Journalists Speak Out About Mainstream Lies and Censorship

[wehateporn]

Seymour Hersh (formerly with the New York Times) ?We lie about everything, lying has become the staple.?

Paul Craig Roberts (served as Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, has been a regular columnist for the Wall Street Journal, Business Week, and other mainstream publications) ?One of the worst things that ever happened (to America) was when President Clinton allowed five companies to concentrate the American media. That destroyed its independence. And ever since Clinton permitted that, which was totally against all American tradition, and totally against the antitrust law ... but in the United States, as we've seen, law doesn't mean anything anymore. The minute these five conglomerates concentrated the media, the independence of the media disappeared. It's no longer run by journalists, it's run by corporate advertising executives. The value of these media conglomerates resides in their federal broadcast licenses. And so they can't dare offend the government. Their licenses may not get renewed, and the entire multi-billion-dollar value of the companies would disappear. So, the so-called mainstream media is no longer the media. It doesn't tell you anything. It's a propaganda ministry - the Ministry of Propaganda. Gerald Celente calls them 'presstitutes.'

Sherwood Ross (award-winning journalist who has worked for the City News Bureau of Chicago, the Chicago Daily News, and for Reuters) ?It's very doubtful that Muslims were behind 9/11. Think about this for one minute: That President Bush's family had done business with the family of the man who allegedly made the terrorist attack, Osama Bin Laden. The Bin Laden family was actually on the board of Bush's oil company. How is it possible that of all the billions of families in the world, the one family that makes the attack on America has done business with the President of America. That sounds more like a favor than anything else. I don't think 9/11 was an Arab conspiracy or a Muslim conspiracy. I think it's an American conspiracy to overthrow the government of the United States and install what is becoming a police state, and also to advance the imperial ambitions of the United States, to swindle the Middle East out of their energy resources.?


Full story http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/10...pose-911-hoax/

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

I wonder if you can comprehend the irony in the fact that the article that you cited about Lies/Censorship was published by the Iranian government-funded Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting service, and the author of the article is a 911 Truther kook who writes for a right-wing extremist website.



ADG

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

I wonder if you can comprehend the irony in the fact that the article that you cited about Lies/Censorship was published by the Iranian government-funded Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting service, and the author of the article is a 911 Truther kook who writes for a right-wing extremist website.



ADG

The OP is quotes from American journalists, so we don't need to bring Iran into this

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

The OP is quotes from American journalists, so we don't need to bring Iran into this

Seymour Hirsch is a well-respected journalist, of which there is one quote right at the beginning of the article, no doubt to try and bring some credibility (transference) to the conspiracy kooks whom are also cited (a common conspiracy writing tactic), and who you somehow think belong in the same category as Seymour Hirsch (ahem, one of the writers that is cited in the article is dead).

Here is a quote from the dead conspiracy writer:

?You don't see any serious questioning by the mainstream media. I thought one of the tip-offs that it was a put-up job was when a cameraman from a little weekly in Pennsylvania went to the site where this airliner had supposedly crashed (on 9/11). And he said, 'I didn't see any airliner. I saw a hole in the ground. I didn't see any bodies. I didn't see any luggage.' All right, maybe that guy just made this up. But I don't think so. I think he was just doing his job.

And then at the Pentagon, you had the claim that airliner hit it. But again, there was no wreckage. Reporters who worked in the Press Room at the Pentagon went out there on the lawn, and they couldn't see any airliner. So, over and over again, you have manufactured lies that the press largely is not reporting.?

No wreckage?!?

Seriously, this is the kind of crap that makes you look incredibly dense.

Flight 93:

http://old.post-gazette.com/headline...rset0911p4.asp

http://old.post-gazette.com/headline...somersetp3.asp

A Flight 93 engine being unearthed:

In examining the wreckage, the only human body part he could see was part of a backbone. Miller later found and identified 1,500 pieces of human remains totaling about 600 pounds (272 kg), or eight percent of the total. The rest of the remains were consumed by the impact.

Pentagon 9/11 Conspiracy:

Snopes and others have thoroughly discredited the Pentagon 9/11 conspiracy theory which you cited as well:

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.asp

You really should have your conspiracy club membership card revoked.



ADG

[arock10]

Versus everyone else in the world speaking out against the conspiracy theory kooks media

[L-Pink]

I believe everything I read and I repeat it.

[Markul]

[dyna mo]

journalists speaking out about lying is just like zuckerberf speakign out about privacy.










riiiiiiiiiiiight...............

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Seriously, this is the kind of crap that makes you look incredibly dense.

Snopes and others have thoroughly discredited the Pentagon 9/11 conspiracy theory which you cited as well:

Denial is not a river in Egypt, learn to use critical thinking rather than putting 100% of your trust in sites like Snopes

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Denial is not a river in Egypt, learn to use critical thinking rather than putting 100% of your trust in sites like Snopes

you're struggling today, we can tell...

[oppoten]

the five families

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Seymour Hirsch is a well-respected journalist, of which there is one quote right at the beginning of the article, no doubt to try and bring some credibility (transference) to the conspiracy kooks whom are also cited (a common conspiracy writing tactic), and who you somehow think belong in the same category as Seymour Hirsch (ahem, one of the writers that is cited in the article is dead).

Here is a quote from the dead conspiracy writer:



No wreckage?!?

Seriously, this is the kind of crap that makes you look incredibly dense.

Flight 93:

http://old.post-gazette.com/headline...rset0911p4.asp

http://old.post-gazette.com/headline...somersetp3.asp

A Flight 93 engine being unearthed:





Pentagon 9/11 Conspiracy:

Snopes and others have thoroughly discredited the Pentagon 9/11 conspiracy theory which you cited as well:

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.asp

You really should have your conspiracy club membership card revoked.



ADG

the site you're dead panning as uncredible, is running a breaking news story:

'BREAKING NEWS: RUSSIA BLAST TV: Six airborne troops killed in military site blast in northwest Russia'

that isn't in our news yet.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

you're struggling today, we can tell...

I am patient Mr Glen, it can take years of chipping away at people's belief systems until they break free, as long as I can see things are moving in the right direction then I'm happy

I have turned many people anti-vaccine, but in most cases it took a minimum of 2 years

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I am patient Mr Glen, it can take years of chipping away at people's belief systems until they break free, as long as I can see things are moving in the right direction then I'm happy

I have turned many people anti-vaccine, but in most cases it took a minimum of 2 years

hey about that anti vaccine thing.. know how the argument is 'we have been vaccinating for polio/measles for decades'?

when did we change that vaccine.. peeps before the.. 60s?.. were getting the scrape vaccine, and now..

[The Porn Nerd]

Full disclosure: I was a journalist for 15 years, working mostly in the entertainment biz (music, tv, movies) but also 'mainstream' investigative journalism (New York Times, New York magazine, GQ, Esquire, etc).

I got the fuck OUT at the end of the '90's because of what is being mentioned in this thread. "Journalism" is a fucking DISGRACE now and it makes me sick. The Supreme Court said it was ok for Fox News to lie (not tell the truth) so now there IS no more "truth" in the news. A disgrace.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Full disclosure: I was a journalist for 15 years, working mostly in the entertainment biz (music, tv, movies) but also 'mainstream' investigative journalism (New York Times, New York magazine, GQ, Esquire, etc).

I got the fuck OUT at the end of the '90's because of what is being mentioned in this thread. "Journalism" is a fucking DISGRACE now and it makes me sick. The Supreme Court said it was ok for Fox News to lie (not tell the truth) so now there IS no more "truth" in the news. A disgrace.

We probably know each other in the real world. I bailed in mid 90's when my editor at a Boston Weekly suggested my opinions could be found in the New York Times.

Journalism today? More fucked than Jenna Jameson.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

We probably know each other in the real world. I bailed in mid 90's when my editor at a Boston Weekly suggested my opinions could be found in the New York Times.

Journalism today? More fucked than Jenna Jameson.

i.. think it's terrible.. but any person i know who has 'made it' as a journalist, is a smoking hot 'unique' looking chick

it's terrible! but yea, hard time feeling happy for em

[theking]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I am patient Mr Glen, it can take years of chipping away at people's belief systems until they break free, as long as I can see things are moving in the right direction then I'm happy

I have turned many people anti-vaccine, but in most cases it took a minimum of 2 years

Pigshit. You are stupid...stupid...stupid.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by theking

Pigshit. You are stupid...stupid...stupid.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-...b_2468343.html

sup

[Vendzilla]

Believe half of what you see
None of what you hear
Vote No, demand a recount
Tip your bartender heavy
and never ever date more than you can lift!
My words to live by

[theking]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-...b_2468343.html

sup

Is there a point that you are attempting to make...if so state your point?

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by theking

Is there a point that you are attempting to make...if so state your point?

i linked an article that has a court rewarding funds on autism that is definitely linked to vaccines.. look, you can tell:

The government did not admit that vaccines caused autism, at least in one of the children. Both cases were "unpublished," meaning information is limited, and access to medical records and other exhibits is blocked. Much of the information presented here comes from documents found at the vaccine court website.

so unless your mindless drivel about pig poop and stupidity... funny projections, by the by, is about nothing at all.. the point is obviously documented evidence about something you're referring to as 'stupid'

[theking]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

i linked an article that has a court rewarding funds on autism that is definitely linked to vaccines.. look, you can tell:



so unless your mindless drivel about pig poop and stupidity... funny projections, by the by, is about nothing at all.. the point is obviously documented evidence about something you're referring to as 'stupid'

I think that everyone with an IQ of 70 or above are aware that vaccines have harmed X number of people and have even killed x number of people.

I also think that everyone with an IQ of 70 or above is aware that vaccines have helped billions and billions of people and have saved x numbers of lives.

I took a flu shot this year...and have for all of the adult years of my life and I know that taking flu shots has killed people and who knows it might kill me some year. On the other hand I can't recall how many years it has been since I have had the flu...off hand I can't recall ever having had the flu.

So stupid...stupid...stupid...for discouraging people not to use vaccines...is applicable...and you are just as stupid but I have told you that more than once.

[media]

argh....

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by theking

I think that everyone with an IQ of 70 or above are aware that vaccines have harmed X number of people and have even killed x number of people.

I also think that everyone with an IQ of 70 or above is aware that vaccines have helped billions and billions of people and have saved x numbers of lives.

I took a flu shot this year...and have for all of the adult years of my life and I know that taking flu shots has killed people and who knows it might kill me some year. On the other hand I can't recall how many years it has been since I have had the flu...off hand I can't recall ever having had the flu.

So stupid...stupid...stupid...for discouraging people not to use vaccines...is applicable...and you are just as stupid but I have told you that more than once.

i think that anyone with an iq over 70 realizes yearly sacrifices to appease the gods have been around for some time.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

We probably know each other in the real world. I bailed in mid 90's when my editor at a Boston Weekly suggested my opinions could be found in the New York Times.

Journalism today? More fucked than Jenna Jameson.

What, this isn't the real world? Damn that must be why everything is such a struggle, no perception of reality....:D

Maybe so, good people up in Boston. Surprising your editor had that viewpoint given it's Boston and all, but then maybe he was a Red Sox fan/Yankee hater. LOL

[theking]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

i think that anyone with an iq over 70 realizes yearly sacrifices to appease the gods have been around for some time.

You are never worth the time...just to stupid...stupid...stupid...you are now dismissed.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

hey about that anti vaccine thing.. know how the argument is 'we have been vaccinating for polio/measles for decades'?

when did we change that vaccine.. peeps before the.. 60s?.. were getting the scrape vaccine, and now..

Everything explained here Richard

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Full disclosure: I was a journalist for 15 years, working mostly in the entertainment biz (music, tv, movies) but also 'mainstream' investigative journalism (New York Times, New York magazine, GQ, Esquire, etc).

I got the fuck OUT at the end of the '90's because of what is being mentioned in this thread. "Journalism" is a fucking DISGRACE now and it makes me sick. The Supreme Court said it was ok for Fox News to lie (not tell the truth) so now there IS no more "truth" in the news. A disgrace.

Amazing to hear this The Porn Nerd, you know more than anyone here

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by theking

You are never worth the time...just to stupid...stupid...stupid...you are now dismissed.

just.. to.. what now?

you mean 'just too stupid'.. right?

cause to say i am stupid, while making a grammar error, would be shock and awe retarded.. right?

some people just don't have the experience.. but an old guy? gotta know that.. right?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Denial is not a river in Egypt, learn to use critical thinking rather than putting 100% of your trust in sites like Snopes

But clearly we should put all of our trust into a gif that shows a perfectly sound structure crashing to the ground no reason. No need to accept facts such as fires, earthquakes, and debris from billions of tons of concrete and steel that most likely moved WTC7 off of it's foundation caused the building to fall.

[arock10]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I am patient Mr Glen, it can take years of chipping away at people's belief systems until they break free, as long as I can see things are moving in the right direction then I'm happy

I have turned many people anti-vaccine, but in most cases it took a minimum of 2 years

Just think of all the children you are killing

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by arock10

Just think of all the children vaccines are killing

Fixed

8char

[kane]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I am patient Mr Glen, it can take years of chipping away at people's belief systems until they break free, as long as I can see things are moving in the right direction then I'm happy

I have turned many people anti-vaccine, but in most cases it took a minimum of 2 years

Church goes anti-vaccine for its members. It leads to a measles outbreak among its members.

Anti-Vaccine movement leads to worst outbreak of whooping cough in 70 years.

While not a great source, this one is kind of fun. It shows some numbers about vaccines.

Measles invade US due to anti-vaccination movement.

Anti-vaccine family changes their stance after their son gets tetanus.

I'm not saying that every vaccine is perfect nor am I saying that there are not some risks, but it I think it is pretty clear that they benefit society as a whole.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Rochard

But clearly we should put all of our trust into a gif that shows a perfectly sound structure crashing to the ground no reason. No need to accept facts such as fires, earthquakes, and debris from billions of tons of concrete and steel that most likely moved WTC7 off of it's foundation caused the building to fall.

It wouldn't fall like that though

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by kane

Church goes anti-vaccine for its members. It leads to a measles outbreak among its members.

Anti-Vaccine movement leads to worst outbreak of whooping cough in 70 years.

While not a great source, this one is kind of fun. It shows some numbers about vaccines.

Measles invade US due to anti-vaccination movement.

Anti-vaccine family changes their stance after their son gets tetanus.

I'm not saying that every vaccine is perfect nor am I saying that there are not some risks, but it I think it is pretty clear that they benefit society as a whole.

That's what the controlled media says, I used to believe this too, however the truth is quite the opposite. Vaccines are how the pharmaceuticals spread autoimmune diseases and allergies to increase profits.

Asthma comes from vaccines, MS, Epilepsy, Motor Neurone Disease, Non Hodgkin Lymphoma, Eczema, Cot Death, Muscle-Wasting Diseases, Narcolepsy, Diabetes Type 1, Juvenile Arthritis, Lupus, Leukemia, Regressive Autism etc etc. This is how the pharmaceuticals increase the size of their market, they want as many people on drugs for life. The pretext for injection is mostly a fairytale which doesn't hold together when analyzed critically

[kane]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

That's what the controlled media says, I used to believe this too, however the truth is quite the opposite. Vaccines are how the pharmaceuticals spread autoimmune diseases and allergies to increase profits.

Asthma comes from vaccines, MS, Epilepsy, Motor Neurone Disease, Non Hodgkin Lymphoma, Eczema, Cot Death, Muscle-Wasting Diseases, Narcolepsy, Diabetes Type 1, Juvenile Arthritis, Lupus, Leukemia, Regressive Autism etc etc. This is how the pharmaceuticals increase the size of their market, they want as many people on drugs for life. The pretext for injection is mostly a fairytale which doesn't hold together when analyzed critically

Would you happen to have any documented reliable proof of these claims?

[arock10]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Fixed

8char

It sure sucks that we have all these massive outbreaks of smallpox these days

[arock10]

Originally Posted by kane

Would you happen to have any documented reliable proof of these claims?

Yea his fridge told him.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by kane

Would you happen to have any documented reliable proof of these claims?

I've found proof of all that I say, I've spent an insane amount of time going through studies

Start with this - Hib vaccine is causing Diabetes Type 1

Why is there a 6-fold gradient increase over the border of Russia/Finland for Diabetes Type 1? Russia has an incredibly low rate of Diabetes Type 1.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15902849

Well, we do know that vaccines cause autoimmune diseases, so could it be a vaccine?

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:...l.pone.0008382

“Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host’s immune ‘system’ by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system’s self-organized criticality.”

Look at these maps here on BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24519949
Check out Hib vaccine rates for Finland and Russia, you'll see that Finland vaccinates 99% of their population against Hib, whereas Russia only vaccinates 18%

Could the Hib vaccine be the culprit?

Bingo, it's already been pointed out that wherever the Hib vaccine is introduced cases of Diabetes Type 1 skyrocket

Association between type 1 diabetes and Hib vaccine (Causal relation is likely)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1116914/

The study goes on to say that there is more harm than good being done by the Hib vaccine

“The rise in diabetes, just one potential adverse effect, exceeds the benefit of the vaccine, which has been estimated to prevent seven deaths and 7-26 cases of severe disability per 100 000 children immunised”

“Furthermore, sharp rises in diabetes have been recorded in the United States and the United Kingdom after the introduction of the haemophilus vaccine.”


The problem is Diabetes Type 1 makes Big Money for Big Pharma, this is of course the most likely reason why the jab is there is the first place, it was never about protecting, just about increasing profits.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by arock10

It sure sucks that we have all these massive outbreaks of smallpox these days

Quarantine stopped Small Pox, yet vaccines attempt to take credit

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Amazing to hear this The Porn Nerd, you know more than anyone here

Hardly. LOL I'm sure I'm only the eigth smartest person in this thread. :D

But I know cockamamie propaganda when I see it/watch it/hear it.

"You are entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts." said someone smarter than I. So ok, let's get rid of those annoying FACTS. LOL

I get my news from the BBC.

[kane]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I've found proof of all that I say, I've spent an insane amount of time going through studies

Start with this - Hib vaccine is causing Diabetes Type 1

Why is there a 6-fold gradient increase over the border of Russia/Finland for Diabetes Type 1? Russia has an incredibly low rate of Diabetes Type 1.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15902849

Well, we do know that vaccines cause autoimmune diseases, so could it be a vaccine?

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:...l.pone.0008382

?Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host?s immune ?system? by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system?s self-organized criticality.?

Look at these maps here on BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24519949
Check out Hib vaccine rates for Finland and Russia, you'll see that Finland vaccinates 99% of their population against Hib, whereas Russia only vaccinates 18%

Could the Hib vaccine be the culprit?

Bingo, it's already been pointed out that wherever the Hib vaccine is introduced cases of Diabetes Type 1 skyrocket

Association between type 1 diabetes and Hib vaccine (Causal relation is likely)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1116914/

The study goes on to say that there is more harm than good being done by the Hib vaccine

?The rise in diabetes, just one potential adverse effect, exceeds the benefit of the vaccine, which has been estimated to prevent seven deaths and 7-26 cases of severe disability per 100 000 children immunised?

?Furthermore, sharp rises in diabetes have been recorded in the United States and the United Kingdom after the introduction of the haemophilus vaccine.?


The problem is Diabetes Type 1 makes Big Money for Big Pharma, this is of course the most likely reason why the jab is there is the first place, it was never about protecting, just about increasing profits.

there may be a relation to people getting the flu vaccine and an increase in diabetes. It is also possible that the world is getting fatter and eating more shitty, sugar filled foods.

Again, I have never said every vaccination is perfect, or possibly needed. I haven't had a flu vaccination in 20 years and have only had the flu a few times during that time.

I am more worried about polio, measles etc.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I get my news from the BBC.

For me the BBC is the centre of Western Propaganda

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by kane

there may be a relation to people getting the flu vaccine and an increase in diabetes. It is also possible that the world is getting fatter and eating more shitty, sugar filled foods.

The world getting fatter causes more Diabetes Type 2, whereas the Hib (Haemophilus influenzae type B) is causing the more serious Diabetes Type 1

Originally Posted by kane

Again, I have never said every vaccination is perfect, or possibly needed. I haven't had a flu vaccination in 20 years and have only had the flu a few times during that time.

You are wise to avoid the Flu vaccine

Originally Posted by kane

I am more worried about polio, measles etc.

The Polio vaccine spreads Polio, but a type that is twice as deadly. The Polio vaccine wasn't working so they simply renamed Polio so as it didn't show up in statistics making it look a success. Let's not forget that the Polio vaccine was contaminated with the SV40 virus which is the reason we now have thousands of cases of Non Hodgkin Lymphoma, a form of Cancer which previously didn't exist. (admitted in an interview with former Merck Vaccine Chief Dr Maurice Hilleman). Measles is no risk if you have enough Vitamin A in your diet. I've had Measles myself it was no big deal. The vaccine is far more risky.


Researchers reported:

"…while India has been polio-free for a year, there has been a huge increase in non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP). In 2011, there were an extra 47,500 new cases of NPAFP. Clinically indistinguishable from polio paralysis but twice as deadly, the incidence of NPAFP was directly proportional to doses of oral polio received. Though this data was collected within the polio surveillance system, it was not investigated. The principle of primum-non-nocere [First, do no harm] was violated."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22591873

Move forward to 17 Minutes 56 Seconds in the video below to get an idea what vaccines are doing to the brain

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

i.. think it's terrible.. but any person i know who has 'made it' as a journalist, is a smoking hot 'unique' looking chick

it's terrible! but yea, hard time feeling happy for em

I met very few smoking hotties. Most were music and film nerds. Some were hot but most not.

What killed journalism were the major corporations who stepped in and began to filter reality versus their agenda. Letterman used to joke about GE but it was more of a problem than even ol Dave would let on.
Corporate concept of do not offend anyone eventually filtered into TV and movies. Especially movies.

These days the control is more open. Hard news is gone and news about ponys and rabbits and the Kardashian skank celebrity TMZ scenes are taken for real news.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

I met very few smoking hotties. Most were music and film nerds. Some were hot but most not.

What killed journalism were the major corporations who stepped in and began to filter reality versus their agenda. Letterman used to joke about GE but it was more of a problem than even ol Dave would let on.
Corporate concept of do not offend anyone eventually filtered into TV and movies. Especially movies.

These days the control is more open. Hard news is gone and news about ponys and rabbits and the Kardashian skank celebrity TMZ scenes are taken for real news.

When I was in my early 20's I wrote for a music magazine. It was a lot of fun and a crazy, cool job. At that time in the two cities I was splitting time between (Portland and Seattle) there were probably 30 major radio stations and like another 30 smaller stations. Most of them were independently owned. It was a huge controversy when one company wanted to own two stations in the same market.

Now almost all of these stations are own by the same 2 or 3 companies. The same can be said for newspapers and magazines. With that comes a corporate mentality and many of them want you to slant the work you do in a particular way. This hurts journalism badly. Another problem is that TV news is now a for profit enterprise. It wasn't too long ago that TV stations produced news understanding that they were going to lose money or maybe break even. They did it as a public service and didn't care about ratings. As the ratings game increased the news stations started competing for viewers. They worried less about breaking interesting stories and more about putting stuff on the air that will draw viewers. Hell, if you look at the major 24 hour news networks half of their programming is not pundits. They have stopped doing the news and now produce a show. They are really not much different than a sitcom or a TV drama.

It is sad. What saddens me more is that most people don't care.

[theking]

Originally Posted by kane

When I was in my early 20's I wrote for a music magazine. It was a lot of fun and a crazy, cool job. At that time in the two cities I was splitting time between (Portland and Seattle) there were probably 30 major radio stations and like another 30 smaller stations. Most of them were independently owned. It was a huge controversy when one company wanted to own two stations in the same market.

Now almost all of these stations are own by the same 2 or 3 companies. The same can be said for newspapers and magazines. With that comes a corporate mentality and many of them want you to slant the work you do in a particular way. This hurts journalism badly. Another problem is that TV news is now a for profit enterprise. It wasn't too long ago that TV stations produced news understanding that they were going to lose money or maybe break even. They did it as a public service and didn't care about ratings. As the ratings game increased the news stations started competing for viewers. They worried less about breaking interesting stories and more about putting stuff on the air that will draw viewers. Hell, if you look at the major 24 hour news networks half of their programming is not pundits. They have stopped doing the news and now produce a show. They are really not much different than a sitcom or a TV drama.

It is sad. What saddens me more is that most people don't care.

You are correct...the "news" shows...are just that entertainment "shows"...with a small bit of news thrown in. In addition there are not any...not a single news media...that is unbiased...and in fact most are heavily biased too the point of being ridiculous. It pisses me off...but one cannot defeat the color "green".

[Si]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

just.. to.. what now?

you mean 'just too stupid'.. right?

cause to say i am stupid, while making a grammar error, would be shock and awe retarded.. right?

some people just don't have the experience.. but an old guy? gotta know that.. right?

Hilariously ironic, just look above.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by kane

When I was in my early 20's I wrote for a music magazine. It was a lot of fun and a crazy, cool job. At that time in the two cities I was splitting time between (Portland and Seattle) there were probably 30 major radio stations and like another 30 smaller stations. Most of them were independently owned. It was a huge controversy when one company wanted to own two stations in the same market.

Now almost all of these stations are own by the same 2 or 3 companies. The same can be said for newspapers and magazines. With that comes a corporate mentality and many of them want you to slant the work you do in a particular way. This hurts journalism badly. Another problem is that TV news is now a for profit enterprise. It wasn't too long ago that TV stations produced news understanding that they were going to lose money or maybe break even. They did it as a public service and didn't care about ratings. As the ratings game increased the news stations started competing for viewers. They worried less about breaking interesting stories and more about putting stuff on the air that will draw viewers. Hell, if you look at the major 24 hour news networks half of their programming is not pundits. They have stopped doing the news and now produce a show. They are really not much different than a sitcom or a TV drama.

It is sad. What saddens me more is that most people don't care.

I lived through that on the east coast in Boston and New York. I'm not a Commie I'm what you might call a socially responsible capitalist. US is a predatory capitalist country based on doctrines created by people thrown out of England and Europe.

What I see as going on for the last 30 years is a government bent on dumbing down the population enough so the citizens, except for a select elite, can get mcjobs but cannot analyze the shit going on around them.

When I watch the 2012 anime "Attack on Titans" I often see average Americans as the titans.
Watch it and chuckle. Same people did Ghost in the Shell. Where the Wachoswski Brothers ripped the Matrix from.

Kane, me and Daniel Elsberg feel your pain.