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skyler haters
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She is getting better
spoiler Also you just cannot take a kid like that |
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Sure but it is also self preservation. If anybody but Hank investigates then her hands are pretty dirty at this stage.
That said, she isn't anywhere near as annoying as her sister. |
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i had to lol when marie tried to klepto the baby, same ole marie! maybe she's the most consistent of them all. i'm still trying to sort out why the writers felt the need to get peeps liking skyler. any ideas? it does seem inconsistent to me, so i am *guessing* there's a reason it was so important in this episode. |
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I can't wait until Hank figures out Jesse's connection. What deal is going to be made there? Marie would be the last person I would have look after my kid even if its dad was a drug lord. |
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that's the only reason i can think of atm for why skyler done what she done last nite. choosing to lawyer up v. spilling to shrader at the diner? was not expecting that. BUT shrader's way of handling it could have made her irrationally decide on the spot, he's such a dickhead!! |
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I think Skylar already flipped to being "all in" a long time ago.
Even though Lydia is a little worm, I just love that character because she's so funny. Ordering the deaths of 5 men, then being too squeamish to see the bodies.
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She lost a lot of my respect when she stood there pleading for her daughter back. She should have grabbed her sister by the hair and yanked her back to her senses.
Skyler has always had some 'carmella soprano' in her, she doesn't 'like' the business but she is shrewd enough to be helpful when she wants to be, and she isn't about to go into witness protection without a storage unit full of cash. |
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Her death is going to be interesting when it happens.
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Approx $625. The shot of Lydia fastidiously climbing down the metal ladder into their underground methamphetamine bunker, fastidiously and uncomfortably placing her red Louboutin shoe soles on each filthy industrial rung . . . well, it is pure genius.
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I never said I HATED Skylar, but she's fully invested in this, and she's going down with the ship.
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i'm prolly gonna wee my pants due to excitment during the episode that shows ww getting back in the game. he's gotta get back in right?
someone will find that moneys and he'll have to start over. |
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What if Walt and Hank conspire together to make Lydia and that young guy (forget his name) the enemy? Then Hank still solves the case and his family is protected.
With the cancer being back I think Hank knows why Walt did it and is wrestling with acceptance. |
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That's Todd. Weirdly, the AMC official press room for journalists actually has him tagged as Jesse, so apparently his name is forgettable.
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actually, it would not have been a roll, based on her history of how she treats ww and how he has shit all over her, it would have been a relief finally, imo, not a time to lawyer up. i don't think anyone can disagree it was certainly out of character. not saying that's wrong, peeps irl act of out character all the time based on events, nevertheless, i'm wondering what the motivation was for the writers and consequently, the skyler character to do an about face.
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so does anybody else think ww is gonna get back in? or will the finale be a strictly ww v. shrader dealio?
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I have never really hated Skylar. At times she can be a little annoying, but to me she is just a person who has had her life turned upside down, first by being knocked up at an older age then by her husband getting cancer then by finding out her husband was a meth dealer.
I have enjoyed watching her go from average person to straight up gangster. Had Hank figured this out a few seasons ago when she was hating Walt she likely would have flipped and given Hank everything. Now she has had a taste and is fully invested herself so she has to protect herself in all of this as well. Still, she could demand that she get full immunity in exchange for handing over Walk and she would likely get it and that might still happen. I subscribe to the theory that Hank either kills her or has her killed. if he thinks she is going to roll over on him that might be the reason he does it. |
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but i don't think was the intent of the writers, which is why i am wondering if how this was handled was not also some sort of attempt to get the skylar character less hated/more liked, i certainly am not alone in not liking that character. not sure if it worked though, it may have backfired. |
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Loved when Saul suggested sending Hank to Belize... wondering how long before he recommends sending Skyler there too.
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I think she likes the game aspect of it all now. If she thinks she can get the better of Hank and keep her family clean, she'll try. It mostly about her but if it saves Walt too then it does.
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Hank can't offer her immunity from prosecution Hank wasn't offering her a deal.. he was under the assumption that she was a victim and hostage of a violent drug dealer (as he stated repeatedly) Hank was over zealously trying to extract information She will go to prison She will lose her children She will lose her home She will lose the car wash She will lose the money She dummied up and threatened to get a lawyer. Thats the only smart choice.
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the reason i bet he knew is because marie mentioned all of that during her 1/2 of a conversation with skyler on the bed last nite. if she knew how skylar knew all the way back when, then certainly shrader knows too, but he needs, or thought he needed skyler's info. |
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Also, the tax stuff was again a practical matter of self preservation.
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i think he knew at the diner. certainly a voice in the back of his head had this part sorted out, marie burped it all out later and she's not the sharpest brain on the show, and he's portrayed as the smart one.
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I think she is just buying time. There was that argument they had where she finally said to him that she would do what it takes to keep the kids safe and that eventually the cancer would come back and essentially set them free of him. It wasn't long after that when she decided to help him out. She is in survival mode and may be just hoping the cancer comes back and kills Walk then she and the kids are free, and if she plays her cards right she is free and has a boatload of money. |
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I think the opening scene of the first episode with Walt going into the abandoned house, which has "Heisenberg" written on the wall and where he has a full head of hair, suggests A LOT is going to happen while Walt is alive.
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i'm thinking i'lll just have to chalk this one up as a tech glitch. i can only imagine how difficult it is to weave a complex show while dev'ing the characters at the same time. it's not out of the question to need to have a character act out of character to point the overall show in the direction the producers want it to go.
besides, i prolly would have never noticed it if i weren't so into the show and trying to dissect the characters. |
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After I wrote that I thought about the opening scene on episode 9 and the abandoned house. I doubted myself and then thought about how the ricin could be to kill off someone that was going to rat on him. Todd seems loyal; they went out of the way to show how loyal he is. I picture Lydia trying to save her own ass, so Walt makes sure that will not happen. Maybe the house was abandoned because because they all moved away until the DEA made the move on Lydia and Todd; but Lydia sent him a message with the spray paint. Walt was just a boring chemistry teacher before he became Heisenberg. Hank could come around and decide his family is more important than taking down Walt, who has gotten out and doesn't have much time left. He'd want to take someone down though... so Lydia and Todd are perfect for that and they were both very messy with those meth lab deaths. I really want it to end with Walt healthy, out of the biz and everyone happy. I know it's probably not going to end up that way though because that is what most want. |
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the problem is the mula and that big speech about it ww gave skyler on the bathroom floor about it. during another scene, when ww was at the back of the money van i was stumped wondering what ww had planned for that cash, burn it even. i did think he was finally going to go burn the money, just like a previous episode. but he stashed it and is giving skyler an ultimatum over it. if skyler agrees and ww turns himself in, then skylar will fight for that money, which will have been found by then as well.
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Yeah, the fact that it was his own house and that clearly a lot of time had past given its condition and that he had a full head of hair would suggest to me that he walked away from it all somehow. Probably Lydia will get blamed for it all and Hank will give Walt a pass because he hasn't got enough direct evidence against him.
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wouldn't the graffitti suggest that the public knows ww = heisenberg?
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I'd love to see Walt find out that Walt Jr. is using meth and watch Mr. White have to come to terms with that.
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