Miami Graffiti Artist Gunned Down with taser...

[JohnnyNight]

My view is Tasers are for all intent and purposes a lethal weapon, it's not uncommon for someone to die after being tased.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/0...-tasering.html

So should a kid who got caught on a graffiti run be chased down and tased, does the potential harm of being tased outweigh the benefit to society? I sure think so... basically getting shot to death for doing graffiti on an abandoned building.

To me this is something to get upset about... not what G Zimmerman did to save his life.

At just 17, Israel Hernandez-Llach was already an award-winning artist, on the threshold of acclaim in Miami Beach art circles. He was a sculptor, painter, writer and photographer whose craft was inspired by his home country of Colombia and his adopted city, Miami.

[TheSquealer]

Yeah.. those crazy cops. Just walked up to a child and hit him in the chest for no reason at all.

ohhhhhh..... wait...

Police find a known vandal, catching him in the act and....

"Hernandez-Llach was confronted by officers about 5 a.m. as he was vandalizing private property, and he fled, leading officers on a foot chase. It ended at 71st and Harding when he was cornered by police and ran toward the officers, ignoring commands to stop, Martinez said.

“The officers were forced to use the Taser to avoid a physical incident,’’ the chief said."

The alternative of course to dealing with a hostile suspect who is charging police is to shoot him with a gun...but clearly tasers are the problem.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by JohnnyNight

So should a kid who got caught on a graffiti run be chased down and tased....

Yes.

Commit a crime, and police will attempt to arrest you. When you run the police will chase you and physically restrain you.

[geedub]

Last time I seen someone get busted for doing graffiti the guy sat there and talked to the cops like a normal human, the cops actually left and let him continue. lol

[poncabare]

quit spraying bullshit on stuff you don't own

[pornguy]

I remember back in the day when Chrome and Crook were on the lose tagging everything in sight. I think they finally caught them and charged them with Millions in damages.

The worst part for them was having tagged Train cars.

[_Richard_]

congratulations, Miami, you just killed one of these guys:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Michel_Basquiat

"Jean-Michel Basquiat (December 22, 1960 – August 12, 1988) was an American artist.[1] He began as an obscure graffiti artist in New York City in the late 1970s and evolved into an acclaimed Neo-expressionist and Primitivist painter by the 1980s."

well done.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Yes.

Commit a crime, and police will attempt to arrest you. When you run the police will chase you and physically restrain you.

[Tom_PM]

Locally to me, a handicapped man was tasered twice then dragged off a bus, breaking his hip, then locked up for 14 hours while pleading that he was injured. Because he wanted to stand on the bus and hold the handle rather than sit down, as he's done all of his bus riding life.

The video is on this page if anyone cares to watch 9 minutes of a handicapped man asking why he should sit down, then why he should get off the bus.
http://www.9wsyr.com/content/news/vi...1QpE3SqSA.cspx

[BAKO]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Yeah.. those crazy cops. Just walked up to a child and hit him in the chest for no reason at all.

ohhhhhh..... wait...

Police find a known vandal, catching him in the act and....

"Hernandez-Llach was confronted by officers about 5 a.m. as he was vandalizing private property, and he fled, leading officers on a foot chase. It ended at 71st and Harding when he was cornered by police and ran toward the officers, ignoring commands to stop, Martinez said.

?The officers were forced to use the Taser to avoid a physical incident,?? the chief said."

The alternative of course to dealing with a hostile suspect who is charging police is to shoot him with a gun...but clearly tasers are the problem.

Your the dumb ass that believes what cops say. Fuck you and the police motherfucker

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by JohnnyNight

it's not uncommon for someone to die after being tased.

no, it's not not uncommon.



A US study of the nationwide use of Tasers, the electrical stun guns used by the police, suggests the devices are safe and cause only a low incidence of serious injuries.

The independent prospective study was carried out by emergency medicine researchers at the Wake Forest University School of Medicine and was presented at the American College of Emergency Physicians' Research Forum in Seattle, Washington, yesterday, 8th October. The study was funded by the National Institute of Justice. Researchers from Louisiana State University, Inova Fairfax Hospital in Virginia, and University Medical Center, Nevada, also contributed to the study.

The research examined nearly 1,000 cases of Taser use, and found 99.7 per cent of them had either no injuries, or only mild injuries such as "scrapes and bruises". In 0.3 per cent of the cases (3 people) the injuries were serious enough to require hospital admission. Two had head injuries sustained during falls after the Taser was used and the third was hospitalized two days after arrest with a condition "of unclear relationship to the Taser" said the researchers in a prepared statement.


http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/84955.php


plenty where that came from/

[Roald]

Good for him, stop vandalizing other people's property.

[slapass]

I own a few buildings and this shit is a pain in the ass.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Rochard was correct.

[GetSCORECash]

1) It was an abandon shuttered McDonald?s.

2) Two officers, two tasers on one skinny kid.



It's big news here in Miami.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by BAKO

Your the dumb ass that believes what cops say. Fuck you and the police motherfucker

I dont necessarily "believe" anything other than the obvious fact that there is always more to the story than the failing newspaper trying to capture ad views with sensationalism presents.

And... its pretty fucking hard to shoot someone with a taser that is "running away".

[slapass]

Originally Posted by GetSCORECash

1) It was an abandon shuttered McDonald?s.

2) Two officers, two tasers on one skinny kid.



It's big news here in Miami.

Some poor bastard still owns the building. He has to maintain it even though it is shuttered. He lets the graffiti stay and he gets a fine from the city. No win for him.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

no, it's not not uncommon.

damn, was hoping to impress the gfy grammaticists with a quadruple negative, those are rare- enjoy!

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by GetSCORECash

1) It was an abandon shuttered McDonald’s.

2) Two officers, two tasers on one skinny kid.



It's big news here in Miami.

I believe they are heroes now. At least among "bikers" and "former marines". As more police is being brutal with them as more they are happy. This sort of people needs a firm hand of the lord.

P.S. Even in the "evil" USSR such things were just impossible. Ask any guy/girl (e.g. Marina) who was born in the Soviet Union (there is a lot of them here on GFY) and they all will confirm my words. This is just fuckin' sick and inhumanely. And yeah, enjoy your "freedom".

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by slapass

Some poor bastard still owns the building. He has to maintain it even though it is shuttered. He lets the graffiti stay and he gets a fine from the city. No win for him.

Hey. Please stop talking sense here.

No one cares about the owner of the building, only that some poor vandal with no respect for other people has died.

[Tom_PM]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

damn, was hoping to impress the gfy grammaticists with a quadruple negative, those are rare- enjoy!

I was impressed and even did a double take then read it slowly and looked down my nose saying.. impressive.. most impressive.

-or-

The monocle almost fell out of my eye socket when I read that.

[brassmonkey]

"He was also a graffiti artist, known as ?Reefa,? who sprayed colorful splashes of paint on the city?s abandoned buildings while playing cat-and-mouse with cops


the cat caught the mouse

[baddog]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I believe they are heroes now. At least among "bikers" and "former marines". As more police is being brutal with them as more they are happy. This sort of people needs a firm hand of the lord.

P.S. Even in the "evil" USSR such things were just impossible. Ask any guy/girl (e.g. Marina) who was born in the Soviet Union (there is a lot of them here on GFY) and they all will confirm my words. This is just fuckin' sick and inhumanely. And yeah, enjoy your "freedom".

You want us to believe that in Russia, if you run from the cops they will not chase after you? Interesting . . . interesting that you think anyone believes that.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by poncabare

quit spraying bullshit on stuff you don't own

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Tom_PM

I was impressed and even did a double take then read it slowly and looked down my nose saying.. impressive.. most impressive.

-or-

The monocle almost fell out of my eye socket when I read that.

nice!

rachel maddow's trying to bring those back too

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by baddog

You want us to believe that in Russia, if you run from the cops they will not chase after you?

Of course they will be after you, but they are NOT ALLOWED to shoot you. Doesn't matter with a gun or with a taser, if you don't treat them with a gun by yourself (e.g. try to shoot them down). If they do it (just shoot, not kill you) they will be in a very deep shit.

Watch this video (watch it attentively):



This police officer was fired from his job just because he clutched his holster (didn't even get his gun out). He was just unhappy that someone is filming him. FYI: In Russia you are ALLOWED to film cops while they are on duty.

So once again. Such a sick and inhumanely situation is absolutely impossible here. And it was impossible in Soviet Union too.

P.S. And yes, we have no death penalty here. At least you have a very good consolation: you live in the free country while I not.

[candyflip]

Cops in America have been pussified and then armored up.

I saw a chick this morning have to call for backup and wait for it to arrive before doing her job. When she finally got out of the car, she was MAYBE 5'1'' - 135 lbs.

What the fuck is up with letting anyone these days be a cop?

[Pipecrew]

This happened about 10 minutes from where I am sitting at the moment.

1) If you are hanging around that neighborhood at 5:30am, you are definitely not up to any good. You are also about 3 blocks from the gang areas.

2) If you run from the police, they are going to catch you. They don't know why you are running, maybe you have a gun on you, who knows. If they ask you to get on the ground multiple times and you don't, they are going to taze your ass.

3) I guarantee when the autopsy comes back, you are going to see this kid was:
a) high on ecstasy or
b) high on bath salts or
c) suffering from cocaine psychosis (common in taser deaths)

Was nice to see in the paper that this kid had just received his US citizenship. Nice way to pay back the country by going out and defacing it when you have millions of people that would (and have) died for citizenship here.

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by JohnnyNight

My view is Tasers are for all intent and purposes a lethal weapon, it's not uncommon for someone to die after being tased.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/0...-tasering.html

So should a kid who got caught on a graffiti run be chased down and tased, does the potential harm of being tased outweigh the benefit to society? I sure think so... basically getting shot to death for doing graffiti on an abandoned building.

To me this is something to get upset about... not what G Zimmerman did to save his life.

At just 17, Israel Hernandez-Llach was already an award-winning artist, on the threshold of acclaim in Miami Beach art circles. He was a sculptor, painter, writer and photographer whose craft was inspired by his home country of Colombia and his adopted city, Miami.

his age - so what
his skills - so what

dont break the fucking law. he should buy his own building and deface that or at least ask permission beforehand from the owner. There are a lot of shops in Spain that allow you to do art on the buildings as long as it looks neat.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

he should buy his own building and deface that or at least ask permission beforehand from the owner.

And this is a reason to kill a human (actually just a child according to the US laws)? How rotten and terrified such a society must be...

[Sly]

You guys are goofy.

Dark in the very early morning, two blocks over from gangland, a person (first, a 17-year-old is not a child, second, a person loses their "oh poor baby" defense when they start running) first goes running away from the police (who told him to stop) and then comes charging back at them (who told him to stop.) According to all of you goofballs, the police should have stepped aside and said "hey man, nice artwork, can I get your autograph?"

Unfortunate that he died, but he's lucky he did not get straight lit up. If you want to commit a crime, fine, go for it, but don't expect to be a martyr when you get caught. Do the crime, do the time, like a man.

Run at a police officer, you're going to get shot. That's just stupid.

[just a punk]

2Sly: What a scary place on the Earth. Really...

[baddog]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

2Sly: What a scary place on the Earth. Really...

I am sure Russian cops have no problem when a suspect comes running at them. Do they fix them tea?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by baddog

I am sure Russian cops have no problem when a suspect comes running at them. Do they fix them tea?

LOL where did you get that shit??? The guys are not in Russian police uniform and this is not Russia. Go find something else, "biker"

Man, get life already and stop watching Hollywood movies about "evil" Russians

P.S. At least read the YouTube comments before posting your nonsense ))))

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

LOL where did you get that shit??? The guys are not in Russian police uniform and this is not Russia. Go find something else, "biker"

[Vendzilla]

I saw a video where the guy just walked away from the cop so he got tased.

They do that all the time, it's not right

Wait, here it is

[just a punk]

2baddog: Are all the modern US bikers are kissing the police shoes or it's just you such an unique person? Please don't make me disappointed about the whole US biker movement. I saw tens of Hollywood movies about cool and fearless bikers and now... you

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

2baddog: Are all the modern US bikers are kissing the police shoes or it's just you such an unique person? Please don't make me disappointed about the whole US biker movement. I saw tens of Hollywood movies about cool and fearless bikers and now... you

As Modern biker, I can say Go Fuck Yourself

Not Russia? Sure doesn't look or sound like they are in the San Fernando Valley

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

As Modern biker, I can say Go Fuck Yourself

So you are pro-police guy like baddog, or you are somehow different? I didn't get you answer

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

So you are pro-police guy like baddog, or you are somehow different? I didn't get you answer

[mineistaken]

Cops were not going for a kill, they were going for simple taze. It was unfortunate accident.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Cops were not going for a kill, they were going for simple taze. It was unfortunate accident.

I don't believe that two big and fat police officers were unable to use a simple man force to get a skinny 17yo kid arrested. At least I believe they were learned to do it (am I wrong?) Why the hell they were used tasers that can kill anyone with a weak heart? Are they were afraid of that kid or that? And these ladies you call "police officers"? *facepalm*

[Phoenix]

he should not have been tagging buildings.

however...cops are way too trigger happy with a taser or a gun these days

no one can deny that

[rogueteens]

graffiti is ugly

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

he should not have been tagging buildings.

however...cops are way too trigger happy with a taser or a gun these days

no one can deny that

[- Jesus Christ -]

In this thread... delusional fascists justify murder.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

In this thread... delusional fascists justify murder.

they can't help it...it comes with the brown shirts

as well as the driving need to fit in and believe in the system

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Cops were not going for a kill, they were going for simple taze. It was unfortunate accident.

In Florida ????

.. with a non-white kid ... ????

You must be kidding ....


PS: saw the one 2 years ago in Hialeh where the black dude, stopped in his car, was shot dead with more then 100 rounds ...
... He had stopped ....


I go to Florida every year ( thinking of selling now that the market is heating up ... could make a cool 50K over the 2 years I ghad it ..) but I think I will go somewhere else ...

I will flee my ground ...

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

he should not have been tagging buildings.

however...cops are way too trigger happy with a taser or a gun these days

no one can deny that

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

In Florida ????

.. with a non-white kid ... ????

You must be kidding ....


PS: saw the one 2 years ago in Hialeh where the black dude, stopped in his car, was shot dead with more then 100 rounds ...
... He had stopped ....


I go to Florida every year ( thinking of selling now that the market is heating up ... could make a cool 50K over the 2 years I ghad it ..) but I think I will go somewhere else ...

I will flee my ground ...

that's the story where one cop jumps ON the car, and starts firing down into it?