seoxpertz

No matter what... Julian Assange will always be considered a true hero. The world really need more people like him.

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answers to any more question re: the validity of the thread can be found here::

Media perception

In a study published in 2005,[121] a group of researchers assessed the effects reports and retractions in the media had on people?s memory regarding the search for WMD in Iraq during the 2003 Iraq War. The study focused on populations in two coalition countries (Australia and USA) and one opposed to the war (Germany). Results showed that US citizens generally did not correct initial misconceptions regarding WMD, even following disconfirmation; Australian and German citizens were more responsive to retractions. Dependence on the initial source of information led to a substantial minority of Americans exhibiting false memory that WMD were indeed discovered, while they were not. This led to three conclusions:
The repetition of tentative news stories, even if they are subsequently disconfirmed, can assist in the creation of false memories in a substantial proportion of people.
Once information is published, its subsequent correction does not alter people's beliefs unless they are suspicious about the motives underlying the events the news stories are about.
When people ignore corrections, they do so irrespective of how certain they are that the corrections occurred.
A poll conducted between June and September 2003 asked people whether they thought evidence of WMD had been discovered in Iraq since the war ended. They were also asked which media sources they relied upon. Those who obtained their news primarily from Fox News were three times as likely to believe that evidence of WMD had been discovered in Iraq than those who relied on PBS and NPR for their news, and one third more likely than those who primarily watched CBS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_an... ons_Recovered

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Not in my eyes...sport.

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Why is that?

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funny shit isn't it. 6:40

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Rochard

And your point is?

We helped the Brits and other countries have nuclear bombs, but if they start dropping them on their own citizens that's another matter entirely.

This is not true really. The US did not "give him permission" to attack a foreign country. The US was aware of troop movements near the Kuwait border, but not their intentions. The US had no reason to believe they were about to invade the country and rape it's citizens.

Yep. We sure did. And it was brutal. I mean, it was embarrassing for Iraq and it's military.

This is not true and there is no double standard here. Countries have the legal right to bring their ships - and planes - within a certain distance of another country. This happens on a daily basis - For example, Russian ships docking in Cuba. Not a thing we can do about it. Not a thing anyone can do about this at all. No double standard; We do it to other countries and they do it to us.

I'm not sure what you mean here... During the 1980s we helped Afghanistan beat back the Russians and then.... They allowed 9/11 to happen? We helped them and then they turned around and fucked us in the ass?

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pimpmaster9000

well you share responsibility for what happened...you willfully gave him WMD to fight your battles...


yes you did:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Kuwait

On 25 July 1990, the U.S. Ambassador in Iraq, April Glaspie, asked the Iraqi high command to explain the military preparations in progress, including the massing of Iraqi troops near the border.
The American ambassador declared to her Iraqi interlocutor that Washington, ?inspired by the friendship and not by confrontation, does not have an opinion? on the disagreement between Kuwait and Iraq, stating "we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts."
She also let Saddam Hussein know that the U.S. did not intend "to start an economic war against Iraq". These statements may have caused Saddam to believe he had received a diplomatic green light from the United States to invade Kuwait.


and you knew...you have been supporting him invade for over a decade then...you saw him pile 100.000-s of troops and heard him threaten and your answer was:
"we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts."
She also let Saddam Hussein know that the U.S. did not intend "to start an economic war against Iraq".

can you see the green light before the backstabbing?



yup you and kuwait supported your best boy saddam to fight your fight, then when it was over you basically shafted him...a good lesson to all your future allies about what they can expect from you...good move


o come on LOL...so russians come as close as CUBA !!!! how tolerant of you come on man you fucking sanctioned cuba for decades over the same fucking thing you are doing to north korea...you impoverished an entire country because the russians wanted to (quote Rochard):

"Countries have the legal right to bring their ships - and planes - within a certain distance of another country. "

come on man...fess up eh? theres a huge double standard...



yes you made him do an "avghanistan" right in his back yard and then you turned your back on your financially worn out ally...dude you were allies its not like he picked the #1 military in the world as his enemy for nothing LOL

you fucked him over and you know it...now you control all the oil...sure its a coincidence

pimpmaster9000

would it matter to you if an alquaida guy dropped a bomb or came down in a parachute and started whacking people left and right? nope...its the same thing...murdering civilians...

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Rochard

You read that as the US giving a green light to Iraq to invade another country, an ally of ours. I see this as the US Ambassador saying "We don't have an opinion [at this time]". Once the invasion took place, Kuwait was quickly over run, and the world saw what happened there, the US was sure to get involved.

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pimpmaster9000

"we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts."
"the U.S. did not intend "to start an economic war against Iraq".


oh I see...huge red light to attack kuwait above...yes how could saddam have taken it any other way??? "we have no opinion" obviously means DO NOT ATTACK! ...we have no intention of starting a war with iraq= we have intention...

i see now...

you divided and conquered...you gave him the green light...then you put kuwait in your pocket and saddam at your mercy...nice...saudi was afraid of saddam because you gave him power, from then on you control saudi too...nice...now you control all the oil...

no wonder saddam was so pissed off at you LOL

theking

The U.S. did not give power to Saddam...period. Iraq was never an ally to the U.S.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_... 80%93Iraq_war

quote:

"United States support for Iraq during the Iran?Iraq War, against post-revolutionary Iran, included several billion dollars worth of economic aid, the sale of dual-use technology, non-U.S. origin weaponry, military intelligence, Special Operations training, and direct involvement in warfare against Iran.[3][4]
Support from the U.S. for Iraq was not a secret and was frequently discussed in open session of the Senate and House of Representatives. On June 9, 1992, Ted Koppel reported on ABC's Nightline, "It is becoming increasingly clear that George Bush, operating largely behind the scenes throughout the 1980s, initiated and supported much of the financing, intelligence, and military help that built Saddam's Iraq into the power it became",[5] and "Reagan/Bush administrations permitted?and frequently encouraged?the flow of money, agricultural credits, dual-use technology, chemicals, and weapons to Iraq."[6]

theking

I am completely aware of what we did or did not do regarding Iraq...and no we did not put Saddam in power...and no Iraq was never an Ally of the U.S. As far as assisting Iraq during their war with Iran we did assist...and we also assisted Iran because we did not want either side to win. The U.S. assists many countries every year that are not an ally of the U.S. End of story.

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pimpmaster9000

heres some pigshit then:




"The coup that brought the Ba'ath Party to power in 1963 was celebrated by the United States.

The CIA had a hand in it. They had funded the Ba'ath Party - of which Saddam Hussein was a young member - when it was in opposition.

US diplomat James Akins served in the Baghdad Embassy at the time. Mr. Akins said, "I knew all the Ba'ath Party leaders and I liked them".

"The CIA were definitely involved in that coup. We saw the rise of the Ba'athists as a way of replacing a pro-Soviet government with a pro-American one and you don't get that chance very often.

theking

Sport...there is not anything that you can tell me about Iraq or the U.S. relationship with Iraq that I do not know...not a single thing.

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J.R.

Of course it did, they said so

pimpmaster9000

the CIA just lets things happen and does not control events to their own advantage?

you control all the oil in the region just by chance?

good old USA does not resort to underhand strategies?

5% of the world population enforces petrodollar?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_warfare

you have called your own government corrupt 100x for domestic affairs, yet, somehow, they are honest players abroad and ALL the 3rd world shit hole leaders hate you for no reason?

this is a huge leap of faith...huge...