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Sid70 · 09-30-2013, 08:19 AM

As a customer i NEVER go any deeper then redtube or pornhub / porn ... im curious how fucked one must be to go an pay for adult unless you go an extra mile to offer a customer free blow job in reality.

Markul · 09-30-2013, 08:37 AM

Pretty fucked lol

Magnetron · 09-30-2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

As a customer i NEVER go any deeper then redtube or pornhub / porn ... im curious how fucked one must be to go an pay for adult unless you go an extra mile to offer a customer free blow job in reality.

You create our own personal reality with your beliefs.

My personal reality is a result of my beliefs that there are people who will pay for porn that they like, but can't get for free.

So, I advertise that particular porn on my website. It is porn that I likewise like and would be willing to pay for in likewise fashion.

Those people then gravitate to my website because of the Law of Attraction or rather the physics in motion that comprise the concept of Like Attracts Like.

And I make money.

Savvy?

georgeyw · 09-30-2013, 08:42 AM

11 years in adult and you still have this attitude? You are a designer right? Pretty sure I used you once way back when......

Jel · 09-30-2013, 08:45 AM

A bit like asking why/how anyone pays for software.

notinmybackyard · 09-30-2013, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

As a customer i NEVER go any deeper then redtube or pornhub / porn ... im curious how fucked one must be to go an pay for adult unless you go an extra mile to offer a customer free blow job in reality.

What do you consider the old 1970s porn theaters were about ?

Men would pay to come in and watch a film. Then some other man sitting next to him would suck him off. Sometimes couples would enter but mostly it was just men helping each other masturbate or sucking each other off.

Surprisingly the porn film was always staight and the men always claimed to be staight.

Markul · 09-30-2013, 09:06 AM

Oh lol I read the OP so wrong, I thought the paysite offered the surfer a blowjob IRL if they joined and he asked how fucked they were if they offered that

Plenty people pay for porn, I have too. How the fuck would I sell it if I didn't try to sit on the consumer end.

bluebook18 · 09-30-2013, 09:12 AM

Sid70 · 09-30-2013, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnetron

You create our own personal reality with your beliefs.

My personal reality is a result of my beliefs that there are people who will pay for porn that they like, but can't get for free.

So, I advertise that particular porn on my website. It is porn that I likewise like and would be willing to pay for in likewise fashion.

Those people then gravitate to my website because of the Law of Attraction or rather the physics in motion that comprise the concept of Like Attracts Like.

And I make money.

Savvy?

I dunno, I have NEVER met people who pay for porn or want to.

Sid70 · 09-30-2013, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw

11 years in adult and you still have this attitude? You are a designer right? Pretty sure I used you once way back when......

And what? All this time I've been like 'they know what they do, I just to designs for money'. Why should it take me any further then that?

Sid70 · 09-30-2013, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul

Plenty people pay for porn.

And why?

Sly · 09-30-2013, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

And what? All this time I've been like 'they know what they do, I just to designs for money'. Why should it take me any further then that?

If your designs helped your customers sell better, you would be more in demand. As a banner designer, sales and marketing should be in your bag of tricks. Strokes and highlights don't sell.

Sid70 · 09-30-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

What do you consider the old 1970s porn theaters were about ?

Men would pay to come in and watch a film. Then some other man sitting next to him would suck him off. Sometimes couples would enter but mostly it was just men helping each other masturbate or sucking each other off.

Surprisingly the porn film was always staight and the men always claimed to be staight.

Thanks for the historical ref... But seriously a full length porn.com clip delivers all the crap a 'normal heterosexual / homosexual / tardsexual may need for free.... why join?

Markul · 09-30-2013, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

And why?

Because lots of people have money and don't mind paying for quality and to get rid of ads.

Edit: And may all the gods in the world bless them! Their money buys me sofas, tits, cars and other stuff haha

Sid70 · 09-30-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

If your designs helped your customers sell better, you would be more in demand. As a banner designer, sales and marketing should be in your bag of tricks. Strokes and highlights don't sell.

Why are you acting like a fag? Tell what you want straight. There is a legitimate question, why the fuck would I ( who spent a lot of time of my life for this rigid activity ) want to pay to join to see the same shit on repeat, promises and promises, AND MUCH MUCH MORE, FFS.

Sid70 · 09-30-2013, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul

Because lots of people have money and don't mind paying for quality and to get rid of ads.

Edit: And may all the gods in the world bless them! Their money buys me sofas, tits, cars and other stuff haha

I seriously question your statement.

There are countries many blame 'non-paying', it's not because there is no money out there, it's because they can get real slut not a virtual.

Jel · 09-30-2013, 09:26 AM

who cares why? Fact is, they do.

Magnetron · 09-30-2013, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

I dunno, I have NEVER met people who pay for porn or want to.

I never met Jesus Christ, but that doesn't mean he never existed.

There is porn that is not being given away for free and the people that want it are paying for it.

You are thinking in terms of this free porn is no different from that not free porn, which is you ultimately blanketing porn in general with a stereotype. However, is not all the same to someone who is more discriminating than you.

Every person creates their own unique reality, thus not all personal realities are the same.

And if you think you are smarter than those people who pay for porn because you don't spend money on porn, its only because you just believe you are because of your stereotyping.

Kapeesh?

Sid70 · 09-30-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

who cares why? Fact is, they do.

The best answer. I believe in that. They do. Perverts.

Sid70 · 09-30-2013, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnetron

I never met Jesus Christ, but that doesn't mean he never existed.

Stop right there and don't mix a god's gift with scrambled eggs.

And don't BS me with the reality people create for themselves. I cant find a reason to pay as of I dont believe PORN OPERATORS offer anything then MUCH MORE - been witnessing MANY trying to build a bullet off the crap.

Magnetron · 09-30-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Stop right there and don't mix a god's gift with scrambled eggs.

And don't BS me with the reality people create for themselves. I cant find a reason to pay as of I dont believe PORN OPERATORS offer anything then MUCH MORE - been witnessing MANY trying to build a bullet off the crap.

Of course. Your reality supercedes all others. What was I thinking.

Sid70 · 09-30-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnetron

Of course. Your reality supercedes all others. What was I thinking.

What you're trying to tell is that my reality is perverted not those who buy porn after watching a full length xxx movie. Are you telling me the world it THAT sick I dont have a clue about?

mavruda · 09-30-2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnetron

You create our own personal reality with your beliefs.

My personal reality is a result of my beliefs that there are people who will pay for porn that they like, but can't get for free.

So, I advertise that particular porn on my website. It is porn that I likewise like and would be willing to pay for in likewise fashion.

Those people then gravitate to my website because of the Law of Attraction or rather the physics in motion that comprise the concept of Like Attracts Like.

And I make money.

Savvy?

I absolutely LIKE your way of thinking, and I agree with you.

96ukssob · 09-30-2013, 10:24 AM

you could say the same thing about music, tv and movies too.

those that pay for porn are doing so because they either want a better quality or access to a specific niche or niches.

IMO, big tubes killed the "general" or hardcore porn subscribers. a friend of mine used to brag about his $100/mo memberships, how he could download whatever he wanted to, save it to any device, etc.

bean-aid · 09-30-2013, 10:37 AM

Have I just read a thread where not one comment talks about low sales because of the free model except OP?
Well, lets just put some numbers to it then.
Lucky sites get 1% CTR on banner spots on vids. Lucky sponsors convert that 1% at 1:500. Sooooo.... you need 100X500 = 50,000 free wankers viewing your vids to make a sale.

That's really not that good is it? And that 1:500 ratio i'm talking is niche stuff, not so available stuff.

Terrible numbers, numbers that will, and is, putting program after program out of business.

Magnetron · 09-30-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

What you're trying to tell is that my reality is perverted not those who buy porn after watching a full length xxx movie. Are you telling me the world it THAT sick I dont have a clue about?

I'm not even going to pretend I have a clue what the fuck you just wrote.

You go right on believing that all porn is the same, thus not worth paying for because some of it is free and that anyone who pays for it is fucked up in the head unlike you.

Just leave the task of selling of it to others and everything is Okie Dokie.

Jel · 09-30-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

Have I just read a thread where not one comment talks about low sales because of the free model except OP?
Well, lets just put some numbers to it then.
Lucky sites get 1% CTR on banner spots on vids. Lucky sponsors convert that 1% at 1:500. Sooooo.... you need 100X500 = 50,000 free wankers viewing your vids to make a sale.

That's really not that good is it? And that 1:500 ratio i'm talking is niche stuff, not so available stuff.

Terrible numbers, numbers that will, and is, putting program after program out of business.

this thread isn't about low sales though is it - it's about the fact that even a single person buys a porn membership, and how that is possible.

Magnetron · 09-30-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mavruda

I absolutely LIKE your way of thinking, and I agree with you.

And you are an artist and I just happen to draw.

What's not to like about like attracting like?

Sid70 · 09-30-2013, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnetron

And you are an artist and I just happen to draw.

What's not to like about like attracting like?

This cracks me up. Artists lol.

Sid70 · 09-30-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bossku69

you could say the same thing about music, tv and movies too.

those that pay for porn are doing so because they either want a better quality or access to a specific niche or niches.

IMO, big tubes killed the "general" or hardcore porn subscribers. a friend of mine used to brag about his $100/mo memberships, how he could download whatever he wanted to, save it to any device, etc.

No. I would disagree. Buying porn is unnatural to me. And I do know anyone around doing that. Who are those people paying for porn?

I understand getting a hooker but paying a cam girl or joining the tube is unnatural.

Like are they that miserable they can't get a cock up watching a free flick?

Sid70 · 09-30-2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnetron

I'm not even going to pretend I have a clue what the fuck you just wrote.

So, why then even answer in this thread, move on.

Sid70 · 09-30-2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bluebook18

Sid70 · 09-30-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

Have I just read a thread where not one comment talks about low sales because of the free model except OP?
Well, lets just put some numbers to it then.
Lucky sites get 1% CTR on banner spots on vids. Lucky sponsors convert that 1% at 1:500. Sooooo.... you need 100X500 = 50,000 free wankers viewing your vids to make a sale.

That's really not that good is it? And that 1:500 ratio i'm talking is niche stuff, not so available stuff.

Terrible numbers, numbers that will, and is, putting program after program out of business.

Killer stats. As a designer I didn't know things went this miserable. Sorry.

bean-aid · 09-30-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

this thread isn't about low sales though is it - it's about the fact that even a single person buys a porn membership, and how that is possible.

It is about low sales. The question was:

"As a customer i NEVER go any deeper then redtube or pornhub / porn ... im curious how fucked one must be to go an pay for adult unless you go an extra mile to offer a customer free blow job in reality."

So he is talking about why ever pay if redtube or porhub exist to give it away. And I answered that... the answer is most don't. A good converting niche site will make a sale every 50,000 freeloaders from said traffic (viewing the actual sponsor vid)... +/- obviously. But that number is pretty spot on accurate.

Carry on ladies... why even that 1 in 50,000 pays is beyond me as well. It soon will be 1 in 100,000... then 1 in 1,000,000 and so on.

Jel · 09-30-2013, 02:22 PM

^ yeah ok...

bean-aid · 09-30-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel

^ yeah ok...

What part? And remember... talk numbers.

Answer which one is false?

1) 1% CTR ratio
2) 1:500 conversion on said 1% CTR

Now, that is exactly 50,000 surfers viewing your vid. Right? Did I get that wrong.
100 surfers at 1% = 1 surfer. Conversions of 1:500 you would need to multiply 500X100. So if you multiply correctly, you make it 5 and add four 0's. If you add only three 0's that would be 5,000... but remember, you must add four 0's for the math to work.

So if you don't believe me, then my numbers above... 1 or 2, is false. So which one is wrong?

Or is 1:50,000 going to 1:100,000 too far fetched an idea for you?

Jel · 09-30-2013, 02:37 PM

the part where he asked why 1 person anywhere would ever buy, and you talking about ratios.

I agree totally with the numbers (except for the extra 2% type-ins, which change the numbers somewhat, so scrap that agreeing part), but that has fuck all to do with the topic. I might as well spout the 80/20 rule and how that works, for the relevance that has to this thread.

Jel · 09-30-2013, 02:38 PM

not to mention 'most don't' is not the same as no-one ever pays.

notinmybackyard · 09-30-2013, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Thanks for the historical ref... But seriously a full length porn.com clip delivers all the crap a 'normal heterosexual / homosexual / tardsexual may need for free.... why join?

Truthfully they are not.
What is happening in the industry right now is the hunt for suckers.

It is the same kind of game that these Nigerian scammers play when they send you those emails about having a million dollars hidden in a bank and they need you to help them get it. They spend all day contacting thousands waiting for one gulliable fool to put some money in the pocket.

Obviously some people play this game better than others. But in the end it is pretty much an honest assesment of the majority of Internet porn industry

bean-aid · 09-30-2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

As a customer i NEVER go any deeper then redtube or pornhub / porn ... im curious how fucked one must be to go an pay for adult unless you go an extra mile to offer a customer free blow job in reality.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

the part where he asked why 1 person anywhere would ever buy, and you talking about ratios.

I agree totally with the numbers (except for the extra 2% type-ins, which change the numbers somewhat, so scrap that agreeing part), but that has fuck all to do with the topic. I might as well spout the 80/20 rule and how that works, for the relevance that has to this thread.

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Originally Posted by Jel

not to mention 'most don't' is not the same as no-one ever pays.

Usually the first post is the question or statement. Where does he say no-one in that statement? He is saying... who the hell would buy with free tubes being enough?

I answered with stats. It is exactly an appropriate response and has *fuck all* and everything related to this thread

Struggle4Bucks · 09-30-2013, 03:33 PM

People that watch free porntubes most be masochists with all the fucking pop- up/under/sideways and what not more the fuck...

I tried it a couple of minutes... and then i was like... get me the fuck out of this shitty cheap-ass tube experience... And i'm sure i'm not the only one... who wants to wank to ads?

SilentKnight · 09-30-2013, 04:01 PM

The wife and I still go to the movie theatre on a fairly frequent basis and still rent them/buy them on blu-ray.

I still buy music CDs (latest one was Van Halen - ADKOT) even though I could easily rip the audio for free from a YouTube upload.

I still pay for the occasional adult site - bought a subscrip to Met-Art not long ago.

Why?

Cause I can. A part of me doesn't mind supporting the performing arts industry - whether it be music, movies...or yeah, the adult industry. As a photographer, the creative artist in me likes to give back to something that's given me enjoyment over the years. I can appreciate the time, work and effort of those "on stage" (so to speak)...as opposed to just those in the audience.

SexyDumps · 09-30-2013, 04:30 PM

Honestly, it doesn't matter what you are selling on the internet. Impulsive buying is human nature and there is always someone that must have your product NOW. It's all in how you draw people in to get them to crack open their wallet. Sure, dishing out free porn has had an impact on the industry, but nudie pics/videos still generate a hefty revenue.

Bottom Line:
I don't care why people buy porno as long as they keep on doing it.

winter_ · 09-30-2013, 05:07 PM

you go to an adult shop now not an online shop, but a building, and dvd's (all dvd's) sit there for months on end. the internet boom has taken a hell of a lot of business away to how pornography used to be before the information superhighway got involved. the internet is like, information, then pornography, or rather more commonly regarded as general piracy since (if you believe dotcom) the man up in washington biden decided to bust his balls.

i was saying to someone the other day in some situation in town, how does it go, money makes the world go round? that is the system for you, but it doesn't have to be. it is a system, that i believe also provides vague guidance and restraint for mankind's greed in taking but giving nothing back and also devil seeded hate in some that i still to this day just can't fully understand.

people thought back in the fifties that orwell's 1984 was all going to happen in 1984. if you go to the london metro areas you will have a camera watching you around every corner. orwell might be just shy of visionary, but i don't know.

arock10 · 09-30-2013, 05:09 PM

Porn isn't consumed rationally

SilentKnight · 09-30-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by winter_

you go to an adult shop now not an online shop, but a building, and dvd's (all dvd's) sit there for months on end. the internet boom has taken a hell of a lot of business away to how pornography used to be before the information superhighway got involved. the internet is like, information, then pornography, or rather more commonly regarded as general piracy since (if you believe dotcom) the man up in washington biden decided to bust his balls.

i was saying to someone the other day in some situation in town, how does it go, money makes the world go round? that is the system for you, but it doesn't have to be. it is a system, that i believe also provides vague guidance and restraint for mankind's greed in taking but giving nothing back and also devil seeded hate in some that i still to this day just can't fully understand.

people thought back in the fifties that orwell's 1984 was all going to happen in 1984. if you go to the london metro areas you will have a camera watching you around every corner. orwell might be just shy of visionary, but i don't know.

Struggle4Bucks · 09-30-2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Man... even with a cute face like that... she becomes very unattractive when you hear her talk... To a point i would just turn around and walk away

SilentKnight · 09-30-2013, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

Man... even with a cute face like that... she becomes very unattractive when you hear her talk... To a point i would just turn around and walk away

Naw, I'd accessorize her...with a ballgag.

Struggle4Bucks · 09-30-2013, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Naw, I'd accessorize her...with a ballgag.

Damn you're right... how did i not think about that?

mavruda · 10-02-2013, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

This cracks me up. Artists lol.

09-30-2013, 08:19 AM	#1
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Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	who cares why? Fact is, they do.

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bean-aid So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: the land of woke sleuths Posts: 16,493	Have I just read a thread where not one comment talks about low sales because of the free model except OP? Well, lets just put some numbers to it then. Lucky sites get 1% CTR on banner spots on vids. Lucky sponsors convert that 1% at 1:500. Sooooo.... you need 100X500 = 50,000 free wankers viewing your vids to make a sale. That's really not that good is it? And that 1:500 ratio i'm talking is niche stuff, not so available stuff. Terrible numbers, numbers that will, and is, putting program after program out of business.

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Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	^ yeah ok...

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Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	the part where he asked why 1 person anywhere would ever buy, and you talking about ratios. I agree totally with the numbers (except for the extra 2% type-ins, which change the numbers somewhat, so scrap that agreeing part), but that has fuck all to do with the topic. I might as well spout the 80/20 rule and how that works, for the relevance that has to this thread.

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