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GAH · 04-23-2013, 08:30 AM

British businessman James McCormick has been convicted of three counts of fraud over the sale of bogus bomb detectors. His main market was Iraq, where lives depended on bomb detection and where the bogus devices were, and still are, used at virtually every checkpoint in the capital. He imported golf ball detectors for $15 from America, and then much later ordered his own similar upgraded devices. They did not work, they only ever did detect golf balls but made him a multi-millionaire. It has taken two years to come to court and sentencing. A few years in prison is all he gets!!! Wouldn't instantly being made a bomb disposal expert, sent out to work in Afghanistan with those devices for the same time period be more fitting?

Rochard · 04-23-2013, 09:12 AM

Ten years in prison seems fair. He needs to be intimate with the concept of being afraid in the shower.

Sly · 04-23-2013, 09:20 AM

I would think this is borderline treason. Knowingly, and purposely, selling a product that would lead to deaths of his own countrymen during time of war.

The wrong buyer would have beheaded him, no problem.

AllAboutCams · 04-23-2013, 09:26 AM

Why did they buy so many if they did not work

crockett · 04-23-2013, 09:40 AM

I've read about this before and I think the guy deserves to get a life sentence. It might sound harsh, but the guy committed fraud with something that could or probably has caused loss of life.

A 20 year sentence is the very least he should receive.. I'm tired of seeing the average person getting ridiculous sentences while guys like this essentially get slaps on the wrist because he has a lot of money.

L-Pink · 04-23-2013, 09:57 AM

Did anyone die from his scam? If so I would think he would be accountable.

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GAH · 04-23-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Did anyone die from his scam? If so I would think he would be accountable.

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Judging by the amount of bombs going off in Iraq, I reckon many deaths can be accredited to this scam. The sad thing is they still us them. How stupid the UN is for never doing any testing, but purchasing many.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22267468

candyflip · 04-23-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I would think this is borderline treason. Knowingly, and purposely, selling a product that would lead to deaths of his own countrymen during time of war.

The wrong buyer would have beheaded him, no problem.

From what I remember of the original story, he was selling them to the Iraqi military and police forces. They were buying them even though they were advised against it, because it was known that they were bogus.

So not sure Treason would factor in here.

_Richard_ · 04-23-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GAH

Judging by the amount of bombs going off in Iraq, I reckon many deaths can be accredited to this scam. The sad thing is they still us them. How stupid the UN is for never doing any testing, but purchasing many.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22267468

stupid? why ruin a good thing

newB · 04-23-2013, 12:17 PM

Drop him in the middle of a mine field, give him one of his detectors, and tell him he is free to go.

pimpmaster9000 · 04-23-2013, 12:17 PM

his machine is just as phoney as the rebuilding of iraq...I do not see a problem...

beerptrol · 04-23-2013, 12:32 PM

give him a bogus mine detector and set him in a mine field

pornmasta · 04-23-2013, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GAH

British businessman James McCormick has been convicted of three counts of fraud over the sale of bogus bomb detectors. His main market was Iraq, where lives depended on bomb detection and where the bogus devices were, and still are, used at virtually every checkpoint in the capital. He imported golf ball detectors for $15 from America, and then much later ordered his own similar upgraded devices. They did not work, they only ever did detect golf balls but made him a multi-millionaire. It has taken two years to come to court and sentencing. A few years in prison is all he gets!!! Wouldn't instantly being made a bomb disposal expert, sent out to work in Afghanistan with those devices for the same time period be more fitting?

hands cut off and stoned

TheFootMan5 · 04-23-2013, 01:31 PM

What's a fair punishment for George Bush, responsible for over a million murders?

Arnox · 04-23-2013, 02:26 PM

The issue here is that there are a lot of things sold that are flat-out scams. I don't think it should make a difference if the product is life threatening or not; there should be measures in place to make sure that governments aren't buying a stupid piece of equipment that doesn't work.

Governments should be able to get their money back via a legal framework, but selling a product that doesn't do the job it claims to do shouldn't be something that ends up with you in jail. It's a slippery slope - what's next? Homeopathy? Tarot card readings? Dick pills? Snake oil? Acupuncture?

All of these things claim to do things that there's no scientific evidence for; why aren't salesman of these products also be prosecuted?

RubyGoodnight · 04-23-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Did anyone die from his scam? If so I would think he would be accountable.

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They interviewed a woman on BBC today that was at a checkpoint when a bomb went off. This checkpoint used those fake devices. She was burned all over, her face completely scarred, and she lost the baby she was pregnant with. (Her husband also left her as he couldn't care for her while recovering.)

ludballs · 04-23-2013, 02:59 PM

10 years seems lenient alright. Double at least!

mineistaken · 04-23-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnox

The issue here is that there are a lot of things sold that are flat-out scams. I don't think it should make a difference if the product is life threatening or not;

Really? No difference between if someone sells fake bomb detectors and someone sells placebo tablets claiming its vitamin C?

Rochard · 04-23-2013, 03:32 PM

I'd like to change my post.... To twenty years.

Twenty years of hardcore ass fucking in the shower three or four times daily is good for him. Will build some character too.

Arnox · 04-23-2013, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Really? No difference between if someone sells fake bomb detectors and someone sells placebo tablets claiming its vitamin C?

If harm is caused by the product, there should be systems in place to deal with civil cases that would potentially lead to product lines having to be destroyed. Currently, there isn't any evidence to support the hypothesis that damage has been caused by this scam. If there was, then criminal proceedings might be in order. Currently though, yes, I see no difference between this and selling placebo tablets.

MrMaxwell · 04-23-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by newB

Drop him in the middle of a mine field, give him one of his detectors, and tell him he is free to go.

Exactly what I was thinking.

pornmasta · 04-23-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Really? No difference between if someone sells fake bomb detectors and someone sells placebo tablets claiming its vitamin C?

In fact, it is function of the customer...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scurvy#Prognosis

AnimeFevers · 04-23-2013, 09:21 PM

If he knew they were faulty then I'd say life, if he didn't know which seems unlikely since its his product I'd still say a long fucking time. Tbh with you if people have died from bombs going off because the detector wasn't sensing anything then he he should be put on the chair.

GregE · 04-23-2013, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by newB

Drop him in the middle of a mine field, give him one of his detectors, and tell him he is free to go.

Sounds fair to me.

epitome · 04-23-2013, 10:32 PM

My question is all of these countries bought these things and nobody tested them?

04-23-2013, 08:30 AM	#1
GAH Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 88	What's a just punishment for this guy? British businessman James McCormick has been convicted of three counts of fraud over the sale of bogus bomb detectors. His main market was Iraq, where lives depended on bomb detection and where the bogus devices were, and still are, used at virtually every checkpoint in the capital. He imported golf ball detectors for $15 from America, and then much later ordered his own similar upgraded devices. They did not work, they only ever did detect golf balls but made him a multi-millionaire. It has taken two years to come to court and sentencing. A few years in prison is all he gets!!! Wouldn't instantly being made a bomb disposal expert, sent out to work in Afghanistan with those devices for the same time period be more fitting? Last edited by GAH; 04-23-2013 at 08:32 AM.. Reason: mis-spelling

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Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 73,383	Ten years in prison seems fair. He needs to be intimate with the concept of being afraid in the shower. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	I've read about this before and I think the guy deserves to get a life sentence. It might sound harsh, but the guy committed fraud with something that could or probably has caused loss of life. A 20 year sentence is the very least he should receive.. I'm tired of seeing the average person getting ridiculous sentences while guys like this essentially get slaps on the wrist because he has a lot of money.

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L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	Did anyone die from his scam? If so I would think he would be accountable. .

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Arnox Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Radelaide Posts: 2,160	The issue here is that there are a lot of things sold that are flat-out scams. I don't think it should make a difference if the product is life threatening or not; there should be measures in place to make sure that governments aren't buying a stupid piece of equipment that doesn't work. Governments should be able to get their money back via a legal framework, but selling a product that doesn't do the job it claims to do shouldn't be something that ends up with you in jail. It's a slippery slope - what's next? Homeopathy? Tarot card readings? Dick pills? Snake oil? Acupuncture? All of these things claim to do things that there's no scientific evidence for; why aren't salesman of these products also be prosecuted?

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Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 73,383	I'd like to change my post.... To twenty years. Twenty years of hardcore ass fucking in the shower three or four times daily is good for him. Will build some character too. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	My question is all of these countries bought these things and nobody tested them?