conversation and even GFE-style relationships. This is why cam sites flourish while DVD and other sites fail.

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

.even more so with all the worst ingredients: forum traffic + few newbie models + shitty site + newbie OP + no affiliates who would waste time promoting + super saturated competitive niche + carders + large tubes do not have their own cam sites and they have million$ to throw around...
its actually very good advice...

Any business owner needs to be well versed in everything above. There are all kinds of roadblocks and pitfalls to overcome. Again, it's difficult, but its not impossible.

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

you do not employ a lot of girls do you? :

Who, me? I'll let someone else answer that one...

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1orglaugh man if you are not there all the time and I do mean ALL the time you are screwed LOL

I am beginning to think that maybe you are not the best studio owner / operator... instead of complaining about your "whores" and dumping on anyone who wants to start a cam site, maybe you should be asking people here on GFY what you can do to overcome your problems you are having with your studio?

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I have to drive models to work on rainy days LOL

Yes, I'd LOL at that too. Why bother? Think about it. You have a studio to run. You have training to do, computers to fix, studios to light, etc. Why are you driving anyone around? Your time is worth alot more than that.

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

I have to enforce work ethic I have to run around like a bitch and fix their shit, you have no idea what it takes to put a model on the first few pages and keep her lazy good for nothing ass there LOL.

Again, your attitude towards women is ... enlightening. And as a matter of fact, I do know what it takes, but you know what? Fixing things, dealing with model issues etc, is a part of business. It is a job. If you don't like it, why not promote one of your own models to take over model management for you?

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

..my point was that if he thinks any of the models will take initiative and bust her ass off to make his site a huge success then

you are simply dreaming...

No my friend, I'm sorry. You give no credit at all to chat models or women in general. Many chat models have made this their career. If you think none of them will work harder, you are very mistaken. Give them them an opportunity and see what happens. I bet you anything that more than 1 model will jump at the chance to excel for their company.

totalsexcams · 02-06-2013, 06:10 PM

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Tjeezers · 02-06-2013, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sungat123

i am sure this is screen shot

Yes, it is a screen shot, I was so friendly to put it here for you to see.
I did not scan anything, I just clicked your URL and this is what I get.

jabula · 02-06-2013, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sungat123

i have a cam site topycam.com
i hire 20 models, i need some traffic about 10000visitors atleast or more
how can i get fast visitors
google adwords costs me a lot please tell me another way to big relevent traffic

Take a look at Traffic Holder in my sig for reasonably cheap traffic

sungat123 · 02-06-2013, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Not true. It is less about the website, and more about the cam models. Your customers won't fall in love with your site - they will fall in love with the models.

Some models come and go, others stay. Trust me, I know what I am talking about. The "trick" is to work with the smartest models, be up front with them, and work on strategies together.

True. But these are the models you must not hire. You should never allow chat models to work for you and a competitor at the same time. Split camming also means she is splitting her attention between 2 (or more) chat rooms. It NEVER works. We warn models ahead of time that its against the rules and if they do it anyway, we close their accounts.

Completely no true.

Very bad advice. No one should ever be stopped from trying. Succeeding in cams isn't impossible. Its more work than most people think, but its not impossible.

If you treat women this way, your website will definitely fail.

Very true. Ditch the links to competing sites. Link to sites and services that augment your business, not compete with it.

your tips really are good
i am sure i gona implement those

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adultmobile · 02-07-2013, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 2013

start out with www.tubecamgirl.com please tell me the pennies these girls make

They're online there from years, probably they're idiots or like to waste their time for free

lazycash · 02-07-2013, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

True. But these are the models you must not hire. You should never allow chat models to work for you and a competitor at the same time. Split camming also means she is splitting her attention between 2 (or more) chat rooms. It NEVER works. We warn models ahead of time that its against the rules and if they do it anyway, we close their accounts.

.

Completely disagree, its not 2006 anymore and that way of thinking is gone now by most of the large successful cam sites. Splitcamming on a site that offers the tipping model works tremendously. One of the biggest reasons for MFC's surge to one of the top 2 cam sites is simply because they attracted the best talent and have been able to keep it. They did so by being flexible and model friendly, allowing splitcamming and models to put their own url on their cam. If you allow a camgirl to maximize their earning potential, they stay happy, and they stay camming on your site, its a win win.

adultmobile · 02-07-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Completely disagree, its not 2006 anymore and that way of thinking is gone now by most of the large successful cam sites. Splitcamming on a site that offers the tipping model works tremendously. One of the biggest reasons for MFC's surge to one of the top 2 cam sites is simply because they attracted the best talent and have been able to keep it. They did so by being flexible and model friendly, allowing splitcamming and models to put their own url on their cam. If you allow a camgirl to maximize their earning potential, they stay happy, and they stay camming on your site, its a win win.

In fact a cam site just needs to be in the list of sites the models splitcam into. Exclusive is something from pre-2006 (I would say from 1990's realy). All models open MFC + Skype (at times yahoo messenger too), as a default. That's why 1500 online in MFC, is like they open facebook, something a cam girl open when pc is powered on. Additionally, they open others such as mainly streamate, jasmin, imlive or else top sites. Plus may have some smaller sites of their choices. In other words, all models have 2 to 8 sites opened, and cam sites not managing to be within the top 2-8 sites according to enough models, no one model will be online in such a site. Alternatively, you can offer $5+ per hour to models to be online (more likely $10+ an hour), and you got models online, but you can do it only at the launch, also if you stop paying the fixed fee and there's no customers, the girls all quit your cam site the same day, without say thanks.

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