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Old 04-22-2013, 03:24 AM   #1
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Guess what's missing in the 1000s of Boston conspiracy posts all over the web

Proof.

But that seems to be a minor detail to the nutters. And it certainly won't stop them.
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Where is your proof that they are nutters?
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There still hasn't been any proof that they did it either. We haven't been shown anything, just told that they did it.

So really, the public has no fucking clue either way.
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There still hasn't been any proof that they did it either. We haven't been shown anything, just told that they did it.

So really, the public has no fucking clue either way.
I guess it was just 2 random innocent people who had some bombs with them in case they would ever be involved in a police chase.

I noticed lately you are turning into a conspiracy nutter as well. Let me guess, you think these 2 might be innocent because you believe the government is behind it. Am i close?

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I didn't say that, so please don't put words in my mouth. I'm just not dumb enough to believe everything the media force feeds us. Like some of us here seem willing to do.

What do you care anyhow? This story has nothing to do with you or your country. I don't give two shits what happens in your country, why the fuck you get so involved in US related discussions makes no sense to me.
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And how do you know they had the bombs during the chase? Did you see them?

Nope, you just eat whatever you are fed. Much like a baby. Unable to figure things out for yourself, you have to rely on someone else to inform you.

Sorry man, I have children...I'm not one.
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Proof.
Wrong, look what's on a well-known site right now

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It's a pretty huge leap of logic to assume that just because you haven't seen "proof" that meets your standards and that can satisfy you, that there's a problem.

The "proof" comes out in trial. Not before. It's a criminal case with an ongoing investigation.
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How many innocent people walk around with bombs you'd say?
I bet you will ignore this again. Because you obviously are looking for a government conspiracy. And 2 muslim idiots with bombs won't fit your theory.
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Oh,... case closed.

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Franck is the first to say IGNORE the nutters and they will stop making threads... they are just trolling

and what is the first thread I see at the top this morning??? Franck making a nutter thread hahaha.. go figure
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Yes, totally inconceivable that there would be added, highly trained, well prepared security hired at an international event where 10's of 1000's would be packed into the streets, that's highly vulnerable to terrorist attack. I can see why that's confusing. Obviously, a fist full of poorly trained, morbidly obese city cops were plenty to deal with terrorism.
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And how do you know they had the bombs during the chase? Did you see them?

Nope, you just eat whatever you are fed. Much like a baby. Unable to figure things out for yourself, you have to rely on someone else to inform you.

Sorry man, I have children...I'm not one.
Fuck me...you really turning into one of them.
I feel sorry for you man...
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Franck is the first to say IGNORE the nutters and they will stop making threads... they are just trolling

and what is the first thread I see at the top this morning??? Franck making a nutter thread hahaha.. go figure
Talking about ignoring someone...
You're going on my ignore list.

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Oh,... case closed.

Thanks.
Guess what's missing in that post on ATS....

Amazing how the imbecile is using that as an example.
Then again, he's just trolling.
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So we merely saw someone claiming that he has proof, not the proof itself. Am I correct?
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So we merely saw someone claiming that he has proof, not the proof itself. Am I correct?
Ofcourse...doh...
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Maybe we should all shut the fuck up until we hear what the kid has to say?

Or will you all disregard his statements because the Chechen brothers were clearly subjects of paramilitary behavioral engineering programs that worked in conjunction with Boston area biomedical companies?


So we have no proof of them bombing the marathon, getting involved in a shootout, killing a campus police officer, shooting a transit cop, or anything else?

Why run if you're not guilty?
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So we have no proof of them bombing the marathon, getting involved in a shootout, killing a campus police officer, shooting a transit cop, or anything else?
Nop, all fake..all the people involved are part of the conspiracy ofcourse.
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Wrong, look what's on a well-known site right now

So its the sheep who listen to anything the media has to say but some dude named peterlopez42 makes a post on a forum website designed as a watercooler for internet mental patients claiming proof of a false flag and then offering nothing but dribble is seen as real proof for you?

great work there, your accurate predictions and balanced thinking is something very special
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So its the sheep who listen to anything the media has to say but some dude named peterlopez42 makes a post on a forum website designed as a watercooler for internet mental patients claiming proof of a false flag and then offering nothing but dribble is seen as real proof for you?

great work there, your accurate predictions and balanced thinking is something very special
That site is something special for sure.
Every other post someone claims to have proof of whatever conspiracy...i don't think i've seen any proof of any conspiracy there...ever. Amazing isn't it?
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This story has nothing to do with you or your country. I don't give two shits what happens in your country, why the fuck you get so involved in US related discussions makes no sense to me
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Franck is the first to say IGNORE the nutters and they will stop making threads... they are just trolling

and what is the first thread I see at the top this morning??? Franck making a nutter thread hahaha.. go figure
I like Frank, but I concur... dude been cryin hella hard lately about nothin much
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There still hasn't been any proof that they did it either. We haven't been shown anything, just told that they did it.

So really, the public has no fucking clue either way.
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So its the sheep who listen to anything the media has to say but some dude named peterlopez42 makes a post on a forum website designed as a watercooler for internet mental patients claiming proof of a false flag and then offering nothing but dribble is seen as real proof for you?
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Talking about ignoring someone...
You're going on my ignore list.

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haha cannot handle the truth you loser, your the first one to bitch about this shit yet you add to it LOL, you really are a fucking loser in every possible way
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So we merely saw someone claiming that he has proof, not the proof itself. Am I correct?

He is insider
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Please please dont point that out.. Then they get all riled up and start new ones.
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I guess it was just 2 random innocent people who had some bombs with them in case they would ever be involved in a police chase.
I don't know if they did it or not. However...

1) Where is the video of the police chase and them throwing bombs at the police? EVERY police car in the USA has dash cams now. Until such a video surfaces, there is no proof unless you were there and saw it with your own eyes. The police also can't seem to get their stories together on what happened. Some say a bomb went off, some say it didn't. The same for eye witnesses in the neighbor hood who seem / heard it. A pressure cooker bomb isn't something that slips by so fast and quietly that you're not sure if you saw it explode or not.

2) Where is the actual video of both brothers putting the bombs down? There is no shortage of images with them walking with the bags, there is even a video. But without the bags, there is ONE image that isn't really conclusive as it only shows one side, yet his arm is in a carry position. This is not enough proof to convict someone of such a crime.

Of course the brother may admit he did it, be it a forced admission or not like they do with the prisoners in Gitmo, but there isn't solid proof in either direction. There is plenty of evidence to make them suspects, but I've yet to see solid proof of anything. We have select images and eye witness accounts from various people that don't all match up. That's it. There must be shots of both them somewhere, clear shots, walking away without the backpacks. Without those, I simply can't believe what the government or media says for the sake of wanting it to be true. Both have a long record of lying and distorting the truth

Solid proof isn't too much to ask for if you're supposed to support a lynching.
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Why run if you're not guilty?
Because you're scared to death. A knee jerk reaction and fear of what is about to happen to you. I'd probably run too at first until I could gather my thoughts. Logical reaction for something like that, guilty or not.

Also remember, they didn't leave town after the bombing. So they didn't run until they were chased and their faces shown on TV as being wanted.

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Oh, well that settles it. He has proof. Case closed. I retract all my statements.
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I don't know if they did it or not. However...

1) Where is the video of the police chase and them throwing bombs at the police? EVERY police car in the USA has dash cams now. Until such a video surfaces, there is no proof unless you were there and saw it with your own eyes. The police also can't seem to get their stories together on what happened. Some say a bomb went off, some say it didn't. The same for eye witnesses in the neighbor hood who seem / heard it. A pressure cooker bomb isn't something that slips by so fast and quietly that you're not sure if you saw it explode or not.

2) Where is the actual video of both brothers putting the bombs down? There is no shortage of images with them walking with the bags, there is even a video. But without the bags, there is ONE image that isn't really conclusive as it only shows one side, yet his arm is in a carry position. This is not enough proof to convict someone of such a crime.

Of course the brother may admit he did it, be it a forced admission or not like they do with the prisoners in Gitmo, but there isn't solid proof in either direction. There is plenty of evidence to make them suspects, but I've yet to see solid proof of anything. We have select images and eye witness accounts from various people that don't all match up. That's it. There must be shots of both them somewhere, clear shots, walking away without the backpacks. Without those, I simply can't believe what the government or media says for the sake of wanting it to be true. Both have a long record of lying and distorting the truth

Solid proof isn't too much to ask for if you're supposed to support a lynching.

the police chase was brief, a watertown local security squad car came across the brothers, who were in separate vehicles, they almost immediately stopped and began the shootout, only another handful of cops showed up, current reports say 6, then it was over. in the mean time, there are many many tweets and social network comments from people that live on that block that write about bomb(s) going off right out their window.

there is video of the younger brother setting the bag down, according to current news sources, it has not been released, i believe because it is actual evidence.
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And how do you know they had the bombs during the chase? Did you see them?

Nope, you just eat whatever you are fed. Much like a baby. Unable to figure things out for yourself, you have to rely on someone else to inform you.

Sorry man, I have children...I'm not one.
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I don't know if they did it or not. However...

1) Where is the video of the police chase and them throwing bombs at the police? EVERY police car in the USA has dash cams now. Until such a video surfaces, there is no proof unless you were there and saw it with your own eyes. The police also can't seem to get their stories together on what happened. Some say a bomb went off, some say it didn't. The same for eye witnesses in the neighbor hood who seem / heard it. A pressure cooker bomb isn't something that slips by so fast and quietly that you're not sure if you saw it explode or not.

2) Where is the actual video of both brothers putting the bombs down? There is no shortage of images with them walking with the bags, there is even a video. But without the bags, there is ONE image that isn't really conclusive as it only shows one side, yet his arm is in a carry position. This is not enough proof to convict someone of such a crime.

Of course the brother may admit he did it, be it a forced admission or not like they do with the prisoners in Gitmo, but there isn't solid proof in either direction. There is plenty of evidence to make them suspects, but I've yet to see solid proof of anything. We have select images and eye witness accounts from various people that don't all match up. That's it. There must be shots of both them somewhere, clear shots, walking away without the backpacks. Without those, I simply can't believe what the government or media says for the sake of wanting it to be true. Both have a long record of lying and distorting the truth

Solid proof isn't too much to ask for if you're supposed to support a lynching.
Pigshit...you are not being asked to support anything. Twelve people will be shown evidence of guilt in a court of law...and will be asked to decide if it is "proof" of guilt...beyond a reasonable doubt. You will not be asked to be one of the twelve.
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Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick said surveillance video from the bombing shows Dzhokhar Tsarnaev dropping his backpack and calmly walking away from it before the bomb inside exploded. "It's pretty clear about his involvement and pretty chilling, frankly," Patrick said on NBC's "Meet the Press."
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Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick said surveillance video from the bombing shows Dzhokhar Tsarnaev dropping his backpack and calmly walking away from it before the bomb inside exploded. "It's pretty clear about his involvement and pretty chilling, frankly," Patrick said on NBC's "Meet the Press."
He had been told he was doing a drug drop
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Green accord license: 116GC7 involved in shooting. Crashed cop car windows shot out. 62 laurel #mitshooting #boston pic.twitter.com/BHFvp42UkC
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Shoot out with 5 minutes of gun fire and pressure cooker bomb. #mit #boston #shooting #bombs pic.twitter.com/0UDBNFzQZS
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He had been told he was doing a drug drop
Sure, spin it to suit your beliefs.
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Site of the bomb explosion on laurel st. bomb detectors are out #mitshooting #boston #mit pic.twitter.com/jjsqynbbzL
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the police chase was brief, a watertown local security squad car came across the brothers, who were in separate vehicles, they almost immediately stopped and began the shootout, only another handful of cops showed up, current reports say 6, then it was over. in the mean time, there are many many tweets and social network comments from people that live on that block that write about bomb(s) going off right out their window.

there is video of the younger brother setting the bag down, according to current news sources, it has not been released, i believe because it is actual evidence.
Obviously they are all part of the conspiracy.
Just like there are always 100's if not 1000's of people involved in these things if you believe the theories of the nutters.
They don't consider this a problem.
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Suspect may be in 18 oak st. Next door to us. 9 brave people in a basement #mitshooting #mit #Boston pic.twitter.com/61DuzEzVob
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And how do you know they had the bombs during the chase? Did you see them?

Nope, you just eat whatever you are fed. Much like a baby. Unable to figure things out for yourself, you have to rely on someone else to inform you.

Sorry man, I have children...I'm not one.
Think Johnnyboi got to this one.....in him the force is strooong !
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I don't know if they did it or not. However...

1) Where is the video of the police chase and them throwing bombs at the police? EVERY police car in the USA has dash cams now. Until such a video surfaces, there is no proof unless you were there and saw it with your own eyes. The police also can't seem to get their stories together on what happened. Some say a bomb went off, some say it didn't. The same for eye witnesses in the neighbor hood who seem / heard it. A pressure cooker bomb isn't something that slips by so fast and quietly that you're not sure if you saw it explode or not.

2) Where is the actual video of both brothers putting the bombs down? There is no shortage of images with them walking with the bags, there is even a video. But without the bags, there is ONE image that isn't really conclusive as it only shows one side, yet his arm is in a carry position. This is not enough proof to convict someone of such a crime.

Of course the brother may admit he did it, be it a forced admission or not like they do with the prisoners in Gitmo, but there isn't solid proof in either direction. There is plenty of evidence to make them suspects, but I've yet to see solid proof of anything. We have select images and eye witness accounts from various people that don't all match up. That's it. There must be shots of both them somewhere, clear shots, walking away without the backpacks. Without those, I simply can't believe what the government or media says for the sake of wanting it to be true. Both have a long record of lying and distorting the truth

Solid proof isn't too much to ask for if you're supposed to support a lynching.
Dont they publish their evidence at a trial ?

Or do you all want in right now ? On a website so you can all debunk it ?
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The release of the pictures, however, meant a full identification was inevitable ? and rapid. High school friends of Dzhokhar immediately recognised him as ?White Hat? and began phoning the FBI hotline.

Knowing they would soon be arrested at their home in Cambridge, the site of Harvard University, or else on Dzhokhar?s University of Massachusetts campus an hour south at Dartmouth, the brothers seem to have decided to break cover.

With no apparent escape plan, they must have hoped to die in a blaze of glory, taking a few more people with them. The precise sequence of events remains unclear but within the space of two hours beginning just before midnight the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) camps and nearby Watertown became a war zone.

Shortly before midnight, less than seven hours after the photographs had been released, a man in his twenties was driving his black Mercedes-Benz on the campus of when the brothers held him up at gunpoint and jumped in. He was forced to drive to ATM machines and take out cash.

Police say that around then same time officers investigating an unconnected robbery at a nearby 7-Eleven found footage of Dzohkhar on the CCTV. At around the same time, Sean Collier, 26, an MIT police officer, was shot multiple times by the brothers as he sat in his cruiser - a senior officer later described it as a "savage assassination".

Now on full alert, the police began tracking the Mercedes via a GPS system in the car. On Memorial Drive, 1˝ miles from where they had killed Collier, the brothers pushed their hostage out of his vehicle and headed to Watertown.

The man ran into a Shell petrol station screaming: ?Call the police! Call the police! These people are trying to kill me!? He was so agitated the cashier thought he was drunk.

Why the brothers spared the man?s life is unclear ? not least because, as he later told the FBI, they had boasted to him of carrying out the bombings.

At 12.40am, 15 minutes after the carjacking victim ran into the petrol station, Stephen McAlpin and his wife, Emily, were in bed when they heard gunfire outside their flat at 40 Laurel Street. The young couple threw themselves on the floor and called 911.

As the gunfire got closer and was accompanied by explosions, a bullet came through the wall, lodging itself in their television set. Outside the brothers were flinging grenades and shooting at the police, injuring several, one of them critically.



The McAlpins crawled into their kitchen and were taking shelter under the table with their dog Taco. ?I didn?t know if we were going to make it out of there,? McAlpin said.

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The brothers were outside the Mercedes as they challenged the police. Tamerlan was wearing a suicide bomber?s belt but did not have time to detonate it. Hit by several bullets, he crumpled to the ground.

Dzhokhar jumped back into the car, put it into reverse and backed over his brother as he sped off. Tamerlan died in hospital after being wheeled into the operating room in handcuffs.

With officers tending to their wounded comrades and unable to put up a cordon, Dzhokhar abandoned the car and disappeared on foot, probably creeping through gardens until he found refuge in Henneberry?s boat.

More than a million people were told to stay indoors by Deval Patrick, the Massachusetts governor, in an unprecedented lockdown of Boston, Watertown and neighbouring towns.

As officers went door to door in Watertown, the subway closed down, buses and taxis were suspended and an eerie silence descended over the streets. A Red Sox game was postponed, as was a Symphony Hall concert.

By 6pm Dzhokhar had not been found and an air of gloom began to envelop the area. ?We cannot continue to lock down an entire city or an entire state,? Patrick admitted. Ed Davis, the Boston police commissioner, conceded that ?we don't know where he went?.



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