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Old 10-05-2013, 11:54 AM   #51
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Probably because the ins. companies will now have to insure people that pre-obamacare they did not want to - because of their costly medical conditions - they need to make up for it by raising costs (lowering coverage) overall
But at the same time it will go down because the markets are opening up AND people can finally choose who to get care with.
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Old 10-05-2013, 11:58 AM   #52
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Is there documentation for this, or do you take what Donald Trump says at face value?
http://watchdog.org/92975/irs-leviat...rce-obamacare/

'That task will require new agents — 6,700, the IRS figures — and more money — about $1 billion more than the current budget.'

'Confronted with the tax agency’s 9-percent increase in its 2014 budget, House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wisc., blasted Deputy IRS Commissioner Daniel Werfel at a meeting of the House Committee on Ways and Means Thursday morning.

After reading off a long list of instances of waste, fraud, excess and abuse at the agency over the past several years, Ryan demanded to know how the IRS felt it had the “moral authority” to ask for more money. He actually sounded almost hurt by the request.

Werfel meekly responded that the additional funding was essential to the agency’s expanded enforcement mandate.'
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Old 10-05-2013, 12:05 PM   #53
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After reading off a long list of instances of waste, fraud, excess and abuse at the agency over the past several years, Ryan demanded to know how the IRS felt it had the ?moral authority? to ask for more money. He actually sounded almost hurt by the request.
Someone from Congress said that? Now that's funny.
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Old 10-05-2013, 12:06 PM   #54
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Someone from Congress said that? Now that's funny.
Paul Ryan, which makes it even funnier

what's sad, of course, is he's right.
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Old 10-05-2013, 12:41 PM   #55
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It's not that the doctor can't, but... When you reach the point where the healthcare costs more than the employee's salary, something is wrong there.
There is no way your insurance costs more then a grand a month, and if your wife makes less then that, why bother working. She could post on gfy and make a grand.
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Old 10-05-2013, 03:48 PM   #56
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There is no way your insurance costs more then a grand a month, and if your wife makes less then that, why bother working. She could post on gfy and make a grand.
Someone is WAY behind on their payments to me....
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Old 10-05-2013, 04:01 PM   #57
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There is no way your insurance costs more then a grand a month, and if your wife makes less then that, why bother working. She could post on gfy and make a grand.
Why bother working because she could sit here on GFY and make a grand? Then she wouldn't have health benefits. At least working for the doctor she makes more than a grand a month AND has health benefits.

I don't know how much the health benefits were, but when they looked four years ago or so it was nearly as much as what my wife was making.
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Old 10-05-2013, 04:50 PM   #58
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'That task will require new agents ? 6,700, the IRS figures ? and more money ? about $1 billion more than the current budget.'

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Ok, but last I checked, 6,700 <> 16,000 (Trump's claim). So my question to Onwebcam stands: Is there documentation for this, or do you take what Donald Trump says at face value?
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:00 PM   #59
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YOU just said "Will it increase the healthcare costs for some people? I'm sure it will."
Congrats on your fundamental understanding of how insurance works. Indeed, insurance is pooled risk. All pay into it and some will utilize it more than others. Maybe you won't utilize it much but your sibling will. It is just like car insurance, it doesn't drop to zero if you do not have any claims. It is a guaranteed fact though, that the vast majority of us, over our lifetime, will consume almost as much, or more than we put in. That is why insurance companies invest premiums to make the pool larger.

I guest next you will argue that since investing is a zero sum game, when insurance companies are up on their investments, the guy that is down is getting screwed.
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:10 PM   #60
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Ok, but last I checked, 6,700 <> 16,000 (Trump's claim). So my question to Onwebcam stands: Is there documentation for this, or do you take what Donald Trump says at face value?
It is pretty much always a safe bet to be on the other side of whatever Trump is. The guy has been reduced to licensing his name and ripping people off. He exaggerates everything, including his net worth. Then there all of the bankruptcies. Plus that whole birth certificate mess where he repeatedly lied.

Only a fool listens to anything Trump says. No wonder onwebcam does.
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:16 PM   #61
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It is pretty much always a safe bet to be on the other side of whatever Trump is. The guy has been reduced to licensing his name and ripping people off. He exaggerates everything, including his net worth. Then there all of the bankruptcies. Plus that whole birth certificate mess where he repeatedly lied.

Only a fool listens to anything Trump says. No wonder onwebcam does.
Regurgitating quotes from a colossal bullshit artist doesn't exactly earn ya "smart guy" points.
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:47 PM   #62
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Just got back from a night out and a few beers with a friend who works for a large computer manufacturer and has good coverage through them. We always get into politics and he's pro-obamacare but during our conversation he asked me why I think his life saving medication went from $23 every 90 days to $248 every 90 days recently. I said "welcome to obamacare."
So someone did find a downside.

Your friends medicine if it's true has gone up with 1078%.

I think that's a bit of a too high raise for your friends medicine, just to finance obamacare.

I wonder what the percentage is for other medicines?

Anywhere you can read about that?
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But at the same time it will go down because the markets are opening up AND people can finally choose who to get care with.
i guess you were right when you said you don't know the details.
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So someone did find a downside.

Your friends medicine if it's true has gone up with 1078%.

I think that's a bit of a too high raise for your friends medicine, just to finance obamacare.

I wonder what the percentage is for other medicines?

Anywhere you can read about that?
http://cbo.gov/sites/default/files/c...ug_pricing.pdf
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So you're not going to address the Donald Trump thing I asked about nearly a day ago?
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Old 10-05-2013, 07:28 PM   #66
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i guess you were right when you said you don't know the details.
Isn't this a huge part of the plan? New companies will be able to operate in new areas, allowing for increased competition. Everything will be handled through exchanges, where we can compare costs, and the ones with the lowest costs will win. Just the fact that people who have pre-exisiting conditions will be able to change healthcare providers is going to make a huge impact.
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It is pretty much always a safe bet to be on the other side of whatever Trump is. The guy has been reduced to licensing his name and ripping people off. He exaggerates everything, including his net worth. Then there all of the bankruptcies. Plus that whole birth certificate mess where he repeatedly lied.

Only a fool listens to anything Trump says. No wonder onwebcam does.
Trump is great. He's made a career out of blowing other people's money. He borrows money to build huge buildings, then charges huge amounts to supervise construction and then run it into the ground. The vast majority of his projects eventually fail, and he walks away slightly richer.
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There is no way your insurance costs more then a grand a month, and if your wife makes less then that, why bother working. She could post on gfy and make a grand.
MojoHost considers good health insurance a core value. We pay $600 premiums for our single employees, $1200 for employees with spouses and $1800 for employees with families - monthly. Once I finish getting the facts about how Obamacare affects us, I think I'll start a thread. From what I've been told thus far, it's horrendous and penalizes us as an employer and our employees for providing such a rich suite of benefits and paying all of our employee & family premiums.

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MojoHost considers good health insurance a core value. We pay $600 premiums for our single employees, $1200 for employees with spouses and $1800 for employees with families - monthly. Once I finish getting the facts about how Obamacare affects us, I think I'll start a thread. From what I've been told thus far, it's horrendous and penalizes us as an employer and our employees for providing such a rich suite of benefits and paying all of our employee & family premiums.

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MojoHost considers good health insurance a core value. We pay $600 premiums for our single employees, $1200 for employees with spouses and $1800 for employees with families - monthly. Once I finish getting the facts about how Obamacare affects us, I think I'll start a thread. From what I've been told thus far, it's horrendous and penalizes us as an employer and our employees for providing such a rich suite of benefits and paying all of our employee & family premiums.

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So you get a fine for not buying a private companies product? You don't buy it you are a criminal. Why not make it a law that you have to buy a Ford. If not you get a fine or buy a new apple iPhone or you get a fine.
Same shit . Illegal, unconstitutional and Unamerican.
They can't pass a law that violates the constitution.
It violates the 4th and 5th amendments.
4th to be secure in you documents(you don't have to share them with anybody)
5th the right to remain silent(in order to sign up for anything you have to speak, but you have the right to remain silent)
my advice, shut up, ignore it, don't give any information. let it fail and vote out the democrats until they repeal it.
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Trump is great. He's made a career out of blowing other people's money. He borrows money to build huge buildings, then charges huge amounts to supervise construction and then run it into the ground. The vast majority of his projects eventually fail, and he walks away slightly richer.
When you hear the thoughts he strings together, it's almost impossible to believe he got rich on his own. Maybe he shits money.
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