Quick Tip: Interstitial pages and DatingGold stats - GoFuckYourself.com

Tofu · 07-17-2013, 10:12 AM

Wikipedia accurately defines interstitial pages: "On the World Wide Web, interstitials are web pages displayed before or after an expected content page, often to display advertisements or confirm the user's age (prior to showing age-restricted material). Most interstitial advertisements are delivered by an ad server. Full-screen interstitial ads are referred to as hyperstitials."

These days, many people use interstitial pages to target and qualify their purchased traffic. Being that media buying is such a complex method of acquiring traffic, I will only focus on buying traffic for your DatingGold and WebcamClub campaigns. After you've bought (or built) your landing page for your campaign and went through the process of adding links to your "I agree" button, it is important to remember the many details that follow. First, you are likely hosting this webpage, yourself. With that, you must note how your stats will be counted. Your click-through process may look something like this:

1. User sees your ad.

2. User clicks your ad and lands on your landing page (Which is still not reflected on your DG stats, because it is being served from your server. Though the user is seeing your content, he/she has still not clicked any link that we are serving. Hence, The click is not counted in DG stats, yet..).

3. User fills out your questionnaire - if your interstitial uses one - and finally clicks your continue or agree button and through your script, lands on our join page (this is where your click is finally counted as 1 unique click, in your DG stats, under the heading of whichever program you are sending the user to).

4. If the user fills out the join form and clicks the submit button, 1 join is counted in your DG stats, as well as whichever external stats program you use.

5. After the join form is finished, the user is sent an email to confirm their email address. There is a confirm button or link in this email. Once the user clicks this
link, DG stats counts 1 lead.

6. If the user likes what they see, they'll purchase and the credit goes to your stats, as 1 sale.

Traffic networks will also have their own stats, to track impressions, clicks and clickthrough ratios. Some traffic networks offer tracking pixels to make tracking your campaign performance easier. It is also important to remember that these tracking pixels offered by traffic networks are not to be taken as gospel. There will sometimes be conversions that are not properly counted, for a variety of reasons. Therefore, it is a really good idea to cross-reference statistics on multiple levels. Use the network's stats, but also take advantage of using your own stats counter (Google Analytics is great tool for seeing how your traffic responds to your interstitial pages) and you will get a better idea of how many people are exiting your page vs. clicking through to our join pages. Some users click though to your landing page, but for whatever reason, decide not to fill out your/our form and go elsewhere. Follow these tips and you'll have an easier time tracking conversions and saving money on your traffic investment and hopefully, yielding better results on your DatingGold payouts! Good luck!

For more info and help on using interstitial pages, please contact your DatingGold Affiliate Specialist!

From: http://datinggoldblog.com

signupdamnit · 07-17-2013, 01:19 PM

Cool little mini tutorial and it's great that you guys share it. Your blog also looks great. I'd love to put up some interstitial ads on some sites of mine as they are perfect for it. These would be less annoying than popunders and perhaps far more effective too.

But for you guys I've been hearing bad things. The basics matter more than these tutorials and these fancy promos. I see reputable people talking about popunders on the signup forms and low hit counts and funny numbers. I can only be blunt about this because that is the only way I know how to talk. But come on guys. Whatever the hell is going on, fix it. Let's move forwards. You make money, we make money. There are thousands of affiliates out there looking to transition away from the failing paysite model. Give us a fair shake and we'll work with you and maybe we can help one another. The opportunity is there. All that is asked of you is honesty and a fair deal. Please show the big boss this message.

Tofu · 07-17-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Cool little mini tutorial and it's great that you guys share it. Your blog also looks great. I'd love to put up some interstitial ads on some sites of mine as they are perfect for it. These would be less annoying than popunders and perhaps far more effective too.

Thank you! I try to spread knowledge that will help affiliates make more money or help affiliates to better understand how things work, because (though we wish it were) everything in this game is not simply black & white.

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

But for you guys I've been hearing bad things. The basics matter more than these tutorials and these fancy promos. I see reputable people talking about popunders on the signup forms and low hit counts and funny numbers. I can only be blunt about this because that is the only way I know how to talk. But come on guys. Whatever the hell is going on, fix it. Let's move forwards. You make money, we make money. There are thousands of affiliates out there looking to transition away from the failing paysite model. Give us a fair shake and we'll work with you and maybe we can help one another. The opportunity is there. All that is asked of you is honesty and a fair deal. Please show the big boss this message.

I always appreciate your bluntness! So, please enlighten me! What IS going on? With all due respect, it always seems like you are trolling me in my DG threads. More often than not, you are in our threads, speaking for some mystery affiliate. You've heard this and people say that. As an address to heresy, I happily invite you to try our programs for yourself. I'll give you the absolute top payout, any landing pages or promo materials (if we don't have it, I'll have it built for you) and pixel placement for optimum tracking. If you find any of these accusations to be true, I will be in your thread, eating my hat. What is really funny, the people I do see badmouthing DG usually are those who sent 70 clicks in bot or incent traffic and still expect to get paid, even after breaking several rules in our terms. But, we take much of this on the chin. Few people know this.

There is a great difficulty in running 2 different pay per lead programs. We strive to be fair and just, while getting more scammers and rule-breakers than true, hardworking, honest affiliates. We encourage our affiliates to contact us for anything they need or do not need/want in their campaigns. We are very hands-on and ENCOURAGE people to reach out to us and ask for modifications. Everyone starts with the same basic setup, when they sign up for our program. That same setup cannot possibly work for every webmaster!

If you can, please tell me what is the total difficulty in our program? What are the rough spots we need to iron out in order to be a reputable company, in your eyes? Please don't take this as sarcasm. I would really love to know everything you think is wrong with DG, IN DETAIL. I'm asking because you are the most outspoken. You do not have to answer publicly, if you do not want. My email is below.

Thank you for your help! And I mean what I said about giving you the top tier payout!

.

signupdamnit · 07-17-2013, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tofu

Thank you! I try to spread knowledge that will help affiliates make more money or help affiliates to better understand how things work, because (though we wish it were) everything in this game is not simply black & white.

I always appreciate your bluntness! So, please enlighten me! What IS going on? With all due respect, it always seems like you are trolling me in my DG threads. More often than not, you are in our threads, speaking for some mystery affiliate. You've heard this and people say that. As an address to heresy, I happily invite you to try our programs for yourself. I'll give you the absolute top payout, any landing pages or promo materials (if we don't have it, I'll have it built for you) and pixel placement for optimum tracking. If you find any of these accusations to be true, I will be in your thread, eating my hat. What is really funny, the people I do see badmouthing DG usually are those who sent 70 clicks in bot or incent traffic and still expect to get paid, even after breaking several rules in our terms. But, we take much of this on the chin. Few people know this.

There is a great difficulty in running 2 different pay per lead programs. We strive to be fair and just, while getting more scammers and rule-breakers than true, hardworking, honest affiliates. We encourage our affiliates to contact us for anything they need or do not need/want in their campaigns. We are very hands-on and ENCOURAGE people to reach out to us and ask for modifications. Everyone starts with the same basic setup, when they sign up for our program. That same setup cannot possibly work for every webmaster!

If you can, please tell me what is the total difficulty in our program? What are the rough spots we need to iron out in order to be a reputable company, in your eyes? Please don't take this as sarcasm. I would really love to know everything you think is wrong with DG, IN DETAIL. I'm asking because you are the most outspoken. You do not have to answer publicly, if you do not want. My email is below.

Thank you for your help! And I mean what I said about giving you the top tier payout!

.

Tofu,

When I first hit reply the thread wasn't a sticky (now it's not again but it was earlier). I never would have posted that then if I saw it was a sticky.

I'm not near as bad as I think you see me. In fact I can't find the message after checking quickly but I remember complimenting you guys once publicly here because at the time you converted well for me. One of you -- maybe it was Javis even acknowledged it and stated that you appreciated the compliment because "I usually speak my mind". Well that goes both ways. If it didn't then that wouldn't be true would it?

I've given you guys constructive criticism in the past and was respectful about it:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayvis

We are also interested in bringing back old affiliates that promoted us months ago and then stopped for whatever reason...

12-28-2010

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Originally Posted by singupdamnit

Affiliates usually stop promoting a program for good reason. The best way to keep receiving traffic from affiliates over the long term is to always run an honest high converting program for all of your affiliates. The whales may be nice for the short term but they can be easily enticed to go elsewhere and often do. Or perhaps become too expensive to keep.

Affiliate 1- $10,000 a month * 6 months = $60,000
Affiliate 2- $10,000 a year * 10 years = $100,000

Which affiliate really was a better one to have? Now add 100 - 1000 more affiliate #2's (which are far easier to find than Affiliate #1) and what do you get? Sometimes it seems as if some programs don't understand basic business principles. It pays to respect all of your affiliates at all times. FWIW, there's one program I promoted for 12 years. They never gave me any reason until recently not to promote them.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17804827&postcount=21

I think where we really went wrong is after I heard about this popunder and I mention that in my other message above too.

11-17-2012

"Anybody want to see stats from one of my top dating affiliates? [Pic] " By Jayvis

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Get rid of the console people were talking about a few weeks ago. It's hard to take a program seriously when they pop consoles to other products which they do not pay on. If you want to do that start paying per impression or unique. Otherwise it's hard to trust any of your programs or anything which you say. Just the way it is.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19318228&postcount=21

"datinggold links has popups now??"
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1087427

There is more I could say but the above should be enough for now. I'll only say a little more. I think you should see what I said here on 10-28-2010 and your company should take it to heart. It's up to you guys how you want to do business but it's just a suggestion.

The higher payout doesn't mean anything to me at all. Do you still have the popunder? If so get rid of it on your affiliate traffic. That would mean a lot more to me. Then I'll wait a couple months and see what others are saying about you and I might give you a shot again.

TurboAngel · 07-18-2013, 12:07 PM

Some great info!

07-17-2013, 10:12 AM	#1
Tofu The Video Specialist Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: California Posts: 5,615	Quick Tip: Interstitial pages and DatingGold stats Wikipedia accurately defines interstitial pages: "On the World Wide Web, interstitials are web pages displayed before or after an expected content page, often to display advertisements or confirm the user's age (prior to showing age-restricted material). Most interstitial advertisements are delivered by an ad server. Full-screen interstitial ads are referred to as hyperstitials." These days, many people use interstitial pages to target and qualify their purchased traffic. Being that media buying is such a complex method of acquiring traffic, I will only focus on buying traffic for your DatingGold and WebcamClub campaigns. After you've bought (or built) your landing page for your campaign and went through the process of adding links to your "I agree" button, it is important to remember the many details that follow. First, you are likely hosting this webpage, yourself. With that, you must note how your stats will be counted. Your click-through process may look something like this: 1. User sees your ad. 2. User clicks your ad and lands on your landing page (Which is still not reflected on your DG stats, because it is being served from your server. Though the user is seeing your content, he/she has still not clicked any link that we are serving. Hence, The click is not counted in DG stats, yet..). 3. User fills out your questionnaire - if your interstitial uses one - and finally clicks your continue or agree button and through your script, lands on our join page (this is where your click is finally counted as 1 unique click, in your DG stats, under the heading of whichever program you are sending the user to). 4. If the user fills out the join form and clicks the submit button, 1 join is counted in your DG stats, as well as whichever external stats program you use. 5. After the join form is finished, the user is sent an email to confirm their email address. There is a confirm button or link in this email. Once the user clicks this link, DG stats counts 1 lead. 6. If the user likes what they see, they'll purchase and the credit goes to your stats, as 1 sale. Traffic networks will also have their own stats, to track impressions, clicks and clickthrough ratios. Some traffic networks offer tracking pixels to make tracking your campaign performance easier. It is also important to remember that these tracking pixels offered by traffic networks are not to be taken as gospel. There will sometimes be conversions that are not properly counted, for a variety of reasons. Therefore, it is a really good idea to cross-reference statistics on multiple levels. Use the network's stats, but also take advantage of using your own stats counter (Google Analytics is great tool for seeing how your traffic responds to your interstitial pages) and you will get a better idea of how many people are exiting your page vs. clicking through to our join pages. Some users click though to your landing page, but for whatever reason, decide not to fill out your/our form and go elsewhere. Follow these tips and you'll have an easier time tracking conversions and saving money on your traffic investment and hopefully, yielding better results on your DatingGold payouts! Good luck! For more info and help on using interstitial pages, please contact your DatingGold Affiliate Specialist! From: http://datinggoldblog.com __________________ tofu916 video services - tofu916.com twitter: tofu916 \| skype: tofu916 \| tel: 916-672-TOFU \| e: tofu # tofu916.com

07-17-2013, 01:19 PM	#2
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	Cool little mini tutorial and it's great that you guys share it. Your blog also looks great. I'd love to put up some interstitial ads on some sites of mine as they are perfect for it. These would be less annoying than popunders and perhaps far more effective too. But for you guys I've been hearing bad things. The basics matter more than these tutorials and these fancy promos. I see reputable people talking about popunders on the signup forms and low hit counts and funny numbers. I can only be blunt about this because that is the only way I know how to talk. But come on guys. Whatever the hell is going on, fix it. Let's move forwards. You make money, we make money. There are thousands of affiliates out there looking to transition away from the failing paysite model. Give us a fair shake and we'll work with you and maybe we can help one another. The opportunity is there. All that is asked of you is honesty and a fair deal. Please show the big boss this message. __________________ You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

07-18-2013, 12:07 PM	#5
TurboAngel H.B.I.C. Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NC Posts: 30,122	Some great info!