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Old 02-24-2003, 10:27 AM   #1
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What sponsors never tell you

I just wanted to make a new site quick and get on with other stuff on my desktop. Sure. I picked up some paysite of which tour I liked and decided I'll promote it.

Let's see do they have any free material to go with their site. Nope. None.

Okay let's go buy some. It was a site promoting black teens. Sure, what's easier than finding some cute black teens content to buy.

I started opening my favorite providers only to find 90% of chicks listed under teens are white. The other 10% that is black is either ugly, fat, not looking teens or overpriced with way too big sets to use on a small 40- pics free site.

Still in good mood I went on trying to find more providers offering black teens. Sure I found them. Offering just black women. But not black teens. All the shit in there either didn't look teen, was fat, ugly or overpriced and too big sets.

1 hour and a half already passed and I was still trying to find 1 damn set of black teens for my poor new free site.

I have started to lose my patience. Now I was raging. I was about to ditch this stupid paysite/sponsor and let other lucky cocksucers promote it, having more luck than me, trying to find black teen content.

What about you and your paysite? Do you have any content to offer for your webmasters or do you prefer hiding it?

Sponsors tell you all the BS about how to make a buck, but when it comes to content they fail. Talking about those who don't have any unique free content to offer and about those who offer the same overused shit, no one wants to list, over and over again.

What about telling your precious webmasters where to get specific content for a specific paysite?

You know all about telling webmasters what's wrong with their sites, but never anyone mentioned anything about content.

Every content provider bitches about content theft. Gee I wonder why is that so. No one ever talks about content anywhere. You can see people/sponsors talking/giving advices about hosting, link sites, linking, marketing of any sort you can think of, but rarely anything is ever said about content.

Why? Why do sponsors leave you in the dark when it comes to content info for promoting their own paysites?

I guess it's a marketing homework that sponsors fail to do, thinking that we'll manage it ourselves.

Well this totally depends on luck. Remember how lucky I was today trying to find a dumb black teen content suitable for my free site? A pain, really.

If you are a sponsor, how difficult you make it for your webmasters to get/find suitable content for promoting your paysites with their galleries/free/avs sites?
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Old 02-24-2003, 10:43 AM   #2
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Did you think of sending the sponsor an email, asking where to get appropriate content?

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Originally posted by McSpike

If you are a sponsor, how difficult you make it for your webmasters to get/find suitable content for promoting your paysites with their galleries/free/avs sites?
I have anywhere from 5-10 affiliates asking me daily if we have free content. At first we did, so I gave it to them. It got burnt out in 2 weeks. More webmasters crawling back asking for more content that nobody else has used up. After handling this daily for a couple weeks, we decided we're not handling free content anymore. Although, we do have hosted galleries.

Every webmaster wants free content. There's only so much exclusive content to go around before it gets burned up. A sponsors job is not to provide webmasters every tool in the book to do your job. We try, but we can't do it. A sponsors job is to create sites that sell, to make YOU money, so that you can turn around and buy traffic/content/sites/whatever. Sponsors are NOT content providers.

End of rant...
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Old 02-24-2003, 10:46 AM   #3
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fishing for content can be a major pain in the ass. you find a content producer and you see the categories and you're like woo, found it. then the sets aren't what you want for a variety of reasons.


then when you find content, buy it and places say its overused content.
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Old 02-24-2003, 10:46 AM   #4
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I'm not really a webmaster... I sign up for affiliate programs to get free porn to wack off too.
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Old 02-24-2003, 11:21 AM   #5
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It isn't too hard to find a program that has free content that isn't used up yet. 100% of the affiliate programs in my sig have plenty. ;)
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Old 02-24-2003, 11:25 AM   #6
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McSpike is totally right about the ethnic content. I wouldn't even know how to promote a black or latina site since 99% of the ethnic content features ugly crack whores and overweight broads. Why is that?
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Old 02-24-2003, 11:27 AM   #7
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McSpike is totally right about the ethnic content. I wouldn't even know how to promote a black or latina site since 99% of the ethnic content features ugly crack whores and overweight broads. Why is that?
God is racist.
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Old 02-24-2003, 11:29 AM   #8
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Dude here's a little tip I learnt some time ago when building galleries

Use ugly chicks for your pics and hot ass chicks on your banners
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Old 02-24-2003, 11:34 AM   #9
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Sponsors want to be pushed hard. It would be good if every affiliate sent 10k clicks per day. Not every affiliate can push that kind of traffic from sites without any content. In fact, not many webmasters in general can send that many clicks, from sites without content. Yet so many niche sponsors fail to provide content for their webmasters, and if they do, they don't provide enough. 10 zips of 12 images won't cut it for the majority of webmasters. Build a full network of sites with 120 images? Hahaha... maybe your idea of a network is smaller than mine. As much as some webmasters dislike thumbnail posts, movie posts, etc, if a niche sponsor (tranny, anal, big cock and such) wants to be pushed HARD whilst receiving traffic from those sources, then they're going to have to put out on the content front - a la Nasty Dollars & Ox Cash, and especially because that kind of content isn't so common. (Remember sponsors, we're not exactly promoting Gauge and Aria here.) Ox & Nasty are overpromoted as overpromoted can be, yet making tons of cash for their owners. Putting out so much content is not the only way, but it's a damn GOOD way.
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Old 02-24-2003, 11:36 AM   #10
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Dude here's a little tip I learnt some time ago when building galleries

Use ugly chicks for your pics and hot ass chicks on your banners
then you don't get listed and you end up with half the traffic and less sales
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Old 02-24-2003, 12:48 PM   #11
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I have anywhere from 5-10 affiliates asking me daily if we have free content. At first we did, so I gave it to them. It got burnt out in 2 weeks. More webmasters crawling back asking for more content that nobody else has used up. After handling this daily for a couple weeks, we decided we're not handling free content anymore.
No, no! I am not talking about free content. Free content is good tho and it's completely normal that you "run out" of it. THAT'S why I was talking about letting us know where to BUY more. Not where to get more free but where to get more for MONEY. Sponsors that can provide that info are making just one more step ahead of their competition and competition is big today. What does your sponsor program have that others don't? What do you (not you, Sly_RJ, but every sponsor) have that makes you different from the crowd and makes you worth checking out and worth making business with?

It would cost you a lot less to just tell us where to buy stuff that will match your tours rather than us trying to dig it out ourselves. Sure we can do it ourselves, BUT in case you have some niche or sub-niche paysite we are gonna have a hell of a hard time getting it and will just move on to some other paysite/sponsor.

I will make 1 last shot trying to find content for that black teen paysite I mentioned, on this board, asking content providers to spam me with it. If they fail to provide, I'll skip promoting that paysite. Simple as that.

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fishing for content can be a major pain in the ass. you find a content producer and you see the categories and you're like woo, found it. then the sets aren't what you want for a variety of reasons.


then when you find content, buy it and places say its overused content.
Exactly. Ain't that a beauty. That's why I like content resellers because that's a content mall. Still many fail to provide good content filters or search tools that would make your search through their store easier. But that's another topic alltogether.


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Originally posted by MonkeyMan
I'm not really a webmaster... I sign up for affiliate programs to get free porn to wack off too.
See, people like this pervert are another reason for giving use the info where to get content for MONEY.


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Originally posted by ldinternet
Yet so many niche sponsors fail to provide content for their webmasters, and if they do, they don't provide enough. 10 zips of 12 images won't cut it for the majority of webmasters. Build a full network of sites with 120 images? Hahaha...
Ain't that the truth. "Let's throw these newbies a bone so we can write in our portfolio that we offer free content."

Still, providing us with info about where we can get shit that will match your tours would do more for us than free content which gets overused in weeks and no one lists it anyway.
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