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Old 01-29-2014, 09:36 AM   #1
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program owners...mailing solutions

Does anybody have any mailing solutions they like other than mailing straight out of NATS? I find the throughput is not what I would like it to be.

Suggestions?
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:39 AM   #2
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Check out www.phplist.com it works great.
Make sure to use it on a fresh IP or one that is not already tainted.
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:45 AM   #3
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:50 AM   #4
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Check out www.phplist.com it works great.
Make sure to use it on a fresh IP or one that is not already tainted.
Good tip, thanks :-)
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:55 AM   #5
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If you're sending email, the goal is not just to "send email" as a mass volume, throwing shit against the wall strategy.

The goal should be to inbox and increase traffic/conversions/branding of whatever you end objective is for the product or website. That can take a lot more than simply loading up an old or current membership list and hitting send. Effective delivery involves creatives, subject lines, quality of your ip's, content of the message, spam score, so on and so forth.

In short, anyone can send email. However, your objective should be effective email marketing.

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phplist is ok for free, but I think you'd find OEMPro or Interspire Email Marketer (which is what YNOTMail uses) much easier/better.

Then there is all the set up with feedback loops, DKIM, SPF records etc.

And then, as barefootsies says, there is the strategy, and that is the hard bit.
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Old 01-29-2014, 10:08 AM   #7
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Have you tried 1st mac mailer? It's a really useful app for mac.
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Old 01-29-2014, 10:19 AM   #8
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Jay, sent you a message on Facebnook. We have something, it is an on invite only (for now) mailing solution and would be nice to have you on board.

Works with Nats as a plugin and you do NOT have to give your email DB ;)
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Jay, sent you a message on Facebnook. We have something, it is an on invite only (for now) mailing solution and would be nice to have you on board.

Works with Nats as a plugin and you do NOT have to give your email DB ;)
I am checking my FB now.
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Yeah, Let's get something going. are you on Skype?
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Then there is all the set up with feedback loops, DKIM, SPF records etc.

And then, as barefootsies says, there is the strategy, and that is the hard bit.
True dat. Anyone can hit send and spam away with reckless disregard.

Effective email marketing is something all together different.

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http://www.phplist.com/ is good. But make sure you set your SPF record right, so you dont end up in your customers spamfilter
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Check out www.phplist.com it works great.
Make sure to use it on a fresh IP or one that is not already tainted.

What Dirty D said combined with SMTP.com
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What Dirty D said combined with SMTP.com
Thanks to both of you guys, it is way too easy to burn and IP these days.

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Joel, I sent you an email, I'm sure there is a way we can trace of joins back and forth
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I recommend https://messagebus.com/

But DamianJ and BF also gave solid recommendations.
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I have a small custom mailer for each site (better targeting, yes?) but I could use something else, as well. What's the better option out there?
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If you're sending email, the goal is not just to "send email" as a mass volume, throwing shit against the wall strategy.

The goal should be to inbox and increase traffic/conversions/branding of whatever you end objective is for the product or website. That can take a lot more than simply loading up an old or current membership list and hitting send. Effective delivery involves creatives, subject lines, quality of your ip's, content of the message, spam score, so on and so forth.

In short, anyone can send email. However, your objective should be effective email marketing.

that is more of a mainstream type mailing approach with the hard-sell, soft cell pattern. With adult you just send out a half-price offer, target the best you can... it's not anything you can overthink
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that is more of a mainstream type mailing approach with the hard-sell, soft cell pattern. With adult you just send out a half-price offer, target the best you can... it's not anything you can overthink
No offense, that is completely naive.

If you think there is no difference between effective delivering to the inbox versus the junk box (strategy/technique), or managing your data (cleaning out screamers, bounces, unsubs, etc), so that you do not burn out your ip's or their reputation........ that goes to show how little you know about email marketing in that regard.

If does not matter if you're sending adult half price offers, or mainstream flexhose. The goal is to not get complaints, not burn up your ip's, and effectively hit the inbox so you have a chance of converting whatever offer you're sending. Obviously some folk understand this concept and are more successful accordingly.

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phplist is ok for free, but I think you'd find OEMPro or Interspire Email Marketer (which is what YNOTMail uses) much easier/better.

Then there is all the set up with feedback loops, DKIM, SPF records etc.

And then, as barefootsies says, there is the strategy, and that is the hard bit.
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Jay, hit me up and I'll connect you with the right solution. Head and shoulders above the rest, invite-only.
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