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richard123 · 08-28-2013, 05:21 PM

I joined up back around 1999 or 2000. At one point, they told me I was one of their top 10 affiliates.
Over the years, I earned well over $100K. Sites came and went. A few years at a stretch here and there, I made very little. Sometimes more.

Earlier this year, I started getting "payment declined" because I had not submitted a tax form they need. So I went to my account on the AFF site to fix it.

Every time I went to bring up the form, I got "Your browser connection has been reset".

After a few weeks/months of this, I contacted Support and got the response "We're working on it".

I kept checking back and checking back. Then I got an email saying my account would be killed if I did not provide the form. I emailed again and got no answer at all. I realise now I should have taken it more seriously.

So I contacted them again - via Kalyn on this very message board.

I have now been told that they have no record of my recurrings or my pending payment. All they can offer is for me to set up a new account and they will double the commission for a while. Forget about the recurring.

To me, this is clearly a case of a money-grab. I sold my most recent site a couple of years ago and was getting mostly recurring since. So what do they have to lose by cutting me off? Not much.

Beware of these fuckers! They have just cost me $1000s!

baddog · 08-28-2013, 06:02 PM

If you were a top 10 affiliate didn't you go on any of the trips they have? I would think they would know all their top 10's personally.

richard123 · 08-28-2013, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

If you were a top 10 affiliate didn't you go on any of the trips they have? I would think they would know all their top 10's personally.

That was back in 2000/2001 or thereabouts and it was just what I was told. I don't know if it was true. I remember they sent some gifts, but it's a looong time ago.

... and that wasn't really my point

Seth Manson · 08-28-2013, 06:08 PM

me think you not a 10%'er

pretty sure the tax forms were requested over a year ago

Cyber Fucker · 08-28-2013, 06:30 PM

Sorry to hear that... how many recurring sales you had there?

richard123 · 08-28-2013, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

me think you not a 10%'er

pretty sure the tax forms were requested over a year ago

Yes they were. I have supplied these forms before too. Just this time, I couldn't, because it wasn't accessible to me. I told them. They said they were working on it, but it wasn't fixed before my account was closed.

Not suspended, but closed completely, with all data obliterated as well. Without giving me a chance to fill it in.

Maybe if I had gone looking for the form earlier it would have been there. Or maybe not. They had a deadline which I tried to meet. Couldn't (because of their website) and they deleted me.

TumblrPRO · 08-28-2013, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard123

I joined up back around 1999 or 2000. At one point, they told me I was one of their top 10 affiliates.
Over the years, I earned well over $100K.

That's funny.

Do you have any remote idea of how much the top 10 affiliates have earned them since 1999?...

even affiliate number 20th, has earned them millions... And you talk about 100K "over the years"? ... lol

No chance, you are not even in the top 100...

Nothing against you tho, so dont take this personally or anything, but those numbers really make no sense.

richard123 · 08-28-2013, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TumblrPRO

That's funny.

Do you have any remote idea of how much the top 10 affiliates have earned them since 1999?...

even affiliate number 20th, has earned them millions... And you talk about 100K "over the years"? ... lol

No chance, you are not even in the top 100...

Nothing against you tho, so dont take this personally or anything, but those numbers really make no sense.

It shouldn't be that hard to understand. "At one point" means at a single point in time. Besides, it was my AFF manager who told me. As I have since discovered, their ethics are somewhat lacking, so it may have been a lie.

Thanks for bumping!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-28-2013, 07:25 PM

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richard123 · 08-28-2013, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyber Fucker

Sorry to hear that... how many recurring sales you had there?

About $1000 every 3 months I think is about right.

KillerK · 08-28-2013, 08:30 PM

Top 10 affiliates do what you did ever with them in less then a month.

Diomed · 08-28-2013, 09:31 PM

So who's fake nick is Seth Manson?

Ferus · 08-28-2013, 11:33 PM

They (by law) are required to keep uour data tevords, so dont buy in to "we have no records" spin on the situation.

Zeiss · 08-28-2013, 11:48 PM

Absolutely the same story here, dude. Except earnings were not that high. AFF - morons. Even when I submitted this stupid form, I did not get anything.

bluebook18 · 08-29-2013, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

BP4L...

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fuzebox · 08-29-2013, 02:50 AM

I will be sure to keep my eyes peeled.

richard123 · 08-29-2013, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus

They (by law) are required to keep uour data tevords, so dont buy in to "we have no records" spin on the situation.

I'm buying into the "this is how capitalism works. We have the power to screw you over because it is too expensive to chase after unless you can prove it's a million bucks (and even then it's probably just a break-even scenario)".

That's what I'm buying into.

On the flip side, I can tell my story of the thieving ways of Adult Friend Finder to anyone who'll listen/read. Until they hit me with a cease and desist. When/if they do, I will be forced to stop only because they have truckloads of money and I don't.

It's the way of the world!!! We all learn from it so we can do the same when we have the advantage over someone!

TubeSubmitters · 08-29-2013, 03:15 AM

Had the same problem, no a top 10 earner though. Fuck em.

Icy · 08-29-2013, 03:33 AM

Same problem for me, my 10 years old account was closed, got no answers to my emails or any way to contact them, seems a "nice" way to keep all our recurring money.

I understand freezing the account until papers are received, but deleting it, with all the stats etc? come on, that is just plan thieving.

signupdamnit · 08-29-2013, 04:49 AM

There have been a lot of complaints about this which means it's happening. But I haven't read a case yet where someone really made a big effort to get the tax information to them and contact them. I'm a little sympathetic to richard123 but even he says "I realise now I should have taken it more seriously."

My rep has always answered me within a business day. And they even publish phone numbers to reach them at should your email not get through. If you have thousands you earn from them and you can't bother in a year to make a phone call to them then it's hard to take your side.

Klen · 08-29-2013, 05:16 AM

Aff is heavily bureaucratized company so it's nothing unusual things like this happen.

ajrocks · 08-29-2013, 06:05 AM

AFF doesn't do business with honor. I've recently had some very major issues as well where they didn't honor a contract. They don't care, their attitude is so sue us.

Elli · 08-29-2013, 09:00 AM

Rikard, I received your email and forwarded it to a manager to see if there is anything we can do to help. Please, please make sure that your contact info in your account is up to date. Many of our managers actually called their affiliates to make sure the paperwork was done in time.

As for waiting for something online to be finished, that seems strange to me. You just needed to go to the government website to grab a W9 (or W8BEN)form and email or fax it to us when completed. If you have any questions at all in future, please don't hesitate to call our office directly.

Seth Manson · 08-29-2013, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diomed

So who's fake nick is Seth Manson?

Yo Momma's?

Fat Panda · 08-29-2013, 11:46 AM

aff sucks cock.

look at the bright side at least they didnt pay you in their worthless penny stock

rofl

Why · 08-29-2013, 02:14 PM

gee AFF stealing from affiliates again? say it aint so!

this is pretty much their MO for many years now, between AFF and pussycash, ive only heard nightmares!

adultmobile · 08-29-2013, 02:19 PM

With big program, comes big responsibility.

08-28-2013, 05:21 PM	#1
richard123 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 491	Watch out for the Adult Friend Finder scam I joined up back around 1999 or 2000. At one point, they told me I was one of their top 10 affiliates. Over the years, I earned well over $100K. Sites came and went. A few years at a stretch here and there, I made very little. Sometimes more. Earlier this year, I started getting "payment declined" because I had not submitted a tax form they need. So I went to my account on the AFF site to fix it. Every time I went to bring up the form, I got "Your browser connection has been reset". After a few weeks/months of this, I contacted Support and got the response "We're working on it". I kept checking back and checking back. Then I got an email saying my account would be killed if I did not provide the form. I emailed again and got no answer at all. I realise now I should have taken it more seriously. So I contacted them again - via Kalyn on this very message board. I have now been told that they have no record of my recurrings or my pending payment. All they can offer is for me to set up a new account and they will double the commission for a while. Forget about the recurring. To me, this is clearly a case of a money-grab. I sold my most recent site a couple of years ago and was getting mostly recurring since. So what do they have to lose by cutting me off? Not much. Beware of these fuckers! They have just cost me $1000s!

08-28-2013, 06:30 PM	#5
Cyber Fucker Hmm Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On an endless road around the world for rock and roll. Posts: 12,642	Sorry to hear that... how many recurring sales you had there? __________________

08-28-2013, 07:25 PM	#9
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08-28-2013, 09:31 PM	#12
Diomed Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South Posts: 6,167	So who's fake nick is Seth Manson? __________________ 10 years of experience in: CHAT SALES - PAID TRAFFIC - CONVERSION - CREATIVES - CONSULTATION

08-28-2013, 11:48 PM	#14
Zeiss Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2012 Location: With your mom Posts: 5,189	Absolutely the same story here, dude. Except earnings were not that high. AFF - morons. Even when I submitted this stupid form, I did not get anything. __________________ Adult Webmasters Guides

08-28-2013, 06:02 PM	#2
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	If you were a top 10 affiliate didn't you go on any of the trips they have? I would think they would know all their top 10's personally.

08-28-2013, 06:08 PM	#4
Seth Manson Please dont fuck animals Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 3,988	me think you not a 10%'er pretty sure the tax forms were requested over a year ago

08-28-2013, 08:30 PM	#11
KillerK Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,406	Top 10 affiliates do what you did ever with them in less then a month.

08-28-2013, 11:33 PM	#13
Ferus Bye - Left to do stuff Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 4,108	They (by law) are required to keep uour data tevords, so dont buy in to "we have no records" spin on the situation.

08-29-2013, 02:50 AM	#16
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,111	I will be sure to keep my eyes peeled.

08-29-2013, 03:15 AM	#18
TubeSubmitters Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,683	Had the same problem, no a top 10 earner though. Fuck em. __________________ Buying sites with income, paying by paxum, hit me up

08-29-2013, 03:33 AM	#19
Icy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 864	Same problem for me, my 10 years old account was closed, got no answers to my emails or any way to contact them, seems a "nice" way to keep all our recurring money. I understand freezing the account until papers are received, but deleting it, with all the stats etc? come on, that is just plan thieving. __________________ Kimia: Make money with mobile traffic, both adult and mainstream Skype: sinlords - ICQ: 83-235-881 email: ivan at kimia.mobi Last edited by Icy; 08-29-2013 at 03:43 AM..

08-29-2013, 04:49 AM	#20
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	There have been a lot of complaints about this which means it's happening. But I haven't read a case yet where someone really made a big effort to get the tax information to them and contact them. I'm a little sympathetic to richard123 but even he says "I realise now I should have taken it more seriously." My rep has always answered me within a business day. And they even publish phone numbers to reach them at should your email not get through. If you have thousands you earn from them and you can't bother in a year to make a phone call to them then it's hard to take your side. __________________ You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

08-29-2013, 05:16 AM	#21
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Aff is heavily bureaucratized company so it's nothing unusual things like this happen.

08-29-2013, 06:05 AM	#22
ajrocks Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: On Uranus Posts: 4,526	AFF doesn't do business with honor. I've recently had some very major issues as well where they didn't honor a contract. They don't care, their attitude is so sue us. __________________ SEO Strategy - Digital Strategy - Cannabis Lead Generation Skype aj.durden1

08-29-2013, 09:00 AM	#23
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	Rikard, I received your email and forwarded it to a manager to see if there is anything we can do to help. Please, please make sure that your contact info in your account is up to date. Many of our managers actually called their affiliates to make sure the paperwork was done in time. As for waiting for something online to be finished, that seems strange to me. You just needed to go to the government website to grab a W9 (or W8BEN)form and email or fax it to us when completed. If you have any questions at all in future, please don't hesitate to call our office directly. __________________ email: [email protected]

08-29-2013, 11:46 AM	#25
Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,295	aff sucks cock. look at the bright side at least they didnt pay you in their worthless penny stock rofl

08-29-2013, 02:14 PM	#26
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	gee AFF stealing from affiliates again? say it aint so! this is pretty much their MO for many years now, between AFF and pussycash, ive only heard nightmares!

08-29-2013, 02:19 PM	#27
adultmobile No, I am not banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ChatGF.com Posts: 5,345	With big program, comes big responsibility. __________________ TubeCamGirl.com