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BFT3K · 05-15-2013, 09:08 AM

From the article...

The Alcubierre warp drive is still theoretical for now. "The truth is that the best ideas sound crazy at first. And then there comes a time when we can't imagine a world without them." That's a statement from the 100 Year Starship organization, a think tank devoted to making Earth what "Star Trek" would call a "warp-capable civilization" within a century.

STORY HERE

Best-In-BC · 05-15-2013, 09:25 AM

We must venture out before we kill our planet.

_Richard_ · 05-15-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

From the article...

The Alcubierre warp drive is still theoretical for now. "The truth is that the best ideas sound crazy at first. And then there comes a time when we can't imagine a world without them." That's a statement from the 100 Year Starship organization, a think tank devoted to making Earth what "Star Trek" would call a "warp-capable civilization" within a century.

STORY HERE

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Alcubierre used this knowledge to exploit a loophole in the "universal speed limit." In his theory, the ship never goes faster than the speed of light ? instead, space in front of the ship is contracted while space behind it is expanded, allowing the ship to travel distances in less time than light would take.

this is an arthur c clarke story/idea:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_(short_story)

it's basically a middle finger to the MIC

pimpmaster9000 · 05-15-2013, 10:02 AM

still costs too much to launch in to space warp drive or not...a single kilo of anything costs like 20.000$ to get in to space...including compressed air...the cosmos is filled with tiny debris...hit it with any speed and you are pretty much fucked...for star trek shit we need to invent shields first

even then you would have to say goodbye to everybody you know because 1 min of warp drive is 100 years on earth for example...and all this just to go somewhere where theres a 99.99999999999% chance you will find rocks and shit...

even if there was gold on the moon it would simply cost too much to bring it back to earth, because you would need to set up a base and extraction facility and this is commercially simply not viable...

maybe a small drone could be made just for explorations sake...but then theres the paradox that we would have to wait 100-s of years for a few minutes to pass...then 1000-s of years for the information to actually come back to us...

its just a huge waste of money...

_Richard_ · 05-15-2013, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

still costs too much to launch in to space warp drive or not...a single kilo of anything costs like 20.000$ to get in to space...including compressed air...the cosmos is filled with tiny debris...hit it with any speed and you are pretty much fucked...for star trek shit we need to invent shields first

even then you would have to say goodbye to everybody you know because 1 min of warp drive is 100 years on earth for example...and all this just to go somewhere where theres a 99.99999999999% chance you will find rocks and shit...

even if there was gold on the moon it would simply cost too much to bring it back to earth, because you would need to set up a base and extraction facility and this is commercially simply not viable...

maybe a small drone could be made just for explorations sake...but then theres the paradox that we would have to wait 100-s of years for a few minutes to pass...then 1000-s of years for the information to actually come back to us...

its just a huge waste of money...

really simple away around that, and the research is all there

problem, i believe, is van allen belt.. lots of money going into how to protect computer systems etc

pimpmaster9000 · 05-15-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

really simple away around that, and the research is all there

problem, i believe, is van allen belt.. lots of money going into how to protect computer systems etc

how would we not wait for the drone 1000 years if it approached warp? what is the way around? very curious....

CDSmith · 05-15-2013, 10:27 AM

They're putting the cart before the proverbial horse. First we have to invent the food replicator, which will negate the need for a currency-based system. Once we get rid of concepts like 'money', 'cost' etc we can start putting efforts into exploring space, the lure of the final frontier being the motivator rather than billions and billions of "dollars", whatever those were. Then we can go find and meet whoever's out there.

Personally I can't wait. Got my Vulcan "live long and prosper" hand salute down to a science.

_Richard_ · 05-15-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

how would we not wait for the drone 1000 years if it approached warp? what is the way around? very curious....

well the original statement you made is the issue on how to rocket off resources from the planet..

Most of that is based on the idea that these resources will be coming from the planet, when you're probably going to start seeing us mining asteroids etc that are in the area, and working off a base on the moon (why finding water on it was so important)

If you needed to build something that would pull resources off the planet cheaply (building stations/moon bases/etc), you'd build an 'elevator':

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator

pimpmaster9000 · 05-15-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

They're putting the cart before the proverbial horse. First we have to invent the food replicator, which will negate the need for a currency-based system. Once we get rid of concepts like 'money', 'cost' etc we can start putting efforts into exploring space, the lure of the final frontier being the motivator rather than billions and billions of "dollars", whatever those were. Then we can go find and meet whoever's out there.

Personally I can't wait. Got my Vulcan "live long and prosper" hand salute down to a science.

productivity will stop if there is no incentive to work...in communist countries people did not really have to work...look how that ended...

humans are inherently lazy...2000 year old scrolls say the same thing as today:

"todays youth is lazy and unmotivated and likes women and beer and does not like to work" (true story)

CDSmith · 05-15-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

productivity will stop if there is no incentive to work...in communist countries people did not really have to work...look how that ended...

humans are inherently lazy...2000 year old scrolls say the same thing as today:

"todays youth is lazy and unmotivated and likes women and beer and does not like to work" (true story)

Spoken like someone who's never seen a Star Trek episode in his life.

BFT3K · 05-15-2013, 10:41 AM

I believe the Zeitgeist Movement is a quest for a more sensible human reality, and a more Star-Trek-Style future...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=k3Ya5qiiW6k

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JESwWE1GkYw

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IqU-5gL25XQ

seeandsee · 05-15-2013, 10:54 AM

they will not travel at any speed, because NUKEs will end shit on this planet one day

crockett · 05-15-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Spoken like someone who's never seen a Star Trek episode in his life.

Yea and just look what always happened to the guys in the red shirts...

_Richard_ · 05-15-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

they will not travel at any speed, because NUKEs will end shit on this planet one day

as in.. a holocaust.. or the Project Orion idea?

pornguy · 05-15-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

We must venture out before we kill our planet.

yes.

Nothing more important than killing other planets at the same time.

We need to learn to save this one first.

Grapesoda · 05-15-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

We must venture out before we kill our planet.

exactly... we need to get the fuck out there and kill other planets!!!

dyna mo · 05-15-2013, 02:31 PM

killing, the one motivator that gets humans off our asses!

Rochard · 05-15-2013, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

They're putting the cart before the proverbial horse. First we have to invent the food replicator, which will negate the need for a currency-based system. Once we get rid of concepts like 'money', 'cost' etc we can start putting efforts into exploring space, the lure of the final frontier being the motivator rather than billions and billions of "dollars", whatever those were. Then we can go find and meet whoever's out there.

Personally I can't wait. Got my Vulcan "live long and prosper" hand salute down to a science.

You know... If you ever give it thought... Could we ever live without the concept of money? I mean... Great, you got a food replicator, but who is gonna fix it when it breaks?

Do the crew of the USS Enterprise get paid a salary? I don't recall it ever being discussed in Star Trek.

mikesinner · 05-15-2013, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

You know... If you ever give it thought... Could we ever live without the concept of money? I mean... Great, you got a food replicator, but who is gonna fix it when it breaks?

Do the crew of the USS Enterprise get paid a salary? I don't recall it ever being discussed in Star Trek.

In the Star Trek universe money doesn't exist for humans. Humanity only cares about improving itself. It's very much a fantasy world and goes against basic human instincts,

2013 · 05-15-2013, 09:09 PM

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