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Old 09-11-2013, 09:04 AM   #1
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9/11 - A Conspiracy Theory



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to be a conspiracy wacko must be really frustrating and unfullfilling...you will go to your graves without the slightest vindication , without even the tiniest shred of evidence or testimony to cling to that would validate your wild fantasies.
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to be a conspiracy wacko must be really frustrating and unfullfilling...you will go to your graves without the slightest vindication , without even the tiniest shred of evidence or testimony to cling to that would validate your wild fantasies.
Being a sheep being spoon fed reality - loser.

Knowing the truth, even if unpopular - priceless.
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to be a conspiracy wacko must be really frustrating and unfullfilling...you will go to your graves without the slightest vindication , without even the tiniest shred of evidence or testimony to cling to that would validate your wild fantasies.


exactly.

not to mention spending that life living in abject fear and paranoia.

no wonder they need everyone to agree with their view, misery seeks company.
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I don't know about this Madison Ivy chick....I mean, she's HOT okay....but kinda fake and I've seen her without makeup. YOWCH! And she is WAY too young to be that hard and jaded. I dunno.......sigh.

What do you all think? You know, about Madison Ivy's sex appeal?

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I don't know about this Madison Ivy chick....I mean, she's HOT okay....but kinda fake and I've seen her without makeup. YOWCH! And she is WAY too young to be that hard and jaded. I dunno.......sigh.

What do you all think? You know, about Madison Ivy's sex appeal?

(The most interesting thing in this thread is that Madison ivy GIF.)
that's krystall boyd, much hotter. but i still think madison ivy is hot too.
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9/11 is overrated, still is. i think a lot of people think so highly of it because of how the united states has managed to become so much in everybody's pie with this war on the evil-doers.

china has the opportunity to lead this world right now in this point in time, but nope. i can't see how a country who wants to finally help africa can't mediate the rebellion in syria and have you noticed something? how the mainstream media always leaves china out printed as being involved in media reports about this event?
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exactly.

not to mention spending that life living in abject fear and paranoia.

no wonder they need everyone to agree with their view, misery seeks company.
Actually knowing the truth is quite liberating. You should try it sometime.

Of course, the downside is that thinking for yourself takes intelligence and free will which would get the way of your blind unquestioning loyalty to authority.
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Actually knowing the truth is quite liberating. You should try it sometime.

Of course, the downside is that thinking for yourself takes intelligence and free will which would get the way of your blind unquestioning loyalty to authority.
sadly, you have no idea what you are talking about. here, i will enlighten you:

you have no original thought. you are regurgitating the same shit from the other side.

you are being told what to think, you didn't come up with the brainiac notion that 9/11 was an inside job.

you have not thought for yourself. you were told 9/11 was an inside job.

you bow to authority.

you are a hypocrite and your comment proofs my view, you are entirely insecure in your view, consequently, that's why you need to get me to agree with you (your comment about how i should try the truth sometime).

funny thing is, i couldn't give 2 shits what you think yet you are so concerned with needing me to think like you.

obvious is obvious.
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Actually knowing the truth is quite liberating. You should try it sometime.

Of course, the downside is that thinking for yourself takes intelligence and free will which would get the way of your blind unquestioning loyalty to authority.
here's another way you are wrong:

so fucking what? how much better has your life been since you decided to believe the conspiracy theorists you follow around?

how's that working out for you? why not cite some examples of how much better your life is than mine since you believe that 9/11 was an inside job.

fill us all in on how much richer your life is after being liberated to the truth of 9/11.


go on.
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i wonder how Larry Silverstein feels about 9/11????????????
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Here is the most ironic thing about conspiracy nutcases:

They think the we (rational thinking people who actually look at all the facts, then make up our minds) are "Sheep"

But these guys make up their mind based on some wildly improbable (actually impossible) claims by paranoid basement youtube crazies - they cherry pick tidbits of non-facts that seem to support their case - they start with a hypothesis then search for any wild conjecture to back up that crazed view and they reject or fail to listen to actual facts and scientific proof.

YOU are actually the Sheep, you loonies fall for every wacky documentary and youtube piece of propaganda that fits with your pre-conceived notion of how events unfolded.

The fact that you think you are the guys with the "TRUTH" rather than just having questions and healthy skepticism just takes all legitimacy away from your opinions - it's one thing to question the "Official" story but your wild fantasy that you are the holders of the "TRUTH"...well it just makes you look plain crazy.
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yes, a meme always proofs a point. they are always based on fact eh.

solid argument!
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again, feel free to fill us all in on how much better your lives are thinking that 9/11 was an inside job.

i'm open! sell me.
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again, feel free to fill us all in on how much better your lives are thinking that 9/11 was an inside job.

i'm open! sell me.
Once you accept that 9/11 was a lie, it's easier to open your mind to other big lies, such as vaccines; by avoiding vaccines you stay healthy and have a better life
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Once you accept that 9/11 was a lie, it's easier to open your mind to other big lies, such as vaccines; by avoiding vaccines you stay healthy and have a better life
i haven't had my dog vaccinated since the ones the breeder gave him before i ever got him 7 years ago.

i haven't had a vaccine in decades.

you know me around here, i'm as nutty as they come, so stopping flouride won't do much, the damage is there already, if that's what did it. nevertheless, i exercise my body and brain, generally eat right and try to enjoy life by doing things like traveling and playing the guitar.

so again, i'm open, i can always be happier/better/ so fill me in,

how would life better thinking 9/11 was an inside job?
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how would life better thinking 9/11 was an inside job?
You know...wearing Rose colored glasses is fine and dandy for some.

Others really care about reality and if that means being uncomfortable then so be it.

I am sure that some of the people in Germany were quite content to ignore the "rumors" of what really was going on at the concentration camps but as long as they could drink a pint of or 2 of beer and it didn't bother them directly who cares...right.
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You know...wearing Rose colored glasses is fine and dandy for some.

Others really care about reality and if that means being uncomfortable then so be it.

I am sure that some of the people in Germany were quite content to ignore the "rumors" of what really was going on at the concentration camps but as long as they could drink a pint of or 2 of beer and it didn't bother them directly who cares...right.
but as you can see, that's not what i am doing. or maybe you can't see/read that in my posts so i will restate it here:

i'm open. how has your life changed for the better or even what are you doing differently now that you know the government is not unlike nazi's running concentration camps?

you are in the same camp. how is life different/better for you now that you know you are in a concentration camp?

to use your analogy, so you can see how i am open to your way of looking at things.
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exactly.

not to mention spending that life living in abject fear and paranoia.

no wonder they need everyone to agree with their view, misery seeks company.
that's bullshit.

anders brevik was a conspiracy nutter and he pulled off a devastating attack on his central government and killed over fifty young left-wing socialists after careful study and planning of how he was going to execute his plan. when asked why he did it? he said it was necessary to cleanse europe of muslims or more broadly, blacks.

they were mostly white norwegians who died.

bah, 9/11, and now the one world trade center, hey nice one guys.
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but as you can see, that's not what i am doing. or maybe you can't see/read that in my posts so i will restate it here:

i'm open. how has your life changed for the better or even what are you doing differently now that you know the government is not unlike nazi's running concentration camps?

you are in the same camp. how is life different/better for you now that you know you are in a concentration camp?

to use your analogy, so you can see how i am open to your way of looking at things.
They don't do anything to change, just want more people to "believe" or "wake up" and "stop being sheep".

As has been noted many times, these "alternative thinkers" are just as much sheep as the people they try to preach to, not only are they sheep, but they do fuck all about anything they're told. They pretty much believe/know they are slaves, but are more concerned about telling people on porn forums of all places about their views, than actually taking action.

Not sure what the correct term for the opposite of activism is, but these guys do a pretty good job at it.
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dyna mo wins this thread by a 1st round K.O, as per usual

I'm right up there on the anti-authority scale, as anyone who has seen my related posts knows. Yet I think CTs (christ I even know the terminology, solely from gfy) are borderline mentally ill, all joking aside. Their reality is so warped, their judgement so clouded, that the very thing they accuse us 'sheep' of is in fact exactly what their own behaviour & thought processes are.

So, JockoHomo, how does my not having loyalty to authority, much less any blind unquestioning aspect of it, tie in with your statement that one needs to have those qualities to be a 'sheep'? Or are you in all seriousness, suggesting you have more intelligence and free will than all us 'sheep'? That itself smacks of low intelligence and zero free will.
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They don't do anything to change, just want more people to "believe" or "wake up" and "stop being sheep".

As has been noted many times, these "alternative thinkers" are just as much sheep as the people they try to preach to, not only are they sheep, but they do fuck all about anything they're told. They pretty much believe/know they are slaves, but are more concerned about telling people on porn forums of all places about their views, than actually taking action.

Not sure what the correct term for the opposite of activism is, but these guys do a pretty good job at it.
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Here is the most ironic thing about conspiracy nutcases:

They think the we (rational thinking people who actually look at all the facts, then make up our minds) are "Sheep"
it is rather anyone is a sheep with a leader to lead them, sheep is just another word to describe follower. in this day and age, good leaders are very few. the leaderships i have seen and there have been a lot of them are still infested with corruption, beginning with the highest office in the world, the oval office.

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But these guys make up their mind based on some wildly improbable (actually impossible) claims by paranoid basement youtube crazies - they cherry pick tidbits of non-facts that seem to support their case - they start with a hypothesis then search for any wild conjecture to back up that crazed view and they reject or fail to listen to actual facts and scientific proof.
no, fact. how can people train to fly passenger jets in to the trade center when they trained in club planes? building 7 was probably pulled. former president clinton has a massive intelligence failure to his name.

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YOU are actually the Sheep, you loonies fall for every wacky documentary and youtube piece of propaganda that fits with your pre-conceived notion of how events unfolded.
it is we are the sheep, we are the sheep. you are just a bigger of a sheep for believing your president that he will be more diplomatic with politicians of these big bad rogue nations but instead wants to reach out to no one except iran and currently is asking congress whether the government wants to launch sea or air strikes on a government of a small country that is all of a sudden a threat.

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The fact that you think you are the guys with the "TRUTH" rather than just having questions and healthy skepticism just takes all legitimacy away from your opinions - it's one thing to question the "Official" story but your wild fantasy that you are the holders of the "TRUTH"...well it just makes you look plain crazy.
just who in this thread has made you spit the dummy?
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Here is the most ironic thing about conspiracy nutcases:

They think the we (rational thinking people who actually look at all the facts, then make up our minds) are "Sheep"

But these guys make up their mind based on some wildly improbable (actually impossible) claims by paranoid basement youtube crazies - they cherry pick tidbits of non-facts that seem to support their case - they start with a hypothesis then search for any wild conjecture to back up that crazed view and they reject or fail to listen to actual facts and scientific proof.

YOU are actually the Sheep, you loonies fall for every wacky documentary and youtube piece of propaganda that fits with your pre-conceived notion of how events unfolded.

The fact that you think you are the guys with the "TRUTH" rather than just having questions and healthy skepticism just takes all legitimacy away from your opinions - it's one thing to question the "Official" story but your wild fantasy that you are the holders of the "TRUTH"...well it just makes you look plain crazy.
then you'll have no problem reading and laughing along with this

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-6-we...rned-since-911
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then you'll have no problem reading and laughing along with this

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-6-we...rned-since-911
Great article, thanks!
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Great article, thanks!
been awhile since i have read a decent cracked article, but this one does a great job
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then you'll have no problem reading and laughing along with this

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-6-we...rned-since-911
that's pretty crazy good there.

it made me think about this thread. i think what i'm trying to get at here, granted, as a fully smartass arguer, is that a lot of us are on the same page now. we really are.

i've read jel's comments around here, he distrusts *the government* almost as much as the average gfy ct.

i can relate to that view, you can see that in my comments currently re: the waco tragedy, the president, something else and another thing i can't recall exactly right now but nevertheless, fact is i get it, jel gets it. _richard_ gets it etc.

but we still need to separate ourselves over something that happened 12 years ago. maybe a lot didn't want to believe shit 12 years ago, but a lot of people have woken-up since.

and at the same time, the truther movement hasn't really progressed with anything, let's be real about that. and as pointed out here, the sales pitch to join-up needs some polishing because there's no real incentive to think differently about 9/11 when we're seeing first hand shit like obama going straight to bombs and multi-trillion dollar bank bailouts and snowden revelations and obama saying the nsa is good, etc. et al on & on, blah blah.

you see what i'm saying? let's drop the 9/11 thing as a divisor.
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Old 09-11-2013, 06:37 PM   #42
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i haven't had my dog vaccinated since the ones the breeder gave him before i ever got him 7 years ago.
Every thread I open on here has your words of dumbed down wisdom in it.
Do you post here for self esteem or something?
Nobody gives a rats ass about your dog.
Every time I read your posts I feel the need to take a shit. But you already know that, that's why you post so much, right? You want everybody to run to the can.

...and BTW you're boring as fuck.

Moreover, Who exactly are you trying to impress?

Did i mention you are boring?
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Old 09-11-2013, 06:42 PM   #43
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then you'll have no problem reading and laughing along with this

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-6-we...rned-since-911
didnt read it all but seems like a great thinker and writer - nothing fringe or wacky about his theories unless I missed some stuff
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:41 PM   #44
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my biggest problem with 'truthers' - EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. It's like saying ALL affiliates commit fraud, and ALL sponsors shave/use other dirty tactics.
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:47 PM   #45
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to add to that: You could argue that pretty much everyone on this board has traded links, thereby trying to game Google. Then, argue that because every webmaster has traded at least 1 link, there are zero ethics, zero good biz practice, zero morals, we all love card banging, and blah blah blah, by an outsider to this industry. They would say 'hey, we KNOW you tried to game google, so we KNOW each and every one of you is a cheater, so you're probably ALL slinging c p as well.

We all know the govt's do shady shit, there are backhanders galore in multi-million and billion dollar industries, laws are introduced as cash grabs, and so on. This doesn't mean every fart by a politician has a hidden meaning that only the 'truthers' can see, and that everyone is too stupid to see it. It means 'truthers' are so blinkered and myopic, that reason goes out the window.
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Old 09-11-2013, 08:12 PM   #46
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Old 09-11-2013, 10:23 PM   #48
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Good watch around 9/11 time to remind you why you should have some doubts in general about what really goes on in government. Not conspiracy theories but fact. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/
You where told and lied to about WMD's and went to war over it.
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Old 09-11-2013, 11:21 PM   #49
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Good watch around 9/11 time to remind you why you should have some doubts in general about what really goes on in government. Not conspiracy theories but fact. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/
You where told and lied to about WMD's and went to war over it.
its an act of deception.

the government is telling us there are weapons in a country who are threatening the united states, that country gets invaded but no weapons, then maybe it turns out that there were never any weapons and it was about regime change.
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Events like the USS Liberty are such mockeries.
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