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Old 04-14-2013, 11:54 AM   #1
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Looks like Jay Z bought the t-shirt but didn't read the book. Is he self-fulfilling Che's statements or just a political and historical dumbass?

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio has weighed in on Jay-Z's controversial trip to Cuba, saying the rapper-turned-mogul and fledgling sports agent needs to educate himself about the island's oppressive regime.

"First of all, I think Jay-Z needs to get informed," Rubio said on ?This Week with George Stephanopoulos" on Sunday. "One of his heroes is Che Guevara. Che Guevara was a racist. Che Guevara was a racist that wrote extensively about the superiority of white Europeans over people of African descent, so he should inform himself on the guy that he?s propping up."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/m...-politics.html

I read once when Che walked out on his kids he dressed in disguise to see if they would recognize him. He wanted to be anonymous. Thought that was a good test.

Growing up in Florida and having Cuban girlfriends and friends I heard some pretty horrible stories through their parents. Some revolution.
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Looks like Jay Z bought the t-shirt but didn't read the book. Is he self-fulfilling Che's statements or just a political and historical dumbass?

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio has weighed in on Jay-Z's controversial trip to Cuba, saying the rapper-turned-mogul and fledgling sports agent needs to educate himself about the island's oppressive regime.

"First of all, I think Jay-Z needs to get informed," Rubio said on ?This Week with George Stephanopoulos" on Sunday. "One of his heroes is Che Guevara. Che Guevara was a racist. Che Guevara was a racist that wrote extensively about the superiority of white Europeans over people of African descent, so he should inform himself on the guy that he?s propping up."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/m...-politics.html

I read once when Che walked out on his kids he dressed in disguise to see if they would recognize him. He wanted to be anonymous. Thought that was a good test.

Growing up in Florida and having Cuban girlfriends and friends I heard some pretty horrible stories through their parents. Some revolution.
it's a strange thing that che has been elevated to cult status simply because his mug is on a t-shirt.

dude was a murderer.
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it's a strange thing that che has been elevated to cult status simply because his mug is on a t-shirt.

dude was a murderer.
I remember when the image first appeared. It was some kind of statement against, "the man." It seems it was kerosene fighting gasoline in retrospect. I guess marketers thought he gave great "face." Probably the same idiots who "invented" free porn.
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I dont get Cuba is bad because they are communist but china is communist and treats their people worse but they are ok.
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Didn't Beyonce do private concerts for Gaddafi's birthday parties or something? The two of them are soulless scumbags.
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Cuba is demonized by the USA .. and it is so funny ...

Cuba is a poor country, but 100% educated and not miserable ...
I will be there on the 20th for a vacation .... amazing beaches .. with noTacos Bell, McD, or BK, or KFC ...
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Didn't Beyonce do private concerts for Gaddafi's birthday parties or something? The two of them are soulless scumbags.
Didn't Condeleza Rice spend time with Gaddafi ...????

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I dont get Cuba is bad because they are communist but china is communist and treats their people worse but they are ok.
Cuba doesn't give us cheap flat screen TVs and Iphones. The only thing Cuba ever gave us is those shitty ham sandwiches with pickles on them. And cigars.

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Didn't Condeleza Rice spend time with Gaddafi ...????

She's a scumbag, too.
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Cuba is demonized by the USA .. and it is so funny ...

Cuba is a poor country, but 100% educated and not miserable ...
I will be there on the 20th for a vacation .... amazing beaches .. with noTacos Bell, McD, or BK, or KFC ...
No taco bell. bk or kfc because its communist and they dont let people earn money with businesses like this. Oh The Irony...
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Cuba doesn't give us cheap flat screen TVs and Iphones. The only thing Cuba ever gave us is those shitty ham sandwiches with pickles on them. And cigars.
Then theres the very minor issue of nuclear missiles a few years back!
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Marco Rubio is a joke himself. He has lied about his parents immigration to the US to escape Castro and communism (even though they left years before Castro came to power), and anything else to garner support of the Tea Party (his real base).

Another Castro collaborator:



Establishing better relations with Cuba would probably go a lot further towards promoting US style democracy in Cuba than the current stand-off for the past half-century which has accomplished little.



What does Jay-Z have to say about their trip:



Jay-Z responds to his critics with the "Open Letter" video:



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[Intro]
Ladies and gentlemen
Goddamnit
Let this shit knock

[Verse 1]
I done turned Havana to Atlanta
Guayabera shirts and bandanas
Every time you think they got me I switch the plan up
Bulletproof this, radio scanners
Ballin' 'til they ban us

You gettin' too much bread, they try to jam you
Boy from the hood but got White House clearance
Sorry y'all, I don't agree with y'all appearance
Politicians never did shit for me
Except lie to me, distort history

Wanna give me jail time and a fine
Fine, let me commit a real crime
I might buy a kilo for Chief Keef
Out of spite, I just might flood these streets
Hear the freedom in my speech

Got an onion from Universal, read it and weep
Would've brought the Nets to Brooklyn for free
Except I made millions off it, you fuckin' dweeb
I still own the building, I'm still keeping my seat
Y'all buy that bullshit, you'd better keep y'all receipt

Obama said "chill, you gonna get me impeached"
But you don't need this shit anyway
Chill with me on the beach

[Hook - Swizz Beatz]
Y'all gon' learn today

[Verse 2]
Ya'll almost want to start a revolution
You know whenever I'm threatened, I start shooting (BANG!)
Catch a body, head to Houston
I'm in Cuba, I love Cubans

This communist talk is so confusing
When it's from China, the very mic that I'm using
Idiot wind, the Bob Dylan of rap music
You're an idiot, baby, you should become a student

Oh, you gonna learn today
Where the fuck have you been
The world's under new management
The new role model, fuck this Zoolander shit


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No taco bell. bk or kfc because its communist and they dont let people earn money with businesses like this. Oh The Irony...
Oh, I thought it was because of your blockus ..... They have started to allow private business .

yep, quite ironic ...

BTW, you talk about it ... have you ever been to Cuba ?
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i look forward to lounging on a beautiful cuban beach one day!

i never get to vaca out that way, other than 1 time in bvi for 2 weeks-ish, which was super fun. we've end up going to hawaii more often, being on the west coast.
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Ernesto Guevara was a commie fuck.
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it's a strange thing that che has been elevated to cult status simply because his mug is on a t-shirt.

dude was a murderer.
Same thing with Mao.

So much so there are pictures of the guy all over the Chinese/Mexican restaurant "China Poblano" in the Cosmopolitan in Las Vegas. I just ate there 30 mins ago.

Unreal
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Same thing with Mao.

So much so there are pictures of the guy all over the Chinese/Mexican restaurant "China Poblano" in the Cosmopolitan in Las Vegas. I just ate there 30 mins ago.

Unreal
wow. that is unreal. bizarre.

although i find fusion restaurants bizarre anyway! there's an irish/mexican one i remember that still makes me wonder.
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I remember when the image first appeared. It was some kind of statement against, "the man." It seems it was kerosene fighting gasoline in retrospect. I guess marketers thought he gave great "face." Probably the same idiots who "invented" free porn.
I own one of the original prints of that image (Guerrillero Heroico) autographed by the photographer Alberto Korda.

There are two things I own that I have yet to bring to Asia. That photograph, and a 1972 Fender Jazz bass.
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wow. that is unreal. bizarre.

although i find fusion restaurants bizarre anyway! there's an irish/mexican one i remember that still makes me wonder.
Eh, it's all relative. You could say there's a genocidal maniac on the face of the twenty-dollar bill. Which is worse?
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I own one of the original prints of that image (Guerrillero Heroico) autographed by the photographer Alberto Korda.

There are two things I own that I have yet to bring to Asia. That photograph, and a 1972 Fender Jazz bass.
what's the backstory on that? any info on how the photo evolved into the pop icon merchandising thing?
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Eh, it's all relative. You could say there's a genocidal maniac on the face of the twenty-dollar bill. Which is worse?
i'm figuring mao in a restaurant. that stuff makes me queasy when food is around!
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what's the backstory on that? any info on how the photo evolved into the pop icon merchandising thing?
There is a Wiki on the image that tells the entire story. The top image on the right is what the full frame looks like, which is what I have. It was later cropped down to just show Che.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrillero_Heroico

If I still lived in the USA I would be collecting a lot more art and iconic photos from Cuba. I'm fascinated with it. It's just not practical now that I live in Asia. I thought maybe I could replace Cuba with Myanmar (Burma) but it just doesn't resonate with me like Cuba does. I was hooked on Cuba the first time I went there and can't seem to shake it. Looking forward to going back.
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There is a Wiki on the image that tells the entire story. The top image on the right is what the full frame looks like, which is what I have. It was later cropped down to just show Che.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrillero_Heroico

If I still lived in the USA I would be collecting a lot more art and iconic photos from Cuba. I'm fascinated with it. It's just not practical now that I live in Asia. I thought maybe I could replace Cuba with Myanmar (Burma) but it just doesn't resonate with me like Cuba does. I was hooked on Cuba the first time I went there and can't seem to shake it. Looking forward to going back.
oh wow, that is one impressive photo. i think i get it now, it's the photograph, not the person in it that is special. the t-shirt and all the merchandising hides that i guess.
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1 thing i would get a kick out of while visiting there would be all the old american cars that i understand they have there and take really good care of. not sure if that's still the case.
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1 thing i would get a kick out of while visiting there would be all the old american cars that i understand they have there and take really good care of. not sure if that's still the case.
I'll take some pics when I go there in August, I have my flight to Havana already booked ;)
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Antique U.S. cars are Cuba?s new vehicles for change
It's now possible to operate private taxis in socialist Cuba. The result: an explosion of old U.S. cars.
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/20..._change. html
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Cuba is demonized by the USA .. and it is so funny ...

Cuba is a poor country, but 100% educated and not miserable ...
I will be there on the 20th for a vacation .... amazing beaches .. with noTacos Bell, McD, or BK, or KFC ...
Lucky guy...Imagine a world without all the american fast food bullshit.

Love him or hate him moore's sicko revealed an amazing Cuba. It would be great if Cuba could rise without the american biz invasion.
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I'll take some pics when I go there in August, I have my flight to Havana already booked ;)

nice! are you going there on vaca or biz?

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http://www.thestar.com/news/world/20..._change. html
wow, that's crazy..
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Marco Rubio is a joke himself. He has lied about his parents immigration to the US to escape Castro and communism (even though they left years before Castro came to power), and anything else to garner support of the Tea Party (his real base).
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Thats all fine and I agree with you. However, I am completely against the US form of democracy. Its just vulture capitalism in a cheap suit.
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oh wow, that is one impressive photo. i think i get it now, it's the photograph, not the person in it that is special. the t-shirt and all the merchandising hides that i guess.
Right, most people have no idea about his story, only that he was a revolutionary.
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It's now possible to operate private taxis in socialist Cuba. The result: an explosion of old U.S. cars.
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/20..._change. html
i'm not so sure i'd ride in 1 of those after rereading the article!
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It's now possible to operate private taxis in socialist Cuba. The result: an explosion of old U.S. cars.
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/20..._change. html
They were already everywhere there, now they are just legal taxis. Before, if we wanted a bootleg taxi, we would have to jump in the back and lay down in the back seat so no one could see is.

I hear Starbucks and McDonalds both already have their ocean front locations (along the Malecón in Havana) reserved for when they can legally get up there.
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i'm not so sure i'd ride in 1 of those after rereading the article!
Cuban mechanics are incredible. You can open up hoods and see filters made with a Mason jar and a garden hose, attached all sorts of crazy ways. They have been cut off from the world so they can't get parts to many things they need so they Jerry rig EVERYTHING. Water heaters in the house, car engines, you name it. They had to make do and they did.
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nice! are you going there on vaca or biz?
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Strictly vacation, I think I deserve one ;)

And having almost no internet coverage will help to unwind - lol
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Cuban mechanics are incredible. You can open up hoods and see filters made with a Mason jar and a garden hose, attached all sorts of crazy ways. They have been cut off from the world so they can't get parts to many things they need so they Jerry rig EVERYTHING. Water heaters in the house, car engines, you name it. They had to make do and they did.
i think if i approach it like riding one of those rides at the carnival set-up for the weekend in the local parking lot, then i think i could hop in!
i had known they were very resourceful in maintaining the cars, the article just made it sound like any and every car up on bricks could be decommissioned and made into a taxi. maybe i over-read it but it all adds to sounding like a blast anyway! crazy trip i bet.

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Old 04-14-2013, 04:49 PM   #38
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J doesnt have to do shit. he better educate himself on his net worth united states does the same shit just a different way
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:09 PM   #39
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What's so funny?
you needs to ask ????
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What's so funny?
something more balanced for you:

http://cuba-embargo.procon.org/

BTW, did you ever go to Cuba or you stick with Mexico and Hawai ?
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:33 PM   #41
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something more balanced for you:

http://cuba-embargo.procon.org/

BTW, did you ever go to Cuba or you stick with Mexico and Hawai ?
More balanced? How is a site run by a bunch of non Cuban do-gooders and useful idiots more balanced than one run by real Cubans who have first hand experience with what Cuba is really like?

I'm guessing you can't stop admiring your Che Guevara t-shirt long enough to consider that.

Phil Lord: Jay-Z's Cuba Trip And 'Open Letter' Are 'Nihilism With A Beat'

And no I've never been to Cuba and I refuse to. Hawaii sure sounds good though.
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More balanced? How is a site run by a bunch of non Cuban do-gooders and useful idiots more balanced than one run by real Cubans who have first hand experience with what Cuba is really like?

I'm guessing you can't stop admiring your Che Guevara t-shirt long enough to consider that.

Phil Lord: Jay-Z's Cuba Trip And 'Open Letter' Are 'Nihilism With A Beat'

And no I've never been to Cuba and I refuse to. Hawaii sure sounds good though.
I don`t give a shit about Guevara, tough he is more popular in Cuba then Castro.

Your site is runned by covert operatives to unstabalize Cuba AND Venezuela ( have you ever been to either countries ?? ) funded by USA special budgets ( CIA ) . They are not `real `cubans, but decesdents of those that were in cohoot with Batista and the UFB ...

The site I posted has 2 columns : pro & con ... that makes it balanced....

Where are you from in Canada : Alberta or Manitoba....
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And no I've never been to Cuba and I refuse to.
what an open mind .....
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Strictly vacation, I think I deserve one ;)

And having almost no internet coverage will help to unwind - lol
Would love to go, have fun!!
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Strictly vacation, I think I deserve one ;)

And having almost no internet coverage will help to unwind - lol
You a lucky boy...bring me back some afro-cubano cholita ok?
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Being this is a WM board, hope someone mentioned Cuban girls are fucking gorgeous.
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Being this is a WM board, hope someone mentioned Cuban girls are fucking gorgeous.
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Being this is a WM board, hope someone mentioned Cuban girls are fucking gorgeous.
You would love mongering there. As a foreign male, in many of the clubs you're treated like a piece of meat thrown into a piranha tank. It's glorious.
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You would love mongering there. As a foreign male, in many of the clubs you're treated like a piece of meat thrown into a piranha tank. It's glorious.
i'm going with 2 friends - both speak spanish and one has a friend living in Cuba. it should be fun
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They were already everywhere there, now they are just legal taxis. Before, if we wanted a bootleg taxi, we would have to jump in the back and lay down in the back seat so no one could see is.
Hahaaa, maaan. You did that too?
My Spanish was still non-existent when I went to Cuba years ago and I never really understood why they made me do that. This was only at night on inter-city roads though. In the daytime it was no problem, chicks on my lap, bottle of rum in my hand. Young and ignorant.
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oh wow, that is one impressive photo. i think i get it now, it's the photograph, not the person in it that is special. the t-shirt and all the merchandising hides that i guess.
Very strong photo indeed. It makes sense now.
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