Sid70

A guy is trying to tell you the US considers Russia an enemy still. That's why you have to apply for a visa and pay $120 ))))))

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dyna mo

finally someone can grasp the concept of lingering mistrust.

i didn't invent it, i don't have it, i didn't disapprove the treaty. i simply informed the thread that is why we didn't sign.

not hard to grasp.

dyna mo

i know it must suck for you to be owned by a doper. even with all my missing brain cells, i have to opt-out of all the times i can point out your bufoonery.

just a punk

Wrong! $160 for a 3-year visa. But yeah, that's a very reasonable price to punish the commie tourists that spend millions and millions of dollars yearly in the USA

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_Richard_

perceived buffoonery, i believe you meant.

please, with insults, proper spelling and grammar.

DWB

It wasn't supposed to be insulting. It was a comeback for this:

Russia was one of those countries, and as you have just found out, they have plenty of rights and are not arresting someone in the airport with a 200 man SWAT armed team like the USA would.

dyna mo

the spelling and grammar in my post is proper and correct. again, richard displaying how completely stupid he is.

richard, i tried to be nice to you, even when several people warned me that would backfire, i still tried to be ok with you. you couldn't figure that out and combined with your lack of common sense, reason, intelligence and inability to construct a logical post, you choose instead to try and insult me on a porno web board about drug use.


got it.

Sid70

I did pay $120 for 5 year visa, they own you LOL

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dyna mo

russian tourist vacation in america for 3 years at time and you have a problem with a $52/year fee to handle that.

got it.

dyna mo

how long can i vaca in russia for $140/$250 expedited?

You can apply for the visa in person at the Russian Consulate General that covers the state you are residing in. The application fee is $140 for regular processing and $ 250 for expedited services within three working days.

AllAboutCams

I thought he was in china

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just a punk

Yes, that's a great fuck up

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just a punk

3 year visa dose not mean 3 year in the USA at a time. In means I can visit the USA during 3 years but not more than 6 months a year (if I don't confuse it). I have no problem with that.

On the other hand, another countries which are interested in money from Russian tourists have no visa regime with us at all. Because more tourists - more money. That's just a business

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Rochard

China is free too.

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EddyTheDog

The Russians are not much better - My uncle has to jump through hoops and pays a fair amount to get a Russian visa twice a year - He is going to see his Russian wife and step kids...

_Richard_

how do you spell 'bufoonery' again?

dyna mo

i know that.

here's more on obtaining a russian business visa, required for stay up to 12 months or multiple visits, and this is after obtaining an offiicial invitation. also required: hiv test

Invitation in hand, you can then apply for a visa at any Russian embassy. Costs vary ? anything from US$50 to US$450 ? depending on the type of visa applied for and how quickly you need it. Rather frustratingly, Russian embassies are practically laws unto themselves, each with different fees and slightly different application rules ? avoid potential hassles by checking well in advance what these rules might be.

Read more: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/russia/p...#ixzz2XLFJW1iL

dyna mo

i'll have to defer to you on the spelling, you're prolly(sic) more familiar with the term than i am.


nevertheless, tell ya what _Richard_, i'll extend the olive branch again. you agree to stop your incessant misplaced barbs and jabs (a canadian bringing up the recent sc decision on voting in a thread about snowden, for example), and i will go back to being friendly with you.

_Richard_

see this? remember this? you posted it two hours ago. if this is what you think 'friendly' is, you smoked a lot more than you're telling us

DWB

Ever spent any real amount of time there?

While they don't have the same freedom of speech protection that westerners have, and the government does censor the media and internet, their day to day life is no different than the average American. You could argue that corporate America controls the western media and also dictates what you see, often telling slanted stories, half truths, or not covering important things at all. So both are censored to some degree, just one different than the other.

Those with money do what they want. Those without money do what they are told and are often exploited. Not much different than what you're used to seeing in the USA, minus some of the extreme exploitation of the poorest. Which the opens the conversation up to, if Americans were not buying all the crap they were making, most of them wouldn't be exploited via hard labor conditions they way they are now.

directfiesta

Right as usual .... Damn, it must feel good to be you ... aside from the few unfried brain cells left ...

waiting for your stupid comment...
Meanwhile, lets all chant toguether : USA !! USA !! USA!!

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dyna mo

it wasn't the meth that fried my brain _dick_, it was all the pills.

dyna mo

wtf are you trying to say here dipshit? that goes exactly to my point. we still don't trust the russians and we've captured and prosecuted russian spies.

you can't figure that out and so come after me instead? and continue with the anti?


hahahahahahaha, so obvious yet you can't see it. the absolutely hilarious part is that it's stupid to still have mistrust and not sign but you think that my relaying that stupidity is justifying it.


morons.

_Richard_

dyna mo

i'm curious richtard- how much time needs to pass between my letting you know you are out of your league trying to insult america at the sc level and an olive branch extended on gfy? obviously you are still butthurt 2 hours later about someone letting you know how silly that was.

directfiesta

reading impaired ?????

This is why you do not have a treaty of extradition, not your stupid Reaganesque reason of '' Cold War '' :

.. CIA renditions ... ring a bell ... shoud be ringing real loud with an echo ....

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dyna mo

do i really have to explain that is the reason to have a treaty? to stop illegal abductions?

i mean really? really really?

lucas131

snowdensextape.com is still available

_Richard_

suddenly i have way better things to do.

dyna mo

cool, so you are no longer butthurt. are going to accept my offer now?

DWB

ColBigBalls

The better question is who fucking cares.

just a punk

I never said that Russian visa is something easy to get. Our visa laws are fucked out even much more than the US ones. I'm not proud of it all if you ask me about

Just for a record.

P.S. Here you can start spitting at me.

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DWB

Clark Griswold cares. So does everyone in this thread.

just a punk

I don't want to read more because I do believe into everything you said above. I know our visa rules are too fucked up ("thanks" to Putin and his gang of thieves). It's a shame for my country and there is nothing I can do about it

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just a punk

P.S. I'm not kidding. The Russian visa rules are real outstanding for no reason. That's not only about the USA but about many other countries too like Serbia (I don't have a single idea why our true brothers have to apply for the Russian visa) and others.

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Rochard

WTF? Really?

If the government censors the media, and the government censors the internet, I'm guessing their life is vastly different than the "average" american.

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dyna mo

i appreciate you being candid.

i'm embarrased for the shit my gov does big time. this entire event, for instance, it's not only a complex nightmare to sort out, it's completely embarrassing- the snooping, the snoops, the lack of oversight, fuck, i can go on.


it's a massive face palm to have to admit that 20+ years after the cold war ended and perestroika, etc and we/our government still have suspicions that impede better relations.

it's like iran, good people there and their government is not really representative of them.

very few americans think our gov represents us well. worst ever in history right now in fact.

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Rochard

How can you have oversight on millions of employees?

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baddog

Being ex-military, perhaps you have heard of ranks. The theory being that you have a bunch of small groups or squads that are each supervised by one guy for each squad; then you have another guy that is over a group of squads, which you might call a company. Then you have one guy that supervises the supervisors of the various companies. You see where this is going?

oppoten

It's in Wales.

Not far from wehateporn in fact. Perhaps he knows.

just a punk

Re-watched it yesterday

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just a punk

Russian Human Rights Council Head says Snowden could get asylum in Russia

Head of the Russian Presidential Human Rights Council Mikhail Fedotov said that Russia could have given asylum to former CIA employee Edward Snowden, who released information regarding the control of the U.S. special services on the Internet.

"If Mr. Snowden files such a request, then it can be considered by the president," Fedotov told Interfax on Thursday.

"Snowden deserves protection," Fedotov said.

So that Snowden receives asylum, all the procedures stipulated in a relevant presidential decree must be followed, Fedotov said.

"It is difficult for me to talk about the situation with Snowden from the point of view of foreign policy. This situation is utterly clear to me from the point of view of human rights protection: a person, disclosing secrets concealed by special services, if these secrets are a threat to the society, a threat to millions people - which refers to the total surveillance of the Internet - such a person does deserve political asylum in this or that country," Fedotov said.

Snowden fled to Hong Kong in May and then released the information about secret operations of the U.S. special services about surveillance on the Internet.

Snowden is currently in the transit area of Sheremetyevo Airport in Moscow - he cannot fly out because his U.S. passport has been annulled.

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Rochard

Yes, I see where it's going. You mean... That a Colonel is held directly responsable for a private he didn't recruit into the military, didn't recruit to his unit, didn't personally train, and only met once or twice and knows more or less nothing about him other than the fact that the Private is in the military and takes orders from him?

Put 1200 men into a battalion and then 20k men into a division, and you don't think you won't have a handful of bad apples? You don't think one or two or ten will become criminals in the next year, or that one or two of them wouldn't sell out their country if offered enough cash?

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Rochard

Outstanding. We have a NSA agent getting asylum in Russia.

So he can't get out of the airport because his passport has been annulled. So he can't go back to Hong Kong, can't go anywhere else, and can't leave area of the airport he is in. Very interesting.

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baddog

You are obviously simplifying it, or just trolling because that is not fact.

dyna mo

so our snooping program is so massive we can't oversee it and that's just the way it is.

even i can see ways to beef up the oversight. have better hiring practices, don't have a fisa secret court that rubber stamps warrants. create secure perimeters that trip alarms with secret documents.

it's on record many places about how out of control the intel industry is since the ramp up due to 9/11 so i am not sure what you are suggesting here, everybody knows the system grew exponentially and the consequential issues arising from that growth.

just a punk

What's a prob with that?

Watch "The Terminal"

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dyna mo

this entire thing is beyond insane now.

so we tried to threaten ecuador by saying we will pull their priviledge of buying products from us if they let snowden in/don't hand him over.

ecuador just replied:

Ecuador's government gave the Obama administration a defiant response in the face of warnings not to grant asylum to NSA leaker Edward Snowden, sending the message that it does not need U.S. aid and assistance.
According to Reuters, Ecuador said Thursday it was waiving favorable trade rights under a trade agreement with the U.S. In a dig at Washington, officials there also offered the U.S. $23 million in aid for "education about human rights."
The moves were a signal that Ecuador was not considering its own U.S. benefits in weighing Snowden's asylum request.



at the same time obama is in africa saying we aren't scrambling jets for snowden.

face palm.