Snowden got the most severe punishment for treason

[just a punk]

... he have to live in Russia for at least a year.

P.S. Poor boy

[ZiggiZiggiCrew]

понаехали, сцуко...то Депердье, теперя Сноуден...

[edgeprod]

That WOULD be torture. Stuck in an airport, unable to experience the amazing night life, good vodka, and amazing women right outside.

[Rochard]

I am stunned he hasn't been knocked off yet. Seriously. He is a rogue NSA employee with our nation's secrets in his briefcase.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I am stunned he hasn't been knocked off yet. Seriously. He is a rogue NSA employee with our nation's secrets in his briefcase.

And a house hold name. Give it some time.

he is going to get sick and die in the near future and it will be a foreign doctor that says what he got that killed him.

[RandyRandy]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

That WOULD be torture. Stuck in an airport, unable to experience the amazing night life, good vodka, and amazing women right outside.

Except that he is no longer stuck in the airport and he is able to experience all the great things that Moscow has to offer. I hope he has a great time, for a long time.

[- Jesus Christ -]

Anyone asserting that he is going to die is a castrated slave justifying their OWN cowardly inaction agasint authoritarianism.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I am stunned he hasn't been knocked off yet. Seriously. He is a rogue NSA employee with our nation's secrets in his briefcase.

talking about chemtrails..

[- Jesus Christ -]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

talking about chemtrails..

There is no reliable source (that i can find) reporting that Snowden is talking about chemtrails.


Would be a good attempt to discredit him though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

[Jman]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I am stunned he hasn't been knocked off yet. Seriously. He is a rogue NSA employee with our nation's secrets in his briefcase.

He's old news now, they are to busy looking for pressure cookers across Merica!!!!

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

There is no reliable source (that i can find) reporting that Snowden is talking about chemtrails.


Would be a good attempt to discredit him though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

or possibly the paper just making shit up, but they're still running the story

[- Jesus Christ -]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

or possibly the paper just making shit up, but they're still running the story

As far as I can tell the original source is...

http://www.chronicle.su/news/snowden...nd-chemtrails/

It's clearly a spoof site like the onion. Their current headline is "Justin Bieber: Anonymous Psyop Shill".

[DWB]

Some guys have all the luck.

[sandman!]

in a airport being watched by a ton of security ? there is no way to kill him right now.

Originally Posted by Rochard

I am stunned he hasn't been knocked off yet. Seriously. He is a rogue NSA employee with our nation's secrets in his briefcase.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I am stunned he hasn't been knocked off yet. Seriously. He is a rogue NSA employee with our nation's secrets in his briefcase.

He is an employee who got sick of the spy games and severe privacy invasions on citizens. He stood up for the rights of the people. He should have a Nobel peace prize and be honored throughout the US and the world.

Instead the US government wants him detained. Says enough about which side you as a citizen should be choosing.

[dyna mo]

instead of being what he claims he is, a human rights activist, snowden cowardly used the bulk of what he stole as a bargaining chip to allow him to be granted asylum in the human rights capital of the world- russia.


that's not hero behavior. that's a jackass.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by RandyRandy

Except that he is no longer stuck in the airport and he is able to experience all the great things that Moscow has to offer. I hope he has a great time, for a long time.

Hope he has some money to afford those great things that Moscow has to offer

[Klen]

What's wrong with Moscow,Moscow is awesome city to live.Only reason why i wouldn't go there is crazy weather,but hey if i would have good offer i would definitely go.

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

instead of being what he claims he is, a human rights activist, snowden cowardly used the bulk of what he stole as a bargaining chip to allow him to be granted asylum in the human rights capital of the world- russia.


that's not hero behavior. that's a jackass.

so what have you done lately to promote government transparency, privacy rights, & human rights?

nothing?

oh.

[- Jesus Christ -]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

used the bulk of what he stole as a bargaining chip

Yea... to keep himself from being locked in a cell naked for months on end (TORTURE) like bradley manning or the kid who made a joke in league of legends.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by trevesty

so what have you done lately to promote government transparency, privacy rights, & human rights?

nothing?

oh.

this is not about me, dumbass, i didn't rip a bunch of documents and claim i'm a human rights activists claiming all sorts of proof of abuses while i keep most of those docs to myself.

but since you are trying to make it about me, i'll clear that up for you-

i can think in complex terms, i can separate the act of espionage from the data *revealed*.
those are 2 separate events and should be treated as such, you are not old enough or smart enough to sort that out for yourself so you go with what the media tells you, that's cool, just don't try and switch that lack of understanding around to me.

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

Yea... to keep himself from being locked in a cell naked for months on end (TORTURE) like bradley manning or the kid who made a joke in league of legends.

you mean like thomas drake, the nsa leaker who stole documents and had the courage to stand behind his actions.

you mean this guy right?

Thomas Andrews Drake (born 1957) is a former senior executive of the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), a decorated United States Air Force and United States Navy veteran, and a whistleblower. In 2010 the government alleged that Drake 'mishandled' documents, one of the few such Espionage Act cases in U.S. history. Drake's defenders claim that he was instead being persecuted for challenging the Trailblazer Project.
He is the 2011 recipient of the Ridenhour Prize for Truth-Telling and co-recipient of the Sam Adams Associates for Integrity in Intelligence (SAAII) award.


On June 9, 2011, all 10 original charges against him were dropped. Drake rejected several deals because he refused to "plea bargain with the truth". He eventually pled to one misdemeanor count for exceeding authorized use of a computer;[10] Jesselyn Radack of the Government Accountability Project, who helped represent him, called it an act of "civil disobedience."

[- Jesus Christ -]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you mean like thomas drake, the nsa leaker who stole documents and had the courage to stand behind his actions, i.e., more in common with snowden than manning, who was military and had the military system handle that during war time.

you mean this guy right?

So whistle blowers are suppose to turn themselves in and HOPE uncle sam is feeling generous and doesn't assfuck them?

nigga please

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

So whistle blowers are suppose to turn themselves in and HOPE uncle sam is feeling generous and doesn't assfuck them?

nigga please

he's not a whistle blower.

i don't give a fuck what he's *supposed* to do. i didn't come up with this brilliant plan that has revealed jack fucking illegal shit.

either way, the fact remains, a precedent has been set and established. you can either acknowledge that or keep your head in the sand. i could not care less, you took issue with my view, not vice-versa.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

What's wrong with Moscow,Moscow is awesome city to live.Only reason why i wouldn't go there is crazy weather,but hey if i would have good offer i would definitely go.

Yep, there is a ton of expats who came here from the US and the EU for work/money and then deiced to stay here permanently

[- Jesus Christ -]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

a precedent has been set and established

The precedent is fat 19 year old kids who tell violent jokes on LoL get stripped naked and locked in a cell after being beaten by other inmates.
Who's head is in the sand about the US legal system?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

The precedent is fat 19 year old kids who tell jokes on LoL get stripped naked and locked in a cell after being beaten by other inmates. Who's head is in the sand and bout the US legal system?

do you not know the difference between the military judicial system and the public us legal system?

[- Jesus Christ -]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

do you not know the difference between the military judicial system and the public one?

Are you seriously implying the military judicial system is LESS strict?

[dyna mo]

are you not aware that when you voluntarily join the military you voluntarily sign a document that removes your rights as a citizen and you agree to the military court of law?

you don't know that do you.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

Are you seriously implying the military judicial system is LESS strict?

huh? are you not aware snowden is a civilian? the nsa is not military, you know that right?

certainly you can't be taking issue with my view and not have a basic understanding of the topic.
wait, this is gfy.

[- Jesus Christ -]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

are you not aware that when you voluntarily join the military you voluntarily sign a document that removes your rights as a citizen and you agree to the military court of law?

you don't know that do you.

Way to divert attention from your original implication about military justice being less severe.
You want people like Snowden to GAMBLE their lives on what the government decides to charge them with.

That would be ridiculously stupid.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

Way to divert attention from your original implication about military justice being less severe.
You want people like Snowden to GAMBLE their lives on what the government decides to charge them with.

That would be ridiculously stupid.

again, huh? i never implied that. i never implied anything.

again, snowden is civilian, manning was military. snowden is not charged with military crimes, is not in and never was in the military and therefor cannot be charged with any crimes by the military which is exactly my point and why his case has everything in common with drake and nothign in common with manning

you did see the post above stating all the awards drake has won, in addition to not being found guilty of espionage.

either way, you won't be able to admit that fact so continue spinning my comments 180 degrees.

[- Jesus Christ -]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

again, huh? i never implied that. i never implied anything.

again, snowden is civilian, manning was military. snowden is not charged with military crimes, is not in and never was in the military and therefor cannot be charged with any crimes by the military which is exactly my point and why his case has everything in common with drake and nothign in common with manning

you did see the post above stating all the awards drake has won, in addition to not being found guilty of espionage.

either way, you won't be able to admit that fact so continue spinning my comments 180 degrees.

There's a reason a few posts ago I mentioned a CIVILIAN (the LoL kid) and a MILITARY (manning) case precisely to demonstrate that "suicide watch" (torture) occurred in both cases.

You're guilty of all the things you keep accusing me of.

[seeandsee]

russia and american partners approve this

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

There's a reason a few posts ago I mentioned a CIVILIAN (the LoL kid) and a MILITARY (manning) case precisely to demonstrate that "suicide watch" (torture) occurred in both cases.

You're guilty of all the things you keep accusing me of.

umm, you took issue with my view, i'm not guilty of anthing other than reiterating my original view, which is the fact that thomas drake was found not guilty and has received accolades for his actions, you continue to refuse to acknowledge that, i wonder why.

some kid making comments about killing babies on a video game is not even in the same ballpark as espionage.

[ThunderBalls]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

instead of being what he claims he is, a human rights activist, snowden cowardly used the bulk of what he stole as a bargaining chip to allow him to be granted asylum in the human rights capital of the world- russia.


that's not hero behavior. that's a jackass.

Right. How dare he tell the American people our government is spying on us?? What a jackass!

[- Jesus Christ -]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

thomas drake was found not guilty and has received accolades for his actions, you continue to refuse to acknowledge that

I did, I said it was STUPID to gamble on that happening.

[dyna mo]

the funniest part of you snowden sympathizers is he revealed absolutely nothing that has changed anything or that was not already known. yet he's your hero and you'll cling to some uneducated view of history to keep sucking your hero dick so you make this about my view.

that's funny.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

Right. How dare he tell the American people our government is spying on us?? What a jackass!

that was already old news. you might want to pay more attention to current events, maybe even a little history.

[dyna mo]

couple of y'all should apply for snoop jobs at nsa, you'll fit right in.

[ThunderBalls]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

that was already old news. you might want to pay more attention to current events, maybe even a little history.

STFU up you Nazi loving ass licking trolling board whore.

[dyna mo]

this is why i admire thomas drake and why snowden is a hypocritical coward:::::

On June 9, 2011, all 10 original charges against him were dropped. Drake rejected several deals because he refused to "plea bargain with the truth".

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by ThunderBalls

STFU up you Nazi loving ass licking trolling board whore.

checkmate.

next.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

I did, I said it was STUPID to gamble on that happening.

yeah, being on the lamb in russia is less a gamble, more smart thinking snowden!

[just a punk]

Guys, I really don't understand why do you wish death to Snowden. How exactly he betrayed your country? Did he reveal some military secrets or what? The guy just explained how your government is illegally watching you for your money. WTF with you? Has the USA became the USSR version 2.0 already?

[dyna mo]

i not only have thomas drake case supporting my view, i have every fucking espionage case every made against anyone in the usaunder 18 U.S.C. § 793(e) . hahahahahahahahaha

:::::::

Drake is one of four individuals in the history of the United States who has been charged specifically with “willful retention” of “national defense” information under 18 U.S.C. § 793(e). This particular portion of the Espionage Act was created in 1950 during the Second Red Scare, as part of the McCarran Internal Security Act.

Anthony Russo and Daniel Ellsberg were the first to be prosecuted for the “retention” of what came to be known as the Pentagon Papers which Ellsberg gave to The New York Times, eventually resulting in another landmark Espionage Act case in 1971, New York Times Co. v. United States. The prosecution of Russo and Ellsberg was dismissed in 1972 because of government misconduct.

The second prosecution was of Samuel Loring Morison in 1985, a Navy analyst who sold satellite photographs to Jane's Defense Weekly; he was later pardoned by President Bill Clinton.

The third was the American Israel Public Affairs Committee case in 2005 (United States v. Franklin, Rosen, and Weissman). All charges against Rosen and Weissman were dropped in 2009.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Guys, I really don't understand why do you wish death to Snowden. How exactly he betrayed your country? Did he reveal some military secrets or what? The guy just explained how your government is illegally watching you for your money. WTF with you? Has the USA became the USSR version 2.0 already?

i don't wish death on snowden. i think he fucked up the whole thing by sneaking off to russia and not releasing ALL the documents and staying put. he should have stayed here, kept the focus on the information, all of it, he also should have first tried legal channels to get his information out, as thomas drake did.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

he should have stayed here, kept the focus on the information, all of it, he also should have first tried legal channels to get his information out, as thomas drake did.

You know that he was dead or end up tortured somewhere in the CIA prisons like Guantanamo (his passport was revoked, right?) if he did that. I know you are not a kid. Why don't you understand the simple things?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

You know that he was dead or end up tortured somewhere in the CIA prisons like Guantanamo (his passport was revoked, right?) if he did that. I know you are not a kid. Why don't you understand the simple things?

can you not read? i just post historical evidence contrary to what you just wrote.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

You know that he was dead or end up tortured somewhere in the CIA prisons like Guantanamo (his passport was revoked, right?) if he did that. I know you are not a kid. Why don't you understand the simple things?

not only that, you are completely not getting the point.

which is he fucked up the entire reveal. the *story* now is not about the data revealed, it's about snowden and asylum.

do you not see how that is a fundamental failure?

i mean really. the shit i have to try and explain around here.



.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

do you not see how that is a fundamental failure?

A failure? The guy just told the US citizens how their government is illegally spying on them. That's all, nothing else.