dyna mo

it's funny because of the blatant flip-flop from a few days ago where putin went on about how he wished snowden would make up his mind and move on out of russia.

just a punk

His a clown.

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dyna mo

is that the general view of him in russia?

just a punk

I can't say for the whole Russia. There is a democracy (i.e. everybody has his/her own point of view). Me and all my relatives/friends don't like him and have never voted for him. However I know many people especially rednecks and religion maniacs in low-educated villages do support him. Their votes do count equivalent to ours (yes, we have a direct election system unlike the USA ) so I have no clue about his overall support in the whole country, but I guess it's about 40..50% or so.

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just a punk

As we say here, Moscow is not Russia and Russia is not Moscow. It's like to compare NYC or LA with the real one-storied America.

P.S. I've been to both and I know the difference

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MaDalton

i found this very amusing...

and yeah, Putin is an undercover capitalist, in his time as KGB officer in Eastern Germany he sold KGB vehicles to private people for profit

i happen to know cause i met someone who bought a car from him

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dyna mo

gotcha, i was curious as to the approval rating of putin.

all votes count the same here. i think you are thinking of the electoral college.

it's pretty crazy how he's kept himself in a power position throughout all the changes, perostroika up to now. any ideas to his net worth? he had to cash in when the union split up eh.

just a punk

Nope. Gore got more votes than Bush Jr, but we all know who has become a president. Should I explain why that was possible or you know it already as I hope?

Once again there is no direct election system in the USA.

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Rochard

Snowden didn't think this out too well. It's stunning that he thought he jet set around on someone else's dime without understanding that the US would kill his passport.

Not too bright.

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dyna mo

of course i know that.

that's not what you implied earlier and that's what i was replying to.

everybody's vote here counts the same as everybody else's. that has nothing to do with the electoral college and how the election process works.

baddog

Like Scott said, you are not allowing for the Electoral College.

dyna mo

this implies that you think rednecks or religious maniacs vote is less than a non-redneck here, that's not the case.

campimp

the electoral college has worked pretty well, but not perfectly. I understand when it was developed it was a far better option that the alternative, which would have been to allow only members of Congress to vote.... but i think we are at a point where it is time for the U.S. to have a direct popular vote.

the two main political parties have been around for decades, so you would still have just 2 main candidates, its is super easy for the entire nation to hear every word a politician says on the campaign trail, and technology is where the votes can be easily tallied on a national level.

just my opinion, but i dont see any reason to risk having another instance where the popular vote and the actual results do not line up. i think its happened just three times ever, and before Bush it was in the late 1800's, but still that is 3 times too many, and the third one really cost the country imo

just a punk

I see what you men but still. There are states with a very different states of education. E.g. NY vs Kansas. So if we will sum up all the voices directly (one voice per a citizen) for a whole country (not for states), we'll get a way different result.

E.g. Let's consider that 65% citizens of Kansas have voted for Bush Jr, it will be considered that the whole state has voted for him (i.e. 100%). But wait, where are those 35% that gave their voices to Gore? This is not fair.

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baddog

Wow . . . just because they don't agree with your politics they are too uneducated to vote? Is this a typical Russian attitude?

just a punk

I didn't say who agree "to my politics" and who is not. Keep your fantasies to yourself.

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_Richard_

furthermore, it's how it's done in the states by this mouth breathers cop buddies

oops

i mean 'cop arch nemesis'

baddog

You are said that the reason people in KS vote differently than those in NY is because of their education.

dyna mo

you 2 fucking retards can't even stay focused on talking shit about america. snowden's not enough, now it's about the electoral fucking college and gfyer's supporting electoral college cop buddies.

i mean, wtf.

if you 2 could only see yourselves.

DWB

He knew exactly what he was doing. He is even quoted as saying he knew the USA would revoke his passport immediately, and that he knew he was lucky to have even made it out of the country. He had to alert them of any international travel in advance and didn't do so.

I can't believe you guys still think this guy is some idiot blindly wondering around the world and lucking into offers from Ecuador, Russia, and Germany for asylum.

dyna mo

i can't believe you think this is all a master plan. besides, he doesn't have any offers for asylum from anywhere. reuters is reporting the exact opposite.

was that part of the plan too?

DWB

No plan, yet he has still evaded being arrested by the most powerful nation in the world who has FBI agents in Hong Kong yet they were unable to detain him even though that had the authority to do so. He then he violated Russia transit visa, yet he has yet to be arrested by anyone there either. All of this is quite an accomplishment for someone who's winging it. Beginners luck?

DWB

I forgot to add, none of us have ANY idea what his end game is and who's even playing the game.

The spy business is always smoke and mirrors. Whatever is put out in the media right now on either side is probably put there for a reason.

dyna mo

absolutely beginner's luck, he is a beginner. he's not a veteran, he was a snoop for 3 months. there are no classes on how to be a nsa leaker, besides, it's very clear to me he didn't even research previous nsa leaks.

moreiver, he is very lcuky due to animosity towards usa, hong kong, as you pointed out, prides itself on having a better system than china, based on that system, they decided the extradition request was invalid, not to mention this is an opp to snub usa.

russia, exactly the same.

just a punk

You didn't get it again. I said that the education level of KS and NY is different. So the majority in these states will probably vote for different candidates. Your system turns the majority into 100% of votes and simple "forgets" about the minority which could have a serious %. This is why the indirect (you call "electoral college") voting system sucks a big time and does not represent the real situation.

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_Richard_

you have no idea what you're talking about 90% of the time, eh?

dyna mo

again, you let me know when you are through being upset and we can stop this sort of silliness. honestly, i'd rather not bother having to get sidetracked with you.

baddog

Just admit that besides it having nothing to do with you, you do not have a clue.

_Richard_

i can see how that be a problem

dyna mo

99 problems but a richard aint' 1

again, you let me know and we can try and act like adults.

_Richard_

dyna mo

dang, that was pretty funny right? you had to lol at that play on words i did there.

anyhoo, you let me know when you're ready to call it off and we can meet in the middle, there's always a middle ground.

just a punk

Just admit that you are didn't get anything we were taking about here. Perhaps you are too old for that shit. I feel for you anyways. Get rest already

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_Richard_

this is the middle ground you're referring to:

whats wrong man.

you can throw the punches just fine.. it's just that tricky 'oh god he's responding' that you seem to have trouble with

dyna mo

i don't feel like i am having any trouble with anything here.


again, i am ready to stop whenever you are. you can't see that you continue, so i do too. you agree to knock it off and i will too. you haven't done that so i will continue, not hard to understand, well, maybe it is, i guess that's why i have to keep telling you.

_Richard_

never do drugs again, ok?

dyna mo

see there ya go again, drugs are for adults, i've had good times on them. you could use a chill pill in fact.

_Richard_

oh? anything you'd suggest?

dyna mo

ask your shrink. i only go with doctor's orders.

_Richard_

are you a shrink?

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A Plane Carrying The Bolivian President Was Rerouted Over Suspicions That Edward Snowden Was On Board

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Kinda crazy to re-route the plane of the President of a nation. They must have had some strong feelings about him being on board.

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