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Grapesoda · 06-08-2013, 07:43 PM

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A heavy equipment operator with a lengthy rap sheet who is accused of being high on marijuana when a downtown building collapsed onto a thrift store, killing six people, surrendered Saturday to face charges in the deaths, police said.

Sean Benschop faces six counts of involuntary manslaughter, 13 counts of recklessly endangering another person and one count of risking a catastrophe. A warrant had been issued for his arrest and police had been searching for him.

Authorities believe the 42-year-old Benschop had been using an excavator Wednesday when the remains of the four-story building under demolition gave way and toppled onto an attached Salvation Army thrift store, killing two employees and four customers and injuring 13 others.

Deputy Mayor Everett Gillison said a toxicology report showed evidence that Benschop was high on marijuana. That finding, combined with witness statements and evidence from the scene, led to the decision Friday to raid his North Philadelphia home and later seek an arrest warrant, he said.

Benschop's attorney, Daine Grey, said his client was not at fault.

"This was an accident, but Mr. Benschop is not responsible," Grey said Saturday. "And we believe that, in time, the facts will show that he is not responsible."

Benschop was wearing a bandage on his right arm when he turned himself in. Grey said he had been injured at a worksite, but he declined to say where or when.

Grey said Benschop was able to operate heavy equipment.

"He was completely able to operate a backhoe," Grey said. " ... He operated it safely, as he always does, and he did not violate the law in any capacity.

"He has been doing this for more than 13 years. He is very experienced. He has worked for a number of contractors throughout the region. All of the contractors have found him professional and found that he did his work with the highest regard for the safety of those around him."

Mayor Michael Nutter, in a statement Saturday night, called for harsh charges and punishment for Benschop.

"It is my hope that the harshest level of charges are brought against Sean Benschop and he is punished accordingly," Nutter said. "We must also seek answers from property owners Richard Basciano and Griffin T. Campbell who hired Benschop to do the significant job of operating heavy equipment. These three individuals bear the ultimate and sole responsibility for this tragedy. Justice will only be served if Sean Benschop receives a sentence that buries him in a jailhouse forever, just like his victims were buried on Wednesday."

Benschop, who also goes by the name Kary Roberts, has been arrested at least 11 times since 1994 on charges ranging from drugs to theft to weapons possession, according to court records. He was twice sentenced to prison in the 1990s after being convicted on drug trafficking charges. Benschop's last arrest, on a charge of aggravated assault, came in January 2012, but the case was dismissed for lack of evidence.

As the criminal investigation heated up, at least two survivors sued the demolition contractor and building owner, alleging gross recklessness at the job site.

The city, meanwhile, promised to crack down on the demolition industry.

"We can do much better," Nutter said at a news conference Friday. "We will not accept the status quo in the face of this tragedy."

Nutter's reform plan for construction sites includes random drug testing on heavy equipment operators.

"If that's a factor here, that certainly takes things in a very different direction," he said hours before the charges against Benschop were confirmed.

The mayor also pledged to adopt tougher background requirements for demolition contractors, including information about each worker's experience, and more frequent site inspections when demolitions are underway.

His plan could run into resistance from builders who say they're already highly regulated.

"I think that before we do anything, before we rush to any judgment about how to fix what happened, we have to have all the facts," said Steven Lakin, executive managing director of the General Building Contractors Association, a trade group representing Philadelphia-area contractors. "Everybody wants to regulate demolition contractors, but I'm not so sure that's the answer."

Lawyers for the two survivors who have sued accuse demolition contractor Griffin Campbell _ who has a criminal background and has filed for bankruptcy twice _ of violating federal safety regulations. They say building owner Richard Basciano should have picked a more qualified and competent contractor to do the work.

No one answered the phone at a listing for Campbell on Saturday, and the voice mailbox was full.

Plaintiff Linda Bell, a 50-year-old mother of three, was shopping at the thrift store when the building came down on top of her. She fell into the basement and was covered by rubble for more than an hour.

"She's still shook up real bad, sore, swollen up," Bell's brother, Keith Bell, told the AP on Friday. She's also suffering mental anguish from "seeing other people getting killed," he said.

Construction engineers have said the thrift store should have been evacuated during critical phases of the demolition project next door.

The Salvation Army was concerned enough about the demolition that its attorneys reached out to a lawyer for building owner STB Investments Corp., a company linked to prominent businessman and developer Richard Basciano.

"There was communication between The Salvation Army and the attorney of the neighboring building's owner, pertaining to the demolition. The neighbor assured The Salvation Army that they would be taking proper precautions," Maj. Robert W. Dixon, director of operations of The Salvation Army of Greater Philadelphia, said in a statement Friday.

"These discussions were never finalized," he said

John. · 06-08-2013, 07:45 PM

Who exactly did you think "might enjoy" learning about 6 people being tragically killed and so many others injured??

Socks · 06-08-2013, 07:46 PM

Tragedy? Better call the vulture politicians in, who will have ways to ensure this NEVER happens again.

Rochard · 06-08-2013, 07:50 PM

CNN reported earlier today that they found cocaine in his system.

SuckOnThis · 06-08-2013, 07:54 PM

Funny how you leave out the fact that he also had prescription painkillers in his blood.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...210608021.html

Grapesoda · 06-08-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Funny how you leave out the fact that he also had prescription painkillers in his blood.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...210608021.html

like funny as in a joke? a guy walked into a bar.... ????

Grapesoda · 06-08-2013, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

Tragedy? Better call the vulture politicians in, who will have ways to ensure this NEVER happens again.

when should we outlaw???

Grapesoda · 06-08-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

Tragedy? Better call the vulture politicians in, who will have ways to ensure this NEVER happens again.

burn down the library's???

Grapesoda · 06-08-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by John.

Who exactly did you think "might enjoy" learning about 6 people being tragically killed and so many others injured??

so many people around here like to blame all kinds of shit on EVERYTHING EXCEPT personal responsibility.. thought I would point that.

see if you're a pothead the guy fucked up, if you're not a pothead, weed is the issue. pretty simple.

when it gets to court the lawyers will be after the construction company, the building owner and inspectors and the crane operator who will claim he is addicted to drugs and couldn't help it because the man was keeping him down

Colmike9 · 06-08-2013, 08:05 PM

Excuse me, but he also had prescription pain killers in his system. Weed alone wouldn't do that...

Edit: Was it painkillers, coke, or both?

SuckOnThis · 06-08-2013, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

so many people around here like to blame all kinds of shit on EVERYTHING EXCEPT personal responsibility.. thought I would point that.

see if you're a pothead the guy fucked up, if you're not a pothead, weed is the issue. pretty simple.

when it gets to court the lawyers will be after the construction company, the building owner and inspectors and the crane operator who will claim he is addicted to drugs and couldn't help it because the man was keeping him down

StickyGreen · 06-08-2013, 09:07 PM

And people under the influence of alcohol get in their car and kill people... wtf is your point?

Shotsie · 06-08-2013, 09:14 PM

This kind of stuff is to be expected when you use non-union scab labor.

anexsia · 06-08-2013, 09:39 PM

So who's to say any of those drugs in his system caused the accident? He could've fucked up sober too.

arock10 · 06-09-2013, 04:28 AM

Weed is detectable for weeks in the body.... So couldve be high a week before and sober/just on pills then

Barry-xlovecam · 06-09-2013, 06:34 AM

There should be licensing requirements for heavy equipment operators on construction and other sites. Mandatory drug testing at random 3 - 6 month intervals with short notice (48 hrs?)

I remember working on a construction site years ago when a crane dropped a pallet of roofing material it was lifting to a 2 story flat rooftop -- scary as hell event (@shotsie -- this was a union job -- an addition to a GE facility -- Union National Maintenance Contract). Shit happens and when working on a construction site you cannot be high and not aware of hazards.

I saw a lot of near accidents and many had alcohol or drugs involved and some were just stupid fuck ups ...

Shotsie · 06-09-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

There should be licensing requirements for heavy equipment operators on construction and other sites. Mandatory drug testing at random 3 - 6 month intervals with short notice (48 hrs?)

I remember working on a construction site years ago when a crane dropped a pallet of roofing material it was lifting to a 2 story flat rooftop -- scary as hell event (@shotsie -- this was a union job -- an addition to a GE facility -- Union National Maintenance Contract). Shit happens and when working on a construction site you cannot be high and not aware of hazards.

I saw a lot of near accidents and many had alcohol or drugs involved and some were just stupid fuck ups ...

Bottom line is they brought in some fucking fly-by-night scab outfit who didn't know what the fuck they were doing to demolish this place. Matter of fact, there were two local 1050 carpenters working across the street who warned these guys and reported the site to OSHA the day before this happened. They were pulling out every single support beam and floor joist in the place while the building was completely intact, so they could sell the fucking reclaimed wood to the lumberyard.

If there were union operating engineers on that job this accident never would've happened.

winter_ · 06-09-2013, 11:40 AM

oh well time to watch californication.

FingerPrinter · 06-09-2013, 12:29 PM

thought those might heads might enjoy that did you?

Barry-xlovecam · 06-09-2013, 01:25 PM

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Authorities believe the 42-year-old Benschop had been using an excavator Wednesday when the remains of the four-story building under demolition gave way

A Union heavy equipment operator makes 80K -100K a year and he probably gets drug tested by the union or his employer. But union workers will try to get non-union large jobs shut down all of the time so I would take their complaints with a grain of salt.

But why the hell were there occupants within the danger area of a demo in progress? That is the fault of the governmental jurisdiction. They are equally responsible for the deaths occurring.

You don't have lunch in the radius of falling debris.

The only difference between a get-high union guy and a non-union guy is the non-union guy is still on parole ... I have seen competent union and non-union crews for 13 years as a licensed contractor. I was one of the few contractors invited to bid on stone veneered highway bridges and have bidded and worked a lot of union or prevailing wage jobs -- been around heavy equipment for years.

This guy made a fatal mistake. In this state you need a CDL "A" and a certification from a training school or a union apprentice program to get hired to work an excavator for large construction projects or demos.

Maybe, you could find a job in a gravel pit or coal pit loading trucks without them -- can't do too much damage there.

sicone · 06-09-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

so many people around here like to blame all kinds of shit on EVERYTHING EXCEPT personal responsibility..

mineistaken · 06-09-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

Excuse me, but he also had prescription pain killers in his system. Weed alone wouldn't do that...

Edit: Was it painkillers, coke, or both?

of course its painkillers, weed is magical and friendly drug. At least that what junkies always imply here on the forum.

Grapesoda · 06-09-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

[INDENT]There should be licensing requirements for heavy equipment operators on construction and other sites. Mandatory drug testing at random 3 - 6 month intervals with short notice (48 hrs?)

pretty sure there is certification requirements HOWEVER the unions are there meddling with the drug test

Grapesoda · 06-09-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

of course its painkillers, weed is magical and friendly drug. At least that what junkies always imply here on the forum.

Grapesoda · 06-09-2013, 01:57 PM

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So who's to say any of those drugs in his system caused the accident? He could've fucked up sober too.

that's weird , every time somebody gets shot it's the guns fault???? you mean it's not????

Dvae · 06-09-2013, 02:20 PM

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Bottom line is they brought in some fucking fly-by-night scab outfit who didn't know what the fuck they were doing to demolish this place. Matter of fact, there were two local 1050 carpenters working across the street who warned these guys and reported the site to OSHA the day before this happened. They were pulling out every single support beam and floor joist in the place while the building was completely intact, so they could sell the fucking reclaimed wood to the lumberyard.

If there were union operating engineers on that job this accident never would've happened.

We get it you have a hardon for unions!

Dvae · 06-09-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

of course its painkillers, weed is magical and friendly drug. At least that what junkies always imply here on the forum.

Leave it up to the junkie to tell us wonderful his drug is, especially when it comes to potheads.

Shotsie · 06-09-2013, 04:18 PM

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[INDENT]But union workers will try to get non-union large jobs shut down all of the time so I would take their complaints with a grain of salt.

That is a rather specious claim. I've certainly never witnessed it. No, sir.

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But why the hell were there occupants within the danger area of a demo in progress? That is the fault of the governmental jurisdiction. They are equally responsible for the deaths occurring.

You don't have lunch in the radius of falling debris.

I don't know, that's on the department of licenses & inspections. The guy may have been using an excavator at the time of the collapse, but I'm telling you what I heard from a few carpenters I talked to, which is that these guys were tearing the fucking wooden floor joists and support beams out the day before and having them hauled off to the lumber yard.

And from the news reports coming out, it looks like they were right:

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Afterward, attorney Robert Mongeluzzi, who said his firm represents three plaintiffs in lawsuits against the property owner and contractor, said his initial examination indicated that the building that collapsed had brick-bearing walls and wooden girders without steel support and should have been demolished by hand rather than using heavy equipment.

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

pretty sure there is certification requirements HOWEVER the unions are there meddling with the drug test

Meddling with the drug tests... you wouldn't happen to be talking out of your ass, would you?

SuckOnThis · 06-09-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

of course its painkillers, weed is magical and friendly drug. At least that what junkies always imply here on the forum.

Says the alcoholic who believes booze is harmless.

BFT3K · 06-09-2013, 08:46 PM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=UHqjHFrzGwk

dyna mo · 06-09-2013, 08:56 PM

dyna mo · 06-09-2013, 09:07 PM

isn't weed decriminalized in phillyy these days ? if it is, it won't play a factor, all the cannabanoids ar fat soluble, they stay in your system up to 3 months depending on how big a stoner you are.

and the measurement scale is irrelevant. it's not like the alcohol scale, the higher up on it you are the more you are drunk and not able to operate heavy machinery/car, etc.

there is no similar correlation with higher levels of weed in your system and impaired abilities

nico-t · 06-10-2013, 03:45 AM

Go drive while high, that's very safe.

BlackCrayon · 06-10-2013, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

isn't weed decriminalized in phillyy these days ? if it is, it won't play a factor, all the cannabanoids ar fat soluble, they stay in your system up to 3 months depending on how big a stoner you are.

and the measurement scale is irrelevant. it's not like the alcohol scale, the higher up on it you are the more you are drunk and not able to operate heavy machinery/car, etc.

there is no similar correlation with higher levels of weed in your system and impaired abilities

no doubt. that article is moronic. a toxicology report can't tell if someone is 'high on marijuana'. mr sober bmbradley just has to let everyone know how all of society's problems are caused by certain substances.

Barry-xlovecam · 06-10-2013, 06:11 AM

Licence was vacated (non-renewal) in 2003

30% of the workers on construction sites are get-highs and drinkers, abuser class and not casual users. Maybe, 5% are drunk or high on the job in residential construction and 1% on large commercial jobs (mostly union).

The contractor didn't exercise due diligence in hiring this guy (allegedly)

The city (or governmental jurisdictional authority) Building and Safety Department was negligent in allowing people within the danger radius of the Demolition Project.

I'm not talking shit -- I was in the game for 13 years ...

Accidents between heavy equipment or cranes and people are mostly fatal.

Grapesoda · 06-10-2013, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Shotsie

Meddling with the drug tests... you wouldn't happen to be talking out of your ass, would you?

typo... meddling with drug testing due to civil rights bullshit

Grapesoda · 06-10-2013, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

no doubt. that article is moronic. a toxicology report can't tell if someone is 'high on marijuana'. mr sober bmbradley just has to let everyone know how all of society's problems are caused by certain substances.

just pointing out that there is no personal responsibility, however I do think weed should carry the same restrictions as booze... disagree?

actually I smoked weed for years... pretty much a bullshit drug IMHO... as far as drugs go that is and weed is a DRUG.

if you were working for me I would fire you if you came to work all fucked up on weed, just like if you came to work drunk, no difference to me at all. in fact I have fired several people for being fucked up on weed

Grapesoda · 06-10-2013, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

no doubt. that article is moronic. a toxicology report can't tell if someone is 'high on marijuana'. mr sober bmbradley just has to let everyone know how all of society's problems are caused by certain substances.

damn and here I thought all society's problems were caused by guns

BlackCrayon · 06-10-2013, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

just pointing out that there is no personal responsibility, however I do think weed should carry the same restrictions as booze... disagree?

actually I smoked weed for years... pretty much a bullshit drug IMHO... as far as drugs go that is and weed is a DRUG.

if you were working for me I would fire you if you came to work all fucked up on weed, just like if you came to work drunk, no difference to me at all. in fact I have fired several people for being fucked up on weed

i agree but there needs to be better testing methods than what is currently out there. like i said previously, simply testing for the presence of marijuana in the system does not mean the person is or was recently high as i'm sure you know. this guy could of been totally sober but now he is labeled as guilty just because it was in his system. create a system where you can actually tell when a person is high then you might be able to treat it like alcohol. although no matter how much weed someone smokes, they pretty much never act like someone who is drunk does but i do agree that impacts motor skills and judgement.

Barry-xlovecam · 06-10-2013, 07:18 AM

I doubt any Union or Employer would "meddle" with any drug test -- it limits their liability and affects their insurance costs.

But I remember all the stories of guys drinking vinegar or drinking tea made with some herb that would mask the drug residues found in a urine test ... worked back then sometimes they claimed and yeah, piss tests for the PO ... that was a biggie ...

ThunderBalls · 06-10-2013, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

of course its painkillers, weed is magical and friendly drug. At least that what junkies always imply here on the forum.

Cannabis users are junkies? Are you trolling or retarded?

06-08-2013, 07:43 PM	#1
Grapesoda So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 46,238	pothead kills 6, injures 13 thought you might heads might enjoy this: A heavy equipment operator with a lengthy rap sheet who is accused of *being high on marijuana* when a downtown building collapsed onto a thrift store, killing six people, surrendered Saturday to face charges in the deaths, police said. Sean Benschop faces six counts of involuntary manslaughter, 13 counts of recklessly endangering another person and one count of risking a catastrophe. A warrant had been issued for his arrest and police had been searching for him. Authorities believe the 42-year-old Benschop had been using an excavator Wednesday when the remains of the four-story building under demolition gave way and toppled onto an attached Salvation Army thrift store, killing two employees and four customers and injuring 13 others. Deputy Mayor Everett Gillison said a *toxicology report showed evidence that Benschop was high on marijuana*. That finding, combined with witness statements and evidence from the scene, led to the decision Friday to raid his North Philadelphia home and later seek an arrest warrant, he said. Benschop's attorney, Daine Grey, said his client was not at fault. "This was an accident, but Mr. Benschop is not responsible," Grey said Saturday. "And we believe that, in time, the facts will show that he is not responsible." Benschop was wearing a bandage on his right arm when he turned himself in. Grey said he had been injured at a worksite, but he declined to say where or when. Grey said Benschop was able to operate heavy equipment. "He was completely able to operate a backhoe," Grey said. " ... He operated it safely, as he always does, and he did not violate the law in any capacity. "He has been doing this for more than 13 years. He is very experienced. He has worked for a number of contractors throughout the region. All of the contractors have found him professional and found that he did his work with the highest regard for the safety of those around him." Mayor Michael Nutter, in a statement Saturday night, called for harsh charges and punishment for Benschop. "It is my hope that the harshest level of charges are brought against Sean Benschop and he is punished accordingly," Nutter said. "We must also seek answers from property owners Richard Basciano and Griffin T. Campbell who hired Benschop to do the significant job of operating heavy equipment. These three individuals bear the ultimate and sole responsibility for this tragedy. Justice will only be served if Sean Benschop receives a sentence that buries him in a jailhouse forever, just like his victims were buried on Wednesday." Benschop, who also goes by the name Kary Roberts, has been arrested at least 11 times since 1994 on charges ranging from drugs to theft to weapons possession, according to court records. He was twice sentenced to prison in the 1990s after being convicted on drug trafficking charges. Benschop's last arrest, on a charge of aggravated assault, came in January 2012, but the case was dismissed for lack of evidence. As the criminal investigation heated up, at least two survivors sued the demolition contractor and building owner, alleging gross recklessness at the job site. The city, meanwhile, promised to crack down on the demolition industry. "We can do much better," Nutter said at a news conference Friday. "We will not accept the status quo in the face of this tragedy." Nutter's reform plan for construction sites includes random drug testing on heavy equipment operators. "If that's a factor here, that certainly takes things in a very different direction," he said hours before the charges against Benschop were confirmed. The mayor also pledged to adopt tougher background requirements for demolition contractors, including information about each worker's experience, and more frequent site inspections when demolitions are underway. His plan could run into resistance from builders who say they're already highly regulated. "I think that before we do anything, before we rush to any judgment about how to fix what happened, we have to have all the facts," said Steven Lakin, executive managing director of the General Building Contractors Association, a trade group representing Philadelphia-area contractors. "Everybody wants to regulate demolition contractors, but I'm not so sure that's the answer." Lawyers for the two survivors who have sued accuse demolition contractor Griffin Campbell _ who has a criminal background and has filed for bankruptcy twice _ of violating federal safety regulations. They say building owner Richard Basciano should have picked a more qualified and competent contractor to do the work. No one answered the phone at a listing for Campbell on Saturday, and the voice mailbox was full. Plaintiff Linda Bell, a 50-year-old mother of three, was shopping at the thrift store when the building came down on top of her. She fell into the basement and was covered by rubble for more than an hour. "She's still shook up real bad, sore, swollen up," Bell's brother, Keith Bell, told the AP on Friday. She's also suffering mental anguish from "seeing other people getting killed," he said. Construction engineers have said the thrift store should have been evacuated during critical phases of the demolition project next door. The Salvation Army was concerned enough about the demolition that its attorneys reached out to a lawyer for building owner STB Investments Corp., a company linked to prominent businessman and developer Richard Basciano. "There was communication between The Salvation Army and the attorney of the neighboring building's owner, pertaining to the demolition. The neighbor assured The Salvation Army that they would be taking proper precautions," Maj. Robert W. Dixon, director of operations of The Salvation Army of Greater Philadelphia, said in a statement Friday. "These discussions were never finalized," he said

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SuckOnThis So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my head Posts: 6,844	Funny how you leave out the fact that he also had prescription painkillers in his blood. http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...210608021.html

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StickyGreen . Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 13,076	And people under the influence of alcohol get in their car and kill people... wtf is your point?

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Shotsie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: 12th & Tree Posts: 1,208	This kind of stuff is to be expected when you use non-union scab labor.

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anexsia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,735	So who's to say any of those drugs in his system caused the accident? He could've fucked up sober too.

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	There should be licensing requirements for heavy equipment operators on construction and other sites. Mandatory drug testing at random 3 - 6 month intervals with short notice (48 hrs?) I remember working on a construction site years ago when a crane dropped a pallet of roofing material it was lifting to a 2 story flat rooftop -- scary as hell event (@shotsie -- this was a union job -- an addition to a GE facility -- Union National Maintenance Contract). Shit happens and when working on a construction site you cannot be high and not aware of hazards. I saw a lot of near accidents and many had alcohol or drugs involved and some were just stupid fuck ups ... Last edited by Barry-xlovecam; 06-09-2013 at 06:46 AM..

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,941	isn't weed decriminalized in phillyy these days ? if it is, it won't play a factor, all the cannabanoids ar fat soluble, they stay in your system up to 3 months depending on how big a stoner you are. and the measurement scale is irrelevant. it's not like the alcohol scale, the higher up on it you are the more you are drunk and not able to operate heavy machinery/car, etc. there is no similar correlation with higher levels of weed in your system and impaired abilities

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nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	Go drive while high, that's very safe.

06-10-2013, 06:11 AM	#35
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Licence was vacated (non-renewal) in 2003 30% of the workers on construction sites are get-highs and drinkers, abuser class and not casual users. Maybe, 5% are drunk or high on the job in residential construction and 1% on large commercial jobs (mostly union). The contractor didn't exercise due diligence in hiring this guy (allegedly) The city (or governmental jurisdictional authority) Building and Safety Department was negligent in allowing people within the danger radius of the Demolition Project. I'm not talking shit -- I was in the game for 13 years ... Accidents between heavy equipment or cranes and people are mostly fatal.

06-10-2013, 07:18 AM	#40
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	I doubt any Union or Employer would "meddle" with any drug test -- it limits their liability and affects their insurance costs. But I remember all the stories of guys drinking vinegar or drinking tea made with some herb that would mask the drug residues found in a urine test ... worked back then sometimes they claimed and yeah, piss tests for the PO ... that was a biggie ...