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Furious_Male · 02-07-2013, 10:07 PM

This could also be a bigger player hedging a large long position elsewhere in the market.

DTK · 02-08-2013, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

What in the good world of all hell could possibly put the vix over 20 anytime soon?

Sure- it was way up after the big retailers "failed at teh christmas"... but wow I would not run around with my hands in the air screaming just because some moron made a big (?relative to?) trade

There are a-lot of morons in the world and many many of them have A LOT of money

Like i said, the vix goes over 20 regularly. Try checking out a historical chart.

Frank21 · 02-08-2013, 01:23 AM

Max Keiser was talking about expiration of bonds or whatever in beginning of April in Japan. Not sure what he was on about but he was talking about it half a year ago that in april something bad would happen in the financial markets or something, starting in Japan.

Dirty F · 02-08-2013, 01:33 AM

Richard, when exactly did you turn in to a conspiracy idiot?

Frank21 · 02-08-2013, 01:37 AM

infowars has actualy an article about it.

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For some reason, corporate insiders have chosen this moment to unload huge amounts of stock. According to a CNN article, corporate insiders are now selling nine times more of their own shares than they are buying?

Corporate insiders have one word for investors: sell.

Insiders were nine times more likely to sell shares of their companies than buy new ones last week, according to the Vickers Weekly Insider report by Argus Research.

What makes this so alarming is that corporate insiders have been exceedingly good at ?timing the market? in recent years. The following comes from a recent CNBC article entitled ?Sucker Alert? Insider Selling Surges After Dow 14,000??

?In almost perfect coordination with an equity market that was rushing toward new all-time highs, insider sentiment has weakened sharply ? falling to its lowest level since late March 2012,? wrote David Coleman of the Vickers Weekly Insider report, one of the longest researchers of executive buying and selling on Wall Street. ?Insiders are waving the cautionary flag in an increasingly aggressive manner.?

There have been more than nine insider sales for every one buy over the past week among NYSE stocks, according to Vickers. The last time executives sold their company?s stock this aggressively was in early 2012, just before the S&P 500 went on to correct by 10 percent to its low for the year.

?Insiders know more than the vast majority of market participants,? said Enis Taner, global macro editor for RiskReversal.com. ?And they?re usually right over a long period of time.?

http://www.infowars.com/do-wall-stre...pen-very-soon/

Dirty F · 02-08-2013, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

what difference does that make

Jesus christ

Dirty F · 02-08-2013, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

I think he is just trying to open the floor up for debate.
To explore the topics presented and go with it. Pick a side.

No, all these idiots do is spread fear, hate and lies. And call everyone sheep who don't blindly believe it. But you as an imbecile conspiracy nutter ofcourse have no problem with that.

Frank21 · 02-08-2013, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

No, all these idiots do is spread fear, hate and lies. And call everyone sheep who want don't blindly believe it. But you as an imbecile conspiracy nutter ofcourse have no problem with that.

So enlighten us with your prediction or insight knowledge.
Let me gues the stock market will go up and up and up and will not go down a single point? Gold and silver will go down and the job market will skyrocket with no unemployed? And we will all live long happy after all ......

This is what the non-conspiracy professionals predict for the future and how "right" they have been in the past 10 years.

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The Congressional Budget Office has just released a report that contains their outlook for the next decade. The report is entitled ?The Budget and Economic Outlook: Fiscal Years 2013 to 2023″, and if you want a good laugh you should read it.

Here are some of the things that the CBO believes will happen?

-The CBO believes that government revenues will more than double by 2023.

-The CBO believes that government revenue as a percentage of GDP will rise from 15.8 percent today to 19.1 percent in 2023.

-The CBO believes that the unemployment rate will continually fall over the next decade.

-The CBO believes that the federal budget deficit will fall to just 2.4% of GDP in fiscal year 2015.

-The CBO believes that the federal budget deficit will only be $430 billion in 2015.

-The CBO believes that we will not have a single recession over the next decade.

-The CBO believes that inflation will stay at about 2 percent for the next decade.

-The CBO believes that U.S. GDP will grow by a total of 67 percent by 2023.

Wow, all of that sounds great until you go back and take a look at how CBO projections have fared in the past.

In fact, Bruce Krasting has gone back and looked at the numbers from the Congressional Budget Office?s Budget and Economic Outlook 2003. I think that you will find the differences between the CBO projections and what really happened to be very humorous?

Estimated 10-year budget surplus = $5.6T.

Reality = $6.6T deficit. A 200+% miss.

Estimate for 2012 Debt Held by Public = $1.2T (5% of GDP).

Reality = Debt Held by Public = $11.6T. A 1000% miss.

Estimated fiscal 2012 GDP = $17.4T.

Reality = $15.8T. A $1.6T (10%) miss.

So should we trust what the CBO is telling us now?

scottybuzz · 02-08-2013, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

I've taken you off ignore to see what you're on about only to find you're still not reading any of the threads I make correctly, you really should scroll up to the top of this one and look at what my exact words were. You make far too many assumptions, and I see you're making up all kinds of other BS about past predictions. I never said that Putin had to be assassinated by the end of 2012, that's you're spin. Anyone, you're obviously trolling, so back on ignore for you, I've wasted enough time already.

yes...
sure im on ignore...

i suppose another screenshot is coming to prove it again?

scottybuzz · 02-08-2013, 03:45 AM

wehateporn, again, as you know all about the world. do you have anymore intelligence about what specifically is going to happen?

you are still generalising?

Here, i can play this game too.

i believe in the next 2 years, there will be a terrorist attack

now i just need a team of richards to help support me

wehateporn · 02-08-2013, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male

This could also be a bigger player hedging a large long position elsewhere in the market.

Indeed, good point

wehateporn · 02-08-2013, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank21

Max Keiser was talking about expiration of bonds or whatever in beginning of April in Japan. Not sure what he was on about but he was talking about it half a year ago that in april something bad would happen in the financial markets or something, starting in Japan.

Interesting, I'll need to put get back to his show

wehateporn · 02-08-2013, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

No, all these idiots do is spread fear, hate and lies. And call everyone sheep who don't blindly believe it. But you as an imbecile conspiracy nutter ofcourse have no problem with that.

How much do you get paid per post Dirty F? If it's more than 2 cents then GFY are getting ripped off

Frank21 · 02-08-2013, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Interesting, I'll need to put get back to his show

its funny how people like DirtyF are telling us since 2009 that the recession is over and everything will be fine yet.

Dirty F · 02-08-2013, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank21

its funny how people like DirtyF are telling us since 2009 that the recession is over and everything will be fine yet.

Wtf are you talking about you imbecile.

Time to put you on ignore. Together with the rest of your conspiracy buddies. Buh bye retard boy

Joshua G · 02-08-2013, 07:46 AM

love this thread. its exactly like the sports gambling boards. When the point spread moves hard, everyone starts guessing whether Billy Walters just put in a huge play. in the end, the position is irrelevant to what happens in the game.

similar thing here, because its impossible to know if a big position has inside knowledge. Theres lots of big dumb money out there & entire wall street banks got killed by their own speculations in 2008.

if insiders are really bailing in droves, that shouldnt be a big surprise because the name of the game is buy low, sell high, & the market is high right now. Profit taking here is sound MM.

with all the dark money out there, it could be anything from an oil embargo, congressional shenanigans, lex luthor planting a bomb in the san andreas...or just a hedge of a hedge.

congrats to the winners.

BlackCrayon · 02-08-2013, 07:55 AM

yeah..insiders. so much for keeping it inside. so now what happens is everyone else follows suit and what would of been nothing is now something. all created by fear and hype.

_Richard_ · 02-08-2013, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Richard, when exactly did you turn in to a conspiracy idiot?

probably should just go back to posting about food and kermit the frog

_Richard_ · 02-08-2013, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank21

Max Keiser was talking about expiration of bonds or whatever in beginning of April in Japan. Not sure what he was on about but he was talking about it half a year ago that in april something bad would happen in the financial markets or something, starting in Japan.

apparently the 08 crisis was started by a lot of money disappearing somewhere in 'asia'.. might be an echo from that?

or more bad news lol

Dirty F · 02-08-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

probably should just go back to posting about food and kermit the frog

Beats being a conspiracy looney.

_Richard_ · 02-08-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Beats being a conspiracy looney.

look! predinner!

ger yer ass.. to facebook..

wehateporn · 02-08-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

look! predinner!

ger yer ass.. to facebook..

scottybuzz · 02-08-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

. all created by fear and hype.

your wrong,

it's truth and fact

wehateporn · 02-10-2013, 05:14 PM

Possibly...

China reports two human cases of bird flu

"CHINA has reported two human cases of bird flu in the southwestern city of Guiyang, with both patients in a critical condition.

A 21-year-old woman and 31-year-old man tested positive for the H5N1 bird flu virus on Sunday after developing symptoms on February 2 and February 3 respectively, the official Xinhua news agency said."

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1226575014594

livexxx · 02-10-2013, 05:28 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...91906T20130210

thats on reuters too, so as its chinese new year, expect global issues in about 72hrs

wehateporn · 02-10-2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by livexxx

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...91906T20130210

thats on reuters too, so as its chinese new year, expect global issues in about 72hrs

Best time and place to release bird flu; during Chinese new year in China

livexxx · 02-10-2013, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Best time and place to release bird flu; during Chinese new year in China

perfect aim

SilentKnight · 02-10-2013, 05:57 PM

Anonymous Hacks into Federal Reserve.

Hmm...was the insider trader linked with Anonymous?

Tony Soundview · 02-10-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male

This could also be a bigger player hedging a large long position elsewhere in the market.

Furious, you are the smartest man in this thread. Definately hedging on a 200 million dollar + bet. Sounds like a hedge fund protecting themselves from a drop. I used to work for the MS fixed income desk, we had treasury trades that were unreal.

Tony Soundview · 02-10-2013, 09:27 PM

Also, its .75 cents per spread contract. Not $75 per contract. Contracts are sold in lots of 100. This trade is a bet for large positive movement or negative movement. The real question is what trade are they protecting.

wehateporn · 03-14-2013, 08:05 AM

Hopefully once these 60 days are up sales can resume to normal

wehateporn · 03-18-2013, 03:41 PM

Article was 6th Feb, the bet happened before that, so not long left till 60 days now

Young · 03-18-2013, 03:57 PM

11 million is chump change.

Want to know what I got?

I saw 4 turtles acting weird this morning. I bet something HUGE is going to happen within 6 years. Last time I saw turtles acting weird...BOOM...9/11.

slapass · 03-18-2013, 04:14 PM

You caught that it was an in the money put spread. He doesn't need a huge move. It could move one point and he could make money.

Edit: Fuck I didn't read their edit before I posted. Yep needs to move BIG.

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BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	yeah..insiders. so much for keeping it inside. so now what happens is everyone else follows suit and what would of been nothing is now something. all created by fear and hype. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	Possibly... China reports two human cases of bird flu "CHINA has reported two human cases of bird flu in the southwestern city of Guiyang, with both patients in a critical condition. A 21-year-old woman and 31-year-old man tested positive for the H5N1 bird flu virus on Sunday after developing symptoms on February 2 and February 3 respectively, the official Xinhua news agency said." http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1226575014594 __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

02-08-2013, 01:33 AM	#54
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Richard, when exactly did you turn in to a conspiracy idiot?

02-08-2013, 07:46 AM	#66
Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	love this thread. its exactly like the sports gambling boards. When the point spread moves hard, everyone starts guessing whether Billy Walters just put in a huge play. in the end, the position is irrelevant to what happens in the game. similar thing here, because its impossible to know if a big position has inside knowledge. Theres lots of big dumb money out there & entire wall street banks got killed by their own speculations in 2008. if insiders are really bailing in droves, that shouldnt be a big surprise because the name of the game is buy low, sell high, & the market is high right now. Profit taking here is sound MM. with all the dark money out there, it could be anything from an oil embargo, congressional shenanigans, lex luthor planting a bomb in the san andreas...or just a hedge of a hedge. congrats to the winners.

02-10-2013, 05:28 PM	#75
livexxx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,201	http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...91906T20130210 thats on reuters too, so as its chinese new year, expect global issues in about 72hrs __________________ http://www.webcamalerts.com for auto tweets for web cam operators

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SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	Anonymous Hacks into Federal Reserve. Hmm...was the insider trader linked with Anonymous?

02-10-2013, 09:27 PM	#80
Tony Soundview Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 62	Also, its .75 cents per spread contract. Not $75 per contract. Contracts are sold in lots of 100. This trade is a bet for large positive movement or negative movement. The real question is what trade are they protecting. __________________ Newbie

03-14-2013, 08:05 AM	#81
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	Hopefully once these 60 days are up sales can resume to normal __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

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wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	Article was 6th Feb, the bet happened before that, so not long left till 60 days now __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

03-18-2013, 03:57 PM	#83
Young Bland for life Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,468	11 million is chump change. Want to know what I got? I saw 4 turtles acting weird this morning. I bet something HUGE is going to happen within 6 years. Last time I saw turtles acting weird...BOOM...9/11. __________________ ★★★

03-18-2013, 04:14 PM	#84
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	You caught that it was an in the money put spread. He doesn't need a huge move. It could move one point and he could make money. Edit: Fuck I didn't read their edit before I posted. Yep needs to move BIG. Last edited by slapass; 03-18-2013 at 04:16 PM..