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Mutt · 10-29-2013, 09:41 PM

Putin recalls 'romantic years' of Soviet youth

(AFP) ? 16 hours ago

Moscow ? The Soviet Union may be long gone but President Vladimir Putin, a former KGB spy, has revealed that he retains fond memories of the Communist Party's youth wing.

Putin spoke on the eve of the 95th anniversary of the establishment of the Komsomol, the youth division of the Communist Party, marked on Tuesday.

"This anniversary is an important date in the history of our state, in the lives of millions of people both in Russia and far outside its borders," Putin said in a statement.

The Russian strongman waxed nostalgic, saying memories of one's Komsomol youth united people from all walks of life, from scientists and public figures to artists and war veterans.

"Because Komsomol is not only politics, it's true friendship and love, student years and the romanticism of new roads, common goals and dreams and the most important -- being part of the fate of your homeland," he said on Monday.

Komsomol, an abbreviation of the All-Union Lenin Communist Union of Youth (known in Russian as the VLKSM), was established in 1918, a year after the Bolshevik Revolution.

Membership in the organisation was considered a stepping stone to top jobs, and several generations wore red Komsomol pins featuring Lenin's profile as a badge of honour.

The Soviet leadership cleverly harnessed the enthusiasm of Komsomol youth to build badly needed infrastructure like the monumental Baikal-Amur railroad.

Putin expressed hope that modern youth groups would find the "time-tested VLKSM traditions" useful in their work.

He once famously said that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the "greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century."

Since coming back to the Kremlin for a third term last year, he sharpened his patriotic rhetoric in a bid to rally support after huge protests against his decade-long rule.

H-Tom · 10-30-2013, 12:39 AM

Ah... the good old communism, I would love to see it in every country where majority of people wants to fight the reach.

Paul&John · 10-30-2013, 12:42 AM

fucking communists.. they fucked up every country in eastern eu including the morality of people

Antonio · 10-30-2013, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by H-Tom

Ah... the good old communism, I would love to see it in every country where majority of people wants to fight the reach.

100 million?????? Really?????

Paul&John · 10-30-2013, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

100 million?????? Really?????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_ki...munist_regimes

Mass killings occurred under some Communist regimes during the twentieth century with an estimated death toll numbering between 85 and 100 million

Antonio · 10-30-2013, 02:12 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

According to a 1993 study of archival Soviet data, a total of 1,053,829 people died in the Gulag from 1934 to 1953.[6] However, taking into account that it was common practice to release prisoners who were either suffering from incurable diseases or on the point of death,[12][13] the actual Gulag death toll was somewhat higher, amounting to 1,258,537 in 1934-53, or 1.6 million deaths during the whole period from 1929 to 1953.[14] Some estimates for total number deaths in the Gulag go beyond 10 million.

So, let's see .... official number is 1,053,829, which is more or less equal to 100 million. In taht case, I have close to $50000000000 in my bank account; zeros, they don't really matter, you can add as many as you want

Paul&John · 10-30-2013, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

According to a 1993 study of archival Soviet data, a total of 1,053,829 people died in the Gulag from 1934 to 1953.[6] However, taking into account that it was common practice to release prisoners who were either suffering from incurable diseases or on the point of death,[12][13] the actual Gulag death toll was somewhat higher, amounting to 1,258,537 in 1934-53, or 1.6 million deaths during the whole period from 1929 to 1953.[14] Some estimates for total number deaths in the Gulag go beyond 10 million.

So, let's see .... official number is 1,053,829, which is more or less equal to 100 million. In taht case, I have close to $50000000000 in my bank account; zeros, they don't really matter, you can add as many as you want

Gulags are one thing only... that ~100 million number includes the WW2, so everything.

from wiki:

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USSR: 20 million deaths; China: 65 million deaths; Vietnam: 1 million deaths; North Korea: 2 million deaths; Cambodia: 2 million deaths; Eastern Europe: 1 million deaths; Latin America: 150,000 deaths; Africa: 1.7 million deaths; Afghanistan: 1.5 million deaths; the international Communist movement and Communist parties not in power: about 10,000 deaths.

I'm not saying those numbers are 100% correct, but it's still a lot.. and we haven't talked about the post-effects of the regime in eastern EU yet!

just a punk · 10-30-2013, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul&John

the WW2, so everything.

I always thought they were killed by Nazi Germans

ZiggiZiggiCrew · 10-30-2013, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by H-Tom

Ah... the good old communism, I would love to see it in every country where majority of people wants to fight the reach.

it is not GULAG, it is nazi konzlager, check below

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Originally Posted by Paul&John

Gulags are one thing only... that ~100 million number includes the WW2, so everything.

from wiki:

I'm not saying those numbers are 100% correct, but it's still a lot.. and we haven't talked about the post-effects of the regime in eastern EU yet!

can not see 6 million deaths jewish, no Holocost in Wiki?

Barry-xlovecam · 10-30-2013, 04:12 AM

It's Putin's proud legacy

In all fairness, life was shit for the workers under the Tzars too.
3 of my grandparents lived it ...

Paul&John · 10-30-2013, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew

can not see 6 million deaths jewish, no Holocost in Wiki?

The thread isn't about Nazis.. Of course they did horrible/fucked up things and killed millions of people, but people usually forgot about the terrors of the Communist regime..

just a punk · 10-30-2013, 06:01 AM

I was born in the USSR and I remember Soviet times very clear. But I don't remember any terror however

wehateporn · 10-30-2013, 06:23 AM

Rothschild funded the Red Army, the Romanov Tsars wouldn't do business with them

Paul&John · 10-30-2013, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I was born in the USSR and I remember Soviet times very clear. But I don't remember any terror however

Maybe you were born in a country which wasn't occupied?

But here in eastern EU there is clear history of communist terror = soviet tanks in peaceful countries occupied by the Soviets:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungari...lution_of_1956
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_...Czechoslovakia
...

and the brainwashing of the population went on till 1989 and we are still suffering from the consequences..

Sid70 · 10-30-2013, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I was born in the USSR and I remember Soviet times very clear. But I don't remember any terror however

Fuck you, terror was everywhere, everyday life was meant to make people suck donkey balls, live miserably and suffer. That was enough, i publicly tell you FUCK YOU, idiot.

oppoten · 10-30-2013, 06:55 AM

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

I'm British and probably ignorant, but it looks to me like Russia's had the same style of government since Ivan the Terrible.

just a punk · 10-30-2013, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul&John

Maybe you were born in a country which wasn't occupied?

Of course. I was born in Soviet Russia

just a punk · 10-30-2013, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Fuck you, terror was everywhere, everyday life was meant to make people suck donkey balls, live miserably and suffer. That was enough, i publicly tell you FUCK YOU, idiot.

LOL at you, clown

P.S. Ты еще и нищеброд-неудачник, на сколько я знаю. Такие ничтожества всегда винят всех, кроме себя. Поплачь, может полегчает

just a punk · 10-30-2013, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by oppoten

I'm British and probably ignorant, but it looks to me like Russia's had the same style of government since Ivan the Terrible.

Ignorance is bliss

Choopa_Pardo · 10-30-2013, 07:04 AM

Paul&John · 10-30-2013, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Of course. I was born in Soviet Russia

Of course then there was no terror for you, your people were terrorizing our

just a punk · 10-30-2013, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul&John

Of course then there was no terror for you, your people were terrorizing our

Where are you from, the terrorized one?

mineistaken · 10-30-2013, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Where are you from, the terrorized one?

Russia terrorized its occupied countries. So if you were russian of course you were not terrorized.
So I can just say fuck you for trying to insinuate something.

Antonio · 10-30-2013, 07:32 AM

Bah, communism sucked donkey’s balls, but if you think that it was all bad, then you don't have a clue. I for one am willing to give up some of the so called freedoms just to see crime back to the way it was during the communism.

40+ years of communism with one armed bank robbery as in ONE and this is how it went down - guy robs a bank, a month later guy gets caught, another month later guy gets executed. Guess what? Nobody wants to rob banks anymore.

mineistaken · 10-30-2013, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul&John

Gulags are one thing only... that ~100 million number includes the WW2, so everything.

I think his point was that the picture was completely wrong as it said that gulag was responsible for 100 million. On top of that that picture is from nazi camp. So somebody very stupid made that picture

just a punk · 10-30-2013, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Russia terrorized its occupied countries. So if you were russian of course you were not terrorized.

And how exactly you were terrorized by Russia?

globofun · 10-30-2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew

What the fuck is that?

This guy is getting ready for some public announcement or something?

alex.missyouth · 10-30-2013, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by globofun

What the fuck is that?

This guy is getting ready for some public announcement or something?

Gotta be from WWII. Disturbing to say the least.

Paul&John · 10-30-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Where are you from, the terrorized one?

You know denying the crimes of Communists is the same as denying the holocaust. There is nothing funny about it..

Sid70 · 10-30-2013, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberseo

lol at you, clown

p.s. Ты еще и нищеброд-неудачник, на сколько я знаю. Такие ничтожества всегда винят всех, кроме себя. Поплачь, может полегчает

"насколько" вместе пишут, грамотей.
Придумал себе историю - наслаждайся.
Клоун у нас тут один - это ты еблан.

Sid70 · 10-30-2013, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

LOL at you, clown

It's not funny at all.

You seem to be proud to be born in the Soviet Russia... means you support Putin and shit... I wont sit taking shit near you.

Manfap · 10-30-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

It's Putin's proud legacy

In all fairness, life was shit for the workers under the Tzars too.
3 of my grandparents lived it ...

How old are you?

MaDalton · 10-30-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul&John

Maybe you were born in a country which wasn't occupied?

But here in eastern EU there is clear history of communist terror = soviet tanks in peaceful countries occupied by the Soviets:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungari...lution_of_1956
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_...Czechoslovakia
...

and the brainwashing of the population went on till 1989 and we are still suffering from the consequences..

may i add http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uprisin...n_East_Germany

hardly anyone denies that Stalins Russia was a terror regime - including killing hundreds of thousands of people

after Stalin it got better but until 1989 i wouldn't call Russia and the whole eastern bloc free, democratic or liberal

Sid70 · 10-30-2013, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

may i add http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uprisin...n_East_Germany

hardly anyone denies that Stalins Russia was a terror regime - including killing hundreds of thousands of people

after Stalin it got better but until 1989 i wouldn't call Russia and the whole eastern bloc free, democratic or liberal

Wrong, CyberSeo loves it!

just a punk · 10-30-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

means you support Putin and shit...

WHAAAAAAT??? Putin is pro-Soviet??? Woohaha!

He is the one of the most richest and corrupted capitalists in the World. You're not just a clown, you are an idiot

just a punk · 10-30-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

hardly anyone denies that Stalins Russia was a terror regime - including killing hundreds of thousands of people

True that but it can't be even compared with the modern NATO terror (Yugoslavia, Iraq and Afghanistan)

You know denying the crimes of NATO is the same as denying the Holocaust.

Sid70 · 10-30-2013, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

WHAAAAAAT??? Putin is pro-Soviet??? Woohaha!

He is the one of the most richest and corrupted capitalists in the World. You're not just a clown, you are an idiot

You IS pro-soviet if you support Putin. Putin is a thief, not capitalist.

just a punk · 10-30-2013, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

but until 1989 i wouldn't call Russia and the whole eastern bloc free, democratic or liberal

We way have different opinions about the exact date (1989 for you or 1991 for me), be you are right there was not freedom, democracy and liberalism. Neither than and neither now - in any country of the World. These words are just... words. Show me at least one country which you can call free, liberal and democratic one. The only "country" what comes on my mind is Somalia

oppoten · 10-30-2013, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Ignorance is bliss

What I'm saying is that you've always had centralized autocracy. And the "workers" under communism were bonded to the state in the same way that the serfs were bonded to the land.

And yes, maybe I'm ignorant, but I'm learning about your country because it fascinates me. I will make a prediction...that communism, and perhaps even the Soviet Union in some form, will be back one day. Putin's probably looking at China and thinking "damn, they made it work".

dyna mo · 10-30-2013, 10:20 AM

Mutt, well played.

MaDalton · 10-30-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

We way have different opinions about the exact date (1989 for you or 1991 for me), be you are right there was not freedom, democracy and liberalism. Neither than and neither now - in any country of the World. These words are just... words. Show me at least one country which you can call free, liberal and democratic one. The only "country" what comes on my mind is Somalia

it's all a matter of definition but i rather live in CZ now than in 1980

just a punk · 10-30-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

You IS pro-soviet if you support Putin. Putin is a thief, not capitalist.

Today is the day of great discovers. I've found out that I support Putin. What's next? I'll try to guess. You'll tell everybody that I support Hitler. Am I right?

Go on broke man, go on

P.S. И не забудь похмелиться наутро. Я вижу ты опять изрядно нажрался сегодня.

just a punk · 10-30-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by oppoten

Soviet Union in some form, will be back one day

Will? Oh, noes! It's back already. Will see how long it will least

just a punk · 10-30-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

it's all a matter of definition but i rather live in CZ now than in 1980

It's not about CZ only. I bet you will say it about ANY country. Russia of 1980 sucks, compared to modern Russia. Germany of 1980 sucks, compared to modern Germany and so on, and so on...

Sid70 · 10-30-2013, 10:37 AM

No matter what you support or not.
Шел хохол - насрал на пол, шел кацап - зубами цап.

just a punk · 10-30-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Thanks, fits you fine.

You're drunk man. Get some sleep.

MaDalton · 10-30-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

It's not about CZ only. I bet you will say it about ANY country. Russia of 1980 sucks, compared to modern Russia. Germany of 1980 sucks, compared to modern Germany and so on, and so on...

i was pretty happy in western Germany in 1980...

Sid70 · 10-30-2013, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Will? Oh, noes! It's back already. Will see how long it will least

so happy finding a 'Union' word in wikipedia?
Pretty common for a coder to be fairly good at manipulating data while totally ignoring the whole picture.

Sid70 · 10-30-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i was pretty happy in western Germany in 1980...

while I sucked donkey balls in Soviet Ukraine, mate, I need a hug

)))

just a punk · 10-30-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i was pretty happy in western Germany in 1980...

Happier than in modern Germany? I can't believe, really. Everything is changing, and the life gets more comfortable since the time passes. All these small things we have now (mobiles, internet etc) change our life much more dramatic than political regimes. I would prefer to live somewhere in the modern "communistic" Chinese city (e.g. Honkong, Shanghai or even Beijing) now rather than in "free and democratic" Berlin or Hamburg of 1980's

10-29-2013, 09:41 PM	#1
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Once a Commie Always a Commie Putin recalls 'romantic years' of Soviet youth (AFP) ? 16 hours ago Moscow ? The Soviet Union may be long gone but President Vladimir Putin, a former KGB spy, has revealed that he retains fond memories of the Communist Party's youth wing. Putin spoke on the eve of the 95th anniversary of the establishment of the Komsomol, the youth division of the Communist Party, marked on Tuesday. "This anniversary is an important date in the history of our state, in the lives of millions of people both in Russia and far outside its borders," Putin said in a statement. The Russian strongman waxed nostalgic, saying memories of one's Komsomol youth united people from all walks of life, from scientists and public figures to artists and war veterans. "Because Komsomol is not only politics, it's true friendship and love, student years and the romanticism of new roads, common goals and dreams and the most important -- being part of the fate of your homeland," he said on Monday. Komsomol, an abbreviation of the All-Union Lenin Communist Union of Youth (known in Russian as the VLKSM), was established in 1918, a year after the Bolshevik Revolution. Membership in the organisation was considered a stepping stone to top jobs, and several generations wore red Komsomol pins featuring Lenin's profile as a badge of honour. The Soviet leadership cleverly harnessed the enthusiasm of Komsomol youth to build badly needed infrastructure like the monumental Baikal-Amur railroad. Putin expressed hope that modern youth groups would find the "time-tested VLKSM traditions" useful in their work. He once famously said that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the "greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century." Since coming back to the Kremlin for a third term last year, he sharpened his patriotic rhetoric in a bid to rally support after huge protests against his decade-long rule. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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Antonio Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spartaaaaaaaaa Posts: 14,136	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag According to a 1993 study of archival Soviet data, a total of 1,053,829 people died in the Gulag from 1934 to 1953.[6] However, taking into account that it was common practice to release prisoners who were either suffering from incurable diseases or on the point of death,[12][13] the actual Gulag death toll was somewhat higher, amounting to 1,258,537 in 1934-53, or 1.6 million deaths during the whole period from 1929 to 1953.[14] Some estimates for total number deaths in the Gulag go beyond 10 million. So, let's see .... official number is 1,053,829, which is more or less equal to 100 million. In taht case, I have close to $50000000000 in my bank account; zeros, they don't really matter, you can add as many as you want

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