This is your Middle Man Speaking....

[SwirlsGirl]

Hello pizza shop owner Mrs. Swirls

This is your middle man speaking to you.

I realize that you have hired me to work in the capacity of your cashier mrs swirls in your pizza shop.

I have worked 9 years on your cash register and have counted,collected, and paid you your monies collected from your pizza customers for 9 years.

I being the shameless parasitic chicken fucking parasite that I am have decided that I have to suspend all of your monies being paid out until you mrs swirls can satisfy my request.

Mrs Swirls as your pizza cashier I am now demanding that you and I get to know each other better!

I am demanding that you fork over the following personal details to me and I may just resume your payouts from your pizza customers.

Yes you heard me correct mrs swirls...I am your pizza shop cashier and I now wish to get to know you better.

I will need your birth certificate, your home utility bill, a government issued form of id, and all of these documents notarized on your dime and your time to be used for me the middle man to no longer have to be just a cashier in your pizza shop.

You see mrs swirls...I am going to use these documents to incorporate with you so that in essence I am no longer just your pizza cashier, but by legalise I am now incorporated as your partner.

Again this is your middle man speaking and as I said...I will not be paying you your monies that I collected from your customers from last week because Inow expect you to make me a partner.

Until you provide me the pizza cashier with the birth cert, and personal utility bill, and notarized identification I will not be turning over to you the money I collect from your pizza customers however I will do you the favor mrs swirls of still collecting pizza monies on your account.

You see mrs swirls thats the least I can do because I am an honorable ass hat I mean middle men, I mean chicken fucker.

You see I will still allow *YOUR* customers to spend money in your pizza shop, but you mrs swirls will not be allowed to receive your customers monies until I get to know you better, and until you make me a partner.

Now you might respond and say that cashier is smoking some wacky dacky shit...I say you are wrong...this is the very raw nerve and behavior and fucked up logic of some of these dastardly middle men that you all worship and salivate over.

SO there you have it no parody...no satire....my middle man has made me a partnership/business proposal...in the form of a request and I have to consider this business/partnership request while my middle man is deliberately holding my payouts for ransom.

Yeah its actually that cut and dry....and the sick part is there is no way i would believe that a middle man could make that *request* and take that action without first assuming that everyone in this industry is dumb as a box of fucking rocks.

WHat brave soul is going to accept a request by their cashier to be made a partner, and until you accept this request your cashier will hold your monies to give you time to think LOL

fire away and let us all hear how right and noble and valiant and fair the middle men are and why I am wrong for not accepting the reasonable and fair offer by the cheesy rat!

[geedub]

[Mutt]

[Mickey_]

[SwirlsGirl]

gotta do what I gotta do to get my paper...fuck all you heartless dick tards...you would not be posting big silly ass romper room pics if your money was stolen now would you.

Oh sure you would because everything is funny to an ass hat...even not getting paid during x-mas it is fucking funny!!!!

HARDY HAR HAR MOTHER FUCKERS ...YEAH funny shit...when middle men fuck you before you fuck them....well its a fuck fest here we go!

[DamianJ]

[L-Pink]

BBC chowder overdose.

[arock10]

let me guess... you called your biller a pizza cashier

[SwirlsGirl]

comedians ...I would laugh if the dumb shit was just a little funny

OH okay my bad bbc chowder over dose was a knee slapper....I mean that is pure grade school creativity from a qualified ass hat

Bravo..lets make a funny when some one comes to the board about middle men not paying

silly pictures high school insults....yeah total reflection of the industry no honor or insult level within 1000 miles of this place.

bunch of turd cutting adult kids with weak humor, weak intelligence, and weak sphincters from dirty frank rupturing all you from behind

[Diomed]

I thought you had all this on lock?

Is this repercussion number 1 from your recently switched billing method?

[Roald]

I want your drugs.

[thatposter]

bath salts are good for you!

[dyna mo]

you could have faxed those docs in and be done with it in less time than it took you to write/rewrite this diatribe.

[SwirlsGirl]

Originally Posted by Diomed

I thought you had all this on lock?

Is this repercussion number 1 from your recently switched billing method?

Well yes and no.


But here is what happened. Although I do not use traditional 3rd party billers anymore for memberships I still am receiving a respectable amount of monthly rebills from several 3rd party billers.

Now my last wire from one of my 3rd party billers came in last friday and is usually here on fridays.

I was contacted within the past 24 hours and told that my 3rd party biller wishes to get to know me better.

To get to know me better they *request*....I say request because this is very important...

They wish to get to know me better by *REQUESTING* that I send them immediately my birth certificate, home utility bill, and passport all signed and notarized by a notary public.

Now you would think that if they actually wished to know me better they would send me a copy of their utility bill, a copy of their pass port, and a copy of their birth certificate so that we can all proceed to get better acquainted and get to know each other.

This is not the case they are claiming it to be a request but while they are making the request they have decided to not pay me any more payouts while I decide if I am going to honor their request.

Then after the dust settles and the shocking disbelief that an ass hat middle man wishes to get to know me better this strange fact emerges...

Welll then they tell you with the fine print that the way to get to know me better is to force me to form a corporation with their company.

I should not be forced to form anything with anyone.

You can present me with a *choice* but you can not present me with a demand that I fork over such personal details when you are a miserable scumbag ass hat who is forking over no personal details.

This horse shit is not that hard to understand people...

then because I wish to not form a partnership or business entity with my middle man that some how means my account gets closed, rebills stopped, all sales and reserves held for up to 6 months maybe longer

all for the crime of refusing to be forced to incorporate with my pizza shop cashier.

See you embeciles who laugh and say I am on drugs are really doing the industry a dis service.

Unless we are all ready to admit we are nothing but peasants and pawns and subjects who must do as we are told by psychotic desperate shrewd business men and women then I don't need this industry anymore.

I made my mark and I am prepared to cash the fuck out and say fuck the industry and the crooks in it.

I just can't believe that a request was made to me and before I can consider the request I am told my payouts are on hold...basically forcing me to consider the request at gun point.

They did not try this in september,october, or november...they decided to pick the same time frame we all know is zombaio's late x-mas payout time frame to decide they were not paying me my last payouts before x-mas

and you mother fuckers think I am the one on drugs and out of my birthday mind

fucking hillarious....I ain't that got damn crazy yet to realize a strong arm attempt by a desperate broke middle man.

I asked them to provide me with a certified receipt that my funds are held...no receipt has been provided so as far as I am convinced they are in breach of contract and not financially sound.

You could still pay me my payouts as I am considering the request to incorporate.

The only reason to not continue with our weekly payouts is because they most likely do not have my measely payouts to pay me.

I find it ironic that it is during the x=mas bonus interval for most companies that I have this pathetic attempt from a professional cadre of deceptive middle men to try and extort little old me during x-mas time.

Yes since I left verotel alone since back in september 2013 I have watched sales, rebills, and stats go vertical with no extra traffic.

Middlemen are not your friends especilly when they are desperate

If they are not desperate tell them to release my money immediately

[SwirlsGirl]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you could have faxed those docs in and be done with it in less time than it took you to write/rewrite this diatribe.

way over your head if that is your only response respectfully.

I could surrender my purse to some asshole on the street because they say hand it over.

just do it...why respond?

Why have a mind of your own to question...just do what the fuck a middle man tells you and all will be fine

we are done for as an industry when nobody asks questions anymore and just does what they are told.

I just can't do it...I guess I am the only one who sees it this way...well we will see what happens I think perhaps they may come to their senses...it most likely will be a protracted struggle but I have faith they will come back to reality before it's all said and done

The rest of you hillbillies and chicken fuckers can do what you want...send them dna,send them documents, send them mortgage deed, car and boat title, so that they can get to know you better and do you the favor of converting your sales to loans at 15-20%

I will be all the names I need to be crazy, silly, retarded, fine, I amnot here to take orders from cheesy rat middlemen....

that is for you ass hats to do....and love and worship your middle men and invite them over to your home for bar b cue

peace

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl

way over your head if that is your only response respectfully.

I could surrender my purse to some asshole on the street because they say hand it over.

just do it...why respond?

Why have a mind of your own to question...just do what the fuck a middle man tells you and all will be fine

we are done for as an industry when nobody asks questions anymore and just does what they are told.

I just can't do it...I guess I am the only one who sees it this way...well we will see what happens I think perhaps they may come to their senses...it most likely will be a protracted struggle but I have faith they will come back to reality before it's all said and done

The rest of you hillbillies and chicken fuckers can do what you want...send them dna,send them documents, send them mortgage deed, car and boat title, so that they can get to know you better and do you the favor of converting your sales to loans at 15-20%

I will be all the names I need to be crazy, silly, retarded, fine, I amnot here to take orders from cheesy rat middlemen....

that is for you ass hats to do....and love and worship your middle men and invite them over to your home for bar b cue

peace

agreed.

your psychotic rants all in the 3rd person using cryptic metaphors about pizza are way over my head.

thankfully.

in the meantime, i can fax documents, get deals done and make money while you're crafting your over my head gibberish.

congrats.

[SwirlsGirl]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

agreed.

your psychotic rants all in the 3rd person using cryptic metaphors about pizza are way over my head.

thankfully.

in the meantime, i can fax documents, get deals done and make money while you're crafting your over my head gibberish.

congrats.

U are the man should I kneel before you and offer to carefully cusp your sac and give it ample stroke and pleasure as you ejaculate over your ability to make money and follow orders given to you by middle men.

Money is not everything....

[dyna mo]

i never said money is everything, and i can assure you i don't spend time with middlemen for fun. nevertheless, it's 2013, the barter system is no longer viable and when the mortgage bill is due, my telling them that it's the middlemen's fault because they want proof of who i am and i refuse isn't going to keep my home.

[SwirlsGirl]

amazing how an asshat calls me psycho...

I am not the one ceasing people monies during x-mas time, and hiding behind made up red tape to try and justify my blatant desperation and theft.

I am being asked by a middle man to consider incorporating with them and while I am considering their request I have to have my payouts suspended....LOL

Like I can not think clearly enough while my payouts are coming in... I nned the help of my middle man to suspend my payouts so that I may think clearly about their offer to get to know me better!

Then you call me crazy....but dare say nothing of these bat shit crazy middle men...

this shit is priceless I am glad it is documented on this board... nobody would believe that our industry is a bunch of non critical thinking fools who do not question or challenge anything dictated to them by skillless parasitical middle men.

This confirms and illustrates every middle man thread to perfection, they actually believe they can do what the fuck they wish with your money.

I will never understand that part of this industry....black cum jokes not with standing I will never understand how so many have been programmed to attack everyone who questions middle men and their tactics.

Its a wrap I am convinced if a middle man told you to pull the plug on your family member who is on life support or lose your processing...well lets just admit you would do you own mother dirty so long as a middle man gave you a reason to do it.

No words left for you that agree with this action or ability for a fucking middle man to be able to shut your payouts off whnever the fuck they wish with impunity and no repercussions.

thats it...it is what we have become...and we will suffer for allowing ourselves to be ruled, controlled, bamboozled by the all powerful all knowledgeable middle men who have taken over this industry.

Phony stats not with standing

manipulated stats not with standing, billing fraud every where and now payout fraud!

But hey whats not to like its the way wizards play and middle men roll!

carry on dumb fucks...send in your wedding rings, send them your utility bills, send them your bank statments, give them your gps coordinates..

why not? Give it to them because they are middle men and they are asking you!
You better do what they got damn well told you bitches LOL

[TampaToker]

You and MrMaxwell should hook up

[postalsex]

grow up and stop making 10 threads about the same subject better use that time to send in the required docs...

[dyna mo]

you call me an asshat like you think i don't know that already.

of course i'm an asshat, that's why i come here, to act like an asshat.

but you do act shocked when peeps call you a psycho.

[SwirlsGirl]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you call me an asshat like you think i don't know that already.

of course i'm an asshat, that's why i come here, to act like an asshat.

but you do act shocked when peeps call you a psycho.

I don;t worry too much about what people call me


been called much worse by much more scary folks then the people around here.

It is the principle and still is the principle.

This misunderstanding can be worked out, reasonably without suspending any bodys payouts.

that is the point the moment you understand that a mother fucking cheesy rat middle man can steal your money at will, is the moment you realize there must be a better way.

I am glad for you dynamo that any and all payouts that you are scheduled to receive this week, next week or the week after will not be intercepted, stolen, held.

I am sure your family will enjoy the riches and fullness of a bright and happy x-mas since you are not on payout suspension...

good boy now go out in play we are at recess

[dyna mo]

there's more to life than money payouts, right swirls?

[baddog]

GFY has a ton of weirdos and trolls; but holy fuck, swirls puts them all to shame

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by baddog

GFY has a ton of weirdos and trolls; but holy fuck, swirls puts them all to shame

That will not make you any younger.

I'm not sure what happened completely but i do know a request for info was just recently made and the consequence for not providing requested info was holding money.

The info was birthplace, 2 forms of id, a notary, and a a document filled with questions which was encouraged to fill them out with as much info as possible.

So between those requests and these threads something has obviously happened.

Im not in a position to smooth anything over but i will say that sara swirls has a dedicated following and chargebacks can occur up to 120 days from charge. Something to think about for those who intend to flex muscles and strong arm.

[Paully]

Originally Posted by beaner

That will not make you any younger.

I'm not sure what happened completely but i do know a request for info was just recently made and the consequence for not providing requested info was holding money.

The info was birthplace, 2 forms of id, a notary, and a a document filled with questions which was encouraged to fill them out with as much info as possible.

So between those requests and these threads something has obviously happened.

Im not in a position to smooth anything over but i will say that sara swirls has a dedicated following and chargebacks can occur up to 120 days from charge. Something to think about for those who intend to flex muscles and strong arm.

Clown .

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by Paully

Clown .

Shoes.... ;)

[Lichen]

Why not sue them?

They can not hold your money ransom until you comply with their random demands.

[rowan]

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl

Hello pizza shop owner Mrs. Swirls

This is your middle man speaking to you.

I realize that you have hired me to work in the capacity of your cashier mrs swirls in your pizza shop.

I have worked 9 years on your cash register and have counted,collected, and paid you your monies collected from your pizza customers for 9 years.

I being the shameless parasitic chicken fucking parasite that I am have decided that I have to suspend all of your monies being paid out until you mrs swirls can satisfy my request.

Mrs Swirls as your pizza cashier I am now demanding that you and I get to know each other better!

I am demanding that you fork over the following personal details to me and I may just resume your payouts from your pizza customers.

Yes you heard me correct mrs swirls...I am your pizza shop cashier and I now wish to get to know you better.

I will need your birth certificate, your home utility bill, a government issued form of id, and all of these documents notarized on your dime and your time to be used for me the middle man to no longer have to be just a cashier in your pizza shop.

You see mrs swirls...I am going to use these documents to incorporate with you so that in essence I am no longer just your pizza cashier, but by legalise I am now incorporated as your partner.

Again this is your middle man speaking and as I said...I will not be paying you your monies that I collected from your customers from last week because Inow expect you to make me a partner.

Until you provide me the pizza cashier with the birth cert, and personal utility bill, and notarized identification I will not be turning over to you the money I collect from your pizza customers however I will do you the favor mrs swirls of still collecting pizza monies on your account.

You see mrs swirls thats the least I can do because I am an honorable ass hat I mean middle men, I mean chicken fucker.

You see I will still allow *YOUR* customers to spend money in your pizza shop, but you mrs swirls will not be allowed to receive your customers monies until I get to know you better, and until you make me a partner.

Now you might respond and say that cashier is smoking some wacky dacky shit...I say you are wrong...this is the very raw nerve and behavior and fucked up logic of some of these dastardly middle men that you all worship and salivate over.

SO there you have it no parody...no satire....my middle man has made me a partnership/business proposal...in the form of a request and I have to consider this business/partnership request while my middle man is deliberately holding my payouts for ransom.

Yeah its actually that cut and dry....and the sick part is there is no way i would believe that a middle man could make that *request* and take that action without first assuming that everyone in this industry is dumb as a box of fucking rocks.

WHat brave soul is going to accept a request by their cashier to be made a partner, and until you accept this request your cashier will hold your monies to give you time to think LOL

fire away and let us all hear how right and noble and valiant and fair the middle men are and why I am wrong for not accepting the reasonable and fair offer by the cheesy rat!

[OldJeff]

Holy FUCK.........you mean there are laws requiring ID in place to prevent money laundering and terrorism funding ?

AND 3rd party billers are required to comply with these laws..................

When did this fucking shit start !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Markul]

Originally Posted by OldJeff

Holy FUCK.........you mean there are laws requiring ID in place to prevent money laundering and terrorism funding ?

AND 3rd party billers are required to comply with these laws..................

When did this fucking shit start !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol yea, the other day I had to freaking give my lawyer a copy of my drivers license and social security card because of those laws. That made me laugh my ass off, we've only been working together for 5 years

[sperbonzo]

The biller couldn't care less about collecting this information. Why make your customers jump through hoops? The actual problem is with the GOVERNMENT. They have KYC and AML requirements that force billers to collect that information.


You are completely barking up the wrong tree. You should be yelling about government interference. Do you think that the biller is collecting this information just because they feel like being dicks? The people that run the biller don't want to be put in jail, so they are forced to comply. I don't understand how you can't get that this is a GOVERNMENT problem, not a biller problem.


Or do you refuse to see it because that wouldn't fit with your "more government is better" worldview?



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[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

The biller couldn't care less about collecting this information. Why make your customers jump through hoops? The actual problem is with the GOVERNMENT. They have KYC and AML requirements that force billers to collect that information.


You are completely barking up the wrong tree. You should be yelling about government interference. Do you think that the biller is collecting this information just because they feel like being dicks? The people that run the biller don't want to be put in jail, so they are forced to comply. I don't understand how you can't get that this is a GOVERNMENT problem, not a biller problem.


Or do you refuse to see it because that wouldn't fit with your "more government is better" worldview?



.

so your processing business is in bed with government eh.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl

amazing how an asshat calls me psycho...

EVERYONE calls you psycho, because you are either totally fucking batshit cray cray or you are on some serious drugs. As Beaner, your BFF, also posts like he is either bipolar or on drugs too, I guess you too are made for each other.

[pimpmaster9000]

the biller is simply complying with KYC laws and if he does not he gets shut down...if you want your money send them the documents...if you can not send the documents then there is a good reason why you are not doing it and it has nothing to do with hurt pride or principles...just send the fucking documents

[bluebook18]

Originally Posted by rowan

I thought it's paul markham

[Paul]

[mineistaken]

Did not read!

[TurboAngel]

Well are you getting the money today as it's Friday?

[postalsex]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

the biller is simply complying with KYC laws and if he does not he gets shut down...if you want your money send them the documents...if you can not send the documents then there is a good reason why you are not doing it and it has nothing to do with hurt pride or principles...just send the fucking documents

exactly, thumbs up to the biller for not jeopardizing their whole operation for some nutcase.
And may be a lesson for the other ppl not willing to abide the laws and regulations, either be legit or dont do business.

[dyna mo]

when dollars are involved, who doesn't want to know who is who?

[thatposter]

Originally Posted by postalsex

exactly, thumbs up to the biller for not jeopardizing their whole operation for some nutcase.
And may be a lesson for the other ppl not willing to abide the laws and regulations, either be legit or dont do business.

the system got to this one. lost cause.

[postalsex]

Originally Posted by thatposter

the system got to this one. lost cause.

the system.... yeah you want to make business you have to play by the rules. otherwise she can go sell drugs on the corner of the street nobody will ask her for IDs or any documents....

[Dirty D]

pure comedy...

Instead of psycho rants, how about educating yourself.
Read up on the "know your customers" anti money laundering laws.

[SwirlsGirl]

look a thread full of middle men bots LOL

real webmasters would never attack real webmasters for having funds stolen.

that is clearly troll or bot behavior nice try parasites.

I don't have nothing to hide, I can send them a file this moment with a signed affidavit, notarized drivers license insurance card, you name it to validate and verify that we are the one's they are doing business with.

This is not about verification of anything as sperbonzo said...this is demanding that I create a business entity with them.

Do you morons not understand you just don't go throwing documents all over the place without fully understanding how they will be used?

The moral of the story here should not be just do what you are told.

The moral of the story is just pay your clients no ands if buts.

If client does not agree or see eye to eye with parasite then parasite needs to settle all funds with client first,

close clients account second

part ways with client third

that is the proper protocol

not parasite decide to hold clients funds ransom and demand personal docs or no funds

not when client has 9 year relation ship with parasite in good standing

it is cruddy no matter how u slice it

[dyna mo]

yes, verotel wants your birth cert so they can make a fake id and get into da club

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

BBC chowder overdose.

I stand by my original diagnosis.

[JockoHomo]

Hey, I have not read a single post simply because I only read the first 4 lines of any post.

Please condense your posts down to only the essential fucked up information for me.

Thank you and as always, have a nice day.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl

real webmasters would never attack real webmasters for having funds stolen.

no one is attacking for having funds stolen, they are mocking you for being a dribbling fucktard.