Atomic bomb dropped on DC

[Joshua G]

OMG. Dems changed senate rules so they could actually get something done.

The horror!!!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...day/?hpt=hp_t1

[Rochard]

Congress has failed us. They work for the people, not their parties. There shouldn't be any discussion about bipartisanship; All of Congress should be bipartisan.

The Republicans are pissed. They allowed a massive recession to take place on their watch, and a fucking Democrat came and fixed it. Instead of working with the White House to make improvements, the are doing nothing but blocking everything.

This is reflected in their approval rating, which is the worst it's ever been in my lifetime.

I'm not a fan of Hillary, but if she runs everyone will get their panties in a bunch and the Democratic party will look like "new and progressive, forward thinking" and the GOP will become further entrenched in the "old white men" reputation.

The Republican party has become a joke. I thought putting Bidden in as VP was a joke, but that was nothing compared to Palin.

[BFT3K]

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Congress has failed us. They work for the people, not their parties. There shouldn't be any discussion about bipartisanship; All of Congress should be bipartisan.

The Republicans are pissed. They allowed a massive recession to take place on their watch, and a fucking Democrat came and fixed it. Instead of working with the White House to make improvements, the are doing nothing but blocking everything.

This is reflected in their approval rating, which is the worst it's ever been in my lifetime.

I'm not a fan of Hillary, but if she runs everyone will get their panties in a bunch and the Democratic party will look like "new and progressive, forward thinking" and the GOP will become further entrenched in the "old white men" reputation.

The Republican party has become a joke. I thought putting Bidden in as VP was a joke, but that was nothing compared to Palin.

QFT

[2MuchMark]

This just in:

[Joshua G]

to me. just as bad as the repub addiction to negativism is the news media. Hyping this rule change like the constitution was trashed or something. The filibuster is not in the constitution. its just a rule, & it got abused by hyperpartisanship.

Rather than calling it a nuclear option, they should call it unclogging the toilet.

[C H R I S]

This didnt pass yet, has it? I hope it does.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh

to me. just as bad as the repub addiction to negativism is the news media. Hyping this rule change like the constitution was trashed or something. The filibuster is not in the constitution. its just a rule, & it got abused by hyperpartisanship.

Rather than calling it a nuclear option, they should call it unclogging the toilet.

Yup

[C H R I S]

Dont the republicans call everything the "Nuclear Option", govt shutdown, debt ceiling, etc. They are useless tards getting rich and doing nothing. Not that dems are much better but at least they have some agenda, all the right wing wants to do is stop the blackman from doing anything.

[Robbie]

It's called the "Nuclear Option" because they all actually oppose doing it.

Pres. Obama opposed it when he was a Senator and the Dems were in the minority. Harry Reid opposed it.

Now the Republicans oppose it (the same ones who were FOR it a few years ago when they were in the majority).

Total and complete hypocrisy on both "sides".

But you guys just go ahead and keep voting Republican and Democrat. I'm sure that one day they will "change" and start doing the right thing by the American people. LOL!

[crockett]

OP got my hopes up.. I was hoping there was a real nuclear bomb dropped on DC..

[Vendzilla]

LOL, Obama supports anything that generates news that's not about Obamacare, Fast and Furious, NSA spying, IRS targeting and Bengazi.

[=^..^=]

Originally Posted by crockett

OP got my hopes up.. I was hoping there was a real nuclear bomb dropped on DC..

I knew it couldnt have been that because there were no hoardes of citizens partying in the streets

[Axeman]

I don't like this at all for the simple reason that the courts will become even more activist in nature. Both to the Left and the Right depending who has control. The filibuster at the very least made the appointees more to the center of each side.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Robbie

But you guys just go ahead and keep voting Republican and Democrat. I'm sure that one day they will "change" and start doing the right thing by the American people. LOL!

in my opinion, our politics will shift dramatically when the boomers retire & genX/Y take over the government. i believe the boomers are the key to all this morass. The hippies & the wall street types been fighting their culture wars going all the way back to the sixties.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Axeman

I don't like this at all for the simple reason that the courts will become even more activist in nature. Both to the Left and the Right depending who has control. The filibuster at the very least made the appointees more to the center of each side.

They have held non political positions like the guy to head Government Printing Office , they held up the republican sec of defense. This is just to say no to everything. They have held up 82 on him compared to 86 on all the other presidents in history.

[seeandsee]

can somebody translate to me about what they vote?

[JockoHomo]

What a let down this thread is...I actually was hoping when I saw the headline that an actual atomic bomb had indeed been dropped on the shithole!

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by tony286

They have held non political positions like the guy to head Government Printing Office , they held up the republican sec of defense. This is just to say no to everything. They have held up 82 on him compared to 86 on all the other presidents in history.

I don't a fuck about those nonsense positions. I care about the courts getting more activist.

[Axeman]

I really hope the Repubs change it back if they get control of the Senate in 14. They of course won't, as all politicians are complete hypocrites.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Axeman

I don't a fuck about those nonsense positions. I care about the courts getting more activist.

IF you work in porn you want dem judges on the bench not righties. lol

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

LOL, Obama supports anything that generates news that's not about Obamacare, Fast and Furious, NSA spying, IRS targeting and Bengazi.

Haha give me a break. Obamacare is having a bad time sure, but F&F, IRS "Targeting" and Bengazi are all non-stories, started by asshole republicans in an attempt to create fake Drama. And don't forget that the NSA spying is thanks to Bush, not Obama.

And besides, this is big news. And its not "obama supporting it because it generates news", it's the news agencies jumping on board because it IS big news. And besides, once again it is the fucking republicans fault : http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...uclear-option/

It will be a great day when crybaby do-nothing Boehner gets his gavel shoved up his ass as he is kicked out of the house.

[MaDalton]

this filibuster thing is the greatest joke in politics anyways

[MaDalton]

only beaten by Fidel Castro and his speeches that went on for hours

but given a choice i dont know what i would prefer

[Axeman]

Originally Posted by tony286

IF you work in porn you want dem judges on the bench not righties. lol

I want centrists. I don't want Liberals or Social conservatives.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh

in my opinion, our politics will shift dramatically when the boomers retire & genX/Y take over the government. i believe the boomers are the key to all this morass. The hippies & the wall street types been fighting their culture wars going all the way back to the sixties.

We just need some crotchety old white men to die. It'll be about 20 years until our society has been cleansed of these progress hating cavemen who want eveything to stay status quo. Their time is almost over. Hopefully the next generation of old white men won't be the same way.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by **********

Haha give me a break. Obamacare is having a bad time sure, but F&F, IRS "Targeting" and Bengazi are all non-stories, started by asshole republicans in an attempt to create fake Drama. And don't forget that the NSA spying is thanks to Bush, not Obama.

And besides, this is big news. And its not "obama supporting it because it generates news", it's the news agencies jumping on board because it IS big news. And besides, once again it is the fucking republicans fault : http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...uclear-option/

It will be a great day when crybaby do-nothing Boehner gets his gavel shoved up his ass as he is kicked out of the house.

Here's what you guys are not getting thru your head. The sides shift back and forth, when the democrats lose power, they will want to get this back and whine about it. Obama's approval rating is the same as Bush's at this time in his presidency. Means unless a couple touch downs happen for Obama, the democratic party is going to lose a lot of seats next year.
With over a million people unemployed and not collecting unemployment in California alone, things are going to have to change.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Here's what you guys are not getting thru your head. The sides shift back and forth, when the democrats lose power, they will want to get this back and whine about it. Obama's approval rating is the same as Bush's at this time in his presidency. Means unless a couple touch downs happen for Obama, the democratic party is going to lose a lot of seats next year.
With over a million people unemployed and not collecting unemployment in California alone, things are going to have to change.

Vendy my friend, the Dems won't have to do a thing. The republicans have caused so much shit they will never win again no matter what they do to try to steal the election. Even people with blinders on are starting to see the truth.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by **********

Vendy my friend, the Dems won't have to do a thing. The republicans have caused so much shit they will never win again no matter what they do to try to steal the election. Even people with blinders on are starting to see the truth.

The exact same thing was said during Clintons administration...

And he was a far better president than the one in office today.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

this filibuster thing is the greatest joke in politics anyways

the biggest joke is elections. a grand fraud that fools the public into thinking they have some power in the political process.

The only people willing to endure campaigns are not actual leaders. they are camera friendly narcissists who lie effortlessly.

its no wonder the private sector is prospering & the public sector is going bankrupt.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Axeman

I really hope the Repubs change it back if they get control of the Senate in 14. They of course won't, as all politicians are complete hypocrites.

Of course they won't. If the republicans regain control of the senate and hold the house the democrats are likely going to return the favor and filibuster anything and everything that the republicans want to do.

The only way for this to end is for the leaders to actually lead and stop the crap, but right now it is the leaders that are creating these issues not solving them.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

LOL, Obama supports anything that generates news that's not about Obamacare, Fast and Furious, NSA spying, IRS targeting and Bengazi.

Like a broken record already.

Well, Obamacare is a law. Fast and Furious wasn't started by Obama. The NSA spying isn't really spying on Americans. The IRS was doing it's freaking job. And I still don't understand what you are bitching about with Bengazi - it was a terrorist attack.

You keep trying to make mountains out of molehills while ignoring what your party is doing - investing all of it's time crying like little children. The Republican party needs to stop looking back at it's past mistakes and figure out a direction forward or it's going to loose the White House again. And this time to a woman.

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh

in my opinion, our politics will shift dramatically when the boomers retire & genX/Y take over the government. i believe the boomers are the key to all this morass. The hippies & the wall street types been fighting their culture wars going all the way back to the sixties.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/?ref_=nv_sr_4

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by **********

Vendy my friend, the Dems won't have to do a thing. The republicans have caused so much shit they will never win again no matter what they do to try to steal the election. Even people with blinders on are starting to see the truth.

When young people that didn't need insurance and have limited funds are forced to pay for old peoples insurance, things will get worse for Obama. This is why Obama is trying so hard to change the subject and start working on immigration reform.
Delaying anything will screw up the roll out, the dems need that for the mid terms, if not, things are going to change in the landscape.

Look at it this way, Barry promised that the stimulus was to improve the unemployment numbers, they haven't. 21 million people are still unemployed, that's 14.6% of the US workforce. Only half of those people are getting unemployment.

Barry made his whole presidency about healthcare, he made healthcare completely a democrat law. I think this has done more to separate the parties than anything.


People want universal healthcare, how many people think Obamacare is Universal Healthcare? It fails because it doesn't cover everyone, makes those that don't need it to pay for those that do need it. Talk to any doctor in the US and you will find no one is looking forward to it with the exception of those going on medicaid and the insurance companies.

[Tom_PM]

Lets get this mans picture on the -$100 bill.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Tom_PM

Lets get this mans picture on the -$100 bill.

He's a human piece of garbage. Just look at that pathetic buttfucker.

[Robbie]

Pure hypocrisy.

First here is Senator Obama DEFENDING the filibuster and AGAINST the nuclear option while the Republicans were the majority party:


And here is Senator Harry Reid when the Republicans were in power DEFENDING the filibuster and AGAINST the nuclear option:

[EpicPanda]

Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh

to me. just as bad as the repub addiction to negativism is the news media. Hyping this rule change like the constitution was trashed or something. The filibuster is not in the constitution. its just a rule, & it got abused by hyperpartisanship.

Rather than calling it a nuclear option, they should call it unclogging the toilet.

agree agree

[EpicPanda]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Pure hypocrisy.

First here is Senator Obama DEFENDING the filibuster and AGAINST the nuclear option while the Republicans were the majority party:

And here is Senator Harry Reid when the Republicans were in power DEFENDING the filibuster and AGAINST the nuclear option:

The democrats respected the results of elections, and let Bush bore out the government agencies he didn't like by appointing lobbyists from the industries they regulated.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by PhadPanda

The democrats respected the results of elections, and let Bush bore out the government agencies he didn't like by appointing lobbyists from the industries they regulated.

Whatever. If you watch those videos I just put up...The Republicans were in the majority and tired of the Democrats "blocking" everything they wanted.

It's a fact that whichever party is in power usually wants the "nuclear option" and the minority does not.

As for Dems "respecting the elections"? Bullshit. They fought tooth and nail with Bush.
Difference is, Bush was good at working with them and getting them to negotiate.

Obama hasn't shown that ability. He has been "my way or the highway" and it has resulted in a nightmare.

Remember? When Bush became president in 2000, the Democrats were outright proclaiming that he "stole" the election from Gore. LOTS of bad feelings.
But Bush reached out. For better or worse (I believe worse), Bush used his LEADERSHIP skills to get the Dems to bend.

Clinton did the same thing with the Republicans.

Reagan did the same thing with the Democrats.

And most Presidents in history were leaders and worked with the opposition.

Obama has not.
And the excuse by the Obama-Maniacs is that all the Republicans from top to bottom are....RACISTS. And so is anybody that questions Obama in any way, shape, or form.

I believe that the Democrats are going to regret this.

Because sooner or later, the Republicans will one day be the majority party again. And when that happens...and the Dems are the minority party, they will learn what it's like to have ZERO say in governing.

With no filibuster, it means that the minority party loses it's power. But don't take my word on it...listen to Obama and Reid's OWN words when they were the minority party.

They are hypocrites.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Minte

The exact same thing was said during Clintons administration...

And he was a far better president than the one in office today.

I agree. Clinton rocked it. I like Obama and want him to succeed but he just lets the republicans walk all over him. The so-called "Nuclear option" has been there the whole time. Why they waited so long is something I just don't understand.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by **********

The so-called "Nuclear option" has been there the whole time. Why they waited so long is something I just don't understand.

Watch the vids I posted above and Harry Reid and Obama will explain to you WHY they were AGAINST the nuclear option and why the filibuster has always been an important part of govt. since the beginning. They explain it in great detail.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

When young people that didn't need insurance and have limited funds are forced to pay for old peoples insurance, things will get worse for Obama. This is why Obama is trying so hard to change the subject and start working on immigration reform.

Omg come on man...

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Delaying anything will screw up the roll out, the dems need that for the mid terms, if not, things are going to change in the landscape.

Dude, it has already been rolled out. It is a done deal. It is the law. Thats it!

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Look at it this way, Barry promised that the stimulus was to improve the unemployment numbers, they haven't. 21 million people are still unemployed, that's 14.6% of the US workforce. Only half of those people are getting unemployment.

You're wrong. Unemployment is going down and has been going down since Obama took office. In Jan '12 it was 8.7%. In October it was down to 7.2%.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/unit...mployment-rate

in November it was up to 7.3%, thanks to Fuck-head Boehner and the government shutdown.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Barry made his whole presidency about healthcare, he made healthcare completely a democrat law. I think this has done more to separate the parties than anything.

(Who is Barry?)

And no, Republicans created the separation. Mitch McConnell, Senator from Kentucky and Turtle-face prick, set out to ruin Obama, try to make him a 1-term president. He and his fellow racists have blocked everything Obama has tried to do and refused to work with him on everything.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

People want universal healthcare, how many people think Obamacare is Universal Healthcare? It fails because it doesn't cover everyone, makes those that don't need it to pay for those that do need it. Talk to any doctor in the US and you will find no one is looking forward to it with the exception of those going on medicaid and the insurance companies.

Someone needs a hug.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by **********

Omg come on man...



Dude, it has already been rolled out. It is a done deal. It is the law. Thats it!



You're wrong. Unemployment is going down and has been going down since Obama took office. In Jan '12 it was 8.7%. In October it was down to 7.2%.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/unit...mployment-rate

in November it was up to 7.3%, thanks to Fuck-head Boehner and the government shutdown.




(Who is Barry?)

And no, Republicans created the separation. Mitch McConnell, Senator from Kentucky and Turtle-face prick, set out to ruin Obama, try to make him a 1-term president. He and his fellow racists have blocked everything Obama has tried to do and refused to work with him on everything.



Someone needs a hug.

And if Obama did universal healthcare Vend would be calling him a communist. lol

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Whatever. If you watch those videos I just put up...The Republicans were in the majority and tired of the Democrats "blocking" everything they wanted.

It's a fact that whichever party is in power usually wants the "nuclear option" and the minority does not.

As for Dems "respecting the elections"? Bullshit. They fought tooth and nail with Bush.
Difference is, Bush was good at working with them and getting them to negotiate.

Obama hasn't shown that ability. He has been "my way or the highway" and it has resulted in a nightmare.

Remember? When Bush became president in 2000, the Democrats were outright proclaiming that he "stole" the election from Gore. LOTS of bad feelings.
But Bush reached out. For better or worse (I believe worse), Bush used his LEADERSHIP skills to get the Dems to bend.

Clinton did the same thing with the Republicans.

Reagan did the same thing with the Democrats.

And most Presidents in history were leaders and worked with the opposition.

Obama has not.
And the excuse by the Obama-Maniacs is that all the Republicans from top to bottom are....RACISTS. And so is anybody that questions Obama in any way, shape, or form.

I believe that the Democrats are going to regret this.

Because sooner or later, the Republicans will one day be the majority party again. And when that happens...and the Dems are the minority party, they will learn what it's like to have ZERO say in governing.

With no filibuster, it means that the minority party loses it's power. But don't take my word on it...listen to Obama and Reid's OWN words when they were the minority party.

They are hypocrites.

The only way the Republican party will be the majority again is if the entire country turns into redneck racists or old rich white men. The demographics are definitely going in the opposite direction.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Watch the vids I posted above and Harry Reid and Obama will explain to you WHY they were AGAINST the nuclear option and why the filibuster has always been an important part of govt. since the beginning. They explain it in great detail.

I know facts dont matter but its the gops fault this happened. They held up the nominee to head the fucking white house printing office. lol When their leader in the senate says my job is make Obama a one term president. They have held up more on Obama then any president in the history of the US.
Now of course cry, its obama's fault.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Whatever. If you watch those videos I just put up...The Republicans were in the majority and tired of the Democrats "blocking" everything they wanted.

It's a fact that whichever party is in power usually wants the "nuclear option" and the minority does not.

As for Dems "respecting the elections"? Bullshit. They fought tooth and nail with Bush.
Difference is, Bush was good at working with them and getting them to negotiate.

Obama hasn't shown that ability. He has been "my way or the highway" and it has resulted in a nightmare.

Remember? When Bush became president in 2000, the Democrats were outright proclaiming that he "stole" the election from Gore. LOTS of bad feelings.
But Bush reached out. For better or worse (I believe worse), Bush used his LEADERSHIP skills to get the Dems to bend.

Clinton did the same thing with the Republicans.

Reagan did the same thing with the Democrats.

And most Presidents in history were leaders and worked with the opposition.

Obama has not.
And the excuse by the Obama-Maniacs is that all the Republicans from top to bottom are....RACISTS. And so is anybody that questions Obama in any way, shape, or form.

I believe that the Democrats are going to regret this.

Because sooner or later, the Republicans will one day be the majority party again. And when that happens...and the Dems are the minority party, they will learn what it's like to have ZERO say in governing.

With no filibuster, it means that the minority party loses it's power. But don't take my word on it...listen to Obama and Reid's OWN words when they were the minority party.

They are hypocrites.

No, when republicans get elected based on this president being a kenyan communist marxist nazi tearing apart this country. They paint themselves in a corner. Can’t work with him if you want to get elected again. Fuck, they were made a big stink at the gov of nj for working with Obama to help his state. It has never ever been like this before and you know that.
Its obama's fault he wont work with us, funny this hyperleft president has had a few republicans in his cabinet. Your friends in the senate held up the nom of chuck hagel for sec of defense he is a republican. The republicans are for something, Obama says thats a good idea then they are against it.
24 Policies That Republicans Supported BEFORE They Were Against Them
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/06...ans-supported/

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

People want universal healthcare, how many people think Obamacare is Universal Healthcare? It fails because it doesn't cover everyone, makes those that don't need it to pay for those that do need it. Talk to any doctor in the US and you will find no one is looking forward to it with the exception of those going on medicaid and the insurance companies.

huh? you do know that all republican proposals for health reform leave 10s of millions uninsured. how do you of all people attack obamacare for not covering people?



PS - making those that dont need it pay for those that do? Thats the business model of the health insurance company - the healthy customers pay for the sick ones within the insurance pool. Thing is...the insurance company maximizes profit by minimizing expenses, AKA cancelling the coverage of the sickest people.

This basic economic fact is why i personally support a single payer system. I far prefer a hilary crony over gordon gekko making decisions on my health care financing.

i am unhappy with obamacare simply because it keeps gordon gekko insurance companies in business, & worse, still able to price gouge but now "taxpayer subsidies" cover that cost. absurd.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by tony286

I know facts dont matter but its the gops fault this happened. They held up the nominee to head the fucking white house printing office. lol When their leader in the senate says my job is make Obama a one term president. They have held up more on Obama then any president in the history of the US.
Now of course cry, its obama's fault.

Now I heard that the census bureau messed with(lowered) the unemployment numbers last year the month before the election. If the public would've known then what they know now
Obama would've and should have been a one term president.

This guy fits the description of a politician perfectly..How do you know when a politician is lieing? When his lips are moving.

President transparent.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Whatever. If you watch those videos I just put up...The Republicans were in the majority and tired of the Democrats "blocking" everything they wanted.

It doesn't matter which side. Right now it's the Republicans. When the Republicans own the White House, the Dems will be doing it.

It's just a crappy system and it prevents stuff from getting done.