we should give texas back to mexico

[Joshua G]

seriously.

every problem in the USA starts with texas. the obsession with christ is denying rights to women & gays. the last texas radical christian president hyped us into needless war & is responsible for as much bloodshed as histories massest murderers. the gun lobby ideology that arms spree shooters starts in texas. They dont even have a fucking building code, you can build a rocketship in your backyard no problemo. they still have "dry" counties, what year is this?

other than that, love the state.

[mineistaken]

texas is tight, not cool for liberal hipsters though

[dyna mo]

you sound like euros and canadians who don't understand guns in America, so they try to change us instead of embracing us as their quirky kick ass uncle with a 4x4 and gun rack.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you sound like euros and canadians.

Or - sounds like a leftist/libtist/hipstist

[Sly]

The good news for you is many Texans would be very happy to secede. Though Texans don't realize they need the United States and the United States doesn't realize they need Texas.

We all preach about "accepting" others, until the "other" doesn't agree with us. ;-)

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

texas is tight, not cool for liberal hipsters though

what about austin?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

what about austin?

Also cool. Although when liberal kind bash Texas along the lines of OP they do not mean Austin.

[SmutHammer]

Rather get rid of Ny. and most of the north eastern area's.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you sound like euros and canadians who don't understand guns in America, so they try to change us instead of embracing us as their quirky kick ass uncle with a 4x4 and gun rack.

i myself believe we should either ban guns, or legalize machine guns. this middle ground is the worst of both worlds. for if we really are gonna be a gun culture, i wanna carry an uzi.

[dyna mo]

Austin is hardly liberal. It's the fucking state capital! I lived there for years. Before that an ex went to UT, shit tons of rednecks in Austin.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

texas is tight, not cool for liberal hipsters though

The Capitol of Texas is very liberal and Hip.. Just hoot as fuck in the summer..

[jimmycooper]

FYI - Houston is the most populous U.S. city to elect an openly gay mayor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annise_Parker

People forget that Texas has long, storied history of progressive politics. LBJ and Ann Richards are probably my two favorite politicians of all time.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Austin is hardly liberal. It's the fucking state capital! I lived there for years. Before that an ex went to UT, shit tons of rednecks in Austin.

Yes but there is also lots of hippies and cool people whom aren't brain dead rednecks.

[dyna mo]

What's hip about Austin?

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Austin is hardly liberal.

but they have google fiber. isnt there a ghetto of hipsters?

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Austin is hardly liberal. It's the fucking state capital! I lived there for years. Before that an ex went to UT, shit tons of rednecks in Austin.

It's still considered to be pretty liberal. I went to UT and have been back many times. When were you there?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

Yes but there is also lots of hippies and cool people whom aren't brain dead rednecks.

Hippies and cool people are worse than Austin rednecks.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

What's hip about Austin?

SXSW, UT, tech industry (silicon hills), ACL

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

It's still considered to be pretty liberal. I went to UT and have been back many times. When were you there?

My ex graduated from there in 92, I lived in Houston during those years. Then I relocated there with an internet startup from 1998-2002. My parents lived there for a number of years as well.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

My ex graduated from there in 92, I lived in Houston during those years. Then I relocated there with an internet startup from 1998-2002. My parents lived there for a number of years as well.

cool. what part of town? where did you hang out?

I went to school there from 94-98. Went to HS in Houston after moving there from the Bay Area.

[dyna mo]

*maybe* lake Travis is cool. But only of you have a boat.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

*maybe* lake Travis is cool. But only of you have a boat.

Spent many days in the "Hippy Hollow" section of Lake Travis.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

cool. what part of town? where did you hang out?

I went to school there from 94-98. Went to HS in Houston after moving there from the Bay Area.

Hah, I went to college in the bay area after going to school in Houston! Well, Pasadena actually, graduated hs in 82 then off to CAL later, graduated there in 96.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Spent many days in the "Hippy Hollow" section of Lake Travis.

Were you the guy who masturbated standing up there? ÷

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

*maybe* lake Travis is cool. But only of you have a boat.

haha! yeah, it can be fun..

video here kinda sucks, but the song is so fitting!



I also really enjoyed camel's hole. Great place to eat mushrooms.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Hah, I went to college in the bay area after going to school in Houston! Well, Pasadena actually, graduated hs in 82 then off to CAL later, graduated there in 96.

cool. where'd you go to hs? I went to St. Thomas.

[DonJon69]

I think we should adopt sharia law.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

What's hip about Austin?

It's not the rest of Texas.. Example.. Name another city in Texas which has as many parks as Austin.. Let's not even get into the nudist state park at hippie hollow or the topless swiming hole at Barton Springs..

Also Austin City Limits is the longest lasting weekly live music show. It's almost never redneck shit, but rather rock, alternative and so on.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

cool. what part of town? where did you hang out?

I went to school there from 94-98. Went to HS in Houston after moving there from the Bay Area.

Where did we hang out in Austin? She over in those rail yard apartments kinda close to campus but closer to 6th st, so we went there a lot. I can't remember the names of the joints, all were super gun and we saw some killer bands. Killer. My favorite restaurant was that one that was like a trailer park, do know which one that is? Delicious. Barton springs road. And of course killer BBQ, county line, salt something. Mmmmmm

[jimmycooper]

damn just found out my favorite Austin bar closed in 2013. Bummer.

Club de Ville Closes: Red River venue falls behind in rent - Music - The Austin Chronicle

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Were you the guy who masturbated standing up there? ÷

Yup - he jerks off standing up and pisses sitting down. Go figure.

The "problem" with Texas is that Texas feels as if Texas is its' own country (which it was and technically still is) and can do whatever the fuck it wants regardless of how the rest of America feels about it. Which is fine (Californians, New Yorkers and Floridians feel the same way) but it becomes a problem when it comes to annoying little things like the economy, international relations, war and human rights. Oh, and oil. And Mexicans. And drugs. And determining what goes in (and what stays out of) textbooks the rest of America uses to teach their non-Texan tykes.

But hey, Go Cowboys ("America's" team)!

PS: Austin is jam-packed with cool music, amazing eats and awesome people. Austin is so cool it should be in New Mexico.

[MiamiBoyz]

Fuck Texas AND Florida while we are at it!

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

It's not the rest of Texas.. Example.. Name another city in Texas which has as many parks as Austin.. Let's not even get into the nudist state park at hippie hollow or the topless swiming hole at Barton Springs..

Oh I know. Austin is much better than any other city in Texas that I lived in. But it ain't liberal. I watched plenty of hate fueled shit go down on 6th street. That's morein line with where I'm coming from. There ate hip and fun hangouts there, Barton springs is incredible. But I never found it to be a liberal city.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Were you the guy who masturbated standing up there? ÷

Lol, nope. Pretty cool nude area. Wonder how the draught has affected that area.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Where did we hang out in Austin? She over in those rail yard apartments kinda close to campus but closer to 6th st, so we went there a lot. I can't remember the names of the joints, all were super gun and we saw some killer bands. Killer. My favorite restaurant was that one that was like a trailer park, do know which one that is? Delicious. Barton springs road. And of course killer BBQ, county line, salt something. Mmmmmm

Are you talking about Threadgills?

Threadgill's

salt licks is the bbq place you're talking about...

https://www.saltlickbbq.com/

Stubbs on Red River is another great BBQ place.

Stubb's BBQ

I had an advertising internship at the Austin Chronicle during my junior year so I was always really well taken care of when it came to getting free tickets to pretty much anything.

I used to like going back for SXSW but now it seems a bit to hectic. Total pain in the ass. Have definitely seem some great shows there over the years though.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Lol, nope. Pretty cool nude area. Wonder how the draught has affected that area.

sorry, that was a stupid joke.

i bet it's nice now, after those storms. we could never find a cozy spot there when we went.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Are you talking about Threadgills?

Threadgill's

salt licks is the bbq place you're talking about...

https://www.saltlickbbq.com/

Stubbs on Red River is another great BBQ place.

Stubb's BBQ

I had an advertising internship at the Austin Chronicle during my junior year so I was always really well taken care of when it came to getting free tickets to pretty much anything.

I used to like going back for SXSW but now it seems a bit to hectic. Total pain in the ass. Have definitely seem some great shows there over the years though.

i had to google, it's the Shady Grove. still getting solid reviews. The Shady Grove

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Oh I know. Austin is much better than any other city in Texas that I lived in. But it ain't liberal. I watched plenty of hate fueled shit go down on 6th street. That's morein line with where I'm coming from. There ate hip and fun hangouts there, Barton springs is incredible. But I never found it to be a liberal city.

6th street is pretty much for freshman/sophomores, out-of-towners, and other less-desirables. Total ghetto. 4th St. is pretty liberal as is Red River, East 6th, South Congress. Rainey St. is another cool area. Kind of like an Austin version of Tribeca.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

6th street is pretty much for freshman/sophomores, out-of-towners, and other less-desirables. Total ghetto. 4th St. is pretty liberal as is Red River, East 6th, South Congress. Rainey St. is another cool area. Kind of like an Austin version of Tribeca.

when i first moved there in 1998, i had a big ole harley. i had noticed the guy across the street had one so one day i figured i'd walk over there and see about riding, as i was walking over, he was walking to his garage, opened the garage door and hanging on the back wall of the garage was a HUGE confederate flag. i just turned right around and didn't look back. Nevertheless, over the next several years I logged 10000s of miles riding around that area, meeting/not-meeting people, eating great food, stepping in dog shit, whateve, many varied experiences, but i just don't remember anything liberal as a current or theme or tone there. and I'm from the South, my parents are from the deep South. I was raised in Pasadena, so anything liberal is noticeable to me and even more so then.

i'm not saying you are wrong, but i am saying in my experience i didn't find Austin liberal .

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i had to google, it's the Shady Grove. still getting solid reviews. The Shady Grove

great place!

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

so anything liberal is noticeable to me and even more so then.

Would be interesting to hear some examples, what are these liberal things you notice? Or are you just talking about noticing when someone speaks liberal?

[EliteWebmaster]

Nothing wrong with Texas, real presidents come from Texas. It's the rest of the states that have a problem. States like that cesspool NY are the ones that need to go.

Like the famous line- Don't mess with Texas

[dyna mo]

so here's where i'm coming from re: austin being highlighted as the liberal oasis of Texas. it implies and suggests strongly that the rest of the state is conservative.

and that is just not true.

i did some more googling, and sure enough, some signficant research points to Austin being the 13th most liberal big city in America, scoring -1 on the chart. but here's the thing-

the other big cities in Texas scored neutral in the results. they are not liberal, but they are not conservative either.

Urban ideologies | The Economist

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Would be interesting to hear some examples, what are these liberal things you notice? Or are you just talking about noticing when someone speaks liberal?

liberal local government policies, doing real things to help the homeless, to help lost pets, for instance. also, and more importantly, the real locals. chitty chat, idle comments. sure there are quirky people there, shit, a friend there had like 30 piercings on his nutsack alone. he was an austin trust fund baby, i banged his niece,

nevertheless, there were 5x as many rednecks there who would beat the shit out of him for it too.

[TheSquealer]

One of the most, if not the most successful/stable economies in the USA in terms of consistent growth, should be given to a Narco-State with which the US shares a border with.

Makes sense. Someone clearly has a great of macro economics, state security, national security, crime, drug smuggling. human trafficking and so on....

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

when i first moved there in 1998, i had a big ole harley. i had noticed the guy across the street had one so one day i figured i'd walk over there and see about riding, as i was walking over, he was walking to his garage, opened the garage door and hanging on the back wall of the garage was a HUGE confederate flag. i just turned right around and didn't look back. Nevertheless, over the next several years I logged 10000s of miles riding around that area, meeting/not-meeting people, eating great food, stepping in dog shit, whateve, many varied experiences, but i just don't remember anything liberal as a current or theme or tone there. and I'm from the South, my parents are from the deep South. I was raised in Pasadena, so anything liberal is noticeable to me and even more so then.

i'm not saying you are wrong, but i am saying in my experience i didn't find Austin liberal .

No, you're right. There are a lot of people like that in Austin. But the city is still liberal relative to the rest of Texas. For instance, UT always gets compared to Texas A&M. Relative to A&M, UT is very liberal just as Austin is very liberal when compared to college station. But when you compare UT to like Berkeley or NYU, it seems relatively conservative in comparison.

Then when you consider that pretty much the entire area in pink on this map is considered to be the Texas bible belt (ie, dry counties etc.), Austin seems even more liberal.



Top industry in Austin is tech. Top industries in both Houston and, at least historically,in Dallas have been oil and gas.

Also, being considered a liberal in Texas is a lot different than being considered a liberal in like Boston, NYC, LA, SF, etc. For instance, I consider myself to be a moderate democrat. In Texas, I'm considered to be very liberal yet here in NYC, I'm practically a Republican and as a matter of fact I actually did vote for Bloomberg 3 times.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

so here's where i'm coming from re: austin being highlighted as the liberal oasis of Texas. it implies and suggests strongly that the rest of the state is conservative.

and that is just not true.

i did some more googling, and sure enough, some signficant research points to Austin being the 13th most liberal big city in America, scoring -1 on the chart. but here's the thing-

the other big cities in Texas scored neutral in the results. they are not liberal, but they are not conservative either.

Urban ideologies | The Economist

All it takes is a mere glance at the demographics of those other big cities to see why they skew liberal.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

No, you're right. There are a lot of people like that in Austin. But the city is still liberal relative to the rest of Texas. For instance, UT always gets compared to Texas A&M. Relative to A&M, UT is very liberal just as Austin is very liberal when compared to college station. But when you compare UT to like Berkeley or NYU, it seems relatively conservative in comparison.

Then when you consider that pretty much the entire area in pink on this map is considered to be the Texas bible belt (ie, dry counties etc.), Austin seems even more liberal.



Top industry in Austin is tech. Top industries in both Houston and, at least historically,in Dallas have been oil and gas.

Also, being considered a liberal in Texas is a lot different than being considered a liberal in like Boston, NYC, LA, SF, etc. For instance, I consider myself to be a moderate democrat. In Texas, I'm considered to be very liberal yet here in NYC, I'm practically a Republican and as a matter of fact I actually did vote for Bloomberg 3 times.

your move to east coast looks like my moving from pasadena, tx to san francisco! that same gal at UT thati was running with, went on to Hastings law, we moved, i worked and she went to school and the bar, then i went to school.

that move was an eye opener.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

All it takes is a mere glance at the demographics of those other big cities to see why they skew liberal.

no shit right! i was stunned a while back to learn that San Antonio exploded in population. wow! i've got most all my family back in Texas now, on account of the o&g boom. i still not going back. it's hot there. hot like louisiana hot. fuck!

[The Porn Nerd]

This is called the Texas Two-Step......