any one here Narcotics Anonymous or Alcoholics anonymous

[3om3]

iam Narcotics Anonymous and stop uesing drugs for 6 years now
any one eles???????

[babymaker]

No booze for over 3.5 years here, but did it all on my own, no AA. I hate cults and bullshit religion so AA is out. I like drugs tho :D

[Paully]

Originally Posted by babymaker

No booze for over 3.5 years here, but did it all on my own, no AA. I hate cults and bullshit religion so AA is out. I like drugs tho :D

Dead on yet hilarious.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by 3om3

iam Narcotics Anonymous and stop uesing drugs for 6 years now
any one eles???????

NA 23 years

[24/7 Blogging Crew]

heroin 22 years

[L-Pink]

Alcohol abusing stoner here.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Alcohol abusing stoner here.

yeah booze never really tasted good to me although I was a blackout drinker.. I would wake up driving down the road some weird place and not know where I was and then try and figure out how to get home

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

yeah booze never really tasted good to me although I was a blackout drinker.. I would wake up driving down the road some weird place and not know where I was and then try and figure out how to get home

Actually I now drink moderately and seldom do anything illegal. After awhile everything gets old.

[dimetrio]

I don't drink and drive, I just smoke and fly

[OldJeff]

One AA meeting, too much Jesus and tambourines for me over 16 years clean and sober, I got addicted to Internet money instead. I live much better now ;)

[bluebook18]

Originally Posted by dimetrio

I don't drink and drive, I just smoke and fly

Lol , ok

[3om3]

guys u all soo great
i love to tlak with u

[anexsia]

I was a heroin addict for 10+ years and I still occasionally go to NA meetings although I find it really tough to find ones I like around here. In fact I usually like the AA meetings better than NA but some AA groups don't want drug users that aren't there for alcohol in their meetings.

[pornmasta]

cocain anonymous

[k0nr4d]

I drink a glass or two of wine before bed probably 3-4 days out of the week, dunno if that qualifies as alcoholism in any way. It's not because I need it - I just like trying all sorts of different wines.

[arock10]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

I drink a glass or two of wine before bed probably 3-4 days out of the week, dunno if that qualifies as alcoholism in any way. It's not because I need it - I just like trying all sorts of different wines.

Please get help immediately

[WoW!]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

I drink a glass or two of wine before bed probably 3-4 days out of the week, dunno if that qualifies as alcoholism in any way. It's not because I need it - I just like trying all sorts of different wines.

Of course you need it lol

[Jel]

Originally Posted by babymaker

No booze for over 3.5 years here, but did it all on my own, no AA. I hate cults and bullshit religion so AA is out. I like drugs tho :D

AA ain't religion in any form mate

...

2.5 years sober here, I go to AA meetings 3 - 5 times a week

[Pineapplez]

Originally Posted by 3om3

guys u all soo great
i love to tlak with u

Thank you, captain!!

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by arock10

Please get help immediately

What makes you say that? I don't drink right before going to sleep. I'll have that glass of wine while watching tv maybe 2-3 hours before bed. Sometimes it's wine, sometimes it's tea, sometimes it's nothing. I don't sleep better or worse after it, and I don't feel like I can't get through the evening without it - I just like trying different wines, just like I like trying different teas. I do it in the evening because I don't have to drive anywhere or do anything.

There's a distinct line between an addiction and enjoying something. If I had that one glass and next thing I knew the bottle was empty every time, then I'd maybe consider it a problem because it would be clear that once I start I can't stop . Brings up an interesting subject though - where do you draw the line between want and need with booze? My opinion is that the line when you stop drinking for taste and start drinking for effect.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

What makes you say that? I don't drink right before going to sleep. I'll have that glass of wine while watching tv maybe 2-3 hours before bed. Sometimes it's wine, sometimes it's tea, sometimes it's nothing. I don't sleep better or worse after it, and I don't feel like I can't get through the evening without it - I just like trying different wines, just like I like trying different teas. I do it in the evening because I don't have to drive anywhere or do anything.

There's a distinct line between an addiction and enjoying something. If I had that one glass and next thing I knew the bottle was empty every time, then I'd maybe consider it a problem because it would be clear that once I start I can't stop . Brings up an interesting subject though - where do you draw the line between want and need with booze? My opinion is that the line when you stop drinking for taste and start drinking for effect.

pretty sure that was a joke

And for me, it was the fact that I had no off button. If I'm having one pint, I'm carrying on until I physically can't have any more. Couple that fact in with the fact I loved drinking, which meant I did it every day for the nice buzz after 4 - 6, and it was a recipe for disaster - each and every time, I was sure that I'd just have 8 pints at most, and could never figure out why I never stopped at that amount, even though I truly meant it when I told myself that'd be the case that day.

Goes a bit more in-depth than that, but that's it in basic form

[babymaker]

Originally Posted by Jel

AA ain't religion in any form mate

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2.5 years sober here, I go to AA meetings 3 - 5 times a week

Step 3 - Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

If one uses the term God within the USA he has to mean without any prior qualifications the JudeoChristian God Jehovah Yeeway (sp??) etc can't be anything else. Where the cult comes in, is the people of AA and NA denying that to get you into the cult and brainwash. Prefferably soon while you are weak from the ravages of addiction, esspecially alchohol your body and mind will be depleted enough that they know if they pull you in now, you are open to program more now than at any other time in your life. Hence the 90 meeting in 90 days. Also the AA success rate at only 3 months out is less than 1%. But they wil never mention that, AA has killed 100's of thousands of people by taking over and controlling the detox industial complex, and preventing science from entering into the equation and conversation. A huge massive class action lawsuit needs to be brought against them to stop this, but people in the US love religion and cults unfortunetly.

Anyway, it might be different in the UK

[Jel]

heh, yeah it definitely is :D Nice one on the drinking though mate, well done

[babymaker]

Step 5 - Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

Step 6 - Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character (God's not even qualified in this step lol, did they forget?? or now we are deep thought we forgot?

Step 11 - Sought through prayer and meditations to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

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[babymaker]

Originally Posted by Jel

heh, yeah it definitely is :D Nice one on the drinking though mate, well done

Thanx, glad I don't drink anymore Was a horrible nightmare, i drank a lot lol. Not sure how i got out of it, just decided not to do it anymore, but wasn't easy

[Jel]

Originally Posted by babymaker

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yeah, all that put me right off the first time I went, which was about 17 years ago, was only when I went back this time round that I realised none of the uses of the word god meant the traditional sense of some bloke in the sky. But I do hear you, especially if they bang on over there that yes, it's mr white beard man. I couldn't be dealing with all that shit lol.

Really interesting though to hear what you said about them stating it has to be the religious god, that's definitely fucked up

[Jel]

Originally Posted by babymaker

Thanx, glad I don't drink anymore Was a horrible nightmare, i drank a lot lol. Not sure how i got out of it, just decided not to do it anymore, but wasn't easy

yep. I call it like giving birth - if you've never been in that situation you might think you know what it's all about, and how 'easy' it is to stop, but only the people who have given birth can ever know what giving birth is like

[babymaker]

Originally Posted by Jel

yep. I call it like giving birth - if you've never been in that situation you might think you know what it's all about, and how 'easy' it is to stop, but only the people who have given birth can ever know what giving birth is like

I had blood alchohol levels of over 500 and was in acute withdrwal lol and they had to shoot me up on ativan to keep me from seizing :D thats an alcoholic lol... fuck knows what my levels were when i felt ok or was drunk :D

[globofun]

Junk food anonymous

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by babymaker

If one uses the term God within the USA he has to mean without any prior qualifications the JudeoChristian God Jehovah Yeeway (sp??) etc can't be anything else. Where the cult comes in, is the people of AA and NA denying that to get you into the cult and brainwash. Prefferably soon while you are weak from the ravages of addiction, esspecially alchohol your body and mind will be depleted enough that they know if they pull you in now, you are open to program more now than at any other time in your life. Hence the 90 meeting in 90 days. Also the AA success rate at only 3 months out is less than 1%. But they wil never mention that, AA has killed 100's of thousands of people by taking over and controlling the detox industial complex, and preventing science from entering into the equation and conversation. A huge massive class action lawsuit needs to be brought against them to stop this, but people in the US love religion and cults unfortunetly.

Anyway, it might be different in the UK

actually, there is nothing in the big book about attending meetings. and aa is the big book. the meeting were added so drunks can get together and share strength through story telling.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

actually, there is nothing in the big book about attending meetings. and aa is the big book. the meeting were added so drunks can get together and share strength through story telling.

Well, for me personally, the meetings got me sober, not the 12 steps (even though I eventually went through them). Though I was led to believe, and I could be wrong of course, that the big book wasn't written until later, after the meetings had already started?

I find the meetings way more relaxed (again maybe that's just over here), and big book bashers as a bit 'Taliban' imo. Though horses for courses, different strokes for different folks and all that of course

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Jel

Well, for me personally, the meetings got me sober, not the 12 steps (even though I eventually went through them). Though I was led to believe, and I could be wrong of course, that the big book wasn't written until later, after the meetings had already started?

I find the meetings way more relaxed (again maybe that's just over here), and big book bashers as a bit 'Taliban' imo. Though horses for courses, different strokes for different folks and all that of course

i've forgotten that part of the aa history, but as my last sponsor way back when used to ask me when i got back from a meeting, "how much step work did ya get done at the meeting tonite?" hahahahha.

and it's true here as well, most people in aa sober up and not do any real step work. it's super you have worked all the steps, we used to figure about 90% in our area did not.

i always enjoyed going to meetings, i liked the comraderie a lot, it's always nice being around people that are like yourself, know that and can be that.

[Forest]

will have 7 years clean on 9/11

[babymaker]

Originally Posted by Forest

will have 7 years clean on 9/11

From what?? Booze dope rox lol

[bns666]

moderation is the key.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by bns666

moderation is the key.

i agree, 3-5 meetings a week is plenty!

[Forest]

Originally Posted by babymaker

From what?? Booze dope rox lol

"clean" in the recovery world generally refers to drugs. "sober" is for booze

I was an equal opportunity drug addict. what ever was around I was doing. But the mainstay was coke and KGB.

[dyna mo]

i'd rather be a dopeless hopefiend than hopeless dopefiend !

[babymaker]

Originally Posted by Forest

"clean" in the recovery world generally refers to drugs. "sober" is for booze

I was an equal opportunity drug addict. what ever was around I was doing. But the mainstay was coke and KGB.

Yea knew clean was drugs Was curios which ones

[babymaker]

Anyone know if that Dave Hester from Storagewars is an AA guy, he definetly seems like one of those really annoying big book preachers lol has the personality to a T :D

[Jel]

just a random observation; anyone who overuses "we" and "you" while sharing gets a huge mental 'vote down!' from me :D

[Jel]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i've forgotten that part of the aa history, but as my last sponsor way back when used to ask me when i got back from a meeting, "how much step work did ya get done at the meeting tonite?" hahahahha.

and it's true here as well, most people in aa sober up and not do any real step work. it's super you have worked all the steps, we used to figure about 90% in our area did not.

i always enjoyed going to meetings, i liked the comraderie a lot, it's always nice being around people that are like yourself, know that and can be that.

[babymaker]

Damn, this thread died like a mafucka :D

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by babymaker

If one uses the term God within the USA he has to mean without any prior qualifications the JudeoChristian God Jehovah Yeeway (sp??) etc can't be anything else. Where the cult comes in, is the people of AA and NA denying that to get you into the cult and brainwash. Prefferably soon while you are weak from the ravages of addiction, esspecially alchohol your body and mind will be depleted enough that they know if they pull you in now, you are open to program more now than at any other time in your life. Hence the 90 meeting in 90 days. Also the AA success rate at only 3 months out is less than 1%. But they wil never mention that, AA has killed 100's of thousands of people by taking over and controlling the detox industial complex, and preventing science from entering into the equation and conversation. A huge massive class action lawsuit needs to be brought against them to stop this, but people in the US love religion and cults unfortunetly.

Anyway, it might be different in the UK

works for me... maybe your fucked up in the head?

[babymaker]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

works for me... maybe your fucked up in the head?

Ohh I'm beyond fucked up in the head lol, just not programmable by religion peer pressure and cults

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by babymaker

Damn, this thread died like a mafucka :D

threads do that on sunday nights after midnight.

Originally Posted by babymaker

Ohh I'm beyond fucked up in the head lol, just not programmable by religion peer pressure and cults

millions and millions of people have figured out how to make it work for them without falling for peer pressure a cult or being programmed by religion.
worldwide.

you've already made it abundantly clear in this thread that you gave it a whirl and it didn't work for you. that's cool, no biggie, we get it.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by babymaker

Ohh I'm beyond fucked up in the head lol, just not programmable by religion peer pressure and cults

guess you can't tell shit from beans

[babymaker]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

threads do that on sunday nights after midnight.





millions and millions of people have figured out how to make it work for them without falling for peer pressure a cult or being programmed by religion.
worldwide.

you've already made it abundantly clear in this thread that you gave it a whirl and it didn't work for you. that's cool, no biggie, we get it.

But sober 3.5+ years, and I ran AA too lol like Stan from south park I run the cults

[Jel]

Originally Posted by babymaker

Ohh I'm beyond fucked up in the head lol

All the best people are

[babymaker]

Originally Posted by Jel

All the best people are

Of course Anyway, have fun kids i'm off for a few days to the folks :D