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dyna mo · 02-15-2013, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

And 20-30 years ago every time a kid killed himself or did something terrible, people asked "what heavy metal music did he listen to?"

No difference. Blaming a "thing" besides what's happening at home isn't going to take society any closer to understanding or fixing the problem.

media isn't a *thing* in the sense you are using the term. it is not an inanimate object. it is corporation comprised of people. in fact, it is legally a person. a gun is not legally a person like a corp is.

and news CORPs are legally bound by operating in the best interest of its shareholders, i.e., the bottomline. how does a news corp increase that year after year and against competition? increase viewership by sensationalizing.

TheSquealer · 02-15-2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

media isn't a *thing* in the sense you are using the term. it is not an inanimate object. it is corporation comprised of people. in fact, it is legally a person. a gun is not legally a person like a corp is.

and news CORPs are legally bound by operating in the best interest of its shareholders, i.e., the bottomline. how does a news corp increase that year after year and against competition? increase viewership by sensationalizing.

The media is the biggest part of the problem in my opinion right under parents. Not sure what you are referencing to but I meant "thing" as in "gun", "video game", "band/song/music", "medications" etc. as I said, music was always blamed in the past, since It clearly isn't the problem, people moved on to blaming other "things".

I think it's complex. I think it's like health issues. When its reported that someone died of dancer for example, it's always followed by "well, of course, he did a lot of xyz, so...." It's the same behaviors when such acts of violence occur. Because who wants to feel like their life can end at any moment? Its a defense mechanism. People have a tendency to look for an easy fix because it gives us comfort to believe we can quickly control/stop/prevent it. But that's just us lying to ourselves because its easier to go around the problem and pretend it doesn't exist than to confront it, the risks, the horrors of failure and to go through life knowing your kid might get shot next or be the next shooter.

dyna mo · 02-15-2013, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

The media is the biggest part of the problem in my opinion right under parents. Not sure what you are referencing to but I meant "thing" as in "gun", "video game", "band/song/music", "medications" etc. as I said, music was always blamed in the past, since It clearly isn't the problem, people moved on to blaming other "things".

I think it's complex. I think it's like health issues. When its reported that someone died of dancer for example, it's always followed by "we'l, of course, he did a lot of xyz, so...." It's the same behaviors when such acts of violence occur. People have a tendency to look for an easy fix because it gives us comfort to believe we can quickly control/stop/prevent it. But that's just us lying to ourselves because its easier to go around the problem and pretend it doesn't exist than to confront it, the risks, the horrors of failure and to go through life knowing your kid might get shot next or be the next shooter.

oh, i misread your reference to thing, thought you were applying it to media.

aslo, i agree, i don't *blame* the media but as i've done in this thread, i do opine that the media plants the germ of an idea, and that then is fostered by other factors.

i know i've gotten many ideas in my life that germinated from something i saw on tele. fortunately, i'm not wired to get the idea that stabbing and shooting others is a viable option.

adulttraffic · 02-15-2013, 12:07 PM

Yeah.. and while their at it they should also look into your obvious steroid abuse

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

Lets look into the kids diet, and their medications. Both of which should be 100% on the parents.

Ross · 02-15-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

And 20-30 years ago every time a kid killed himself or did something terrible, people asked "what heavy metal music did he listen to?"

No difference. Blaming a "thing" besides what's happening at home isn't going to take society any closer to understanding or fixing the problem.

I don't often get involved in these kind of threads but this had to be quoted. 100% on the money.

Choopa Phil · 02-15-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic

Yeah.. and while their at it they should also look into your obvious steroid abuse

Well thats quite the accusation 1. Untrue and 2. has nothing to do with this thread or my reply.

Youd be surprised how large diet especially in this day and age of GMO's plays on a developing mind and body.

Im sorry that me being in shape and dedicated upsets you, when you train for 7 years of your life and people make accusations like that it just makes me feel even better about my training and diet. Guess I'm doing something right!

adulttraffic · 02-15-2013, 12:25 PM

Upsets me? Nothing in a forum upsets me. I just thought it was strange you would want to look into their diets.

pornguy · 02-15-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

Lets look into the kids diet, and their medications. Both of which should be 100% on the parents.

What parents. They are off doing other things.

Choopa Phil · 02-15-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

What parents. They are off doing other things.

Im saying that the parents should be held accountable by the authorities for allowing their weapons to be accessed so easily.

Rochard · 02-15-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

Im saying that the parents should be held accountable by the authorities for allowing their weapons to be accessed so easily.

We had firearms growing up. We discussed firearm safety, but there was no discussion about not shooting other people or bringing them to school. We never ever EVER touched the firearms without direct permission.

dyna mo · 02-15-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

We never ever EVER touched the firearms without direct permission.

and where did you learn this?

Choopa Phil · 02-15-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

and where did you learn this?

Ding Ding Ding.

My Fucking Traffic · 02-15-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

and where did you learn this?

Grand Theft Auto games.

L-Pink · 02-15-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by venusgal

Grand Theft Auto games.

See sig.

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My Fucking Traffic · 02-15-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

See sig.

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That's some legit advice... I can dig it.

Jakez · 02-15-2013, 04:24 PM

I'm going to say everyone is wrong and blame the kids alone. 2 crazy kids planned to kill classmates, whoopty fuckin' doo. There are a couple crazy kids everywhere, kids that never did what they were told no matter how they were raised, best we can hope for is that they don't get these kind of ideas. But some of them do and the ones that do WILL find a way to do whatever they want, because they're fuckin crazy nothing anyone can do about it. The world isn't perfect and everyone isn't the same, and there will always be a maniac kid or two in some areas, life goes on (for most).

Agreed on the publicizing it and copy cats thing though, they need to just keep shit like this hush hush and not give the other crazy kids ideas..

Rochard · 02-15-2013, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

Well thats quite the accusation 1. Untrue and 2. has nothing to do with this thread or my reply.

Youd be surprised how large diet especially in this day and age of GMO's plays on a developing mind and body.

Im sorry that me being in shape and dedicated upsets you, when you train for 7 years of your life and people make accusations like that it just makes me feel even better about my training and diet. Guess I'm doing something right!

People always gonna hate.

Rochard · 02-15-2013, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

and where did you learn this?

I don't recall. I don't ever recall my parents saying "don't touch". I don't ever recall discussing it. It was just implied by force of my step father's belt?

GrantMercury · 02-15-2013, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

...i guess but my point is people have been blaming television for society's woes since it was invented.

I think that's true. Other countries have TV that is as (if not more) graphic than here in the US. They don't have our gun problem. It's something else I think.

02-15-2013, 04:24 PM	#66
Jakez Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oddfuturewolfgangkillthemall!!!!!!! Posts: 5,656	I'm going to say everyone is wrong and blame the kids alone. 2 crazy kids planned to kill classmates, whoopty fuckin' doo. There are a couple crazy kids everywhere, kids that never did what they were told no matter how they were raised, best we can hope for is that they don't get these kind of ideas. But some of them do and the ones that do WILL find a way to do whatever they want, because they're fuckin crazy nothing anyone can do about it. The world isn't perfect and everyone isn't the same, and there will always be a maniac kid or two in some areas, life goes on (for most). Agreed on the publicizing it and copy cats thing though, they need to just keep shit like this hush hush and not give the other crazy kids ideas.. __________________ [email protected] - jakezdumb - 573689400 Killuminati Last edited by Jakez; 02-15-2013 at 04:31 PM..

02-15-2013, 12:25 PM	#57
adulttraffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 797	Upsets me? Nothing in a forum upsets me. I just thought it was strange you would want to look into their diets.