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Old 07-30-2013, 12:25 PM   #1
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What's up with the homophobia, Russia?

First they overwhelmingly pass this broad "Anti Gay-Propaganda" law last month (mirroring many others passed on local levels), followed by homophobic violence against gay protesters:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/12/wo...sexuality.html

Then you have calls from Russian lawmakers to actually enforce this law against foreign gay athletes during the upcoming Sochi Winter Olympics:

http://news.msn.com/world/russia-ant...sochi-olympics

Just seems to go against the grain of increasing tolerance & understanding elsewhere, any Russian members care to weigh in on where this is coming from?
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Old 07-30-2013, 12:28 PM   #2
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ruh roh, i hope snowden is not teh gay.
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Saw a story where there is a growing global movement where gay bars are boycotting Russian vodka. It would be nice to see other industries similarly expressing their displeasure.
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Old 07-30-2013, 12:32 PM   #4
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ruh roh, i hope snowden is not teh gay.
Ah yes, I think it's well established he's straight?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-caved-in.html
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Its always funny to see when an american is worried about "homophobia" and "human rights".So,how is Guantanamo,and murdering children and women in Iraq or Afghanistan working out for ya ?
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Ah yes, I think it's well established he's straight?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-caved-in.html
i was being my usual snarky self by pointing out that the human rights violations leaker hero is seeking asylum from the big bad usa in russia.
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Its always funny to see when an american is worried about "homophobia" and "human rights".So,how is Guantanamo,and murdering children and women in Iraq or Afghanistan working out for ya ?
are you asking me? i have yet to do those things, hadn't considered adding those to my bucket list either, should i?
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Its always funny to see when an american is worried about "homophobia" and "human rights".So,how is Guantanamo,and murdering children and women in Iraq or Afghanistan working out for ya ?
It's always funny to see some douchebags on a forum. Thanks for being part of GFY.
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the whole gay rights issue is bullshit...fucking be gay and enjoy it and fucking keep it to yourself IMO....why should you openly be gay and ask others to accept it? who gives a fuck what you like to fuck?...seriously....there is no such thing as gay marriage LOL you cant fucking call it that because it was ment for men and women...not men and men...it simply isnt marriage like trannies are not girls or "ladyboys" they are gays with implants...

the gay community is bringing the hate upon itself for being pushy with their stupid shit like the muslims are with their imaginary friends in the sky...

freaks should not bother normal people with their irrelevant stupid shit...this is the point that is being put forth in russia..."fucking deal with your gayness at home bitches" we have a country to run and REAL problems...

the world is becoming too tolerant and normal people are suffering because "alternative lifestyle" people need their bitch asses reassured or what ever the fuck...

str8 people have the full right to not give a shit about gay shit...well done russian government! go putin!



and no I am not homofobic...just pointing out how gay men need to leave their skirt at home sometimes and fuck off with the entitlement bullshit because they are "Special" because their anus is a 2 way street pffffffft fucking gay as fuck...
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Its always funny to see when an american is worried about "homophobia" and "human rights".So,how is Guantanamo,and murdering children and women in Iraq or Afghanistan working out for ya ?
Its always funny to see when a troll is worried about what one poster's country does, but is too chicken shit to identify their own nationality.
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It's always funny to see some douchebags on a forum. Thanks for being part of GFY.
Care to explain the "douchebag" part?Or are you just another 80 iq idiot thowing insults?
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the whole gay rights issue is bullshit...fucking be gay and enjoy it and fucking keep it to yourself IMO....why should you openly be gay and ask others to accept it? who gives a fuck what you like to fuck?...seriously....there is no such thing as gay marriage LOL you cant fucking call it that because it was ment for men and women...not men and men...it simply isnt marriage like trannies are not girls or "ladyboys" they are gays with implants...

the gay community is bringing the hate upon itself for being pushy with their stupid shit like the muslims are with their imaginary friends in the sky...

freaks should not bother normal people with their irrelevant stupid shit...this is the point that is being put forth in russia..."fucking deal with your gayness at home bitches" we have a country to run and REAL problems...

the world is becoming too tolerant and normal people are suffering because "alternative lifestyle" people need their bitch asses reassured or what ever the fuck...

str8 people have the full right to not give a shit about gay shit...well done russian government! go putin!



and no I am not homofobic...just pointing out how gay men need to leave their skirt at home sometimes and fuck off with the entitlement bullshit because they are "Special" because their anus is a 2 way street pffffffft fucking gay as fuck...
whoa!!! totally NON PC
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Its always funny to see when an american is worried about "homophobia" and "human rights".So,how is Guantanamo,and murdering children and women in Iraq or Afghanistan working out for ya ?
Oh shit, ya got me there! Because I'm just 100% in favor of Guantanamo, Iraq, & Aghanistan like all Americans.

But to dignify your post with a serious response - I'm actually very interested in Russian culture and am genuinely curious what the dynamic is there on this subject right now.
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Then you have calls from Russian lawmakers to actually enforce this law against foreign gay athletes during the upcoming Sochi Winter Olympics:

http://news.msn.com/world/russia-ant...sochi-olympics
crazy about Sochi.. i was hearing people talk about having gay athletes boycott russia/games

now it appears they'll have no choice
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maybe you should ask your question on masterx forum and in cyrillic since 99% of russians cant read english ... just sayin'
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Putin likes the cock. Hence all the photo ops of him being a manly man. Seems those who scream loudest, hate, or try to distance themselves the most, usually have something to hide
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the whole gay rights issue is bullshit...fucking be gay and enjoy it and fucking keep it to yourself IMO....why should you openly be gay and ask others to accept it? who gives a fuck what you like to fuck?...seriously....there is no such thing as gay marriage LOL you cant fucking call it that because it was ment for men and women...not men and men...it simply isnt marriage like trannies are not girls or "ladyboys" they are gays with implants...

the gay community is bringing the hate upon itself for being pushy with their stupid shit like the muslims are with their imaginary friends in the sky...

freaks should not bother normal people with their irrelevant stupid shit...this is the point that is being put forth in russia..."fucking deal with your gayness at home bitches" we have a country to run and REAL problems...

the world is becoming too tolerant and normal people are suffering because "alternative lifestyle" people need their bitch asses reassured or what ever the fuck...

str8 people have the full right to not give a shit about gay shit...well done russian government! go putin!



and no I am not homofobic...just pointing out how gay men need to leave their skirt at home sometimes and fuck off with the entitlement bullshit because they are "Special" because their anus is a 2 way street pffffffft fucking gay as fuck...
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the whole gay rights issue is bullshit...fucking be gay and enjoy it and fucking keep it to yourself IMO....why should you openly be gay and ask others to accept it? who gives a fuck what you like to fuck?...seriously....there is no such thing as gay marriage LOL you cant fucking call it that because it was ment for men and women...not men and men...it simply isnt marriage like trannies are not girls or "ladyboys" they are gays with implants...

the gay community is bringing the hate upon itself for being pushy with their stupid shit like the muslims are with their imaginary friends in the sky...

freaks should not bother normal people with their irrelevant stupid shit...this is the point that is being put forth in russia..."fucking deal with your gayness at home bitches" we have a country to run and REAL problems...

the world is becoming too tolerant and normal people are suffering because "alternative lifestyle" people need their bitch asses reassured or what ever the fuck...

str8 people have the full right to not give a shit about gay shit...well done russian government! go putin!



and no I am not homofobic...just pointing out how gay men need to leave their skirt at home sometimes and fuck off with the entitlement bullshit because they are "Special" because their anus is a 2 way street pffffffft fucking gay as fuck...
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the whole gay rights issue is bullshit...fucking be gay and enjoy it and fucking keep it to yourself IMO....why should you openly be gay and ask others to accept it? who gives a fuck what you like to fuck?...seriously....there is no such thing as gay marriage LOL you cant fucking call it that because it was ment for men and women...not men and men...it simply isnt marriage like trannies are not girls or "ladyboys" they are gays with implants....
Well said. Gays have all the rights, so there is no need for gay right movements and fucking parades.
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crazy about Sochi.. i was hearing people talk about having gay athletes boycott russia/games

now it appears they'll have no choice
Wtf are you talking about? Nobody is going to fine gays just because they are gay. Its about promoting it and shit like that.
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LOL, why do I even bother trying to have an actual discussion here...
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Wtf are you talking about? Nobody is going to fine gays just because they are gay. Its about promoting it and shit like that.
And by promoting it, you mean holding hands? Because that's what it actually means.

Reports of arrest for kissing or hold hands, wearing or using rainbows, or pro-gay activism have helped to clarify the definition of “propaganda” as “any statement, oral or otherwise, that is pro-gay.”

It is now illegal to even admit homosexuality in public. It is also illegal to equate the value of homosexual relationships with that of heterosexual relationships, and punishment does not apply solely to Russians.

Foreigners can be arrested and detained for up to 15 days, fined and deported.
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Saw a story where there is a growing global movement where gay bars are boycotting Russian vodka. It would be nice to see other industries similarly expressing their displeasure.

I'm Russian/Ukranian myself and immigrated to Vancouver when I was a kid.

Hate to see this is happening, but I don't see Putin budging with his decision.

I know most owners of Russian and Ukranian restaurants/stores here in Vancouver and looks like their business is as good as usual. Nothing really changed as much. It's mostly affecting Importers of Russian Vodka (since lots of bars - NOT all, but some) stopped serving any russian vodka. They just stock Russian vodka in the backroom - Since they don't wanna pour it out wasting their $$$.

We got pride week here in Vancouver...I wanna see how far this goes and what the media will say...
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And by promoting it, you mean holding hands? Because that's what it actually means.

Reports of arrest for kissing or hold hands, wearing or using rainbows, or pro-gay activism have helped to clarify the definition of ?propaganda? as ?any statement, oral or otherwise, that is pro-gay.?

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So athletes would not go to olympics because they won't be able to hold hands in public?
Seems like a legit reason.
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Wtf are you talking about? Nobody is going to fine gays just because they are gay. Its about promoting it and shit like that.
apparently shit you didn't bother reading.
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So athletes would not go to olympics because they won't be able to hold hands in public?
Seems like a legit reason.
I'm guessing you've never seen an athlete go over to their spouse and kiss them after a race? Or get at least a 'well done' hug? We're not talking about gay pride parades or any form of 'in your face' homosexuality. This is what any heterosexual couple would do.
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I'm guessing you've never seen an athlete go over to their spouse and kiss them after a race? Or get at least a 'well done' hug? We're not talking about gay pride parades or any form of 'in your face' homosexuality. This is what any heterosexual couple would do.
No need to exaggerate, nothing would happen after a "well done" hug

And if I was an athlete and I would be informed that I could not kiss my wife in public in certain country I would think - "not cool, but no problem". I won't even start considering not participating in the event (especially as big as olympics) because of that, lol.

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I will never buy a Russian car now.


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whoa!!! totally NON PC
but it is bullshit...its like asking special rights for "lord chutullu" followers...gay rights are a farse...you do not need "rights" to be a butty boy...just get on with it and do not impose your views upon others if you expect others to leave you the fuck alone.....

russia made a good move and shut these self entitled idiots the fuck up for the next 100 years banning their false parade...next they will be asking for rights for a man to marry a sheep ...fucking get over it: gays can not marry AND be taken seriously

Its like asking a person to respect your marriage to a sheep...I am not being a 3rd world rube about it...I am just saying it as it is...the gay community needs to fucking get over it and quit bitching for "special rights"...

next thing you know the "ancient astronaut" idiots will be asking for history books to be changed to suit their agenda and gays will ask for special education about "gayness" and muslims will ask for "rammadan fasting to be respected by christians" and fucking justin bieber "beliebers" will be asking for selena gomez DVDs to be mandatory material in schools ect ect

we, the normal people, do not want fag shit to be imposed by force, nor religious BULLSHIT about imaginary friends in the sky or any other ideas...beat yourself unconscious with a bible to the head and take 3 gay dicks up your gay ass, just dont ask normal people to actually respect it because its insulting to the intelligence and that is not PC either

russia has shown us the way
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Dude. You are like a caricature of the "I'm not an ignorant bigot, buuut....." type ignorant bigot - you hit on all the usual talking points with just the right amount of frothing anger - except I suspect you're being totally serious.
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really wish i had the time to find the pick of the 'gay man' being swarmed by a bunch of homophobe bashers

and then that same man being tended to by his very-female girlfriend.

can't get much more ironic than that.
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Old 07-31-2013, 03:49 AM   #35
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Dude. You are like a caricature of the "I'm not an ignorant bigot, buuut....." type ignorant bigot - you hit on all the usual talking points with just the right amount of frothing anger - except I suspect you're being totally serious.
why should I not be serious?

normal people have the right to be grossed out by gayness, laugh at imaginary friends in the sky theories, laugh at ancient astronaut theories, laugh at UFO bullshit,mock the bible/quran ect ect...normal people have the RIGHT to an opinion

gay people ask for tolerance? well they should be tolerant in the first place ....the gay community is being very disrespectful towards the str8 MAJORITY on this fucking planet demanding that we take their "Gayness" as "politically correct" and "normal" try to not puke while some gays scream for attention and gross us normal people out...

NEWSFLASH: ***most normal people find it disgusting *** because motherfucker: it AINT normal and you know it

deal with it, get over it ect...just the way it is...WE the str8 community, for the most part, will ALWAYS find you ridiculous and gross and disgusting....we may not openly show animosity towards you, we may be kind and considerate, but gays gross us out...

gays have every legal right to live,breathe,get a job, be protected by the law...but asking for EXTRA rights is just the gay community being a complete fag about it all....

look I like black women with big fake titties and i like em slutty...but I do not go marching down the street asking for "3rd world pimp rights"...I just get on with my shit and do not ask for fucking hand-outs like some fucking beggar...I certainly do not make it a "politically correct or incorrect" issue like the attention whore butty boys...

the fucking line has to be drawn and russia fucking showed us the way


I think russia really did the right thing in throwing this stupid shit off the table and concentrating on real politics...gayness should be banned as an issue from politics...so should religion...gay and religuous people should learn to be tolerant and spare us normal people their bullshit
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Old 07-31-2013, 04:59 AM   #36
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maybe you should ask your question on masterx forum and in cyrillic since 99% of russians cant read english ... just sayin'
but 99% of Americans can't type in cyrillic...
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Old 07-31-2013, 05:21 AM   #38
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It isn't gay people who are influential in pushing for change in the West. Many prominent politicians are gay but prefer to keep it private. And gay people "on the ground" do not have the political clout to be able to shift policy and public opinion by themselves.

Russia doesn't do "minority rule", or enablement of special interest groups. You'd need sweeping changes in the corridors of power, and in media ownership for that to happen.
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but it is bullshit...its like asking special rights for "lord chutullu" followers...gay rights are a farse...you do not need "rights" to be a butty boy...just get on with it and do not impose your views upon others if you expect others to leave you the fuck alone.....

russia made a good move and shut these self entitled idiots the fuck up for the next 100 years banning their false parade...next they will be asking for rights for a man to marry a sheep ...fucking get over it: gays can not marry AND be taken seriously

Its like asking a person to respect your marriage to a sheep...I am not being a 3rd world rube about it...I am just saying it as it is...the gay community needs to fucking get over it and quit bitching for "special rights"...

next thing you know the "ancient astronaut" idiots will be asking for history books to be changed to suit their agenda and gays will ask for special education about "gayness" and muslims will ask for "rammadan fasting to be respected by christians" and fucking justin bieber "beliebers" will be asking for selena gomez DVDs to be mandatory material in schools ect ect

we, the normal people, do not want fag shit to be imposed by force, nor religious BULLSHIT about imaginary friends in the sky or any other ideas...beat yourself unconscious with a bible to the head and take 3 gay dicks up your gay ass, just dont ask normal people to actually respect it because its insulting to the intelligence and that is not PC either

russia has shown us the way
you're so right. the world is a better place when we can shame people and drag them out in the street and kill them for being different.
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Saw a story where there is a growing global movement where gay bars are boycotting Russian vodka. It would be nice to see other industries similarly expressing their displeasure.
very good news for all naturals!







translate : I do not drink vodka with gays!

and yes, I'm homophob
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It woulod be fuckimng brillinet haveing a party with some drunk russians
Then you need some drugs to get high. They are not drunk at all.
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but 99% of americans can't type in cyrillic...
Здравствуй, дорогой друг
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They're just in the closet. Trying to act like they're not gay.
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you're so right. the world is a better place when we can shame people and drag them out in the street and kill them for being different.
where exactly did I say I support violence against anybody? oh right! I didnt

but do not let that stand in your way of posting this anyway
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where exactly did I say I support violence against anybody? oh right! I didnt

but do not let that stand in your way of posting this anyway
think it's more the 'general idea'.

So while you might not support violence, the guys you speak to about how the 'gays are showing off their personalities', might.

So, you have acceptance of violence at a society level, simply because 'you' feel people of your own country don't have the same rights and privileges as you do.

Which is silly. if push came to shove, you'd be shoulder to shoulder with these peeps.
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think it's more the 'general idea'.

So while you might not support violence, the guys you speak to about how the 'gays are showing off their personalities', might.

So, you have acceptance of violence at a society level, simply because 'you' feel people of your own country don't have the same rights and privileges as you do.

Which is silly. if push came to shove, you'd be shoulder to shoulder with these peeps.
you are just jumping to random conclusions...

you can debate it until you are blue in the face but most normal people find it utterly disgusting...gay people know this all too well...

I honestly feel that normal people should stop trying to comply and adapt to assholes who do not want to adapt back...gays are intolerant pricks too...they know fully well they gross most people out on the street and do not give 2 fucks...why in the world should they then expect normal people to give a fuck back about them?

it is the gays who are bringing it to the table, asking for hand outs based just on the fact that they are buttyboys, parading their perversion (yes I used the word perversion because that is exactly what it is), and in general, trolling the normal people with their exibitionist bullshit...

look if its as if you were to take your family and kids to the park and see me with 2 black prostitutes with big fake titties dressed up like complete whores...you could argue that I have every legal right, as I do, but the truth is: -i am being a careless, rude, intolerant prick by ruining your family day with my pimp bullshit...I am injecting my pimp bullshit in to your day and calling it a "right"...

If i can be a pimp at home, and bother nobody, and be tolerant of normal people and act accordingly in public, then so can the butt pirates
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you are just jumping to random conclusions...

you can debate it until you are blue in the face but most normal people find it utterly disgusting...gay people know this all too well...

I honestly feel that normal people should stop trying to comply and adapt to assholes who do not want to adapt back...gays are intolerant pricks too...they know fully well they gross most people out on the street and do not give 2 fucks...why in the world should they then expect normal people to give a fuck back about them?

it is the gays who are bringing it to the table, asking for hand outs based just on the fact that they are buttyboys, parading their perversion (yes I used the word perversion because that is exactly what it is), and in general, trolling the normal people with their exibitionist bullshit...

look if its as if you were to take your family and kids to the park and see me with 2 black prostitutes with big fake titties dressed up like complete whores...you could argue that I have every legal right, as I do, but the truth is: -i am being a careless, rude, intolerant prick by ruining your family day with my pimp bullshit...I am injecting my pimp bullshit in to your day and calling it a "right"...

If i can be a pimp at home, and bother nobody, and be tolerant of normal people and act accordingly in public, then so can the butt pirates
You realize the adult industry is supposed to welcome people from all sexual orientations right?
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Go, translate it ;)
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alcohol in russia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Po...ussia_2009.PNG

it works well...
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