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Fat Panda · 10-14-2013, 08:53 AM

analog porn is dead. time to get with the times people

mikesouth · 10-14-2013, 09:12 AM

Isnt kim nielson on the advisory board of asacp?
http://www.asacp.org/index.php?content=aboutus

opflix · 10-14-2013, 10:06 AM

i met Kim in my first couple years in the biz...took me out, treated me to lunch and taught me lot about how to run a successful members website. it is disappointing to see things like this happen so i hope it all works out for the best. cheers.

gracesfall · 10-14-2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Lol...that made me spit coolatta. It's a good thing I turned away from the laptop!

Why · 10-14-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Scumbags and thieves always win awards in this industry.

quoted for truth

DeanCapture · 10-16-2013, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sinclair

As a follow up I did (finally) receive an email from Kim on Friday apologizing and assuring me that a "payment" was hopefully forthcoming.

This is good news man......hopefully this gets resolved soon

Nikki_Licks · 10-16-2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Isnt kim nielson on the advisory board of asacp?
http://www.asacp.org/index.php?content=aboutus

Don't forget the secret board they deny having ;)

Jay-Rock · 10-17-2013, 09:02 AM

I just come across this thread is sad to see this. Its only a matter of time before other companies will start losing their footing in this biz.

Grapesoda · 10-17-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay-Rock

I just come across this thread is sad to see this. Its only a matter of time before other companies will start losing their footing in this biz.

interesting edit ;)

slapass · 10-17-2013, 10:33 AM

Wow! Not sure about others but their are some brands that I thought were immune to the goings on in the industry. Sorry to see this as these guys were golden back in the day.

sinclair · 10-17-2013, 01:11 PM

Wanted to post an update to my situation. Since starting this thread, Kim contacted me and made good on a partial payment. About a third of what is owed, no info as to if/when I can expect the balance due.

I have received a few emails from others in a similar situation. Hopefully everyone will get taken care of. I will keep everyone posted in this thread until I am paid in full. I would encourage others to chime in as well.

thanks for the support.

tobephoto · 12-25-2013, 05:37 PM

He owes me over 18k.

DeanCapture · 12-25-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tobephoto

He owes me over 18k.

Tobe good luck with this man.

Can you shoot me over an email? My email is in my sig.

Thanks & Happy Holidays!!!

MaDalton · 12-25-2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tobephoto

He owes me over 18k.

merry christmas?

that sucks...

gabe100 · 12-25-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tobephoto

He owes me over 18k.

Best of luck to you.

Perhaps the DOZEN ATK shooters here alone on GFY, not counting the other DOZEN not here, can chime in and mention something to the contrary.

Jim_Gunn · 12-26-2013, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gabe100

Best of luck to you.

Perhaps the DOZEN ATK shooters here alone on GFY, not counting the other DOZEN not here, can chime in and mention something to the contrary.

Most of the other producers not posting are probably afraid of not getting paid eventually if they join the chorus. In fairness I should update since my earlier diatribe a couple of months ago and report that I personally got a few partial payments so far. Hoping to collect the rest in 2014.

AaronM · 12-26-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by gabe100

Best of luck to you.

Perhaps the DOZEN ATK shooters here alone on GFY, not counting the other DOZEN not here, can chime in and mention something to the contrary.

Since my last update here, I've been paid in full.

Rochard · 12-26-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sinclair

I really hate to take something like this to the boards but I am getting no communication from Kim or anyone at ATKingdom concerning past due invoices. I was getting promises of payments initially that never came in, followed by no communication at all via phone, text, or email. These are beyond the 120 day mark.

These are shoots that were ordered and are confirmed in use in the members area. I've shot for them for close to 10 years and have never been treated this way, there have been late payments along the way but communication was consistent. Recently finding out from others shooting for them it has become an issues as well.

Should Kim or anyone at ATK care to address this I am all ears and have been more than patient. If not I will pursue other courses of action, but shooters be warned.

Sinclair

Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.

Sly · 12-26-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.

Good luck to everyone in this thread, especially Rochard.

dyna mo · 12-26-2013, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.

that's entertainment?

MaDalton · 12-26-2013, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.

<<sigh>>

pornguy · 12-26-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent

No itsa not dead Im making money. You just gotta have a brain and adapt

Dont even bother. Its so much more entertaining to bitch.

JustDaveXxx · 12-26-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Good luck to everyone in this thread, especially Rochard.

Agreed

I don't have a dog in this, but I have a friend who didn't get paid for work done. He chalked it up as a loss and and learning experience. As a result, won't ever do work without payment 1st.

I never say anything when it doesn't concern me, but when a Vet like Jim Gunn chimes in, it gets real really fast.

I won't bash or talk about things I know nothing about, but Im guessing its issues with collections and a state of our business.

I do believe if ATK had the money read ally available, shooters would be paid, but I feel that companies make less and have less.

Sucks! Hope things get resolved.

Just Dave

sinclair · 12-26-2013, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.

Glad you have had positive dealings with them. As did I for ten years prior to my posting. I think I made my reticence on bringing this public apparent.

I also had it on good authority at the time of posting some shooters were getting paid and some were not, so I think my title was dead on. The fact that others chimed in and even more sent me emails directly further supports my title.

I'm sorry you've never heard of me I shall try harder to earn your attention. Maybe another ten years shooting and I will win your love daddy?

johnnyloadproductions · 12-26-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

<<sigh>>

No shit, at least his very nature makes it so Paul isn't just talking to himself.

Jim_Gunn · 12-27-2013, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.

Rochard, I like you and all as far as I know you from the shows and such. But you're totally out of line here. Your personal experience as an affiliate or whatever is completely irrelevant. It seems like you didn't even read the thread up to this point. Because if anything the original poster understated the problem as he wrote it. There are at least three producers in this thread alone who posted their own tales of woe and believe me there are more out there still silently seething.

Based on the feedback I got a couple of months ago after my diatribe here on the board and via phone calls that I received from people that had never previously called me in my life at the time, I think most people rightly believed every single word I said too. I provided my follow up earlier that I have indeed gotten some payments so far, but the issues are ongoing for me and others even at this point as we are about to cross into a new year.

sinclair · 01-23-2014, 12:47 PM

Wanted to update this thread as I mentioned I would keep everyone informed.

As of last week, my remaining balance has been paid in full. Again I would like to say how difficult it was to bring this to the boards after a 10+ year relationship, but in my case it appears to have helped.

I am still getting emails and phone calls that others are still dealing with this and I wish them well, hopefully this post and the social media blasts will help them as well.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 01-23-2014, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sinclair

Wanted to update this thread as I mentioned I would keep everyone informed.

As of last week, my remaining balance has been paid in full. Again I would like to say how difficult it was to bring this to the boards after a 10+ year relationship, but in my case it appears to have helped.

I am still getting emails and phone calls that others are still dealing with this and I wish them well, hopefully this post and the social media blasts will help them as well.

Good to hear that your issue was finally resolved.

ADG

Jim_Gunn · 01-23-2014, 03:05 PM

I was pleasantly surprised at how many respected industry players pulled me aside at Internext last week to ask me about this debacle. Made me feel good about my reputation that even people who hardly know me but know the other party well seemed to believe every word I had written too. I wouldn't be surprised if the ramifications of this are going to last well beyond settling up.

Anyway, in fairness I should also update- I've been getting smallish payments every week or two for the last four months. I'm still owed nearly $8500 as of today though. Just waiting it out until it all gets paid off.

Gringo1 · 02-03-2014, 01:06 PM

ATK owes me several thousand dollars and I've been wating over 4 months-- Very bad communication-- Hope I get paid some day

JustDaveXxx · 02-03-2014, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I was pleasantly surprised at how many respected industry players pulled me aside at Internext last week to ask me about this debacle. Made me feel good about my reputation that even people who hardly know me but know the other party well seemed to believe every word I had written too. I wouldn't be surprised if the ramifications of this are going to last well beyond settling up.

Anyway, in fairness I should also update- I've been getting smallish payments every week or two for the last four months. I'm still owed nearly $8500 as of today though. Just waiting it out until it all gets paid off.

I heard through the Grape vine; That multiple shooters have been getting paid as a result of this thread.

When stand up producers say something, seems that shit gets done.

Have to give Kudos to ATK for making good. Small payments and open communications is better than nothing.

Just Dave

NEW XTC · 02-03-2014, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

Your thread title says "ATK not paying some of it's shooters" when the truth is this is a billing dispute with one shooter.

So you started your thread with a lie in it's title.

This pretty much says it all for me right there. A photographer I've never heard of is bashing a company I've done business with on multiple levels for a decade and I've never had a problem with.

a lie.

every shooter I know says the same thing about ATK

bashing...jesus

Clark · 03-11-2014, 11:49 AM

bump
Kim owes me a few grand + 2 shooters not mentioned in this thread that I am aware of are still owed.

sinclair · 03-11-2014, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

I heard through the Grape vine; That multiple shooters have been getting paid as a result of this thread.

You're welcome.

Good luck to those still waiting...and waiting.

Clark · 03-12-2014, 03:51 PM

strange reaction by Kim....calls a friend to complain that I bumped this thread but doesn't email/call me to say there's a payment on the way. not that i'd believe it at this point...but still.

tobephoto · 07-04-2014, 07:47 AM

Kim has stopped payments and response to emails for the last two months.
Other photogs have same problem?
My attorney is ready at any time to proceed, but I will try to be more patient.

Pseudonymous · 07-04-2014, 08:05 AM

Sounds like quite the business they got going on over there.

DeanCapture · 07-04-2014, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tobephoto

Kim has stopped payments and response to emails for the last two months.
Other photogs have same problem?
My attorney is ready at any time to proceed, but I will try to be more patient.

Good luck buddy. So sad to hear that you're still wrangling with this matter

Jim_Gunn · 07-04-2014, 06:24 PM

You might be waiting a while longer to get paid unfortunately. Kim's been going hog wild spending our money on business acquisitions, travel and getting laid instead of paying his bills. I heard direct from the agents and models that he's overpaying $2400 per shoot to fuck porn chicks in Vegas, LA and even flying them out to exotic Hawaii so he can get pussy on other peoples' dime. And when he really fancies the girl he's needlessly booking them multiple times to the tune of up to $12k apiece just to keep them around for his amusement.

I've been getting paid off in dribs and drabs every couple of months for over a year now. My now still almost $4,000 balance is overdue by 14 months at this point. We're just not a priority to Kim and he clearly doesn't care about his reputation or abhorrent business practices. At this rate I'll be lucky see the rest of what I'm owed by 2015.

NaughtyRob · 07-04-2014, 06:26 PM

Thats fucked up. I'm glad I never started shooting for him.

sinclair · 07-07-2014, 10:48 AM

Hoping Tobe, Jim and any others get paid there due. Since starting this thread I have been paid off in full. However, I am hearing (from third parties) that he continues to talk smack on me for starting this thread so expect your reputations to be attacked for expecting to be paid.

ezgirl · 08-29-2016, 08:51 AM

So, some of you got paid, others didn't. There is more to this story which lingers on to this day...

Adnium_Ivana · 08-29-2016, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

God I loved The Craft as an angsty preteen. Never liked Nancy though - knew girls like her in HS

Paul Markham · 08-29-2016, 11:21 PM

He would never pay up front, so we never shot for him. Credit is earned. Not given to anyone who asks.

Seriously these guys were such bad payers and paid such low prices. I could never figure out why people shot for them and gave them credit. Location, equipment, model, makeup, extras are all paid on the day or before the shoot.

To shoot content that's worth at least twice as much if sold via a content store. And the money keeps coming day in day out for years.

NatalieK · 08-30-2016, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

via a content store. And the money keeps coming day in day out for years.

reminds me, I must update our ac content store

romeo22 · 08-30-2016, 12:24 AM

Everyone does.its sooner or later

mikesouth · 08-30-2016, 12:43 PM

I got a request to do yet another story on him because he isnt paying...come on guys at what point do yall wake up and realize that you aint special...he isnt going to pay you just like he hasnt paid how many others over the years...look at the date of the OP.....if you wanna shoot for ATK....do it COD I know I would.

ReggieDurango · 11-22-2016, 12:21 AM

might as well bump this ole classic

10-14-2013, 09:12 AM	#52
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	Isnt kim nielson on the advisory board of asacp? http://www.asacp.org/index.php?content=aboutus __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

10-14-2013, 10:06 AM	#53
opflix Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: HELL Posts: 1,428	i met Kim in my first couple years in the biz...took me out, treated me to lunch and taught me lot about how to run a successful members website. it is disappointing to see things like this happen so i hope it all works out for the best. cheers. __________________ Social Escrow - Buying & Selling Accounts? Contact Me \| Social Escrow IG

10-17-2013, 09:02 AM	#58
Jay-Rock Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Porn Valley Posts: 2,779	I just come across this thread is sad to see this. Its only a matter of time before other companies will start losing their footing in this biz. __________________ HD and 4k Content Production by JayRock http://jayspov.net http://blackforwife.com http://cospimps.com SKYPE JAYROCKCONTENT [email protected] Twitter @jayrockcontent Last edited by Jay-Rock; 10-17-2013 at 09:10 AM..

10-17-2013, 01:11 PM	#61
sinclair Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,431	Wanted to post an update to my situation. Since starting this thread, Kim contacted me and made good on a partial payment. About a third of what is owed, no info as to if/when I can expect the balance due. I have received a few emails from others in a similar situation. Hopefully everyone will get taken care of. I will keep everyone posted in this thread until I am paid in full. I would encourage others to chime in as well. thanks for the support. __________________ -- skype:vmgsinclair "Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human sex."

12-25-2013, 05:37 PM	#62
tobephoto Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 108	I have kept quite for years... He owes me over 18k. __________________ [[url]http://www.mensbestsecrets.com Thanks, Tobe

10-14-2013, 08:53 AM	#51
Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,295	analog porn is dead. time to get with the times people

10-17-2013, 10:33 AM	#60
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Wow! Not sure about others but their are some brands that I thought were immune to the goings on in the industry. Sorry to see this as these guys were golden back in the day.

01-23-2014, 12:47 PM	#77
sinclair Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,431	Wanted to update this thread as I mentioned I would keep everyone informed. As of last week, my remaining balance has been paid in full. Again I would like to say how difficult it was to bring this to the boards after a 10+ year relationship, but in my case it appears to have helped. I am still getting emails and phone calls that others are still dealing with this and I wish them well, hopefully this post and the social media blasts will help them as well. __________________ -- skype:vmgsinclair "Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human sex."

01-23-2014, 03:05 PM	#79
Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	I was pleasantly surprised at how many respected industry players pulled me aside at Internext last week to ask me about this debacle. Made me feel good about my reputation that even people who hardly know me but know the other party well seemed to believe every word I had written too. I wouldn't be surprised if the ramifications of this are going to last well beyond settling up. Anyway, in fairness I should also update- I've been getting smallish payments every week or two for the last four months. I'm still owed nearly $8500 as of today though. Just waiting it out until it all gets paid off. __________________ Jim Gunn Filming Cinematic Porn Skype JimGunnProductions Last edited by Jim_Gunn; 01-23-2014 at 03:07 PM..

02-03-2014, 01:06 PM	#80
Gringo1 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 41	ATK owes me several thousand dollars and I've been wating over 4 months-- Very bad communication-- Hope I get paid some day Last edited by Gringo1; 02-03-2014 at 01:11 PM..

03-11-2014, 11:49 AM	#83
Clark Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: L.A. Posts: 334	bump Kim owes me a few grand + 2 shooters not mentioned in this thread that I am aware of are still owed. __________________ The 2 rules for success: 1. Never reveal everything you know 2.

03-12-2014, 03:51 PM	#85
Clark Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: L.A. Posts: 334	strange reaction by Kim....calls a friend to complain that I bumped this thread but doesn't email/call me to say there's a payment on the way. not that i'd believe it at this point...but still. __________________ The 2 rules for success: 1. Never reveal everything you know 2.

07-04-2014, 07:47 AM	#86
tobephoto Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 108	Kims Payments and Communication have stopped Kim has stopped payments and response to emails for the last two months. Other photogs have same problem? My attorney is ready at any time to proceed, but I will try to be more patient. __________________ [[url]http://www.mensbestsecrets.com Thanks, Tobe

07-04-2014, 08:05 AM	#87
Pseudonymous Photographer/Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 2,661	Sounds like quite the business they got going on over there. __________________ Previous owner of SoloRevenue Previous product manager @ Modelcentro.com/MCProfits.com, IsMyGirl.com, SMRevenue.com

07-04-2014, 06:24 PM	#89
Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	You might be waiting a while longer to get paid unfortunately. Kim's been going hog wild spending our money on business acquisitions, travel and getting laid instead of paying his bills. I heard direct from the agents and models that he's overpaying $2400 per shoot to fuck porn chicks in Vegas, LA and even flying them out to exotic Hawaii so he can get pussy on other peoples' dime. And when he really fancies the girl he's needlessly booking them multiple times to the tune of up to $12k apiece just to keep them around for his amusement. I've been getting paid off in dribs and drabs every couple of months for over a year now. My now still almost $4,000 balance is overdue by 14 months at this point. We're just not a priority to Kim and he clearly doesn't care about his reputation or abhorrent business practices. At this rate I'll be lucky see the rest of what I'm owed by 2015. __________________ Jim Gunn Filming Cinematic Porn Skype JimGunnProductions

07-04-2014, 06:26 PM	#90
NaughtyRob Two fresh affiliate progs Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Inside teen pussy Posts: 29,602	Thats fucked up. I'm glad I never started shooting for him. __________________ [email protected] Skype: 17026955414 Vacares Web Hosting - Protect Your Ass with Included Daily Backups

07-07-2014, 10:48 AM	#91
sinclair Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,431	Hoping Tobe, Jim and any others get paid there due. Since starting this thread I have been paid off in full. However, I am hearing (from third parties) that he continues to talk smack on me for starting this thread so expect your reputations to be attacked for expecting to be paid. __________________ -- skype:vmgsinclair "Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human sex."

08-29-2016, 08:51 AM	#92
ezgirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: southern California - NOT Porn Valley Posts: 278	Here is a bump for this thread, producer still not getting paid... So, some of you got paid, others didn't. There is more to this story which lingers on to this day... __________________ E-mail: ezgirlproducer at yahoo dot com

08-29-2016, 11:21 PM	#94
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	He would never pay up front, so we never shot for him. Credit is earned. Not given to anyone who asks. Seriously these guys were such bad payers and paid such low prices. I could never figure out why people shot for them and gave them credit. Location, equipment, model, makeup, extras are all paid on the day or before the shoot. To shoot content that's worth at least twice as much if sold via a content store. And the money keeps coming day in day out for years. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

08-30-2016, 12:24 AM	#96
romeo22 你自己去他媽的 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 23,346	Everyone does.its sooner or later

08-30-2016, 12:43 PM	#97
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	I got a request to do yet another story on him because he isnt paying...come on guys at what point do yall wake up and realize that you aint special...he isnt going to pay you just like he hasnt paid how many others over the years...look at the date of the OP.....if you wanna shoot for ATK....do it COD I know I would. __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

11-22-2016, 12:21 AM	#98
ReggieDurango Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: California Posts: 4,747	might as well bump this ole classic