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Old 06-08-2013, 06:09 AM   #1
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OMG ROFL just received terms of service email

Holy shit, wtf, OMG and rofl.

I just received an email from a sponsor (which right now I won't name here) stating it is AGAINST their Terms of Service to rel="nofollow" affiliate links.

They're demanding ALL links must be dofollow within 5 days or I'm kicked out of their program.

Wtf, did anyone else receive this?

This industry is getting fucking ridiculous!
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:18 AM   #2
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:23 AM   #3
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Do they say why?
no fucking reason...I told them to get fucked
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:23 AM   #4
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No, which program?
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:27 AM   #5
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There is some rep somewhere thinking 'This job would be great if it wasn't for the affiliates - I know I will make up some BS'....
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:29 AM   #6
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Holy shit, wtf, OMG and rofl.

I just received an email from a sponsor (which right now I won't name here) stating it is AGAINST their Terms of Service to rel="nofollow" affiliate links.

They're demanding ALL links must be dofollow within 5 days or I'm kicked out of their program.

Wtf, did anyone else receive this?

This industry is getting fucking ridiculous!
Dude, name the program. If they emailed you, do you think they're trying to keep it secret? They want affiliates to know.
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:35 AM   #7
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Soon they will demand links with only specific keyword "porn" or "free porn"
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i responded to their request and i wanna see how this plays out before i drag this public. but i basically told them to get fucked
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:36 AM   #9
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Soon they will demand links with only specific keyword "porn" or "free porn"
ya no shit.

nothing shocks me anymore. fuck porn
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:53 AM   #10
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name the program
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i would use special linkbuilding software on their site for free.
it will surely help them to gain some linkjuice.
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Tell them they can pay a flat monthly fee to make it dofollow. Every affiliate ought to be making sure to make all sponsor links nofollow. Not only for Google but so that you aren't giving the sponsors something for free.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:52 AM   #13
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Tell them they can pay a flat monthly fee to make it dofollow. Every affiliate ought to be making sure to make all sponsor links nofollow. Not only for Google but so that you aren't giving the sponsors something for free.
That's what I was thinking
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Tell them they can pay a flat monthly fee to make it dofollow. Every affiliate ought to be making sure to make all sponsor links nofollow. Not only for Google but so that you aren't giving the sponsors something for free.
This. I've actually done this before when I was a rep either by increasing their payout % or a flat fee.


I would drop their links and start promoting their main competitor right away.
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I'd like to know, too. That doesn't sound right and I'd rather not promote them..
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sounds like they might also be the "feel entitled" types that wouldn't see anything wrong with shaving the fuck out of their affiliates too
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dropping in to ask rookie question. why would an affiliate want to set pages to nofollow on search engines? if you put up a blog or FHG with your link code, wouldnt getting the content onto google rankings be a good thing?

thanks in advance. i just want to better understand the needs of affiliates...
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dropping in to ask rookie question. why would an affiliate want to set pages to nofollow on search engines? if you put up a blog or FHG with your link code, wouldnt getting the content onto google rankings be a good thing?

thanks in advance. i just want to better understand the needs of affiliates...
Not if the program uses cookies, so the affiliate ID drops from the site URLs, such as the majority of CCBill programs.

Nor programs that make liberal use of canonical links and/or robots files to prevent indexing of site pages containing affiliate IDs, such as PimpRoll.

In such cases, I always encourage using nofollow rel attributes with the site links, since you really have nothing to gain otherwise. However, in most cases this is limited to just the sites and usually not the galleries - though a couple of programs make use of this indexing chicanery on their galleries as well. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the program to which the OP is referring is one of the latter.
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^^^ it is nofollow on outgoing pages

So who is it? Nobody yet has said they received same email.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:39 PM   #26
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Must be a small one...
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dropping in to ask rookie question. why would an affiliate want to set pages to nofollow on search engines? if you put up a blog or FHG with your link code, wouldnt getting the content onto google rankings be a good thing?

thanks in advance. i just want to better understand the needs of affiliates...
I think you mix noindex with nofollow.Sites with nofollow links will rank but dont pass seojuice/linkjuice to the outgoing links (eg wikipedia)
Noindex,you can add in your robots.txt and block search engines to index a site/directory/page
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this threads useless without the sponsor
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Not if the program uses cookies, so the affiliate ID drops from the site URLs, such as the majority of CCBill programs.

Nor programs that make liberal use of canonical links and/or robots files to prevent indexing of site pages containing affiliate IDs, such as PimpRoll.

In such cases, I always encourage using nofollow rel attributes with the site links, since you really have nothing to gain otherwise. However, in most cases this is limited to just the sites and usually not the galleries - though a couple of programs make use of this indexing chicanery on their galleries as well. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the program to which the OP is referring is one of the latter.
hello. thank you for taking the time to answer. appreciated. -Josh
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Affiliate links are not of much SEO value to a Sponsor's domain today.

We wouldn't even consider a link indexing demand.

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dropping in to ask rookie question. why would an affiliate want to set pages to nofollow on search engines? if you put up a blog or FHG with your link code, wouldnt getting the content onto google rankings be a good thing?

thanks in advance. i just want to better understand the needs of affiliates...
It's highly unlikely in 2013 that an affiliate will get a linkcode indexed at the top of the Google results. It can still happen but it's very rare. What is much more likely is that the affiliate will get penalized by Google Panda or Penguin for having many dofollow sponsor links. It's possible the sponsor could get penalized for it too. I know of the opposite case outside of the industry where a sponsor was demanding that affiliates make the links nofollow because they were afraid of penalties.
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If you want to get sneaky on them without telling them to go fuck themselves you might also start using jumpscripts which are in a special directory. Then put that directory in robots.txt. It has almost the same effect. The Googlebot won't visit the jumpscript and will never see the sponsors link. All it will see is a link to a internal page on your site which it cannot index due to robots.txt restrictions.

Technically the link would still be dofollow.
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It seems pretty clear to me that if someone is this fucking stupid, you shouldn't be financing their business with your traffic and joins and be expecting to get paid anyway.

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It's highly unlikely in 2013 that an affiliate will get a linkcode indexed at the top of the Google results. It can still happen but it's very rare. What is much more likely is that the affiliate will get penalized by Google Panda or Penguin for having many dofollow sponsor links. It's possible the sponsor could get penalized for it too. I know of the opposite case outside of the industry where a sponsor was demanding that affiliates make the links nofollow because they were afraid of penalties.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=naughty...=0-8&sp=-1&sk=

bing search, naughty allie
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dropping in to ask rookie question. why would an affiliate want to set pages to nofollow on search engines? if you put up a blog or FHG with your link code, wouldnt getting the content onto google rankings be a good thing?

thanks in advance. i just want to better understand the needs of affiliates...
nofollow prevents SEO juice from leaking to affiliate program URL

while you want to rank your own website, you don't give a shit about sponsor websites

so you use nofollow on sponsor links

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What program is not important.

I don't see what the problem is doing this as an affiliate.

Actually you should do it, right, because it is paid links?
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That's fucking crazy, what sponsor is it ?

Although im not surprised, I have seen things like this bullshit before, and very crazy requests from some shitty sponsors...
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That's fucking crazy, what sponsor is it ?

Although im not surprised, I have seen things like this bullshit before, and very crazy requests from some shitty sponsors...
free ones... um... shit... fuck that up in your shit
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free ones is raking in the cash... can't believe roald has not stopped it yet... he knew about it from xbiz board and I guess did nothing
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free ones has been raking in on the term "Naughty Allie" on bing.

Naughty Allie brought it up on xbiz and roald did nothing.

So now that girl has the pleasure of splitting every type in on bing/yahoo with freeones... yeah
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Naughty Allie brought it up on xbiz and roald did nothing.

So now that girl has the pleasure of splitting every type in on bing/yahoo with freeones... yeah
hmmm... the sponsor of Naughty Allie is Naughty B4nk?...

Can the OP confirm if that is the sponsor ?

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Naughty Allie brought it up on xbiz and roald did nothing.

So now that girl has the pleasure of splitting every type in on bing/yahoo with freeones... yeah
No one is raking in anything on Bing.

There's virtually no traffic there. Especially for some obscure term as Naughty Ally.
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There's virtually no traffic there. Especially for some obscure term as Naughty Ally.
Someone is doing ok. If I w as owner of operation I woud not stand for it. @
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hmmm... the sponsor of Naughty Allie is Naughty B4nk?...

Can the OP confirm if that is the sponsor ?
fuck off... I mean that... Grab your cock and just fuck off without saying anything... that is best
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:41 PM   #48
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How is Free Ones exactly raking in the cash?
They get it in revenue from pre-paid gallery placements on the top 15 spaces and banners. the rest of the galleries are free placements.
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:01 AM   #49
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fuck off... I mean that... Grab your cock and just fuck off without saying anything... that is best
You talking to me?

WTF is your problem? I don't know you, and you insult like that? WOW...

Take care everyone, this guy has mental issues, that's a FACT.

Another idiot added to ignore I guess.
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Old 06-11-2013, 02:04 AM   #50
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free ones has been raking in on the term "Naughty Allie" on bing.

Naughty Allie brought it up on xbiz and roald did nothing.

So now that girl has the pleasure of splitting every type in on bing/yahoo with freeones... yeah
I didn't do anything cause we don't do anything different with her name than we do with others. Like I said already on Xbiz, and which you leave out nicely here. We don't do anything wrong and we certainly do not do is on purpose so go complain to bing

I'm sure Jake prefers the top 10 to have all tube sites raking in on that term instead huh

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No one is raking in anything on Bing.

There's virtually no traffic there. Especially for some obscure term as Naughty Ally.
Correct, with all due respect to Ally we indeed don't see anything from this. Hence the reason we are not doing this on purpose, specially not in Bing for god sake.
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