Fabian Sells Manwin To Management team - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

EddyTheDog · 10-18-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

I don't but I find it pretty funny that Roald, Fabian, and XXXJay all did basically the same thing in just the span a few weeks.

Don't push it...

DWB · 10-18-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You can't blame baddog there.

We in the U.S. are so used to our police state that it seems "normal" and "free" to us.

Man, you GOTTA come over here for a holiday sometime.

the Shemp · 10-18-2013, 02:00 PM

we eagerly await the next Messiah...

thumbuilderic · 10-18-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

good thing you're not coming here to make friends, right?

My thoughts exactly.

DWB · 10-18-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

we eagerly await the next Messiah...

The king is dead, long live the king!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 10-18-2013, 02:27 PM

Seems like only yesterday...

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Managing Partner is a translation from German and means a shareholder that is also actively managing the company. I am not the CEO of any of the companies in my group (I am a Director on all of them). I am the Owner, but that sounds very tacky on a biz card, press release or signature.

And the two main reasons I can not explain it all right now are: 1) Because it would hurt our future plans and 2) I have Non-Disclosure Agreements signed with plenty of people that I can not break.

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Again, as I said above, I am the main shareholder except for a few other small stakeholders of 1 or 2%, basically managers of the group on an incentive plan.

The CEO of Manwin CANADA, our office and service company in Montreal, is Feraz, a few people here will know him. If you do not, come to Miami, I'll introduce you.

Odd that Fabian misspelled Feras' name, when first introducing him...oh well, guess it doesn't matter now since Nathan has now been ousted from what was supposedly his own company.

What are the odds that this sudden resignation/sell announcement could be related to Nathan's tax evasion troubles? (i.e., if the ManLose insiders know that Fabian is going to be sentenced/jailed in the near future, this would be one way to assuage already nervous investors).

ADG

Achmed · 10-18-2013, 02:48 PM

Mike Souths please email me I have breakings news

dillonaire · 10-18-2013, 02:51 PM

Does this mean I can re-submit my resume to be the CEO? Who should i email? I was going to take over temporarily while Fabian was in jail because im a nice guy like that, but negotiations broke down when i couldn?t get my own private jet. Only made sense since I would be doing a lot of traveling.

Far-L · 10-18-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I don't remember anyone doing it on the scale Fabian did - You have to look at Larry and Hugh to see those sort of numbers - Of course I wouldn't put Fabian in the same class - They at least had/have some class....

You have zero clue about either Hustler or Playboy otherwise you would never have posted such a thing. Not saying it is a matter of "Staying classy, San Diego" but a matter of very aggressive strategies that challenged their competition in similar fashion.

EddyTheDog · 10-18-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

You have zero clue about either Hustler or Playboy otherwise you would never have posted such a thing. Not saying it is a matter of "Staying classy, San Diego" but a matter of very aggressive strategies that challenged their competition in similar fashion.

Maybe I am just romanticizing...

georgeyw · 10-18-2013, 03:38 PM

Gotta love the types who talk about themselves in the third person, using their nick's ....

Markonline · 10-18-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

Schengen Treaty

free within the EU

London, in fact any of UK, is is not part of the Schengen Agreement = no automatic unchecked border crossing for Fabian.

That is not to say he could not go to UK, but permissions, agreements etc would be needed from those managing his home arrest and UK passport and border control.

Hard to see why UK would want someone facing criminal charges visiting, although if their office was in North Ireland, the company would be paying UK taxes the sort of hypocrisy governments revel in.

But it's not, that was the whole point of being in a (non UK) low tax area - the office is in Dublin in the South/Republic of Ireland, where there's good tax breaks, but they're outside the Schengen Area also.

EddyTheDog · 10-18-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Markonline

London, in fact any of UK, is is not part of the Schengen Agreement = no automatic unchecked border crossing for Fabian.

That is not to say he could not go to UK, but permissions, agreements etc would be needed from those managing his home arrest and UK passport and border control.

Hard to see why UK would want someone facing criminal charges visiting, although if their office was in North Ireland, the company would be paying UK taxes the sort of hypocrisy governments revel in.

But it's not, that was the whole point of being in a (non UK) low tax area - the office is in Dublin in the South/Republic of Ireland, where there's good tax breaks, but they're outside the Schengen Area also.

I don't see that Dublin would deny him entry if Belgium said OK - He has/had a lot of money invested their after all - Then he could travel to London unencumbered...

baddog · 10-18-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

That's the American in you talking. Europeans are free to travel to many EU countries.

While under house arrest? I did not know the UK was part of the EU; sure could have fooled me with their pounds, pence and all.

EddyTheDog · 10-18-2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

While under house arrest? I did not know the UK was part of the EU; sure could have fooled me with their pounds, pence and all.

We are EU - Try and find someone here that actually knows what that means though and you will be disappointed - It makes US politics look like child's play...

Robbie · 10-18-2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ad-Min

Sorry, but this does not make any sense!
At first you say he was just the "Frontman" but in your very last sentence you say he is guilty for all the stolen content (is asume you mean the tubes)!
Can you explain?

No, if you don't have any skin in the game...I can't explain it to you at all. Thanks for asking.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 10-18-2013, 04:04 PM

Fabian Thylmann stated that he is sure his departure/ouster had been rumored at Manwin offices for months. If that is so, then why didn't he speak out earlier to put the rumors to rest, and re-instill confidence in his leadership (if the rumblings were untrue rumors)?

So what is Fabian's explanation for his sudden decision to abruptly sell out and abandon his ownership of Manwin?

"Both myself and Manwin are at a stage where I can no longer add significant value to the best of my ability."

Sounds legit...

If Manwin was doing as well as Fabian always assured everyone it was, and he truly owned the company, why then would he suddenly sell out to employees that he claims only had a 1-2% ownership (and how could they possibly afford it)?

Like everything related to Mansef/Manwin, there is once again a thick shroud of secrecy/deception.

ADG

baddog · 10-18-2013, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

We are EU - Try and find someone here that actually knows what that means though and you will be disappointed - It makes US politics look like child's play...

And you can travel freely while under house arrest? What does "house arrest" mean over there?

EddyTheDog · 10-18-2013, 04:09 PM

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"Both myself and Manwin are at a stage where I can no longer add significant value to the best of my ability."

Sounds legit...

Legit?..

I read it 3 times and I am not even sure its English.....

John. · 10-18-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

While under house arrest? I did not know the UK was part of the EU; sure could have fooled me with their pounds, pence and all.

From reading the newspaper reports I think he was under house arrest for just a few weeks and then released after paying a massive amount in bail. I think where and when one could travel while on bail would be decided by the court in question.

EddyTheDog · 10-18-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

And you can travel freely while under house arrest? What does "house arrest" mean over there?

AFAIK you can apply to a court to travel and they make a decision if its a risk or not - So Fabian could say to a court I have X number of employees and I need to travel to Ireland to secure their jobs...

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 10-18-2013, 04:41 PM

Yo Fabian, Hef and Larry said to enjoy your hard(ly)-earned retirement, and to drop a note and let them know who the new King of Porn is...

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Nathan
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At least Nathan should have more time to post on GFY again now...

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Shap · 10-18-2013, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Heh-heh...I remember when Shap was selling to Manwin that he was posting on GFY that contrary to what people said, Fabian was in charge of everything.

Man Shap, I hope you got all your money and aren't on a payment plan still. If you are on the payment plan...then hell yes you should be on here cheerleading the "new" owners.

15 year payment plan (only 13 left). Talked to Fabian today he assured me all was good I'll get paid

bean-aid · 10-18-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

15 year payment plan (only 13 left)

I'm sure kidding though

EddyTheDog · 10-18-2013, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

15 year payment plan (only 13 left). Talked to Fabian today he assured me all was good I'll get paid

Your money is in motion then?..

Captain Kawaii · 10-18-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

15 year payment plan (only 13 left). Talked to Fabian today he assured me all was good I'll get paid

You're smarter than that. I hope. Now that Fabes is out will the thieving stop?

EddyTheDog · 10-18-2013, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

You're smarter than that. I hope. Now that Fabes is out will the thieving stop?

He is...

JayAllan · 10-18-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

15 year payment plan (only 13 left). Talked to Fabian today he assured me all was good I'll get paid

You're too funny Shap

I guess I should check in with them and make sure they are still going to pay me for those last 150 B/G scenes I shot for Babes.com! ;)

livexxx · 10-18-2013, 05:45 PM

I could never work out why someone that old would wear a cheap hoodie?

EddyTheDog · 10-18-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by livexxx

I could never work out why someone that old would wear a cheap hoodie?

Its cold - Have you got my web cam on remote or something?..

The Porn Nerd · 10-18-2013, 05:50 PM

Congrats to the Winners....who are who again?
Whatever, send me traffic.

Far-L · 10-18-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Maybe I am just romanticizing...

Sorry, didn't mean to come off so harshly - just saying that both those companies would dance a jig if they could find a similar way in today's market to dominate the adult publishing universe as they once did in the past fighting for magazine distribution.

srockhard · 10-18-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nikki99

TheButcher buying GFY

fuck theButch3r

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 10-18-2013, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

You're smarter than that. I hope. Now that Fabes is out will the thieving stop?

Some of the tube thieves that were behind Mansef when Fabian came aboard as the new owner/face, are still with Manwin today, and may even be behind Fabian's sudden departure. Talk about no honor among thieves.

Remember, Mansef (the Manwin precursor) had to surrender millions in an FBI money laundering investigation, so there is no reason to expect anything better than Mansef-style business as usual (under a different name of course), if the rumors are true about who the new/old "owners" are.

For his part, Fabian at least claimed to be battling piracy with Vobile fingerprinting technology, etc (although he was paying for ads on Pirate Bay, etc., at the same time).

At least with Fabian, Manwin had a public face, albeit a reclusive one (at first by choice, later by house arrest).

With Fabian's departure, Manwin appears to have retreated right back into the shadows from whence it was birthed. Neither AVN or X-Biz (both who appear to be reporting the same account provided earlier by Mike South) seemed to have any comment from the new King of Porn, er...Managing Partner (or whatever) of Manwin/sef.

Mansef holdover Feras Antoon appears to be the one behind the coup...Feras was the one that proclaimed himself supreme commander during Fabian's incarceration in Belgium and Germany. Unsurprising then that Mike South would call him out as the leader of a disloyal faction at Manwin months ago (Nathan maybe should have fired Feras after he got out of the joint, when he still had the chance - maybe he should have trusted or at least paid more attention to Mike South's rumor last August, lol).

I don't know Nathan, but in some way, I kind of feel for the guy, because I'm sure when he was sitting up on that stage in Las Vegas looking down upon the rest of the industry, and telling everyone about his dreams for Manwin, I doubt that he ever imagined that it would come to such an abrupt end so soon, and that the thing he will be most remembered for is getting arrested for tax evasion (and battling with Mike and Robbie).

Fabian should have plenty of money to reinvent himself. Also, his brother Oliver has made quite a name for himself in mainstream, so it shouldn't be hard for Fabian to say so long to porn (after being deposed as King of Porn), and go make his mark in mainstream, unless he really is a pornographer at heart (or he just doesn't know how to do anything else).

Anyway, hopefully the experience will make Fabian a better person. If so, then I wish him well.

BTW, what a hoot seeing some of those on the Manwin payroll trip over one another to genuflect before their new purse holder, without so much as a small nod or thank you to Fabian (at least Shap had the courtesy to say something nice before namedropping Santana).

Have a good weekend everyone!

ADG

BareBacked · 10-18-2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ad-Min

Sorry, but this does not make any sense!
At first you say he was just the "Frontman" but in your very last sentence you say he is guilty for all the stolen content (is asume you mean the tubes)!
Can you explain?

LOL I thought the same thing but was not going to bother.

BareBacked · 10-18-2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BareBacked

LOL I thought the same thing but was not going to bother.

Oh and for some reason heading the biggest adult company ever is not valid since he did not actually film the porn and "make it with his own hands" lol

ilnjscb · 10-18-2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Anyway...good night sweet chubby prince.

Best use of Shakespeare in a tongue in cheek salute upon the departure of a vanquished (though very rich) rival.

I would pay to see Feras Antoon in a cage match with Andrew Conru - those boys make Machiavelli look like My Little Pony

Creatine · 10-18-2013, 07:22 PM

Late Siggy?

mikesouth · 10-18-2013, 07:34 PM

Im working a story that isnt up yet but there are big moves coming at Manwin, including a likely name change, new HQ and divesting it into even more smaller companies

now if you read my site you would know where the money to buy Fabia out came from...Antoon and Tassilo were looking for it for a while and found it in the name of RedTube...thats why that was a merger and not a purchase. Lots in play here and as always Im on it....Im sure there will be the usual smattering of south is full of shit but hey once again...I was dead on the money with this one even though Fabian insisted I was fabricating it all...

I will say this to Fabian...your troubles are FAR from over....bet on it. That 100M up front might buy you out of your tax issues in The Fatherland, but thats just the beginning of the karma train bearing down on your thieving ass....

mikesouth · 10-18-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Achmed

Mike Souths please email me I have breakings news

i tried its bouncing on me email me mikesouth at mikesouth.com

TY

brassmonkey · 10-18-2013, 07:46 PM

he got paid!

philguy · 10-18-2013, 07:53 PM

If this is true, let me get this straight...do you halfwits whining understand this man just walked away with 300, that is THREE HUNDRED million dollars?

None of you content whores can stalk facebook for damaged 18 year olds or find enough tranny hookers in a 1000 years to make that kind of cash.

For 300 mil, I'd sodomize everyone bitching in this thread with a chainshaw and use their innards to make blood sausage for breakfast.

I thought the money I made in the late 90's, early 2000's was impressive. This guy just won and I mean owned all of your asses.

This demonstrates why content providers for the most part will always be suitcase pimps...I say good for him. What he did was legal and he'll pay his tax shit. Welcome to business 101; if it's legal and profitable, you do it.

ladida · 10-18-2013, 07:59 PM

This makes sense. Majority shareholder owns company worth 600m+, sells to management for 300m.

So now when that's not true he either
a) publicly made false announcement, and made contract with the management to lead the company while he still owns it
b) was never the majority shareholder

Jel · 10-18-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

i tried its bouncing on me email me mikesouth at mikesouth.com

TY

post of the thread

EddyTheDog · 10-18-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by philguy

If this is true, let me get this straight...do you halfwits whining understand this man just walked away with 300, that is THREE HUNDRED million dollars?

None of you content whores can stalk facebook for damaged 18 year olds or find enough tranny hookers in a 1000 years to make that kind of cash.

For 300 mil, I'd sodomize everyone bitching in this thread with a chainshaw and use their innards to make blood sausage for breakfast.

I thought the money I made in the late 90's, early 2000's was impressive. This guy just won and I mean owned all of your asses.

This demonstrates why content providers for the most part will always be suitcase pimps...I say good for him. What he did was legal and he'll pay his tax shit. Welcome to business 101; if it's legal and profitable, you do it.

Its 100 million - He will never see the rest - Less the tax outstanding and the MASSIVE tax on that 100 million...

He is made for life of course - $300 million though? - Maybe 5% of that.....

Just my very humble and slightly drunk opinion though

...

marlboroack · 10-18-2013, 09:04 PM

I heard some next level shit went down.

Alex1776 · 10-18-2013, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

i tried its bouncing on me email me mikesouth at mikesouth.com

TY

JEEEEZUS fucking Christ Mike!

baddog · 10-18-2013, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

i tried its bouncing on me email me mikesouth at mikesouth.com

TY

baddog · 10-18-2013, 09:41 PM

$150

Million after taxes

Arnox · 10-18-2013, 09:42 PM

Quality of his email is top notch, lol.

Then again, I guess he'd just say that the quality of my bank account is top notch.

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	Fabian Thylmann stated that he is sure his departure/ouster had been rumored at Manwin offices for months. If that is so, then why didn't he speak out earlier to put the rumors to rest, and re-instill confidence in his leadership (if the rumblings were untrue rumors)? So what is Fabian's explanation for his sudden decision to abruptly sell out and abandon his ownership of Manwin? "Both myself and Manwin are at a stage where I can no longer add significant value to the best of my ability." Sounds legit... If Manwin was doing as well as Fabian always assured everyone it was, and he truly owned the company, why then would he suddenly sell out to employees that he claims only had a 1-2% ownership (and how could they possibly afford it)? Like everything related to Mansef/Manwin, there is once again a thick shroud of secrecy/deception. ADG __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

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philguy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 125	If this is true, let me get this straight...do you halfwits whining understand this man just walked away with 300, that is THREE HUNDRED million dollars? None of you content whores can stalk facebook for damaged 18 year olds or find enough tranny hookers in a 1000 years to make that kind of cash. For 300 mil, I'd sodomize everyone bitching in this thread with a chainshaw and use their innards to make blood sausage for breakfast. I thought the money I made in the late 90's, early 2000's was impressive. This guy just won and I mean owned all of your asses. This demonstrates why content providers for the most part will always be suitcase pimps...I say good for him. What he did was legal and he'll pay his tax shit. Welcome to business 101; if it's legal and profitable, you do it.

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ladida Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,167	This makes sense. Majority shareholder owns company worth 600m+, sells to management for 300m. So now when that's not true he either a) publicly made false announcement, and made contract with the management to lead the company while he still owns it b) was never the majority shareholder __________________ agentGFY at gmail.com

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