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Old 01-13-2014, 05:09 AM   #101
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Based on this thread I decided to register with a few networks including Mundo media, adsimilis and click dealer. Not one contacted me back or approved me.
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Old 01-13-2014, 05:29 AM   #102
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I'm making 30k per month media buying, but I will tell you having competitive intelligence isn't enough.

The secret is in testing and optimizing. And how to do that step by step, no one will ever tell you - because that is what the secret of making it big really is ;)
You're making 30k per month, but work as a blog post writer for 1c per word.

Okay.
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You're making 30k per month, but work as a blog post writer for 1c per word.

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Often times having a guaranteed salary along with guaranteed hours is a better fit than unknown earnings and insanely long hours.
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Based on this thread I decided to register with a few networks including Mundo media, adsimilis and click dealer. Not one contacted me back or approved me.
Most of their reps are most likely at Internext and Affiliate Summit in Vegas.
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You're making 30k per month, but work as a blog post writer for 1c per word.

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You're making 30k per month, but work as a blog post writer for 1c per word.

Okay.
Maybe he doesn't do the writing and has a team of outsourcers.
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Based on this thread I decided to register with a few networks including Mundo media, adsimilis and click dealer. Not one contacted me back or approved me.
Yeah everyone is at the biggest affiliate conference of the year in Vegas this week, including me.
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Old 01-14-2014, 01:01 AM   #108
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Good thread to sell own product

how many paid members are registered in your intelligent system?

I am interested in this system but want to know if anyone use it.
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Old 01-14-2014, 03:42 AM   #109
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No fucking way these dating aff do $5.000 a day.
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Often times having a guaranteed salary along with guaranteed hours is a better fit than unknown earnings and insanely long hours.
Well done! hahahahah perfect timing
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The software is good, however you will not make any money.

You will waste whatever you spent on your credit card for ads, and the monthly fee.

Very few can make any sort of profit at it and they all have special higher paying deals direct.
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The software is good, however you will not make any money.

You will waste whatever you spent on your credit card for ads, and the monthly fee.

Very few can make any sort of profit at it and they all have special higher paying deals direct.
ofcourse you can't make 10k in a day with his tool in a week time, but im sure for beginners in the field it will give a lot of pointers, advices, ideas etc that will help you.

don't forgot how most gfyers were laughing at bitcoin when it was $3 per....
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kind of interesting, good mainstream spin on adult
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Making this kind of money in this way is easy if you have money to start because you have to have say 100k to buy traffic direct from source with no overhead and then you have to have a deal in place with program or own one that nobody even knows you own.

So you buy traffic at 60% of the market price so you already make more than most do. Then you sell at twice the price for each lead. And we are talking 1000 leads in a day so you make a killing.

When you start out of your mom's basement you will do make more than you make now but nothing like these guys do because you don't have the budget or track record to get bonuses.
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No fucking way these dating aff do $5.000 a day.
Way. $5,000/day ain't anything special either. There is a big bunch of affs that do $xx,xxx per day. Ask the adult cpa affiliate networks yourself. Some of our affs at F5media do 5 figures too.
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The software is good, however you will not make any money.

You will waste whatever you spent on your credit card for ads, and the monthly fee.

Very few can make any sort of profit at it and they all have special higher paying deals direct.
I'd love to know where you get your insight from. "They all have special higher paying deals direct". That comment is 100% false.
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I have an account at trafficjunky.. I haven't jumped into this yet, but you can see what other people are bidding for keywords and what they're daily budget is.

Some spending $20,000 a day and up buying traffic, so obviously this is working or that type of money would not be going out every day.

Others who are spending $100 a day to buy traffic..
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Some spending $20,000 a day and up buying traffic, so obviously this is working or that type of money would not be going out every day.
It's working because these scammers have access to banks that are in bed with them, banging surfer cards. They sell "free" memberships that bill people for $150 per transaction.

It's obvious that regular webmasters can't compete with the rates that these scammers are paying for traffic spots.

You don't need any special tools. Just go check the prices at the biggest traffic networks like TrafficJunky / TrafficForce. You will see that the spots are way out of your league.
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It's working because these scammers have access to banks that are in bed with them, banging surfer cards. They sell "free" memberships that bill people for $150 per transaction.

It's obvious that regular webmasters can't compete with the rates that these scammers are paying for traffic spots.

You don't need any special tools. Just go check the prices at the biggest traffic networks like TrafficJunky / TrafficForce. You will see that the spots are way out of your league.
It's frustrating reading this. You are giving miss information to everyone. Regular webmasters can't compete against paid porn site owners, but we can definitely work along side them. There is more porn traffic on the internet than anyone company can handle. Do some research. You will see there are boatloads of regular webmasters aka affiliates doing huge numbers.

I'd advise you to attend an affiliate conference or meet up. Your mind will be blown.
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It's frustrating reading this. You are giving miss information to everyone. Regular webmasters can't compete against paid porn site owners, but we can definitely work along side them.
That was not my experience. ALL traffic on big networks was bought out by paysite owners (it's easy to see, just go check the rates for the spots and see if any are available). I myself have paysites and could not compete with the scammers, because they bang people for $150 per sale and can afford to pay quite a lot for traffic.

If you are a small webmaster, you can not pay these traffic rates. Maybe on some obscure mainstream networks, but certainly not on tubes. Programs are cutting out affiliates now and generate their own traffic.

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I'd love to know where you get your insight from. "They all have special higher paying deals direct". That comment is 100% false.
How about from myself?

I am not going to goto another mainstream board(s) and link quotes from webmasters who say they are direct or recommend it.

I know you want to peddle your service, but it will just cause webmasters to get a false sense they can make money.
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i think you need to add the tagline

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We have a variety of super affiliates who are making big $$ using similar methods.
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That was not my experience. ALL traffic on big networks was bought out by paysite owners (it's easy to see, just go check the rates for the spots and see if any are available). I myself have paysites and could not compete with the scammers, because they bang people for $150 per sale and can afford to pay quite a lot for traffic.

If you are a small webmaster, you can not pay these traffic rates. Maybe on some obscure mainstream networks, but certainly not on tubes. Programs are cutting out affiliates now and generate their own traffic.
Hi Lichen, contact trafficjunky or exoclick. Between them they own a huge chunk of the internets porn traffic. They will tell you otherwise. In terms of programs cutting out affiliates, some are, some aren't, new programs are opening up. There is a no question affiliates are making huge money still on tube sites.

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How about from myself?

I am not going to goto another mainstream board(s) and link quotes from webmasters who say they are direct or recommend it.

I know you want to peddle your service, but it will just cause webmasters to get a false sense they can make money.
Hi KillerK, I think you will find this thread has gone way past me "peddling my service". Instead, I'm trying to help readers against misinformation in regards to the adult affiliate marketing industry.

The majority of posts in this thread are people saying you can't make money as an affiliate by advertising on mainstream tube sites.

Don't buy the product that we mention. It's not for everyone, we accept that. But don't go posting misinformed information that puts off all the guys on here wanting to actually learn something.

The issue I think you have is, you are getting your information from "mainstream boards", which will supply mainstream information. Look for where the big affiliates hangout, the ones who are actually buying the tube traffic.
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if you make 5k a day, you woudlnt share your methods for a measly bucks, look at all the products on warrior forum, do any of them actually work? probably not.

the only incoming that is made goes to the asswipe that puts out that crap.
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There are a few competitive trackers like this on the market. One I met at Phoenix last year was very robust. In the end it is a tool, and you still have to do due diligence and testing. There is no magic bullet.
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if you make 5k a day, you woudlnt share your methods for a measly bucks, look at all the products on warrior forum, do any of them actually work? probably not.

the only incoming that is made goes to the asswipe that puts out that crap.
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if you make 5k a day, you wouldn't share your methods for a measly bucks, look at all the products on warrior forum, do any of them actually work? probably not.

the only incoming that is made goes to the asswipe that puts out that crap.
I'm sharing a tool that I use to make 5k a day. A tool that the vast majority of adult CPA affiliates use to make big numbers. I'm not sharing my method.

It isn't a question of whether the tool works or not. It does.

The tool gets you 70-80% of the way. You see entire campaigns that are being run on adult sites. Most of the work done for you.

However, you need to get off your ass, and sign up to the right affiliate networks, talk to your affiliate managers get them to give you the right offers, payouts. You need test bidding strategies on whatever ad networks you wish to run on.

We are also aware of how little people take action. We have written published 100% step by step profitable guides before. It wasn't a big campaign, maybe $50 profit per day. People would read it and take a mental note oh that's awesome, i'll copy that tomorrow. Tomorrow = never. We knew they didn't take action because we were still #1 bidders.
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STM, why don't affiliate managers just use the tool for themselves and make all this great money?

Or better yet, why don't all of us paysite owners just do it ourselves and keep all the money?

I know some guys are making some sales...I don't doubt it.

But if you ask 100 people about porn...you will get 100 people telling you it's all free.

Too bad your tool didn't exist before piracy and full members areas given away to millions of people.
I bet it would have made a lot more money about seven years ago before the majority of the population was trained to think that you're not supposed to pay for porn.
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A few things people really don't seem to understand.

1) There is fuck loads of traffic in this biz.
2) It's quite valuable... and its widely available to everyone in a way that it never has been before.
3) I can think of at least 10 people doing over $5,000.00 USD a day with media buys just off the top of my head. And there are a few doing $50-$100k per day that I know of. 2 of them post on this forum. 1 of them seems to enjoy pretending to be insane.
4) I do well into 5 figures a month and don't even spend that much time on it, but i've been doing it since before Yahoo bought Overture.
4) You can't use this tool to copy campaigns and what people are doing. It takes a great deal more than that to make it work. It just gives you an overview of what people are doing (ad/lp combinations, how long they have been running etc).
5) Ads aren't generally for porn sites and porn sites aren't commonly promoted for the same reason dating has always out-performed porn when placed side by side. User motivation and earnings per click. A person is more motivated to;
  • a: Have sex that day than join a pay site and masturbate
  • b: Meet women to have sex with in the near future than join a paysite masturbate
  • c: Make their penis larger (presumably for confidence/attracting women to have sex with) than join a paysite and masturbate
  • d: Pay for programs to teach them to meet women and have sex with than join a paysite and masturbate
6) This "tool" is not new, a new idea or the only one available and used.

Suggesting its going to make you money is misleading. It's a tool for gathering information. Is it going to make you $5000 a day? Well... ask yourself this: Does giving a retard a hammer make him a master carpenter?

Of course not. It takes a great deal of experience and you will likely suffer a great many losses before you ever turn a profit.

If you don't understand that the tool does and what value it has to you, then you don't need it as you haven't progressed that far in experience yet.

The tool I am sure is useful to the right people. But it takes a great deal of experience (and losses) to make use of it and turn a profit with media buys.
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still sounds like a scam, until someone buys this from here, and does it and makes 5k a day and reports back.
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About media buying: Probably you squeeze some decent money out of a small niche and unique ad angle. For the main niches on the tubes it's obviously the big guys with large margins and budgets who run the show.

About the tool: I tried the trial version of this tool months ago, almost each function was an upsell to the 200$ a month subscription when using the trail. Support emails were not answered.
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still sounds like a scam, until someone buys this from here, and does it and makes 5k a day and reports back.
The "scam" is trying to market a simple tool that gives you a broad overview of what others are doing (information which is also easily gathered by simply opening tube sites and clicking on ads), by stating that dating affiliates are using this tool to make $5000.00 a day. They aren't. A handful of people may be using it and may also be making money ... but they aren't making money BECAUSE of any tool or the information gathered with it.

If any tool worked like that and took guesswork, intuition, trial and error and testing out of the equation, every media buyer out there would not lose money on each new campaign at first. Every media buyer out there would not be living by the mantra "test test test and never stop testing"
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A few things people really don't seem to understand.

1) There is fuck loads of traffic in this biz.
2) It's quite valuable... and its widely available to everyone in a way that it never has been before.
3) I can think of at least 10 people doing over $5,000.00 USD a day with media buys just off the top of my head. And there are a few doing $50-$100k per day that I know of. 2 of them post on this forum. 1 of them seems to enjoy pretending to be insane.
4) I do well into 5 figures a month and don't even spend that much time on it, but i've been doing it since before Yahoo bought Overture.
4) You can't use this tool to copy campaigns and what people are doing. It takes a great deal more than that to make it work. It just gives you an overview of what people are doing (ad/lp combinations, how long they have been running etc).
5) Ads aren't generally for porn sites and porn sites aren't commonly promoted for the same reason dating has always out-performed porn when placed side by side. User motivation and earnings per click. A person is more motivated to;
  • a: Have sex that day than join a pay site and masturbate
  • b: Meet women to have sex with in the near future than join a paysite masturbate
  • c: Make their penis larger (presumably for confidence/attracting women to have sex with) than join a paysite and masturbate
  • d: Pay for programs to teach them to meet women and have sex with than join a paysite and masturbate
6) This "tool" is not new, a new idea or the only one available and used.

Suggesting its going to make you money is misleading. It's a tool for gathering information. Is it going to make you $5000 a day? Well... ask yourself this: Does giving a retard a hammer make him a master carpenter?

Of course not. It takes a great deal of experience and you will likely suffer a great many losses before you ever turn a profit.

If you don't understand that the tool does and what value it has to you, then you don't need it as you haven't progressed that far in experience yet.

The tool I am sure is useful to the right people. But it takes a great deal of experience (and losses) to make use of it and turn a profit with media buys.
Man that is a nice post, thanks
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nice post, but what are people netting?

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A few things people really don't seem to understand.

1) There is fuck loads of traffic in this biz.
2) It's quite valuable... and its widely available to everyone in a way that it never has been before.
3) I can think of at least 10 people doing over $5,000.00 USD a day with media buys just off the top of my head. And there are a few doing $50-$100k per day that I know of. 2 of them post on this forum. 1 of them seems to enjoy pretending to be insane.
4) I do well into 5 figures a month and don't even spend that much time on it, but i've been doing it since before Yahoo bought Overture.
4) You can't use this tool to copy campaigns and what people are doing. It takes a great deal more than that to make it work. It just gives you an overview of what people are doing (ad/lp combinations, how long they have been running etc).
5) Ads aren't generally for porn sites and porn sites aren't commonly promoted for the same reason dating has always out-performed porn when placed side by side. User motivation and earnings per click. A person is more motivated to;
  • a: Have sex that day than join a pay site and masturbate
  • b: Meet women to have sex with in the near future than join a paysite masturbate
  • c: Make their penis larger (presumably for confidence/attracting women to have sex with) than join a paysite and masturbate
  • d: Pay for programs to teach them to meet women and have sex with than join a paysite and masturbate
6) This "tool" is not new, a new idea or the only one available and used.

Suggesting its going to make you money is misleading. It's a tool for gathering information. Is it going to make you $5000 a day? Well... ask yourself this: Does giving a retard a hammer make him a master carpenter?

Of course not. It takes a great deal of experience and you will likely suffer a great many losses before you ever turn a profit.

If you don't understand that the tool does and what value it has to you, then you don't need it as you haven't progressed that far in experience yet.

The tool I am sure is useful to the right people. But it takes a great deal of experience (and losses) to make use of it and turn a profit with media buys.
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A few things people really don't seem to understand.

1) There is fuck loads of traffic in this biz.
2) It's quite valuable... and its widely available to everyone in a way that it never has been before.
3) I can think of at least 10 people doing over $5,000.00 USD a day with media buys just off the top of my head. And there are a few doing $50-$100k per day that I know of. 2 of them post on this forum. 1 of them seems to enjoy pretending to be insane.
4) I do well into 5 figures a month and don't even spend that much time on it, but i've been doing it since before Yahoo bought Overture.
4) You can't use this tool to copy campaigns and what people are doing. It takes a great deal more than that to make it work. It just gives you an overview of what people are doing (ad/lp combinations, how long they have been running etc).
5) Ads aren't generally for porn sites and porn sites aren't commonly promoted for the same reason dating has always out-performed porn when placed side by side. User motivation and earnings per click. A person is more motivated to;
  • a: Have sex that day than join a pay site and masturbate
  • b: Meet women to have sex with in the near future than join a paysite masturbate
  • c: Make their penis larger (presumably for confidence/attracting women to have sex with) than join a paysite and masturbate
  • d: Pay for programs to teach them to meet women and have sex with than join a paysite and masturbate
6) This "tool" is not new, a new idea or the only one available and used.

Suggesting its going to make you money is misleading. It's a tool for gathering information. Is it going to make you $5000 a day? Well... ask yourself this: Does giving a retard a hammer make him a master carpenter?

Of course not. It takes a great deal of experience and you will likely suffer a great many losses before you ever turn a profit.

If you don't understand that the tool does and what value it has to you, then you don't need it as you haven't progressed that far in experience yet.

The tool I am sure is useful to the right people. But it takes a great deal of experience (and losses) to make use of it and turn a profit with media buys.
If there was a Nobel prize for posting on a porn webmaster site this post would persuade the committee.
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I'm sharing a tool that I use to make 5k a day. A tool that the vast majority of adult CPA affiliates use to make big numbers.
a) you're not sharing it, you're selling it
b) you are not making 5k a day
c) neither are the "vast majority of adult CPA affiliates"
d) fuck off with your bullshit already, anyone with half a brain can see through this sham
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Interesting, but many of the veterans make excellent points.
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Easy way to make money - Tell others you know how they make make a bunch of easy money and charge them. Of course, they don't make any money. Same old story year after year.
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if you make 5k a day, you woudlnt share your methods for a measly bucks, look at all the products on warrior forum, do any of them actually work? probably not.

the only incoming that is made goes to the asswipe that puts out that crap.
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a) you're not sharing it, you're selling it.
b) you are not making 5k a day
c) neither are the "vast majority of adult CPA affiliates"
d) fuck off with your bullshit already, anyone with half a brain can see through this sham
a) By sharing, I meant showing you this tool that most of you never knew about before.
b) I'm not making 5k a day, correct. I'm making more than that. Feel free to do a bit of research.
c) The majority of adult CPA affiliates aren't making 5k a day that is correct.
d) Luckily most people have a whole brain, and they can see it's not a sham, I'm being pretty upfront of how things are. The problem is there are lot of opinions being through around with little fact behind them, including yours.

I'll sum up this thread two paragraphs.

I'm selling an adult spy tool for $79/month. This will give you an overview of affiliates campaigns being run on all major adult ad networks. You will see all ads, and landing pages. You have two choices; either buy it or ignore it.

If you want to talk about the state of adult affiliate marketing. Don't just throw out uneducated statements to put off others. There is more to affiliate marketing than direct linking a $100 CPS offer you tested on one tube site.

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But if you ask 100 people about porn...you will get 100 people telling you it's all free.
Yes, porn is free. But selling a millennial his chance at banging a MILF will pay you $4-$10 per free signup (depends on the country).
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b) I'm not making 5k a day, correct. I'm making more than that. Feel free to do a bit of research.


I'll sum up this thread two paragraphs.

I'm selling an adult spy tool for $79/month.

You are making more than $5k per day but wasting your time trolling for 1-2 people who would buy your $79/month software?

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Yes, porn is free. But selling a millennial his chance at banging a MILF will pay you $4-$10 per free signup (depends on the country).
I agree...but first you have to be able to find that 1 in 10 million guys who isn't already cookied in from Pornhub.
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The software is good, however you will not make any money.

You will waste whatever you spent on your credit card for ads, and the monthly fee.

Very few can make any sort of profit at it and they all have special higher paying deals direct.
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I'd love to know where you get your insight from. "They all have special higher paying deals direct". That comment is 100% false.
No.. That comment is 100% true.
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a) By sharing, I meant showing you this tool that most of you never knew about before.
b) I'm not making 5k a day, correct. I'm making more than that. Feel free to do a bit of research.
c) The majority of adult CPA affiliates aren't making 5k a day that is correct.
d) Luckily most people have a whole brain, and they can see it's not a sham, I'm being pretty upfront of how things are. The problem is there are lot of opinions being through around with little fact behind them, including yours.

I'll sum up this thread two paragraphs.

I'm selling an adult spy tool for $79/month. This will give you an overview of affiliates campaigns being run on all major adult ad networks. You will see all ads, and landing pages. You have two choices; either buy it or ignore it.

If you want to talk about the state of adult affiliate marketing. Don't just throw out uneducated statements to put off others. There is more to affiliate marketing than direct linking a $100 CPS offer you tested on one tube site.
how about you have an affiliate manager come forward and vouch for you.

to proove you are actually making 5k+ a day.

if you really are making $150,000 a month, you wouldnt be trying to sell this.

No screenshots of earnings either, not from paypal like those warriors do, from actual affiliate programs.

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how about you have an affiliate manager come forward and vouch for you.

to proove you are actually making 5k+ a day.
Pretty sure he's speaking the truth. He's managing partner of F5 Media, one of the affiliate networks he's referring to. (Or is it not you, Lorenzo?)
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