WARNING: Buying Networks, Websites & Blogs

[Fat Panda]

90% of the networks, websites and blogs for sale in the Buy/Sell were bitch slapped by Google and many sellers are trying to pull a fast one on buyers. Their revenue has nosedived and they're trying to cash out while they still can. Don't be a sucker! Revenue from the last 24 months, 12 months and even 6 months is IRRELEVANT. Ask for the last 30 days of VERIFIABLE revenue times it by 3 and don't pay a penny more. If they can't or are unwilling to verify revenue RUN!

Bottom line: BUYER BEWARE.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by SAC

90% of the networks, websites and blogs for sale in the Buy/Sell were bitch slapped by Google and many sellers are trying to pull a fast one on buyers. Their revenue has nosedived and they're trying to cash out while they still can. Don't be a sucker! Revenue from the last 24 months, 12 months and even 6 months is IRRELEVANT. Ask for the last 30 days of VERIFIABLE revenue times it by 3 and don't pay a penny more. If they can't or are unwilling to verify revenue RUN!

Bottom line: BUYER BEWARE.

[Datebizguy]

Good info! Thanks for the headsup.

I sell mailer traffic, that works.. and its safer
in some ways..

if anyone wants some, databizguy @ gmail.com

[Denny]

[AllAboutCams]

GFY is like a scammer haven the amount of fake nicks and people not delivering what they promised is unbelievable.

[tonyparra]

Im buying sites that got google bitch slapped, no revenue numbers needed just traffic xxx-x,xxx daily or if you have a small site that gets xxx daily hit me up dont care about revenue...admin at weirdpornsearch.com...but i agree with op 100% if your looking for revenue generating sites

[CurrentlySober]

i like poo!

[CaptainHowdy]

[EddyTheDog]

"Buyer Beware" is something you should apply to just about every decision you make in life.

[ottopottomouse]

Anyone that needs this advice deserves whatever disaster they buy.

[femdomdestiny]

My last month revenue was 35% better then in previous month so it would be a mistake to follow your logic. ( I am not selling anything just my thought)

[tokmansta]

Originally Posted by SAC

Ask for the last 30 days of VERIFIABLE revenue times it by 3 and don't pay a penny more

3 times? lmao yeah sure il sell my sites for 3 months revenue

[tokmansta]

Originally Posted by tokmansta

3 times? lmao yeah sure il sell my sites for 3 months revenue

I have even paid 24+ times for some sites...

edit: why did i quote myself lmao

[robwod]

I would have assumed that before purchasing anything, be it an online asset or offline tangible asset, that due diligence would be a given. If not, it certainly should be.

ETA: I'd keep my sites and let them rot before I'd ever sell for some ridiculous lowball offer of 90 days revenue. I could sit on my ass, and let them all rot and still make money from them forever -- just turn them on auto pilot instead of keeping people employed to work on them daily. I'm not sure why anyone would sell off their assets for such a low amount.

[tokmansta]

Originally Posted by robwod

ETA:I'm not sure why anyone would sell off their assets for such a low amount.

I agree, the only good buys i have done so far are mostly from webmasters who are quitting the business or are moving to bigger things such as a big webshop or own affiliate program, and they want to remove the clutter from their servers/minds e.t.c.

When a normal webmaster sells a website for less than 12 months revenue, there will always be something fishy about the site.

[Deputy Chief Command]

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

My last month revenue was 35% better then in previous month so it would be a mistake to follow your logic. ( I am not selling anything just my thought)

there is a reason you are not selling and they are ;-)

[bluebook18]

Quoted for truth

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by robwod

ETA: I'd keep my sites and let them rot before I'd ever sell for some ridiculous lowball offer of 90 days revenue. I could sit on my ass, and let them all rot and still make money from them forever -- just turn them on auto pilot instead of keeping people employed to work on them daily. I'm not sure why anyone would sell off their assets for such a low amount.

Yep, absolutely, unless one was desperate for money. I'd leave my sites running, let them bring in sales, even if less than before, it all adds up.

[digitaldivas]

not all websites are like that who are the idiots that sold their sites for 3 months of revenue?!?

[Fat Panda]

Monday PSA bump. BUYER BEWARE

[_Richard_]

dude are we doing shots in phoenix or what

[Fat Panda]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

dude are we doing shots in phoenix or what

sorry I wont be there to drink myself into a coma

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by SAC

sorry I wont be there to drink myself into a coma

you get burned on a recent buy? or you spot it before you purchased?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by SAC

90% of the networks, websites and blogs for sale in the Buy/Sell were bitch slapped by Google and many sellers are trying to pull a fast one on buyers. Their revenue has nosedived and they're trying to cash out while they still can. Don't be a sucker! Revenue from the last 24 months, 12 months and even 6 months is IRRELEVANT. Ask for the last 30 days of VERIFIABLE revenue times it by 3 and don't pay a penny more. If they can't or are unwilling to verify revenue RUN!

Bottom line: BUYER BEWARE.

Some good pointers, except last sentence. Nobody would sell you for genuine last 30 days revenue * only 3 times.

[Nicky]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Some good pointers, except last sentence. Nobody would sell you for genuine last 30 days revenue * only 3 times.

Yea, I have a WL that holds very solid google rankings that made ~$1500 last month, no way I'd sell It for $4,5k.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Nicky

Yea, I have a WL that holds very solid google rankings that made ~$1500 last month, no way I'd sell It for $4,5k.

Plus he speaks about google slapped sites, so lets say your site would be slapped to only 150$/month, it would be even more "no way" to sell for 450$, because then you at least won't be afraid not to earn those 450$ in next 3 months (its already been slapped so not much risk to be slapped again).

[Legendary Samir - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Thats why you need to buy iamlarge.com from this guy
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=19557188

It never had any revenue and most likely never will. Safe buy for serious buyers only!

[Black All Through]

The sites that we've bought in the past 12 months were sites "not for sale", sites that one of the team found searching the web, we then approached the webmasters seeking to buy and in most of the cases, we cut the deal. It's become the best solution. Even if I have to say that in 4 years of buying up sites, we've never been ripped off once. It's common sense to check it's history first, you really don't need advice on this, if you get screwed over, its simply because you didn't do your homework properly.

[slavdogg]

what sites r for sale out there ??

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by SAC

90% of the networks, websites and blogs for sale in the Buy/Sell were bitch slapped by Google and many sellers are trying to pull a fast one on buyers. Their revenue has nosedived and they're trying to cash out while they still can. Don't be a sucker! Revenue from the last 24 months, 12 months and even 6 months is IRRELEVANT. Ask for the last 30 days of VERIFIABLE revenue times it by 3 and don't pay a penny more. If they can't or are unwilling to verify revenue RUN!

Bottom line: BUYER BEWARE.

Isn't revenue ONLY part of the equation?
Unless your are just trying to make a buck 3 months down the road.

What if Sex.com had no traffic?

Or say some Solo site had 50K Photos and 50 Videos and so on...

Anyway.....

[Supz]

It would be cool if the admins would verify sellers quality etc. like they do on other forums. prove ownership etc...

[robwod]

Originally Posted by Supz

It would be cool if the admins would verify sellers quality etc. like they do on other forums. prove ownership etc...

I think this idea has merit, but no longer possible since the board itself seems to have evolved to include more surfers and non-industry people, fake nicks, etc. As such, there are more page views than would likely be with a webmaster only forum. Thus, this board is advertising driven versus webmaster driven. Trying to validate everyone retroactively would be a huge task.

Personally, I'd have no issue with a requirement, even a monetary one, to qualify for a professional level Buy and Sell forum. As much due diligence as one can do, you can still be burned (I certainly have).

To that end, what we did was change all of our domain's whois information to public, which accurately reflects business address, phone number and also the email on all domains is the same address used on our payment accounts (Paypal, Paxum, Payoneer, etc). Thus, when people send money for advertising, links or whatever with us, a quick whois will show them they are purchasing services and sending payment to same address listed in public whois.

Having said that, I firmly believe anyone buying anything, online or off, should certainly exercise due diligence before sending payment to anyone.

[wehateporn]

One thing I often see is that a seller will include rebills when they tell you the sales, in some cases these will have been building for years, but the sale doesn't include the accounts, so they are keeping those rebills after the sale.

I know rebills do vary a lot by niche, but in my own niche they keep on accumulating, so another year of accumulated rebills makes a very nice difference.

[robwod]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

One thing I often see is that a seller will include rebills when they tell you the sales, in some cases these will have been building for years, but the sale doesn't include the accounts, so they are keeping those rebills after the sale.

I know rebills do vary a lot by niche, but in my own niche they keep on accumulating, so another year of accumulated rebills makes a very nice difference.

Anyone in business seriously can tell you down to the penny what each click is worth on their sites. They can also tell you what the avg $$$/RAW and the avg $$$/Unique, what the avg sale is worth over any given period of time. I can tell you what any sponsor sale was worth to us, for example, in any month over the last decade. Understanding your traffic and the sponsors to the point of making educated decisions helps translate this information to a potential buyer.

[spiederman]

Originally Posted by digitaldivas

not all websites are like that who are the idiots that sold their sites for 3 months of revenue?!?

ill buy a site for the last 3 months of revenue any day of the week

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by robwod

Anyone in business seriously can tell you down to the penny what each click is worth on their sites. They can also tell you what the avg $$$/RAW and the avg $$$/Unique, what the avg sale is worth over any given period of time. I can tell you what any sponsor sale was worth to us, for example, in any month over the last decade. Understanding your traffic and the sponsors to the point of making educated decisions helps translate this information to a potential buyer.

For sure, I'm quite a stats man myself so I pay a lot of attention to these things. So when I see a site for sale that made $20,000 in the last year, of which rebills were $10,000, and those rebills had been building up for five years. I know that there's a big difference between buying that site 'with rebills' compared to 'without rebills', even more so if that site was doing $80,000 per year two or three years ago.

I've noticed that many sellers try to pitch the price as if rebills are included, even when they are not. A buyer like you or I would spot that, but some wouldn't.

[GAMEFINEST]

thanks for the heads up

[Struggle4Bucks]

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

GFY is like a scammer haven the amount of fake nicks and people not delivering what they promised is unbelievable.

I fucking agree!