I don't believe people make money from cam sites

[kyro]

I've tried to promote cam sites and have 0:45,000

i think all these cam experts just lie, someone prove to me that there is money to be made with cams.

[signupdamnit]

If the traffic is looking for cams and not porn you really can do well if you partner with a good site who will not shave you. Dating is the same way. But it's tough to get all those things.

If you just put up some cam banners on your tube and send it to Slick Rick's $500 PPS Cam Brogram then forget it. By the time you make the minimum payment Slick Rick will disappear somewhere off in the Bahamas and will have posted a message about how "the affiliate model is no longer viable and there will be no more payments. Thanks for the retirement."

[rebel.latte]

@kyro what types of promo are you doing? I am thinking cams but would only do this by white labeling a site Eric and a reasonable domain name etc.

that way if people click through to join, chances are that's what they are there for (type of content).

@signupdammt, good answer

[AllAboutCams]

What program and what traffic?

[kyro]

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

What program and what traffic?

tgp, tube site, broker traffic to blogs. cam banners to webcams.com, livejasmin and cams.com

[Nicky]

VenusBlogger is that you? ;)

[elliso]

Kyro I Believe You are absolutely right
i havd had same shit with Webcam sites but dating works somehow

[srockhard]

Hit me up sometime as I have a few tools in my soon to launch affiliate program that can help you reach cam potential with your current traffic.

[2013]

Originally Posted by kyro

tgp, tube site, broker traffic to blogs. cam banners to webcams.com, livejasmin and cams.com

all three suck

if you want to make money go with chaturbate and crakrev

[loreen]

Originally Posted by Nicky

VenusBlogger is that you? ;)

Piriod!

8char

[ImLarge]

http://www.streamate.com pays make a good , dont fuck with the rest, maybe naked, they also work well for me

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by kyro

I've tried to promote cam sites and have 0:45,000

i think all these cam experts just lie, someone prove to me that there is money to be made with cams.

Hi Kyro,

It can be difficult to make money with cam sites. It isn't impossible, but it can be tricky. Here's a few things that can help you:

- Cam sites are sticker than membership / photo sites, if the chat models are good at what they do. Chat models who are smart & charming and who can communicate make much more for their affiliates than models who are dull and boring.

- It can sometime take longer to convert a visitor into a paying customer because he has to find the right girl, on the right site, and be in the mood, have a credit card, and the girl has to be ready to satisfy his need. Of course the price has to be right and his credit card has to be accepted too.

It might seem like alot of criteria to get "just right", which maybe it is. For this reason though, you just have to super-target your traffic. Never send garbage traffic, or traffic from countries you know speak different languages.

Sites that feature Canadian, American, UK or Aussie models will do well with traffic from those countries.

Cam sites make a ton of money, and cam site owners and their affiliates can do extremely well if they work together and do things carefully.

[kyro]

Originally Posted by **********

Hi Kyro,

It can be difficult to make money with cam sites. It isn't impossible, but it can be tricky. Here's a few things that can help you:

- Cam sites are sticker than membership / photo sites, if the chat models are good at what they do. Chat models who are smart & charming and who can communicate make much more for their affiliates than models who are dull and boring.

- It can sometime take longer to convert a visitor into a paying customer because he has to find the right girl, on the right site, and be in the mood, have a credit card, and the girl has to be ready to satisfy his need. Of course the price has to be right and his credit card has to be accepted too.

It might seem like alot of criteria to get "just right", which maybe it is. For this reason though, you just have to super-target your traffic. Never send garbage traffic, or traffic from countries you know speak different languages.

Sites that feature Canadian, American, UK or Aussie models will do well with traffic from those countries.

Cam sites make a ton of money, and cam site owners and their affiliates can do extremely well if they work together and do things carefully.

cracker, i aint be promoting yo shit.

[babymaker]

Push Streamate it is the best LJ is burned out and cookied on every surfer on the planet, I can't submit a fucking tube edit without 600 LJ pops per site I upload too, it's annoying as fuck. Best to push to a SM whitelabel of your own if they will give you one.

[Far-L]

Really?

What a shame.

Can't say your competition is going to miss you.

[pgmorin]

Wow 45.000!! that would have been 90 subscriptions for my website at the worst ratio a affiliate have.

[adultmobile]

Send traffic to pay per free leads offers, this way you make more than zero for sure.

[Black All Through]

I make steady money with cams, not a lot, but it's under the 1:1200 mark.

[nikki99]

I am making money with chaturbate

http://chaturbate.com/affiliates/in/...?track=default

[Tofu]

Affiliates and networks under me, make scrilla! Try us out. I build my people whatever they need to be successful. No lie.

http://webcamclub.com from http://datinggold.com

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by nikki99

I am making money with chaturbate

http://chaturbate.com/affiliates/in/...?track=default

Why move to cam4 then

[Horatio Caine]

Gave up on cams long time ago.

[Sly]

My personal WebCam traffic is around 1:350, average value per user around $75. Just under a quarter per click. I'll take it.

[Jman]

CrakRevenue has the secret to convert cams. By far the best promo material out there. great PPL payouts.

You can't go wrong with them : Check them out

[diablom]

you should always check if it converts and if you see you are not getting sales, change your cam partner. For example I used to convert webcams.com 200$ PPS like 1:1000. Then suddenly everything changed and had like 0:50k, Then tried different site and sales were not as good as it was there, but still better than 0.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by Nicky

VenusBlogger is that you? ;)

lol reading the title that was my thought too

[Roald]

No one is making money in cams, its all a conspiracy by the cam site owners.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by kyro

cracker, i aint be promoting yo shit.

Lol, I didn't invite you to, homie! ;)

[2013]

Originally Posted by Roald

No one is making money in cams, its all a conspiracy by the cam site owners.

[StickyGreen]

No money to be made in cams... leave the business immediately...

[TheSquealer]

Thats a healthy attitude. "I've failed, therefore everyone else is a liar". I'm sure that way of looking at things will push you to immense success and great accomplishment.

[FreeFastHost]

You'll never make this much money obviously, but here's some stats.

[TheSquealer]

A funny thing is that this line of thinking as it requires the base assumption that 1000's of cam models live on Streamate or Myfreecams et al, are just there working for free and hanging out.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by FreeFastHost

You'll never make this much money obviously, but here's some stats.

Nice photo shop! There is no money in cams!!!

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by Roald

Nice photo shop! There is no money in cams!!!

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

Why move to cam4 then

u tracking my moves?

I am giving it a try but I made $1 dollar so far, it sucks

[2intense]

Originally Posted by Nicky

VenusBlogger is that you? ;)

so fucking banned again

[The Dawg]

Originally Posted by FreeFastHost

You'll never make this much money obviously, but here's some stats.

Sexy stats.

[O MARINA]

Originally Posted by kyro

I've tried to promote cam sites and have 0:45,000

i think all these cam experts just lie, someone prove to me that there is money to be made with cams.

What are you smoking?

[Nicky]

I'm 1:1200 this period with my main WL doing PPS. Pretty decent IMO

[nikki99]

there is no money in porn anymore

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by kyro

I've tried to promote cam sites and have 0:45,000

i think all these cam experts just lie, someone prove to me that there is money to be made with cams.

There is an old truth in this industry.

That when a "working girl" in porn says she made XXX$ from escorting .. ...... The truth is she made about only half that.

When I started doing the research to "adapt or die" and began talking to all the internet experts. I quickly came to the understanding that webkiddies tend to be the modern unisex version of the working ladies. Only what they actually earn is about 15% of what they claim.

There are always exceptions but for the 95% of what you hear and with who you interact with, the fact is they are only earning enough money at best to pay for some pot, their Internet bill and perhaps a 6 pack of beers.

The only thing that has changed in this industry in the last 40 years is that it now discards directors, marketers, etc as fast as it throws away the girls. (perhaps faster) This industry sold big lies of stardom to the women and now it sells big lies of billions of dollars to everyone else it can find.

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by FreeFastHost

You'll never make this much money obviously, but here's some stats.

Why why why did you have to post this?!? Do you know how many people's day you just ruined? You know what, just to cope with this I am going to imagine that this is an aggregate report from 1990 - 2012.

[adultmobile]

[BAKO]

I don't believe in trolls

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

That when a "working girl" in porn says she made XXX$ from escorting .. ...... The truth is she made about only half that.

less than that

is the awful truth

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by FreeFastHost

You'll never make this much money obviously, but here's some stats.

***** A spread sheet graphique ****

I am not saying you are liar or trying to ridicule you. If you are earning a substantial somme of money then I am very happy for you.


But what you posted works well as proof of income for renting an appartement but not for me. I learned very quickly that in the digital age people can create anything they wish.


There are 3 things that make me believe that someone is probably poor.

1) When they start telling me how much money they can make for me.
2) They brag about how much money they already make
3) They go out of their way to prove to me they have money with their "proof of income".

So when somone talks like the above I ask to see
A) Their official tax return
B) A credit check
C) What did they drive to my house in and do they actually own it. (And if it is leased then I expect to see that in their tax return)

Anyone that is earning a large somme of money does not need to help ME make money. If they are contacting me for a legit reason, than it is a situation of how WE can make money together and they have a clear message of what they require from me.

Originally Posted by nikki99

less than that

is the awful truth

Claudine Beccarie was my contact in to the industry and I saw that back in the the 1970s girls that did porn and operated a small discreet escorte business used to earn decent money. Their clients were very loyal and long term. Many girls even developed business contacts that helped them establish careers after porn.

But as the video cassettes caused a production boom and the market started to become saturated. Many of those former men who normally would be clients started to find ways to produce. The value of the porn performer started to drop, her private clients stopped being loyal, etc.

Today regardless of they do porn or not, the Internet has just destroyed a working girl's income potential. Any idiot can be a bigshot in porn with a tube script, any housewife can go do webcam shows or turn tricks, etc. And in the middle of things being saturated, the concept of quality is assassinated by punters that share information how to cheat and fuck over others on a massive scale.

But there are exceptions and there are ways to avoid this. The best is to see what everyone else is doing and NOT do it. Never follow the heard... make your own path.

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

I am not saying you are liar or trying to ridicule you. If you are earning a substantial somme of money then I am very happy for you.


But what you posted works well as proof of income for renting an appartement but not for me. I learned very quickly that in the digital age people can create anything they wish.


There are 3 things that make me believe that someone is probably poor.

1) When they start telling me how much money they can make for me.
2) They brag about how much money they already make
3) They go out of their way to prove to me they have money with their "proof of income".

So when somone talks like the above I ask to see
A) Their official tax return
B) A credit check
C) What did they drive to my house in and do they actually own it. (And if it is leased then I expect to see that in their tax return)

Anyone that is earning a large somme of money does not need to help ME make money. If they are contacting me for a legit reason, than it is a situation of how WE can make money together and they have a clear message of what they require from me.

You want him to post his tax returns for you? lol, shut the fuck up...

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

You want him to post his tax returns for you? lol, shut the fuck up...

There is no private messaging system available on this site and there is no contact information listed in my signature.

Obviously at this point in time I am not looking to do any kind of business with anyone on this site. Therefore I think it might be safe to conclude that I was not asking to see his tax return.

If or when I decide to cooperate on a possible financial venture with someone I stubled across on this site. Then it would be prudent that they know what to expect.

[PR_Glen]

I ask my garbage man for his tax return or I don't let him take my garbage.. because how can i trust him to take my trash without that?

ps it smells..