When porn crosses the line

[Marcus Aurelius]

When is that for you? I don't like to see degrading porn, and this is pretty much a constant nowadays. Chicks being roughed up and gagged with cock until they vomit? Is this really what GenY wants to see? I weep for the current generation.

http://efukt.com/20493_Midget_Quits_Anal_Scene.html

[srockhard]

Shouldn't we just watch what we like and sell what others like?

[nikki99]

2 of my female models vomit the meal I gave them for free, I was very pissed off, u spend money in food and they vomit

edit: now I understand ds paying good rates to the models , he makes em cry

[CamTraffic]

nobody made her do it. That s what she chose to do...

[Marcus Aurelius]

Originally Posted by srockhard

Shouldn't we just watch what we like and sell what others like?

Degrading porn also degrades the viewer - that's the problem.

[Google Expert]

It's a pretty fucked up world we live in when a person is willing to humiliate herself like that for cash.

[BlackCrayon]

whats more degrading? taking it up the ass from douchebags or taking it up the ass working for minimum wage?

[topnotch, standup guy]

^^

Who's to say what sort of job is too degrading?

Some people actually apply for jobs as bill collectors.
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[iwiiiiiiiiii]

For me, it's not that she did it and didn't like it or whatever, but some time some girls realize in the middle they are doing a mistake, and in some case we should respect that instead of making fun it them. My 2 cents.

[Lichen]

Ever notice that the credits of filthy porn movies read like a Tel Aviv phone book?

[topnotch, standup guy]

Originally Posted by Lichen

Ever notice that the credits of filthy porn movies read like a Tel Aviv phone book?

Hey Adolf! Good to hear from you man. How you been?

BTW, are the Russians still keeping your skull in that dusty old file cabinet drawer in Moscow or did they finally bury it?
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[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

When is that for you? I don't like to see degrading porn, and this is pretty much a constant nowadays. Chicks being roughed up and gagged with cock until they vomit? Is this really what GenY wants to see? I weep for the current generation.

http://efukt.com/20493_Midget_Quits_Anal_Scene.html

and efukt makes fun with that (the monster at the end)...

[shimmy2]

Originally Posted by M.A+

It's a pretty fucked up world we live in when a person is willing to humiliate herself like that for cash.

wish i was there to help

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by CamTraffic

nobody made her do it. That s what she chose to do...

Oh, she has to predict the future and how do you treat them ?

[Robbie]

Human sexuality is more complex than some of y'all are understanding.

You don't think that a LOT of people ENJOY being degraded and "roughed up"? I don't mean just the people who enjoy watching it...I mean men and women who like being degraded and roughed up.

Some of y'all just assume that the models don't like it.

Some of y'all need to get laid a lot more by different people so you start seeing with your own two eyes that people's sexuality isn't always the vanilla shit that you might like.

Hell...look at the people who get off on scat! I can't understand it at all. Does that mean the models who do it all the time on film are being degraded? Hell no. They love it too.

You guys are trying to see the world through your own narrow view.

After many years of playing in bands and traveling the world and having sex with thousands of girls...and then going into the porn biz in the mid 1990's until now...I've learned that what I often find disgusting turns out to be a big sexual turn on for millions of other people.

Stop being judgmental of other people's sexual desires and pleasure.

Just go back to having missionary style sex once a week (if you're lucky) and learn to live and let live.

[Google Expert]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I've learned that what I often find disgusting turns out to be a big sexual turn on for millions of other people.

Stop being judgmental of other people's sexual desires and pleasure.

Just go back to having missionary style sex once a week (if you're lucky) and learn to live and let live.

Having sex with kids is also a big turn on for millions of other people.
Your argument is invalid.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Just go back to having missionary style sex once a week (if you're lucky) and learn to live and let live.

No, i'm jerking off. Yes, i'm lucky...

[fitzmulti]

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

When is that for you? I don't like to see degrading porn, and this is pretty much a constant nowadays. Chicks being roughed up and gagged with cock until they vomit? Is this really what GenY wants to see? I weep for the current generation.

http://efukt.com/20493_Midget_Quits_Anal_Scene.html

I'd say that is is not "a constant"...
Not saying that it doesn't happen, but it is not a constant...MAYBE 1-1.5 % IF that much.
{gagging til vomiting" I mean...}
I rarely see it in the DVDs I review for some mags.

[leg4]

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue and doing amphetamines.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by M.A+

Having sex with kids is also a big turn on for millions of other people.
Your argument is invalid.

My argument is completely valid.

In our society, at this time in history that is illegal.

Has nothing to do with the point I was making about "degradation" from your narrow point of view.

My 3rd wife was Melonee Mounds. And she would travel the world with Gold Key Entertainment feature dancing. And of course she would run into all types...but to me, at the time...the weirdest ones were the guys who would pay her to take her high heel shoes and stomp on their balls while telling them how ugly they were and how tiny their cocks were...

Do I "understand" that? No.
Does that mean that it's "bad" or that YOU or I can stand in judgement of what turns those guys on?
No.

You're just one person with your own likes, dislikes, and sexual preference.
So stop grasping at straws and talking about illegal stuff and stick to what I'm talking about.
Legal acts between consenting adults.
Neither you or I should be judging what other people enjoy doing. Your view is too narrow and self absorbed.

[DirtyDanza]

I have to chime in here...

Robbie is spot on ....


I can list many many many girls right now that love to be mistreated... in fact I have 2 subs on contract now for that very reason.. to go rough up when I want to and they can't say no... they love the fact they can't say no no matter how vile and disgusting it is... and trust me.. those who know me know im pretty fucking fucked up....

[DirtyDanza]

Originally Posted by M.A+

Having sex with kids is also a big turn on for millions of other people.
Your argument is invalid.

no your arguement is invalid.. children are illegal

rough sex is not illegal

what 2 consenting adults do is what they do....

I bet you would not call me piece of shit disgusting director to my face.... comparing rough sex to pedo is beyond me.. how do you even compare the 2?

[bronco67]

Sometimes you can watch a porn scene and know it was made by a sociopath.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Sometimes you can watch a porn scene and know it was made by a sociopath.

Or you could watch a mainstream movie like "SAW" and think it was made by a complete homicidal maniac!

Or you could separate reality from fantasy and fiction, like most of us who are well-adjusted and not mentally challenged can.

Using your theory...some of the world's greatest literature was written by "sociopaths" because of all the violence and rape and murder in it.

Thank God that none of you have any real power in this world or we would all be under the strictest censorship outside of a Muslim country.
You guys are worse than a bunch of Baptist Christian wackos.

[digitalfantasies]

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

When is that for you? I don't like to see degrading porn, and this is pretty much a constant nowadays. Chicks being roughed up and gagged with cock until they vomit? Is this really what GenY wants to see? I weep for the current generation.

http://efukt.com/20493_Midget_Quits_Anal_Scene.html

I agree 100%, fucked up porn for fuck up people in a fucked up world...personally I find it sad and disturbing... laughing and/or enjoying at someone's humiliation and emotional pain... Maybe we should name it "porn for bullies"

I prefer glamporn.. metart, babes.... obviously I am just a big pussy..

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Or you could watch a mainstream movie like "SAW" and think it was made by a complete homicidal maniac!

Or you could separate reality from fantasy and fiction, like most of us who are well-adjusted and not mentally challenged can.

Using your theory...some of the world's greatest literature was written by "sociopaths" because of all the violence and rape and murder in it.

Thank God that none of you have any real power in this world or we would all be under the strictest censorship outside of a Muslim country.
You guys are worse than a bunch of Baptist Christian wackos.

you know that this is staged?

[BlacksOnBlondes]

Originally Posted by shimmy2

wish i was there to help

Help with what? Do you defend the white girls on our site too? Or just the black ones? Most of our shoots, white girls or black, their boyfriends or husbands are usually on the set, including Cumbang. You get mad when a black woman says she prefers white guys, you can't handle that, but all the white girls we shoot say the same thing in reverse. This is race play, which is extremely popular. If you watch most interracial shoots, they rely heavily on race play. Everybody on our set has a great time.

[CaptainHowdy]

[dyna mo]

imo, the race play at dogfart/interracial sites is what makes interracial interracial. race play makes it taboo.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

When is that for you? I don't like to see degrading porn, and this is pretty much a constant nowadays. Chicks being roughed up and gagged with cock until they vomit? Is this really what GenY wants to see? I weep for the current generation.

http://efukt.com/20493_Midget_Quits_Anal_Scene.html

ds

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

When is that for you? I don't like to see degrading porn, and this is pretty much a constant nowadays. Chicks being roughed up and gagged with cock until they vomit? Is this really what GenY wants to see? I weep for the current generation.

http://efukt.com/20493_Midget_Quits_Anal_Scene.html

this one is better http://efukt.com/20964_Hillbilly_Wan...Cameraman.html


duke

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by BlacksOnBlondes

Help with what? Do you defend the white girls on our site too? Or just the black ones? Most of our shoots, white girls or black, their boyfriends or husbands are usually on the set, including Cumbang. You get mad when a black woman says she prefers white guys, you can't handle that, but all the white girls we shoot say the same thing in reverse. This is race play, which is extremely popular. If you watch most interracial shoots, they rely heavily on race play. Everybody on our set has a great time.

I think Shimmy meant help covering her face with chowder.

BTW, nice site man


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[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I think Shimmy meant help covering her face with chowder.

BTW, nice site man


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a lot of those girls are right at home there, if that's acting, look out meryl streep!

[BlacksOnBlondes]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

imo, the race play at dogfart/interracial sites is what makes interracial interracial. race play makes it taboo.

[BlacksOnBlondes]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I think Shimmy meant help covering her face with chowder.

BTW, nice site man


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Shit, if that's the case my apologies!

[bangeduppeaches]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

I have to chime in here...

Robbie is spot on ....


I can list many many many girls right now that love to be mistreated... in fact I have 2 subs on contract now for that very reason.. to go rough up when I want to and they can't say no... they love the fact they can't say no no matter how vile and disgusting it is... and trust me.. those who know me know im pretty fucking fucked up....

The best sex I ever had was with my ex from college.. It didnt turn into the best sex until after she was on top, stopped what she was doing, and told me to smack the shit out of her.. Being brought up not to raise a hand to the lady folk, I hesitated and gave her a love tap.. After which she basically called me a pussy and I smacked the shit out of her.. She loved it..
Granted she also like being choked.. Go figure :p..

Bottom line is the shit is staged and the girl likes it.. I'm pretty she she doesn't walk into a studio, expecting some nice romantic "love making" with candles and roses just to be met by six dudes that man handle her and gag her.. You would think that's grounds for a lawsuit..

What about the dudes that get off to chicks stomping their shit out with stilettos?

Draw the line at real rape and peddos.. And let the rest do what they want.. If you don't like that kind of porn don't watch it..

My 2 cents, take it or leave it..

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by bangeduppeaches

The best sex I ever had was with my ex from college.. It didnt turn into the best sex until after she was on top, stopped what she was doing, and told me to smack the shit out of her.. Being brought up not to raise a hand to the lady folk, I hesitated and gave her a love tap.. After which she basically called me a pussy and I smacked the shit out of her.. She loved it..
Granted she also like being choked.. Go figure :p..

Bottom line is the shit is staged and the girl likes it.. I'm pretty she she doesn't walk into a studio, expecting some nice romantic "love making" with candles and roses just to be met by six dudes that man handle her and gag her.. You would think that's grounds for a lawsuit..

What about the dudes that get off to chicks stomping their shit out with stilettos?

Draw the line at real rape and peddos.. And let the rest do what they want.. If you don't like that kind of porn don't watch it..

My 2 cents, take it or leave it..

Valid point, i'll take it!
ds

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

whats more degrading? taking it up the ass from douchebags or taking it up the ass working for minimum wage?

Clearly the ass-reaming that is literal and not metaphorical is more degrading. I can't speak for you though.

Originally Posted by Lichen

Ever notice that the credits of filthy porn movies read like a Tel Aviv phone book?

Originally Posted by Robbie

Hell...look at the people who get off on scat! I can't understand it at all. Does that mean the models who do it all the time on film are being degraded? Hell no. They love it too.

How the fuck do you know they "love it", and it's not some down on her luck junkie hooker?

Originally Posted by CamTraffic

nobody made her do it. That s what she chose to do...

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by BlacksOnBlondes

it's something i've been curious about, even thought of starting a thread about it.

it seems that interracial would not even be its own niche if it weren't for the race play. it would just be people fucking.


i wouldn't be surprised if your sales in the south are exponentially greater than everywhere else. and some of y'alls horniest craziest girls are from the south, surprise!

[topnotch, standup guy]

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

When is that for you? I don't like to see degrading porn, and this is pretty much a constant nowadays. Blah, blah, blah...

If you don't like to see it. Don't watch it.

Duh.

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[Barry-xlovecam]

1. No one under 18
2. No bloodletting
3. No forced sex that is not consensual role play
4. No animals
5. No scat

I think these are the minimal requirements.
Most porn I see is either vanilla boring, par for the course, or sticky gooey and messy to me but this is a business so sell 'em what they want to see -- my personal tastes do not determine my product offered.

How many car salesman will only sell you a metallic grey automobile?

[BlacksOnBlondes]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i wouldn't be surprised if your sales in the south are exponentially greater than everywhere else. and some of y'alls horniest craziest girls are from the south, surprise!

Your dead on with this one... Bullseye..

[deltav]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

How many car salesman will only sell you a metallic grey automobile?

One can produce plenty of creative porn without resorting to the misogyny we see in a decent % of it.

And let's be real - to all the people who are saying "the girls enjoy it!" - the vast majority of girls who do porn aren't there because they enjoy being slapped around by some guy's cock, verbally abused, throat-fucked after a little ATM, choked till they almost puke, then verbally abused some more while tears run down their cheeks. They're there because *they need some quick money* for whatever reason(s), many of them have some pretty fucked up stories in one way or another and often the porn gig is just another way for men to treat them like garbage.

Also, the cock-stomping and male humilation stuff - the main audience for that is other sub guys who want to be humiliated themselves and get off on it vicariously. Whereas the main audience of gonzo female throat-fucking/humiliation/whatever vids are guys getting off on women being treated like shit. There's no analogy there.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by deltav

One can produce plenty of creative porn without resorting to the misogyny we see in a decent % of it.

And let's be real - to all the people who are saying "the girls enjoy it!" - the vast majority of girls who do porn aren't there because they enjoy being slapped around by some guy's cock, verbally abused, throat-fucked after a little ATM, choked till they almost puke, then verbally abused some more while tears run down their cheeks. They're there because *they need some quick money* for whatever reason(s), many of them have some pretty fucked up stories in one way or another and often the porn gig is just another way for men to treat them like garbage.

Also, the cock-stomping and male humilation stuff - the main audience for that is other sub guys who want to be humiliated themselves and get off on it vicariously. Whereas the main audience of gonzo female throat-fucking/humiliation/whatever vids are guys getting off on women being treated like shit. There's no analogy there.

do you think these producers are filling a void? or creating one? they wouldn't keep producing it if it didn't sell.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

How the fuck do you know they "love it", and it's not some down on her luck junkie hooker?

Because I'm actually in the porn biz and know a lot of porn girls, sex workers, strippers, etc. While you, on the other hand, are making truly derogatory generalizations of women.

You are a narrow minded sexually repressed person (at least that's what your comment leads me to believe)

[deltav]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

do you think these producers are filling a void? or creating one? they wouldn't keep producing it if it didn't sell.

Oh, for sure there's demand for it. I'm just saying the target audience by far is dudes who enjoy watching women get treated like shit, not women who enjoy being treated like shit.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

you know that this is staged?

What is staged? Your comment has nothing to do with what I said about literature. lol

If you mean do I understand the difference between fiction and reality...DUH...that was the point of my post.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Robbie

What is staged? Your comment has nothing to do with what I said about literature. lol

If you mean do I understand the difference between fiction and reality...DUH...that was the point of my post.

sorry you're talking about the separation of fantasy and fiction.

suggests that you feel these videos are staged, or at best, 'fantasy'

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by deltav

One can produce plenty of creative porn without resorting to the misogyny we see in a decent % of it.

And let's be real - to all the people who are saying "the girls enjoy it!" - the vast majority of girls who do porn aren't there because they enjoy being slapped around by some guy's cock, verbally abused, throat-fucked after a little ATM, choked till they almost puke, then verbally abused some more while tears run down their cheeks. They're there because *they need some quick money* for whatever reason(s), many of them have some pretty fucked up stories in one way or another and often the porn gig is just another way for men to treat them like garbage.

Also, the cock-stomping and male humilation stuff - the main audience for that is other sub guys who want to be humiliated themselves and get off on it vicariously. Whereas the main audience of gonzo female throat-fucking/humiliation/whatever vids are guys getting off on women being treated like shit. There's no analogy there.

They are there for lots of reasons: laziness, daddy issues, some like it, some like the attention, some like being doted over by save a hoes etc. it comes down to 1 thing: the values that they were raised with. So basically blame the parents.
Ds

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by deltav

Oh, for sure there's demand for it. I'm just saying the target audience by far is dudes who enjoy watching women get treated like shit, not women who enjoy being treated like shit.

The audience is DEFINITELY people who enjoy watching it.

As for being "treated like shit"...again, that's just an ignorant statement.

Have you ever been to a "dungeon" for instance? I'm not talking about Kink.Com's porn set.

I'm talking about a true swingers bondage party. Nobody is filming anything there. And I'm sure that with your vanilla sex mind you would walk in and declare that everyone is treating everyone else "like shit".

In reality they are doing EXACTLY what they enjoy sexually.

I've seen men strapped up in the air like Jesus on the cross with their petite, tiny schoolteacher wife beating the hell out of them with a whip until he cums all over the place.

I've seen little housewives tied down and gangbanged while their husband throat fucked her until she gagged. And then later that night see her excitedly talking about coming back the next week for the "party".

You guys don't have a fucking clue about sex.