Maybe it's time for a GFY rule change AGAINST PIRATES...(POLL)

[NEW XTC]

This is the forum "Where the industry meets" right?

Well maybe it's time "The Industry" no longer includes pirates and posters that make overtly pro-piracy remarks.

Anyone with me on this?

[Creatine]

I completely agree. We need Harmon in here.

[Bourke]

I've heard a couple of people running file lockers claim this, thought it was just some bullshit they were trying to discredit him with. Is there proof?

As for the OP, I agree. Anyone who is proven to own/ run a piracy based website shouldnt be here.

[whOaKemosabe]

Originally Posted by Bourke

I've heard a couple of people running file lockers claim this, thought it was just some bullshit they were trying to discredit him with. Is there proof?

As for the OP, I agree. Anyone who is proven to own/ run a piracy based website shouldnt be here.

scrolldog.com/file-lockers-rebound-gfy-class-action/

[Bourke]

no mention of CP on that page.

[whOaKemosabe]

Originally Posted by Bourke

no mention of CP on that page.

http://scrolldog.com/adultking-linke...omains-donors/

[beerptrol]

Not gonna happen

[WDF]

Considering Scrolldog is financed/operated by 1 of the File Locker owners AK has been all over makes it less then credible.

When you add that scrolldog himself has been convicted of both criminal copyright infringement and continues to be directly involved in selling premium/vip accounts on file sharing forum. Add to that his conviction for sexual offenses involving a minor and you begin to question anything posted there.

He actively attacks anyone involved in disrupting the File Locker/Online Digital Piracy Eco-system, myself and the company I work for included, we are direct threats to his wallet/bank account and his freedom.

Being he has been incognito for a short period of time 1 may assume he has run into more issues with Law again. Perhaps another unpaid fine or a probation violation has his undivided attention at the moment.

Back to the OP's question you will not see a rule such as you suggest on this and many other sites and if 1 is written it will not be enforced or selectively enforced sadly.

[NEW XTC]

a known scammer - whokemosabe - comes in here and quotes a known pirate - scrolldog -

[Klen]

Probably not gonna happen,especially these days where what normally would cause people insta banned,they just edit their bad posts.But that is paradox of this board-if we go to piracy board,we'll end banned.If we go to religion board,we'll end banned.But if they come here,nothing happens.

[NEW XTC]

Originally Posted by whOaKemosabe

what about users linked to CP like adult king?

AK is 10 times the man you are Butler

[NEW XTC]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Probably not gonna happen,especially these days where what normally would cause people insta banned,they just edit their bad posts.But that is paradox of this board-if we go to piracy board,we'll end banned.If we go to religion board,we'll end banned.But if they come here,nothing happens.

probably not gunna happen...true...unless enough of us are fed up with piracy and get together and start fighting it...GFY mods could help big time...we all know piracy has cut into the AVN bottom line enormously - yet they let pirates run wild on their forum?

[Captain Kawaii]

Change what?

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1133463

[signupdamnit]

I'm for banning people making pro-piracy remarks but let's be real here. The owners let pirates give the keynote speeches. They let the pirates skin the board for fucks sake. In fact some question whether the board is secretly owned by pirates. It's not going to happen.

Even then realize that 90% of the top 20 companies in adult probably do 50%+ of their business with pirates. Why do you think the industry has been in a downturn? It's no coincidence. Unfortunately most of the owners of these organizations have degrees in hookers and blow rather than business.

[NEW XTC]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

I'm for banning people making pro-piracy remarks but let's be real here. The owners let pirates give the keynote speeches. They let the pirates skin the board for fucks sake. In fact some question whether the board is secretly owned by pirates. It's not going to happen.

Even then realize that 90% of the top 20 companies in adult probably do 50%+ of their business with pirates. Why do you think the industry has been in a downturn? It's no coincidence. Unfortunately most of the owners of these organizations have degrees in hookers and blow rather than business.

thanks for your vote but this is BS - 90% of the top 20 companies in adult probably do 50%+ of their business with pirates.

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by NEW XTC

thanks for your vote but this is BS - 90% of the top 20 companies in adult probably do 50%+ of their business with pirates.

Tubes. On another forum one popular affiliate program claimed 90% of their busienss comes from the major tubes. The difference between a tube and a file locker is mainly the presentation. Some are better than others in that they handle DMCAs but many of them play games like banning people who make DMCA claims or re-posting material taken down under another account.

Any major tube without a repeat infringer policy with teeth is basically a pirate in a suit.

[NEW XTC]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Tubes. On another forum one popular affiliate program claimed 90% of their busienss comes from the major tubes. The difference between a tube and a file locker is mainly the presentation. Some are better than others in that they handle DMCAs but many of them play games like banning people who make DMCA claims or re-posting material taken down under another account.

Any major tube without a repeat infringer policy with teeth is basically a pirate in a suit.

good point - but we can pressure the tubes into compliance - we are in many cases and its working..Why roll over and continue to take it in the ass?

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by NEW XTC

good point - but we can pressure the tubes into compliance - we are in many cases and its working..Why roll over and continue to take it in the ass?

To be honest I've personally left the paysite area of the industry almost completely. I think it's too late barring global law changes. But I applaud anyone who has the balls to try and trudge on. I support you but I'm done banging my head against the wall and generating 200,000 impressions on my sites to make one sale because they can get it all for free elsewhere.

You have a hell of a battle ahead of you because I tell you the truth most of the people at the top are in bed with the pirates. It's been this way for half a decade at least and it only gets worse every year. The difference now is that some of these pirates are collapsing now under their own "success".

[jódete]

the op is a whiny cunt. welcome to the ignore list cunt

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by jódete

the op is a whiny cunt. welcome to the ignore list cunt

At least he's not ginger, eh Killswitch?

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by NEW XTC

This is the forum "Where the industry meets" right?

Well maybe it's time "The Industry" no longer includes pirates and posters that make overtly pro-piracy remarks.

Anyone with me on this?

the industry hasn't been meeting here for years now.

trolls and beer money kids meet here.

[NEW XTC]

Originally Posted by jódete

the op is a whiny cunt. welcome to the ignore list cunt

[/IMG]

thank you - maybe now you will stop trolling my posts with pro-piracy remarks.

You would be the first to be banned if these new rules were enacted.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by NEW XTC

You would be the first to be banned if these new rules were enacted.

He's already been banned multiple times.

[Tdash]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

the industry hasn't been meeting here for years now.

trolls and beer money kids meet here.

Business still good?

[mineistaken]

You should have made it public poll so we could see who voted "no change"...

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

I'm for banning people making pro-piracy remarks but let's be real here. The owners let pirates give the keynote speeches. They let the pirates skin the board for fucks sake. In fact some question whether the board is secretly owned by pirates. It's not going to happen.

Even then realize that 90% of the top 20 companies in adult probably do 50%+ of their business with pirates. Why do you think the industry has been in a downturn? It's no coincidence. Unfortunately most of the owners of these organizations have degrees in hookers and blow rather than business.

Well said, GFY is sold out to pirates.

[adultmobile]

This thread is a trap for banned fakenicks

[NEW XTC]

12 to 9 in favor of pirate bans... lookin good

[nikki99]

voted...........

[NEW XTC]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

You should have made it public poll so we could see who voted "no change"...

oops good point

[NukePiracy]

Originally Posted by WDF

Considering Scrolldog is financed/operated by 1 of the File Locker owners AK has been all over makes it less then credible.

When you add that scrolldog himself has been convicted of both criminal copyright infringement and continues to be directly involved in selling premium/vip accounts on file sharing forum. Add to that his conviction for sexual offenses involving a minor and you begin to question anything posted there.

He actively attacks anyone involved in disrupting the File Locker/Online Digital Piracy Eco-system, myself and the company I work for included, we are direct threats to his wallet/bank account and his freedom.

Being he has been incognito for a short period of time 1 may assume he has run into more issues with Law again. Perhaps another unpaid fine or a probation violation has his undivided attention at the moment.

Update to this, ScrollDog/Richard J Humphrey/To0 is in prison now for violations to his parole, as of now this is speculation but it appears to be related to his offenses against a minor.

More info here: cashwhore.net/richard-j-humprey-now-in-jail/

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Tdash

Business still good?

Business is great. Which scammer who was banned here at least once before might you be?

[jódete]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

At least he's not ginger, eh Killswitch?

ginger rogers ???? ginger grant from gilligans island ???? ginger snaps snacks ???? or ginger spice ???? were u once a girl damian , ya got that soft as fuck skin makes me wanna ram my cock up your ass , wadda ya say tranny ????

[NEW XTC]

Originally Posted by jódete

ginger rogers ???? ginger grant from gilligans island ???? ginger snaps snacks ???? or ginger spice ???? were u once a girl damian , ya got that soft as fuck skin makes me wanna ram my cock up your ass , wadda ya say tranny ????

sounds pretty threatening - especially since you put your real identity out there and go to shows....killswitch is itching for a ban for life.

[NEW XTC]

13 Pirates on the ship...

Bump for more votes

[topnotch, standup guy]

Originally Posted by NEW XTC

sounds pretty threatening - especially since you put your real identity out there and go to shows....killswitch is itching for a ban for life.

killswitch/jódete is about as threatening as a purse dog

I wouldn't mind seeing him banned again though.
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[EddyTheDog]

I hope that myself, the mods and others can work out who the scum are and don't need 'NEW XTC' to police GFY on our behalf...

I have been doing it without your help for well over a decade - Thanks any way.....

[NEW XTC]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I hope that myself, the mods and others can work out who the scum are and don't need 'NEW XTC' to police GFY on our behalf...

I have been doing it without your help for well over a decade - Thanks any way.....

You have been doing what exactly for over a decade? What you and the Mods certainly have NOT been doing is working out "who the scum are" - maybe you're one of the guys on the receiving end of one of the hundreds (thousands actually) of DMCA's me and my piracy firms sends out and that's why you don't like this thread?

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by NEW XTC

You have been doing what exactly for over a decade? What you and the Mods certainly have NOT been doing is working out "who the scum are" - maybe you're one of the guys on the receiving end of one of the hundreds (thousands actually) of DMCA's me and my piracy firms sends out and that's why you don't like this thread?

The thread is fine - I am happy some guys are fighting the good fight...

However GFY is policed well enough - We have good and bad - I want to meet the bad, I meet them off line and I am capable of making my own mind up and dealing with them myself...

I don't need a babysitter - Thanks anyway...

[NEW XTC]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

The thread is fine - I am happy some guys are fighting the good fight...

However GFY is policed well enough - We have good and bad - I want to meet the bad, I meet them off line and I am capable of making my own mind up and dealing with them myself...

I don't need a babysitter - Thanks anyway...

You sounds like a smart and reasonable dude - but calling me out as "police" and "babysitter" just makes you look like a whiner. And your "thanks anyway" comment makes you seem like a snarky little brat. And pro-piracy to boot.

You say you've been in the biz for a decade well I more than double your experience - and what I'm seeing lately in piracy is very new, and very insidious. Just out in the open organized pirate packaging of entire libraries from content producers such as myself - you may say that's been happening for a long time - yes in some cases it has, what's new is the out-in-the-open mass infringement and pirates operating with seeming impunity and feeling no need to even cover their tracks. What's new is that pirates have been able to operated undisturbed for so long that they actually feel victimized by people like me who track down their real names and home address' and go far beyond what weak pathetic DMCA can do... some of these pirates have forgotten that they are doing anything wrong.

Well I don't have to stand for it, not here - don't let my low post count fool you into thinking I'm some newb.

Your bitchy immature moaning about my "policing" tells us one thing about you...yes in fact maybe you do need a baby sitter.

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by NEW XTC

You sounds like a smart and reasonable dude - but calling me out as "police" and "babysitter" just makes you look like a whiner. And your "thanks anyway" comment makes you seem like a snarky little brat. And pro-piracy to boot.

You say you've been in the biz for a decade well I more than double your experience - and what I'm seeing lately in piracy is very new, and very insidious. Just out in the open organized pirate packaging of entire libraries from content producers such as myself - you may say that's been happening for a long time - yes in some cases it has, what's new is the out-in-the-open mass infringement and pirates operating with seeming impunity and feeling no need to even cover their tracks. What's new is that pirates have been able to operated undisturbed for so long that they actually feel victimized by people like me who track down their real names and home address' and go far beyond what weak pathetic DMCA can do... some of these pirates have forgotten that they are doing anything wrong.

Well I don't have to stand for it, not here - don't let my low post count fool you into thinking I'm some newb.

Your bitchy immature moaning about my "policing" tells us one thing about you...yes in fact maybe you do need a baby sitter.

I got to the last line thinking I would apologize for the last line of my post...

I hate it when people do that to me, so sorry.....

You also might like to see some of my previous rants re: piracy - Defiantly not pro...

Anyway - Please tell us who the pirates are - You are performing a service - However I want to see and hear them - Banning them from GFY serves no purpose other than feeding some over inflated egos.....

[Roald]

I'd say no rule change, not going to happen anyways.

[WDF]

I hate to see 2 guys with similar views on a subject butting heads (no innuendo intended).

But don't be butt heads and self-destruct the thread. J/K

MmmKay

LOL!

Peace????!!!!

[NEW XTC]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I got to the last line thinking I would apologize for the last line of my post...

I hate it when people do that to me, so sorry.....

You also might like to see some of my previous rants re: piracy - Defiantly not pro...

Anyway - Please tell us who the pirates are - You are performing a service - However I want to see and hear them - Banning them from GFY serves no purpose other than feeding some over inflated egos.....

I would LOVE to blast some real names and address' of these scum on here ala Harmon...but for me it's chess not checkers

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by NEW XTC

I would LOVE to blast some real names and address' of these scum on here ala Harmon...but for me it's chess not checkers

OK Carry on - Just remember - keep your friends close but your enemies closer - I like to know what they are thinking...

[NEW XTC]

Originally Posted by Roald

I'd say no rule change, not going to happen anyways.

good for you - you moved on from Freeones - which more than any pirate site is responsible for the wholesale destruction of the solo site biz...not that you guys did anything wrong, you played by the rules - it's just that the rules are skewed in the affiliate biz such that super-affiliates like Freeones can eat their young like Hamsters.

I've seen models cry when I showed them their Freeones page, when they realize they have no shot at making a living with their own site because everything they have ever done is aggregated on one site, hard, soft - twitter - real name facebook for their parents to see (due to your prime SEO)..even some pirate links thrown in there to boot (inadvertent I'm sure)...but yea you WOULD say no rule change - the rules worked great in your favor, just like Wall Mart, Freeones helped kill the mom and pop solo affiliates as sure as any pirates ever could.

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by NEW XTC

good for you - you moved on from Freeones - which more than any pirate site is responsible for the wholesale destruction of the solo site biz...not that you guys did anything wrong, you played by the rules - it's just that the rules are skewed in the affiliate biz such that super-affiliates like Freeones can eat their young like Hamsters.

I've seen models cry when I showed them their Freeones page, when they realize they have no shot at making a living with their own site because everything they have ever done is aggregated on one site, hard, soft - twitter - real name facebook for their parents to see (due to your prime SEO)..even some pirate links thrown in there to boot (inadvertent I'm sure)...but yea you WOULD say no rule change - the rules worked great in your favor, just like Wall Mart, Freeones helped kill the mom and pop solo affiliates as sure as any pirates ever could.

I was wondering before - It turns out you are just a fucking moron as I suspected - Please fuck off...

[Roald]

Originally Posted by NEW XTC

good for you - you moved on from Freeones - which more than any pirate site is responsible for the wholesale destruction of the solo site biz...not that you guys did anything wrong, you played by the rules - it's just that the rules are skewed in the affiliate biz such that super-affiliates like Freeones can eat their young like Hamsters.

I've seen models cry when I showed them their Freeones page, when they realize they have no shot at making a living with their own site because everything they have ever done is aggregated on one site, hard, soft - twitter - real name facebook for their parents to see (due to your prime SEO)..even some pirate links thrown in there to boot (inadvertent I'm sure)...but yea you WOULD say no rule change - the rules worked great in your favor, just like Wall Mart, Freeones helped kill the mom and pop solo affiliates as sure as any pirates ever could.

That didnt take long

Models cry huh, i've seen many cry from joy when we pushed them on the main page generating a ton of sales for them. But thats another debate ;)

Reason I say no rule change is that I prefer to see what people are doing rather than ban them and ignore their existence. Like said above, keep you enemies closer

[NEW XTC]

Originally Posted by Roald

That didnt take long

Models cry huh, i've seen many cry from joy when we pushed them on the main page generating a ton of sales for them. But thats another debate ;)

Reason I say no rule change is that I prefer to see what people are doing rather than ban them and ignore their existence. Like said above, keep you enemies closer

There is no debate - we don't disagree on how much traffic you can push. But yes models have cried and that's factual, especially when their real names are cross referenced as AKA - for each model you have sent mass traffic to (very few of those are actually partners in their solo site) how many have not even had a chance to get a site of their own due to too many freeones links - as a solo model scout since the early days thats always been the main criteria "How much free promo content is on freeones" that is the litmus test for if a model can make money with a site.

Like I said you guys did nothing wrong - too much free explicit promo content ruined the solo site biz - you guys just mopped up the wreckage and profited the best from it. No harm no foul, but spare me the self-pat on your back.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by NEW XTC

There is no debate - we don't disagree on how much traffic you can push. But yes models have cried and that's factual, especially when their real names are cross referenced as AKA - for each model you have sent mass traffic to (very few of those are actually partners in their solo site) how many have not even had a chance to get a site of their own due to too many freeones links - as a solo model scout since the early days thats always been the main criteria "How much free promo content is on freeones" that is the litmus test for if a model can make money with a site.

Like I said you guys did nothing wrong - too much free explicit promo content ruined the solo site biz - you guys just mopped up the wreckage and profited the best from it. No harm no foul, but spare me the self-pat on your back.

There is no self pat really, I just don't agree with you. I do fully agree on the real name part though, that's something the owner thought was a good idea. We as a team were able to get that out eventually, again no self pat.

carry on.