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Rochard · 05-27-2014, 08:20 AM

The area I grow up in was "varied", the high school even more so. We had seven local school districts pouring into one high school with about a thousand kids. Of the districts was from the richest township in the state, while others were from the bottom of the barrel. It was interesting. Most of us had cars in high school, although I don't remember anyone having a brand new BMW or Mercedes. Then again, when I was in high school, BMW and Mercedes wasn't really on our radar - only a doctor would drive such a car.

We had one death in our high school. In fact, she was the first girl I ever danced with at a high school dance. Her car went off a cliff not too far from my house. It was a dangerous stretch of road really.

Then again, I came from a pretty boring area of New Jersey.

As for the chick Mutt is talking about, she clearly wanted to think she was living dangerously but never could follow through on doing anything. She takes some sexy photos for Facebook, lists herself on MM, and then calls herself a model.

As for her friends, well, they want to live dangerously too. Mommy and daddy supply them with cars and pay their rent while they go to college, which really means all they do is drink and do drugs.

Sad really.

Choopa_Pardo · 05-27-2014, 09:35 AM

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That rarely worked for me. I began getting way hotter and more frequent sex after:

I discovered that speaking to her like she is your little sister works best. Tease her, make fun of her like a jerk older brother would do.

Show her friends and rivals respect. Make her think you barely notice her.

Never take her to dinner, just make plans for 10 pm and after and you don't have to worry about it. Woman dump on guys who take them to dinner.

Repeat often with several women to hone your skills.

I've never been dumped on for taking a woman to dinner, and I do just fine for myself.

I was speaking in general terms here. My point was, if you act like a rational human you can meet women quite easily. Spend less time acting like you're the world's punching bag and more time being social and making an effort to meet people and everything will work out in your favor. This little shitbag spent his time feeling bad for himself.

TCLGirls · 05-27-2014, 09:37 AM

So this guy was partially home schooled...surprise surprise.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-27-2014, 09:51 AM

A victim's Father speaks:

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Richard Martinez?s 20-year-old son, Christopher Ross Michaels-Martinez, was one of six people killed in Friday?s rampage in Santa Barbara, California. Richard Martinez addressed ABC News and other media outlets on Sunday. Read his full statement in his own words below on the loss of his son and on gun violence in America.

First, we wish the other families who lost their loved ones could be here today, including the Rodgers family. We all lost people we loved on Friday night. Christopher Ross Michaels-Martinez was born December 23, 1993 in San Luis Abisbo, California. His mother, Karen Michaels who's here today, was so tired after 18 hours of labor, was falling asleep between contractions. Karen was 44 years old.

He was our only child and he died Friday night. This morning I asked Christopher's grandmother what she would say if she could be here and she said, ?Chris was the most wonderful boy in the world, yes he was.? His cousin Jamie's here and loved Christopher very much and Christopher loved him like a brother and if he could say a couple words about Chris. ...

Cousin Jamie Interlude: I?d just like to say that Chris was the most compassionate and gifted person and our family is devastated by this loss.

We appreciate Mr. Rodger's statement that he wanted to dedicate his life to making sure that this doesn't happen again and that's something that we share. He's a father and I'm a father. We both lost sons that we loved.

The gun lobby will no doubt characterize my statement yesterday at the police station as the rantings of a grief-stricken parent. Hannah Arendt in her book on violence points out that it's a bullsh*t argument. She observed that people can be both rational and emotional at the same time. Because I'm emotional, it doesn't mean that what I say is irrational. Nobody needs to own three semi-automatic handguns. It doesn't make sense. We don't let people have nuclear bombs in their basements. Why? Because it's too dangerous.

We don't think there's a magic cure for the problem of gun violence in America. The solution to the problem of gun violence in America, will take a lot of people working on different aspects of the problem: mental health, violence and the intimidation of women. Our son was killed, but we haven't lost sight of the fact that the shooter's anger was directed at young women. What happened has become another shameful part of a history of violence against women and needs to be addressed.

When people talk about their rights, they don?t talk about the responsibilities. They don't talk about the responsibility to look out for other people. We all need to look out for each other's children.

David Cullen, who researched and wrote about the Columbine tragedy, has suggested two solutions to this kind of violence. First, drastically limit the use of the killer?s name. Second, don't show the killer's face and videos. Using the killer's name and image plays into the killer's desires and encourages others to seek the same kind of attention.

We need to understand why Chris died, so that we can do something about it, but the media needs to understand ...The media needs to do their job in a way that doesn't give angry people who are thinking about violence what they want.

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xNetworx · 05-27-2014, 10:08 AM

Mutt is now the definition of a creeper

SilentKnight · 05-27-2014, 03:32 PM

I read the manifesto from start to finish in an afternoon marathon.

What surprised me was the amount of minute detail he poured out about his life. The kid had to have been keeping some sort of constant diary or journal as he grew up. I can't believe he just rattled all this stuff off from the top of his head.

I'd be hard-pressed to recall what I did a few weeks ago - let alone the intricate details of my entire past life. This kid had detailed memories of who taught him to play on a swing-set at age five?!

But I agree with you Mutt about the empathy...at least until it was obvious he'd gone off the rails. But we have to remember - he wrote this from HIS subjective perspective. It would be interesting to hear the alternate versions from friends and family that had to deal with him.

I got the feeling that he had fairly decent parents who eventually ran out of time, patience or methods of dealing with him - and perhaps left him to his own devices in the hopes he would somehow self-correct (which obviously didn't happen).

teomaxxx · 05-27-2014, 11:37 PM

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www.puahate.com is a forum he posted on, it's been down for 2 days.

No surprise at all.
Probably, he was at first client of all those Pick-up gurus and forums, then when it didnt work for him, he went to Puahate.

http://scallywagandvagabond.com/2014...p-artist-site/

add some psycho problems in his head and you have an explosive mix.

Mutt · 05-27-2014, 11:57 PM

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Mutt is now the definition of a creeper

You're one of those 'obnoxious brutes' who gets all the pretty girls!

Another GFY failure who had to slink back on here with a new nickname. For anybody who thinks all Jews are smart and successful - I present CamBoss as evidence otherwise.

A cam studio pimp calling somebody else a creeper.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-27-2014, 11:58 PM

Richard Martinez, a father of one of the victims, delivered a powerful speech at the UCSB Memorial today:

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This must be the high note of today's memorial service for victims of the rampage on May 23. Emotional, yet empowering.

13:30 Yesterday I got a phone call from a Congressperson who expressed her condolences. And I told that person, I wasn't interested in taking a phone call that expresses her condolences and sadness about what happened to Chris -- that was the next step -- until that person went back to Congress and actually did something. They've done nothing and that's why Chris died.... How many more people will have to die in this situation before the problem gets solved? It has become a normal thing for us to accept this. It's not normal... life doesn't have to be like this.

14:45 And so I'm now asking you to do something... I'm going to ask you to shout words, "not one more!"... I want it to be so loud that you can hear it in Washington DC.

16:50 (Crowd shouts) NOT ONE MORE!

17:40 If you agree that Washington should hear that not one more person should have to die because of this ridiculous situation, then when I raise my hand I want you to shout so loud that they will hear you.

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Mutt · 05-28-2014, 12:12 AM

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What surprised me was the amount of minute detail he poured out about his life. The kid had to have been keeping some sort of constant diary or journal as he grew up. I can't believe he just rattled all this stuff off from the top of his head.

I wondered the same thing. He was a journal writer, he mentions a journal at some point in the manifesto and police took a handwritten journal from his apartment or his mother's home I read.

People who write are the types who observe more than participate and commit things to memory or journals, it's part of being the type of person who becomes a writer rather than say a photographer or doctor. They also embellish their memories, and I bet he did a fair amount of it in that manifesto.

It took me an evening and then a couple hours the next day to read it, it's 110,000 words, about the same length as the average thriller novel, 300 pages or so.

ezgirl · 05-28-2014, 07:41 AM

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I loved reading this, an extremely perspicacious, considered article, that deserves a greater audience. It is disturbing to regularly read about these unhinged kids ? the conclusion always seems to be the same ? but a shame that with all the clues Mutt has highlighted, that they never get tacked and that it is just a wait for the next one to happen.

perspicacious - having or showing an ability to notice and understand things that are difficult or not obvious

xNetworx · 05-28-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

You're one of those 'obnoxious brutes' who gets all the pretty girls!

Another GFY failure who had to slink back on here with a new nickname. For anybody who thinks all Jews are smart and successful - I present CamBoss as evidence otherwise.

A cam studio pimp calling somebody else a creeper.

Why so butthurt? You were stalking teenagers and saying how adorable an underage girl's photos were. Thats as creepy as it gets. You sound like a total pedo. Not saying you are one.

As for my nick change, I sold the program with that site's url for a healthy profit.

Perhaps someday I can be as upstanding as you and hunt down the youngest looking girls possible to obsess over for a couple years before releasing a nifty solo site

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-28-2014, 12:27 PM

Listen to this Father of one of the UCSB shooting victims:

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The NRA has used its political clout to block medical and academic research that would help us understand and end the epidemic of gun violence.

According to ProPublica, ?Since 1996, when a small CDC-funded study on the risks of owning a firearm ignited opposition from Republicans, the CDC?s budget for research on firearms injuries has shrunk to zero.?

Last week, Senator Ed Markey (D-MA) filed a bill that would fund the CDC research. The NRA issued a statement calling Markey?s bill ?unethical? and an ?abuse of taxpayer funds for anti-gun political propaganda under the guise of ?research.??

Although the NRA likes to portray itself as representing grassroots gun owners, only about 4 million of the 90 million American gun owners are NRA members.

The bulk of the NRA?s money comes from gun and ammo manufacturers that donate millions of dollars to further political obstructionism and fear-mongering among a small but vocal minority of gun owners.

The gun makers? profits?and the profits of Walmart (the nation?s largest seller of guns and ammunition) and other retailers?grow when there are few restrictions on the sale and ownership of guns and ammunition.

?There is a lot of profit to be made for all of this sorrow, all of this death, and all of this destruction,? said Dr. Sheldon Teperman, director of trauma surgery at the Jacobi Medical Center in New York City, who routinely deals with gunshot victims and who was interviewed for a video urging people to unload gun companies from their 401k investments.

The gun industry?led by Remington Outdoor, Sturm Ruger, Smith & Wesson and Olin?has profited, even as more Americans die by the products they manufacture and aggressively market. The value of these companies has grown significantly just as the rate of mass shootings has increased.

I wonder if the NRA leadership would change it's tune if it was their sons and daughters being massacred.

It won't surprise me if one of these days a parent of a victim of one of these preventable gun tragedies shows up at an NRA event with some assault weapons, since I can't imagine what it is like to be a parent of one of the kids killed to have to listen to the NRA dishonor the death of their child, by continuing to lobby to block even simple things like background checks:

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Guns are a large part of American culture. Few object to the manufacture and sale of rifles used in hunting, a sport that millions of Americans enjoy relatively safely. But according to a CBS News poll last December, 85 percent of all Americans?including 84 percent of Republicans, 92 percent of Democrats, 81 percent of independents and 84 percent of gun owners?favor a federal law requiring background checks on all potential gun buyers.

Some will point out that Rodger passed background checks and purchased his Glock 34 and SIG Sauers weapons legally. That simply suggests that we should made it much more difficult for people to purchase assault weapons.

In fact, a Rasmussen Reports survey in December revealed that 59 percent of likely US voters think there should be a ban on the purchase of semi-automatic and assault-type weapons. Only 33 percent disagree.

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Jim_Gunn · 05-28-2014, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Listen to this Father of one of the UCSB shooting victims:

I wonder if the NRA leadership would change it's tune if it was their sons and daughters being massacred.

It won't surprise me if one of these days a parent of a victim of one of these preventable gun tragedies shows up at an NRA event with some assault weapons, since I can't imagine what it is like to be a parent of one of the kids killed to have to listen to the NRA dishonor the death of their child, by continuing to lobby to block even simple things like background checks:

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Didn't this dude pass a background check when he purchased his weapons? He didn't have a criminal record, is that correct? So under what system or series of background checks would they have denied him purchasing a firearm, as opposed to any one of the millions of other responsible firearm owners who passed the checks?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-28-2014, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Didn't this dude pass a background check when he purchased his weapons? He didn't have a criminal record, is that correct?

Yes, which was why my post included this quote:

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Some will point out that Rodger passed background checks and purchased his Glock 34 and SIG Sauers weapons legally. That simply suggests that we should made it much more difficult for people to purchase assault weapons.

In fact, a Rasmussen Reports survey in December revealed that 59 percent of likely US voters think there should be a ban on the purchase of semi-automatic and assault-type weapons. Only 33 percent disagree.

At the point when he was reported by a psychiatrist and his parents to the Police, I think that should put him on a watch list at the very least (the rules for gun ownership are too lax currently).

A person can't buy/possess simple fireworks in the County where I reside, but they can quite easily walk into a gun dealer and purchase enough weapons and ammo to wreak total havoc and destroy numerous lives if they were so inclined.

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crockett · 05-28-2014, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Yes, which was why my post included this quote:

At the point when he was reported by a psychiatrist and his parents to the Police, I think that should put him on a watch list at the very least (the rules for gun ownership are too lax currently).

A person can't buy/possess simple fireworks in the County where I reside, but they can quite easily walk into a gun dealer and purchase enough weapons and ammo to wreak total havoc and destroy numerous lives if they were so inclined.

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That's all fine and good, but no background check will do anything about face to face gun sales. It's a uphill battle no matter how you look at it. For every rule you can make to stop it, there will be some way around it.

The problem is you don't want to create a situation where you make criminals out of law abiding people and these sort of mass shootings will never be regulated away unless every gun in the country disappears.

What we should be doing is tossing out all these ridiculous drug crimes that clog up the for profit justice system and put mandatory life with no parole sentences on any felony conviction that a gun or knife was used.

Stop wasting time with non violent offenders doing drug related crimes and start dealing with violent criminals and throwing the book at them. No it wont stop random spree killings but it would certainly put a dent in the bulk of gun/knife related crimes by getting violent criminal off the streets.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-28-2014, 01:47 PM

This thoughts expressed in this video sum up my feelings fairly well...

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dyna mo · 05-28-2014, 01:55 PM

I'm having a hard time withholding comments here, you know me I like to state my views here at teh gfy but the simple fact is as much as I try, I can't put myself in the shoes of anyone involved in the event. Not the victims, not the victim's dad, not the shooter, well, I think I can kinda see wtf there, but not his parents, not the multiple therapists seeing this guy, not the police interviewing him.

That leads me to think this is a completely random event and it's very difficult to legislate random acts. As much as I would like a way to keep guns from people like this, I'd be hard-pressed to change laws based on background checks, if those background checks are psychology based. The science isn't there.

I do think there is value in what crockett stated re: prison reform and I also think there is value in media reform. The media is very responsible here, well, a better way to say that is the media is very irresponsible here.

Jim_Gunn · 05-28-2014, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Yes, which was why my post included this quote:

At the point when he was reported by a psychiatrist and his parents to the Police, I think that should put him on a watch list at the very least (the rules for gun ownership are too lax currently).

A person can't buy/possess simple fireworks in the County where I reside, but they can quite easily walk into a gun dealer and purchase enough weapons and ammo to wreak total havoc and destroy numerous lives if they were so inclined.

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I'm a little unclear what you mean by "reported to the police" by his parents or psychiatrist, assuming that is even true in either case. Are you suggesting that any person who has ever had a police complaint made against them by another person at any time for any reason should have their Second Amendment rights suspended?

I have no problem with background checks for people to purchase guns but there have to be specific rules in place, like for example, anyone who has ever been convicted of a felony cannot purchase a gun or maybe some other particular criteria. You can't just play Monday Morning Quarterback and say in hindsight, "Well, look, this guy was clearly crazy, he shouldn't have been allowed to purchase a gun.", but then not have a system of rules in place that prevents that. It's disingenuous.

crockett · 05-28-2014, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

I'm having a hard time withholding comments here, you know me I like to state my views here at teh gfy but the simple fact is as much as I try, I can't put myself in the shoes of anyone involved in the event. Not the victims, not the victim's dad, not the shooter, well, I think I can kinda see wtf there, but not his parents, not the multiple therapists seeing this guy, not the police interviewing him.

That leads me to think this is a completely random event and it's very difficult to legislate random acts. As much as I would like a way to keep guns from people like this, I'd be hard-pressed to change laws based on background checks, if those background checks are psychology based. The science isn't there.

I do think there is value in what crockett stated re: prison reform and I also think there is value in media reform. The media is very responsible here, well, a better way to say that is the media is very irresponsible here.

Well you can't legislate based on these kind of event because in almost all instances they get the guns legally. However the week prior to his mass killing spree 80 people were killed with guns around the country.

What I'd be interested in, is seeing a break down of each individual gun related death and see them categorized by things like violent crime, lovers quarrel, accident, self defense, random argument, was gun ownership legal or criminal...ect..ect..

It's hard to judge where the problem is, aside people dying, when we just get body count numbers, rather than reasons behind the deaths. For what ever reason no one seems to track that kind of data, at least no one I've seen.

If you know where the gun deaths are coming from, then you better know how to attack the issue.

05-27-2014, 08:20 AM	#51
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 73,202	The area I grow up in was "varied", the high school even more so. We had seven local school districts pouring into one high school with about a thousand kids. Of the districts was from the richest township in the state, while others were from the bottom of the barrel. It was interesting. Most of us had cars in high school, although I don't remember anyone having a brand new BMW or Mercedes. Then again, when I was in high school, BMW and Mercedes wasn't really on our radar - only a doctor would drive such a car. We had one death in our high school. In fact, she was the first girl I ever danced with at a high school dance. Her car went off a cliff not too far from my house. It was a dangerous stretch of road really. Then again, I came from a pretty boring area of New Jersey. As for the chick Mutt is talking about, she clearly wanted to think she was living dangerously but never could follow through on doing anything. She takes some sexy photos for Facebook, lists herself on MM, and then calls herself a model. As for her friends, well, they want to live dangerously too. Mommy and daddy supply them with cars and pay their rent while they go to college, which really means all they do is drink and do drugs. Sad really. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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05-27-2014, 09:37 AM	#53
TCLGirls Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 3,068	So this guy was partially home schooled...surprise surprise.

05-27-2014, 10:08 AM	#55
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	Mutt is now the definition of a creeper

05-27-2014, 03:32 PM	#56
SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	I read the manifesto from start to finish in an afternoon marathon. What surprised me was the amount of minute detail he poured out about his life. The kid had to have been keeping some sort of constant diary or journal as he grew up. I can't believe he just rattled all this stuff off from the top of his head. I'd be hard-pressed to recall what I did a few weeks ago - let alone the intricate details of my entire past life. This kid had detailed memories of who taught him to play on a swing-set at age five?! But I agree with you Mutt about the empathy...at least until it was obvious he'd gone off the rails. But we have to remember - he wrote this from HIS subjective perspective. It would be interesting to hear the alternate versions from friends and family that had to deal with him. I got the feeling that he had fairly decent parents who eventually ran out of time, patience or methods of dealing with him - and perhaps left him to his own devices in the hopes he would somehow self-correct (which obviously didn't happen).

05-28-2014, 01:55 PM	#68
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 64,162	I'm having a hard time withholding comments here, you know me I like to state my views here at teh gfy but the simple fact is as much as I try, I can't put myself in the shoes of anyone involved in the event. Not the victims, not the victim's dad, not the shooter, well, I think I can kinda see wtf there, but not his parents, not the multiple therapists seeing this guy, not the police interviewing him. That leads me to think this is a completely random event and it's very difficult to legislate random acts. As much as I would like a way to keep guns from people like this, I'd be hard-pressed to change laws based on background checks, if those background checks are psychology based. The science isn't there. I do think there is value in what crockett stated re: prison reform and I also think there is value in media reform. The media is very responsible here, well, a better way to say that is the media is very irresponsible here.