Leaked tape has Polish FM comparing ties with US to giving oral sex

[wehateporn]

http://rt.com/news/167740-poland-us-alliance-worthless/

The Polish Foreign Minister believes his country?s alliance with the US is worth nothing and compared his government?s stance to giving oral sex and receiving nothing in return, a Polish magazine said, citing a leaked recording of a private conversation.

Excerpts from the alleged exchange between FM Radoslaw Sikorski and Jacek Rostowski, an MP and former finance minister, were published Sunday by Wprost, which promised a full transcript and audio files later on Monday or Tuesday. The same magazine triggered a political storm in Poland this month by releasing a recording of a conversation between the head of Poland?s central bank and the interior minister, implying a link between the two violating the bank?s independence.

According to Wprost, Sikorski is skeptical about the reliance of Poland, one of the staunchest allies of Washington in Eastern Europe, on American protection.

?The Polish-American alliance is not worth anything. It?s even damaging, because it creates a false sense of security in Poland,? Sikorski allegedly said.

?Complete bullshit,? the tape purportedly records Sikorski as saying. ?We will get a conflict with both Russians and Germans, and we?re going to think that everything is great, because we gave the Americans a blowjob. Suckers. Total suckers.?

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[Rochard]

I'm guessing the United States has more US Planes in Poland than Poland has in the United States.

In fact, it seems the US has 12 planes there plus support staff. We also have planes in Lithuania and it seems the US also patrols Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.

What has Poland done for the US lately? Or ever for that matter.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I'm guessing the United States has more US Planes in Poland than Poland has in the United States.

In fact, it seems the US has 12 planes there plus support staff. We also have planes in Lithuania and it seems the US also patrols Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.

What has Poland done for the US lately? Or ever for that matter.

I think the guy is saying that none of that is going to protect them.
And what he really means is that America is light years away for the WWII mentality under which deals were made.
We are not going into to Poland to defend against some aggression these days.
That's a joke.

This country is a bunch of fat motherfuckers who are trying to get PE banned from the schools.
These people ain't going to Poland unless they are offering free life time hamburgers.

[directfiesta]

Funny ... I would of thought it is more like getting '' butt fucked '' ....

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

We are not going into to Poland to defend against some aggression these days.
That's a joke.

Sure you are - for at least two reasons.
1) Your other allies need Poland and Ukraine as a buffer between Russia and Western Europe.
2) If you don't defend Poland from Russia or any other aggressor for that matter, it sets a bad precedent. All american allies will see they in fact cannot count on the US for support and it will start an arms race.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Rochard

What has Poland done for the US lately? Or ever for that matter.

Ever? Off the top of my head:
- Cracked enigma code
- Determined the earth revolves around the sun
- Discovered radium
- Ryszard Kuklinski (top US cold war spy)
- Kielbasa
- Vodka

More Recently?
- errrr...Mechbunny Tube Script...?


Edit: Forgot what I came in here to write

The whole recording scandal is all over the news here. The opposing political party (PIS) is milking it for all it's worth trying to get early elections called. The current ruling party (PO) is in all interviews ignoring everyone's concerns about what was said on the tapes and more talking about "We need to find who made these illegal tapes". There's also a bunch of talk about how it may be a Russian plot to try to destabilize the country - but I personally doubt that.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

These people ain't going to Poland unless they are offering free life time hamburgers.

Actually - Apparently Mcdonalds here is giving away some new burger free to everyone that wants one until friday

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

2) If you don't defend Poland from Russia or any other aggressor for that matter, it sets a bad precedent. All american allies will see they in fact cannot count on the US for support and it will start an arms race.

which.. would be financially beneficial to the largest arms dealers of the world, correct?

[pimpmaster9000]

face it: US elections = global elections...the future of the world is decided by 5% of the world...what klingon will rule next...

most of the world is in one way or another being racketeered by the USA and its bullshit "peace efforts" ...shit even my shit hole country was forced to send soldier to iraq, even though the USA bombed us too ...the USA is legitimizing its violence by dragging others in to its conflicts...

whenever the USA needs to "bring democracy" to a region it involves a few brits and canadians and french to make it seem "more legit"...the USA has military bases in 130 of the worlds 190 countries just like the fucking mafia...the people around the US government make major bank on USAs #1 export: war and weapons...the US government sells you "safety" just like the fucking mafia did during the days of al capone

we need to arm the fuck up...take sides with russia and the chinnese and arm up like a mother fucker...we need military bases on US soil...lots of them...fair is fair if the USA can have bases in 130 countries (americans will not understand this, they think its their god given right to occupy others LOL) ...

drones/bacteria/nuclear whatever...arm the fuck up or be told what to do by hillary clinton in 2016 (or whenever the fuck their 2 party elections are held)

[SGS]

You would have thought that John Kerry could have afforded a better wig?

[RebelR]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Ever? Off the top of my head:
- Cracked enigma code
- Determined the earth revolves around the sun
- Discovered radium
- Ryszard Kuklinski (top US cold war spy)
- Kielbasa
- Vodka

More Recently?
- errrr...Mechbunny Tube Script...?


Edit: Forgot what I came in here to write

The whole recording scandal is all over the news here. The opposing political party (PIS) is milking it for all it's worth trying to get early elections called. The current ruling party (PO) is in all interviews ignoring everyone's concerns about what was said on the tapes and more talking about "We need to find who made these illegal tapes". There's also a bunch of talk about how it may be a Russian plot to try to destabilize the country - but I personally doubt that.

Thank you for Kielbasa, I enjoy it very much.

[H-Tom]

Originally Posted by Rochard

What has Poland done for the US lately?

We where helping you in your recent wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Yugoslavia.

Originally Posted by Rochard

Or ever for that matter.

You mean like in 1776 when we where fighting for your independene?
Read about Kosciuszko a close friend of Thomas Jefferson.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Ever? Off the top of my head:
- Cracked enigma code
- Determined the earth revolves around the sun
- Discovered radium
- Ryszard Kuklinski (top US cold war spy)
- Kielbasa
- Vodka

More Recently?
- errrr...Mechbunny Tube Script...?


Edit: Forgot what I came in here to write

The whole recording scandal is all over the news here. The opposing political party (PIS) is milking it for all it's worth trying to get early elections called. The current ruling party (PO) is in all interviews ignoring everyone's concerns about what was said on the tapes and more talking about "We need to find who made these illegal tapes". There's also a bunch of talk about how it may be a Russian plot to try to destabilize the country - but I personally doubt that.

So the Polish played a role in breaking the Enigma.... Which enabled the the Allies to beat the Germans.... Freeing Poland. I still the think Poland owes everyone for that one.

The rest is.... Blah.

I understand this is one politician, but.... You cannot deny the amount of support the US gives Poland and Europe in general. If this guy wants us to leave, no sweat - we'll leave.

BTW... I'm Polish too.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by H-Tom

We where helping you in your recent wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Yugoslavia.


You mean like in 1776 when we where fighting for your independene?
Read about Kosciuszko a close friend of Thomas Jefferson.

Again, how many Polish planes are protecting the US / Russian border?

[H-Tom]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I understand this is one politician, but.... You cannot deny the amount of support the US gives Poland and Europe in general. If this guy wants us to leave, no sweat - we'll leave.

Poland was not free after the WW2. We where left by the USA and Britan in the hands of Russians that started this war together with Germans by invading Poland in the first place. We could not benefit from the Marshall Plan. For us WW2 ended not in 1945 but in 1989. We dont owe USA anything.

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

- Discovered radium

france did it

lol at kielbasa:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielbasa

[_Richard_]

ahh gfy

[editeur]

Originally Posted by H-Tom

Poland was not free after the WW2. We where left by the USA and Britan in the hands of Russians that started this war together with Germans by invading Poland in the first place. We could not benefit from the Marshall Plan. For us WW2 ended not in 1945 but in 1989. We dont owe USA anything.

Nope, it's Poles and Germans who started WW2. After Munich Agreement (1938) Germans took Sudets from Czech Republic and Poles occupied Teshin SIlesia district. Only after WW2 both these parts of Czech Republic were given back.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

france did it

Marie Curie was Polish. She french by marriage - full name Marie Skłodowska-Curie

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Again, how many Polish planes are protecting the US / Russian border?

That's really comparing a small country to a world superpower... the US has no need for polish planes to be patrolling it's borders because no one is threatening to attack the US at this time. As for russian border, I can't say - i'm not a military planner... as far as i know our border with russia IS being protected now as a bunch of military was relocated there. As for the ukrainian border with russia, I suspect that it's a matter of spreading ourselves too thin - Poland has no where near the military power of the US.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Actually - Apparently Mcdonalds here is giving away some new burger free to everyone that wants one until friday

go get your micro chip i mean free burgers!

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

That kind of begs the question...





ADG

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Actually - Apparently Mcdonalds here is giving away some new burger free to everyone that wants one until friday

[Cherry7]

Poland fails to learn from history.

Poland attacked the Soviet Union in 1919, taking land that was ethnically mixed. Allied itself with the West to save the west from the barbarians of the East.

Their nationalism and feelings of victimhood makes them ignore their failure to fight fascism in the 30's, Refusal to talk to the Soviets about fighting the Germans together.

The Polish leaders held the Russian Army in contempt and thought they could take on the Germans in 1939 with the help of the French and Brits. Even though together they had been party to the destruction of the Spanish Republic and Czechoslovakia
Why did they think the French were prepared to save the Poles?

In fact it was the Russians who saved Europe from the Barbarians not the other way round, taking on 80% of the German Army and defeating it.

The Russians liberated Poland and put radicals in charge not the Catholic anti-semitic nationalists of pre war time.

They gave Poland the stable borders of today.

The abolished unemployment, gave equal rights to woman, expanded free higher education for all, build houses and abolished homelessness. Produced Polish books, plays, theatres, music and films which became famous though out the world.

There where negative sides too, but as they are screamed out from every mass media outlet everyday, I will just point out the positive.