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Old 01-16-2014, 08:24 AM   #51
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then stop using programs that steal from you...
I don't want to do so because some of these programs convert well for me. I rather hide my URLs [but I am not doing so currently] and no one can simply copy our methods, they are not that simple.. Also: its not just about sponsors, but big free sites as well. Now that Roald, who I respect and like for long time is not @ FreeOnes I can tell that I hated how freeones killed their submitters.. Its understandable [yeeees, its their site, its their traffic], and I guess it was not Roald who found out those things/steps.. But its a fact that gallery submitters were able to make decent money by creating very fresh and unique and 'GOOD' galleries exclusively for them, and once they grow fukkin big they altered the model pages to a form that killed 95% [literally] of the income the submitters made..
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:34 AM   #52
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I don't want to do so because some of these programs convert well for me. I rather hide my URLs [but I am not doing so currently] and no one can simply copy our methods, they are not that simple.. Also: its not just about sponsors, but big free sites as well. Now that Roald, who I respect and like for long time is not @ FreeOnes I can tell that I hated how freeones killed their submitters.. Its understandable [yeeees, its their site, its their traffic], and I guess it was not Roald who found out those things/steps.. But its a fact that gallery submitters were able to make decent money by creating very fresh and unique and 'GOOD' galleries exclusively for them, and once they grow fukkin big they altered the model pages to a form that killed 95% [literally] of the income the submitters made..
This is one of the many things I don't worry about anymore since I became my own sponsor.

But ideally you should be able to work it out with your sponsor. I've done media buys in mainstream where the traffic seller just told me straight up: We are not going to let you know where the leads are coming from, that's confidential. If it's not working out for you then we'll adjust the price or the scrub but that's our traffic source and it's none of your business.

It wasn't a deal breaker for me, but I can see how it would be for some, especially depending how badly they've been burned in the past.
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:31 PM   #53
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does anyone here know how to hide the referring URL when sending an sponsors traffic?
Sounds like you run a legit operation.
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Old 01-16-2014, 11:52 PM   #54
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I don't want to do so because some of these programs convert well for me. I rather hide my URLs [but I am not doing so currently] and no one can simply copy our methods, they are not that simple.. Also: its not just about sponsors, but big free sites as well. Now that Roald, who I respect and like for long time is not @ FreeOnes I can tell that I hated how freeones killed their submitters.. Its understandable [yeeees, its their site, its their traffic], and I guess it was not Roald who found out those things/steps.. But its a fact that gallery submitters were able to make decent money by creating very fresh and unique and 'GOOD' galleries exclusively for them, and once they grow fukkin big they altered the model pages to a form that killed 95% [literally] of the income the submitters made..
Hey hey, I know and it's a decision we made along the line. You could also say on the other hand that we never charged webmasters like all the other sites did ;)
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