What kind of video cam can record quality/crisp/colorful vids like this? - GoFuckYourself.com

bausch · 06-30-2013, 05:01 PM

It's for a Youtube channel but I don't have anyone to tape me so taping myself. Right now I'm using the Iphone 5 front facing camera which records in 720P. I know it's lower quality than using the regular (non front facing iphone cam) but my videos don't turn out the way I like them unless I use front facing. I find that the video quality is super grainy and pretty crappy even using natural sunlight....

Do you need DSLR in order to capture quality video like the ones below?

Is there a significant difference between a SONY HD cam (non SLDR) but a reg HD cam versus Iphone5 cam using the front facing camera?

I want crisp/clear picture like this.... The color on my vids don't look as saturated as these and grainier... Also any idea what program is being used to edit Lupe Fuente's vids?

I use iphone 5 right now and my vids look nothing like these... at all...

I never got results like these with my old Flicam either (supposedly 1080) but still looks grainy... what I am doing wrong? Do their vids look clearer due to post editing or something?

L-Pink · 06-30-2013, 05:04 PM

What's she making, a sperm soufflé ?

dyna mo · 06-30-2013, 05:07 PM

yuo don't need a dlsr to get that, just something better than a phone cam.

look for maybe a jvc everio with full hd and also use a tripod to get crisp, clear and colorful.

DWB · 06-30-2013, 05:07 PM

There are Youtube channels where a lot of the professional Youtube guys discuss their gear and lighting. Many of them use a DSLR, but you don't need one to get good quality. I don't have any idea what those two videos were filmed with, but head over to Youtube and look around for channels where they share their tips.

You can also bump up your saturation and fix your white balance in whatever editing software you use. Helps to start the shoot with a color card you can reference from, then use that to white balance in the software, then bump up the saturation a little to make it pop.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 06-30-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

What's she making, a sperm soufflé ?

At least it's not a friggin' ex-GF music video...

ADG

bausch · 06-30-2013, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

There are Youtube channels where a lot of the professional Youtube guys discuss their gear and lighting. Many of them use a DSLR, but you don't need one to get good quality. I don't have any idea what those two videos were filmed with, but head over to Youtube and look around for channels where they share their tips.

You can also bump up your saturation and fix your white balance in whatever editing software you use. Helps to start the shoot with a color card you can reference from, then use that to white balance in the software, then bump up the saturation a little to make it pop.

Do you know of any freeware software that lets you bump up the saturation without adding any watermarks?

Thanks Dynamo, i will look into HD cams...

Looks like Lupe is doing makeup tutorials on youtube now. I like the quality of the cam used and the lighting; it looks pro. I can't get my stuff to look like that

Can anyone tell what video editing she is using on her vids?

dyna mo · 06-30-2013, 07:20 PM

you really need to start with recording before you worry about editing. you are not going to be able to adjust jackshit in editing. you can bump saturation maybe 15%, but your colors and white balance had better be spot on recording, you don't get a redo in any video editor.

oh i get it now, you are thinking you can still record on your iphone and fix it in editing, you can't.

bausch · 06-30-2013, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

you really need to start with recording before you worry about editing. you are not going to be able to adjust jackshit in editing. you can bump saturation maybe 15%, but your colors and white balance had better be spot on recording, you don't get a redo in any video editor.

oh i get it now, you are thinking you can still record on your iphone and fix it in editing, you can't.

Isn't iphone5 in HD though? It records in 740P I believe... not 1080 but close to it... is there really a huge diff in quality from iphone hd cam versus a stand-alone like a Sony or JVC?

I used to have a ghetto Cybershot Sony that had recording capablities a few years ago and the video quality was shit.

dyna mo · 06-30-2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch

Isn't iphone5 in HD though? It records in 740P I believe... not 1080 but close to it... is there really a huge diff in quality from iphone hd cam versus a stand-alone like a Sony or JVC?

I used to have a ghetto Cybershot Sony that had recording capablities a few years ago and the video quality was shit.

there is, very much. it's also very very hard to correct video for peeps like you and me who don't have access to systems specifically built to color correct and such. i don't even know if there is a way to correct a bad white balance in video with pc software.

mardigras · 06-30-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch

Can anyone tell what video editing she is using on her vids?

Try asking her through the send message system at YouTube. I asked a guy a similar question a while back and he was very nice and informative.

dyna mo · 06-30-2013, 07:38 PM

you may also want to try the free trial of adobe premiere elements. it's has all the basics and you should be able to find your way around it enough to let it auto correct and you can then get a general idea of what an editor can do.

mardigras · 06-30-2013, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch

I used to have a ghetto Cybershot Sony that had recording capablities a few years ago and the video quality was shit.

I have a Cybershot that's a few years old. The pictures are OK but the video is pretty nice. As a result I used it primarily for video. Guess it depends on the model.

bausch · 06-30-2013, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

I have a Cybershot that's a few years old. The pictures are OK but the video is pretty nice. As a result I used it primarily for video. Guess it depends on the model.

Actually mine was probably from 8-10 years ago and was the cheapest model... both pics and vids were horrible... all the pics turned out blurry.

Will check out Adobe Dynamo

dyna mo · 06-30-2013, 07:56 PM

you can also check out the app store, maybe there is a free editor there and you can see on your phone, i'd google professional iphone videos or iphone music video etc i'm sure you can prolly squeak better quality with some tips but overall to make it easier on yourself, a dedicated camcorder does wonders.

bausch · 06-30-2013, 08:03 PM

This guy holds up his camera up at around 15:00 and u can see it... Is that a HD cam you think or DSLR? It has a big lens... what kind of cam is that? His picture quality is pretty good; I would be happy with that... What kind of cam is that?

georgeyw · 06-30-2013, 08:15 PM

Any basic hd cam will shoot like that.

The quality you render the video is what will be the final decider...

dyna mo · 06-30-2013, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch

This guy holds up his camera up at around 15:00 and u can see it... Is that a HD cam you think or DSLR? It has a big lens... what kind of cam is that? His picture quality is pretty good; I would be happy with that... What kind of cam is that?

yup, that's very similar to the jvc everio, it may be a sony though, but it's a decent priced consumer camcorder, it looks recent, based on the size of the flipout screen.

they also include editing software, at least panis do. you can get something in the $300 range and be very happy and not pull your hair out trying to figure out out to eidt it and publish it.

Chris · 07-01-2013, 06:35 AM

thread is TL;DR but it is just DSLR's with proper lighting. Thats it.

candyflip · 07-01-2013, 06:37 AM

You can buy a Canon t3i which will do quality video just like you have posted for under $500 with a kit lens.

Spend another $200 on a small light kit and you are good to go. If your images are looking grainy, more light is gonna help clear that up.

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Originally Posted by bausch

This guy holds up his camera up at around 15:00 and u can see it... Is that a HD cam you think or DSLR? It has a big lens... what kind of cam is that? His picture quality is pretty good; I would be happy with that... What kind of cam is that?

This guy is using a Sony Handicam, and would likely run you in the same price range as a DSLR.

candyflip · 07-01-2013, 06:42 AM

Also, you're not going to be able to tell what editing software someone uses.

The big ones are:
Final Cut Pro
Avid Media Composer
Adobe Premiere

For color correction, I am learning Divinci Resolve...but usually just use Apple's stuff that's built right into FCPX.

Nasty · 07-01-2013, 07:39 AM

did some research last year for a client that wanted to do a youtube channel, contacted some people who had channels and asked what they used, posted questions on some of the marketing forums and found that several of them shoot with canon powershot's

facialfreak · 07-01-2013, 12:29 PM

Try something like a Canon Powershot SX-150is for decent quality YouTube videos

I own this camera, as well as a Rebel T3i ... and to be honest, I think the video quality from the Powershot is every bit as good as the Rebel ...

The Powershot SX-150is has the same Digic4 CMOS sensor as the pricier Rebel T3i and this is the main factor that is going to make your photo/video quality better than a smartphone ...

You can have a gazillion megapixels, and without a decent CMOS sensor, your images/videos will still be sub-par using a smartphone.

fuzebox · 07-01-2013, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch

Isn't iphone5 in HD though?

There is so much more to photography than megapixels, and so much more to videography than what resolution the encoded video is.

Electronics manufacturers spread so much misinformation...

If you shoot video with a DSLR, focus is going to become your next issue

MainstreamGuy · 07-01-2013, 02:23 PM

its all about the lighting, not the camera...

shes using those umbrellas with lights to get that quality.

Diomed · 07-01-2013, 04:56 PM

Bro,

all you need is a $350 canon vixia.

NaughtyRob · 07-01-2013, 05:10 PM

Its all about the lighting.

bausch · 07-01-2013, 05:14 PM

Thanks everyone for your input.. in regards to lighting i read that many use softbox etc... i have shaded lamps and one of those lantern lamps with a white paper around the bulb like this

...

and a smaller lamp shade lamp with a white shade.... i heard that people like to place the lamp to the left or right side but what about right behind the camera? I tried doing that (with the smaller lamp) and the picture turned out better i think... is it common to place lighting right behind the camera?

Can these lamps substitute for softbox? Can the bigger one (the one i posted above) be used as a "side" lamp for lighting and the smaller one right behind the camera? Or is there a better way to set it up?

fuzebox · 07-01-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch

Thanks everyone for your input.. in regards to lighting i read that many use softbox etc... i have shaded lamps and one of those lantern lamps with a white paper around the bulb like this

...

and a smaller lamp shade lamp with a white shade.... i heard that people like to place the lamp to the left or right side but what about right behind the camera? I tried doing that (with the smaller lamp) and the picture turned out better i think... is it common to place lighting right behind the camera?

Can these lamps substitute for softbox? Can the bigger one (the one i posted above) be used as a "side" lamp for lighting and the smaller one right behind the camera? Or is there a better way to set it up?

Are you trolling?

candyflip · 07-01-2013, 05:20 PM

You need three lights for a basic interview setup.

http://nofilmschool.com/2012/05/inte...s-thatll-kick/

bausch · 07-01-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Are you trolling?

Why would I? I am new at youtube vids and don't want to invest money in softbox etc at the beginning unless I get lots of subscribers. Why not use what I have at home? Most people are not recording/lighting experts. I don't need "tv quality" stuff, just stuff as good as I posted above and as good as what popular Youtubers like Jenna Marbles are using.

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Originally Posted by candyflip

You need three lights for a basic interview setup.

http://nofilmschool.com/2012/05/inte...s-thatll-kick/

Watching the vids there now.

candyflip · 07-01-2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch

Why would I? I am new at youtube vids and don't want to invest money in softbox etc at the beginning unless I get lots of subscribers. Why not use what I have at home? Most people are not recording/lighting experts. I don't need "tv quality" stuff, just stuff as good as I posted above and as good as what popular Youtubers like Jenna Marbles are using.

Watching the vids there now.

You can buy a basic 3 light kit for under $175.

You can get something nice for under $300:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-3...923586440.html

baddog · 07-01-2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Are you trolling?

You don't remember her?

fuzebox · 07-01-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You don't remember her?

Vaguely. All these names seem the same to me, this board has been nothing but nonsense the last few years.

baddog · 07-01-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Vaguely. All these names seem the same to me, this board has been nothing but nonsense the last few years.

She went through a phase of being our DVTimes of all things Paris Hilton or Britney Spears. She has some interesting (entertaining) threads if you did a search for ones she started.

06-30-2013, 05:01 PM	#1
bausch Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,017	What kind of video cam can record quality/crisp/colorful vids like this? It's for a Youtube channel but I don't have anyone to tape me so taping myself. Right now I'm using the Iphone 5 front facing camera which records in 720P. I know it's lower quality than using the regular (non front facing iphone cam) but my videos don't turn out the way I like them unless I use front facing. I find that the video quality is super grainy and pretty crappy even using natural sunlight.... Do you need DSLR in order to capture quality video like the ones below? Is there a significant difference between a SONY HD cam (non SLDR) but a reg HD cam versus Iphone5 cam using the front facing camera? I want crisp/clear picture like this.... The color on my vids don't look as saturated as these and grainier... Also any idea what program is being used to edit Lupe Fuente's vids? I use iphone 5 right now and my vids look nothing like these... at all... I never got results like these with my old Flicam either (supposedly 1080) but still looks grainy... what I am doing wrong? Do their vids look clearer due to post editing or something? Last edited by bausch; 06-30-2013 at 05:05 PM..

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,911	yuo don't need a dlsr to get that, just something better than a phone cam. look for maybe a jvc everio with full hd and also use a tripod to get crisp, clear and colorful.

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DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	There are Youtube channels where a lot of the professional Youtube guys discuss their gear and lighting. Many of them use a DSLR, but you don't need one to get good quality. I don't have any idea what those two videos were filmed with, but head over to Youtube and look around for channels where they share their tips. You can also bump up your saturation and fix your white balance in whatever editing software you use. Helps to start the shoot with a color card you can reference from, then use that to white balance in the software, then bump up the saturation a little to make it pop.

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,911	you really need to start with recording before you worry about editing. you are not going to be able to adjust jackshit in editing. you can bump saturation maybe 15%, but your colors and white balance had better be spot on recording, you don't get a redo in any video editor. oh i get it now, you are thinking you can still record on your iphone and fix it in editing, you can't.

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,911	you may also want to try the free trial of adobe premiere elements. it's has all the basics and you should be able to find your way around it enough to let it auto correct and you can then get a general idea of what an editor can do.

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,911	you can also check out the app store, maybe there is a free editor there and you can see on your phone, i'd google professional iphone videos or iphone music video etc i'm sure you can prolly squeak better quality with some tips but overall to make it easier on yourself, a dedicated camcorder does wonders.

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bausch Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,017	This guy holds up his camera up at around 15:00 and u can see it... Is that a HD cam you think or DSLR? It has a big lens... what kind of cam is that? His picture quality is pretty good; I would be happy with that... What kind of cam is that?

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bausch Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,017	Thanks everyone for your input.. in regards to lighting i read that many use softbox etc... i have shaded lamps and one of those lantern lamps with a white paper around the bulb like this ... and a smaller lamp shade lamp with a white shade.... i heard that people like to place the lamp to the left or right side but what about right behind the camera? I tried doing that (with the smaller lamp) and the picture turned out better i think... is it common to place lighting right behind the camera? Can these lamps substitute for softbox? Can the bigger one (the one i posted above) be used as a "side" lamp for lighting and the smaller one right behind the camera? Or is there a better way to set it up? Last edited by bausch; 07-01-2013 at 05:16 PM..

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