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Old 07-14-2014, 12:43 PM   #101
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Huge Amount of Stats on how Porn affects people in this article:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...01401/is-male-
porn-use-ruining-sex

It includes discussion of interest in real partners, erectile disfunction, etc.
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Old 07-14-2014, 12:44 PM   #102
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http://www.phillymag.com/articles/th...ung-men/?all=1

Something, it seems, is sucking the life out of guys quite literally. One-third of male

college students say they’ve experienced erectile dysfunction. Leonard Sax, a family

physician for nearly 20 years who authored the book Boys Adrift, saw more and more

of them in his Maryland office, asking for Viagra and Cialis. Constant access to porn has

desensitized them; they can’t get it up with live girls. “We’re seeing the replacement of

penile sex with oral sex,” says Sax, “with the girl on her knees, servicing the boy. Boys

and girls both end up losers.” One in five men ages 18 to 25 are now classified as “sub-ha

fertile” because of low sperm count and quality, both of which have been dropping in

the developed world for the past 50 years. Curiously, 50 years ago, around 64 percent

of all college students were male.
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Old 07-14-2014, 12:47 PM   #103
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Hey, are you noticing, dear DamianJ, that I'm not quoting religious sources here? By the way, a Psychology Today article that I can't yet relocate featured a study that shows that 25% of guys who start looking at porn in their early teens cannot get an erection with a real woman by their mid 20s. I'll look for it more in a bit. However, I've got lots and LOTS more to share with you.
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Not enough? Need more? I've got hundreds of pages. Here are some more for ya, in summary form so you can easily get the point, but with references to the study so you can look it up yourself if you so choose (summary first, then reference to study):

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As a result of viewing pornography women reported lowered body image, partner critical of their body, increased pressure to perform acts seen in pornographic films, and less actual sex, while men reported being more critical of their partners? body and less interested in actual sex.

Albright, J. (2008). Sex in America online: An exploration of sex, marital status, and sexual identity in Internet sex seeking and its impacts. Journal of Sex Research, 45, 175?186.

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Exposure to ?massive pornography? leads to changes in beliefs and attitudes. For example, reduced support for the women?s liberation movement, reduced belief that pornography needs to be restricted for minors, reduced recommended jail sentences for rapists, increased callousness toward woman, and beliefs of increased frequency of pathological sex (such as sex with animals, and sex with violence).

Zillmann, D & J. Bryant. (1984). Effects of massive exposure to pornography. In Malamuth, N and Donnerstein, E. (Eds), Pornography and sexual aggression. San Diego, Academic Press.

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The strongest predictors of use of cyberporn were weak ties to religion and lack of a happy marriage. However, past sexual deviance (e.g., involvement in paid sex) was also a strong predictor of cyberporn use. Persons ever having an extramarital affair were 3.18 times more apt to have used cyberporn than ones who had lacked affairs. Further, those ever having engaged in paid sex were 3.7 times more apt than those who had not to be using cyberporn. Overall the model explained 40 percent of the variance in porn use on the Internet.

Stack, S., Wasserman, I. & Kern, R. (2004). Adult Social Bonds and Use of Internet Pornography. Social Science Quarterly, 85, 75-88.

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Women who were exposed to pornography as children were more likely to accept the rape myth and to have sexual fantasies that involved rape.

Corne, S., Briere, J. & Esses, L. (1992). Women?s attitudes and fantasies about rape as a function of early exposure to pornography. Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 7, 4, 454-461.

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Male domestic violence offenders who utilize the sex industry (pornography and strip clubs) use more controlling behaviors, engage in more sexual abuse, stalking and marital rape against their partners then males who do not use the sex industry.

Simmons, C. A, Lehmann, P & Collier-Tenison, S. (2008). Linking male use of the sex industry to controlling behaviors in violent relationships. Violence against Women, 14, 406-417.

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At the 2003 meeting of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers, a gathering of the nation?s divorce lawyers, attendees documented a startling trend. Nearly two-thirds of the attorneys present had witnessed a sudden rise in divorces related to the Internet; 58% of those were the result of a spouse looking at excessive amounts of pornography online.

Paul, P. (2005). Pornified. New York: Times Books.

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In a sample of 30 juveniles who had committed sex offenses, exposure to pornographic material at a young age was common. The researchers reported that 29 of the 30 juveniles had been exposed to X-rated magazines or videos; the average age at exposure was about 7.5 years.

Wieckowski, E., Hartsoe, P., Mayer, A., and Shortz, J. 1998. Deviant sexual behavior in children and young adolescents: Frequency and patterns. Sexual Abuse: A Journal of Research and Treatment, 10, 4, 293-304.

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Juvenile sex offenders were questioned about their use of sexually explicit material. Only 11% said they did not use sexually explicit material. Of those who used the material, 74% said it increased their sexual arousal.

Becker, J. V. & Stein, R. M. (1991). Is sexual erotica associated with sexual deviance in adolescent males? International Journal of Law and Psychiatry, 14, 85-95.

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Male and female students and non students were shown videos for one hour each week for six weeks. Half of these subjects were shown pornography which was non violent and included common sexual practices. Half of the subjects were shown videos that had no pornography, no violence and were innocuous. Two weeks after they stopped seeing the videos they were all given an opportunity to watch videos in private. Those who saw the pornography were significantly more likely to pick harder core pornography which included sex with animals and sex that included violence. Those who had seen the innocuous videos were unlikely to pick the pornographic videos to watch. They were especially unlikely to pick the hardcore pornographic videos to watch.

Watching pornographic videos increases the interest in watching pornographic videos that are more hardcore and contain unusual and/or pathological sexual behaviors.

Zillmann, D. & Bryant, J. (1986). Shifting preferences in pornography consumption. Communication Research, 13, 4, 560-578.

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Almost two thirds (67%) of young adult males find pornography use acceptable while 49% of young adult females find it acceptable. More young adult males use pornography (87%) than young adult females (31%). While 31% of males use pornography never or less than once a month about 5% of males use pornography daily or almost daily. Young adult females use pornography infrequently; 69 % never use it, 21% use it less than once a month and only .2% use it daily or almost every day. For males, more pornography use is correlated with more sex partners, more alcohol use, more binge drinking, greater acceptance of sex outside of marriage for married individuals, greater acceptance of sex before marriage and less child centeredness during marriage.

Carroll, J. S., Padilla-Walker, L. M., Nelson, L. J., Olson, C. D., Barry, C. M., & Madsen, S. (2008). Generation XXX: Pornography acceptance and use among emerging adults. Journal of Adolescent Research, 23, 1, 6-30.

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Males who are involved with interpersonal violence in their relationships and who use pornography and go to strip clubs use more controlling behaviors with their partners. These males engage in more sexual abuse, stalking and marital rape than abusers who do not use pornography and go to strip clubs.

Simmons, C. A., Lehmann, P. & Collier-Tennison, S. (2008). Linking male use of the sex industry to controlling behaviors in violent relationships: An exploratory analysis. Violence Against Women, 14, 406-417.

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Forty percent of abused women indicated that their partner used violent pornography. Of those whose partners used pornography, 53% of the women indicated that they had been asked or forced to enact scenes that they had been shown. Forty percent of the abused women had been raped and of these, 73% stated that their partners had used pornography. Twenty-six percent of the women had been reminded of pornography during the abuse.

Cramer, E. & McFarlane, J. (1994). Pornography and abuse of women. Public Health Nursing, 11, 4, 268-272.

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The likelihood of sexual harassment is significantly correlated with volume of past exposure of sexually explicit materials.

Barak, A., Fisher, W.A., Belfry, S., & Lashambe, D. R. (1999). Sex, guys, and cyberspace: Effects of internet pornography and individual differences on men?s attitudes toward women. Journal of Psychological and Human Sexuality, 11, 63-92.

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There was an increase in attitudes supporting sexual violence following pornography exposure. Violent pornography increased these attitudes even more than non violent pornography.

Allen, M., Emmers, T. M., Gebhardt, L., & Giery, M. (1995). Pornography and rape myth acceptance. Journal of Communication, 45, 5-26.

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High pornography users were higher in rape myth acceptance, acceptance of violence against women, adversarial sex beliefs, reported likelihood of rape, reported likelihood of forced sex acts and sex callousness than low pornography users.

High pornography users who were shown nonviolent dehumanizing pornography showed higher scores in reported likelihood of rape, sex callousness and sexually aggressive behaviors than high pornography users who weren?t shown pornography.

Check. J. V. P., & Guloien, T. H. (1989). The effects of repeated exposure to sexually violent pornography, nonviolent dehumanizing pornography, and erotica. In D. Zillmann & J. Bryan (Eds.), Pornography: Recent research, interpretations, and policy considerations (pp. 159-184). Hillsdale, NJ: Erlbaum.

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Males who were high in hostile masculinity, sexual promiscuity and who used pornography frequently were significantly more likely to have physically and sexually aggressed (7.78) than males who were low in these factors (.4).

Malamuth, N., Addison, T. & Koss, M. (2000). Pornography and sexual aggression: Are there reliable effects and can we understand them? Annual Review of Sex Research, 11, 26-68.

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Adolescents exposed to sexually explicit websites (SEWs) were more likely to have multiple lifetime sexual partners, to have had more than one sexual partner in the last 3 months, to have used alcohol or other substances at last sexual encounter, and to have engaged in anal sex. Adolescents who visit SEWs display higher sexual permissiveness scores compared with those who have never been exposed, indicating a more permissive attitude.

Braun-Courville, D. & Rojas, M. (2009). Exposure to sexually explicit web sites and adolescent sexual attitudes and behaviors. Journal of Adolescent Health, 45, 156-162.

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Thanks for that. Do you have any links to peer reviewed medical articles in a proper scientific journal, like I asked for?

Not popsci link bait that isn't peer reviewed and published on a website.

Thanks.
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Youth 12-17 in the 90th percentile of TV sex viewing had a predicted probability of intercourse initiation that was approximately double that of youth in the 10th percentile.

Collins, R., Elliott, M., Berry, S., Kanouse, D., Kunkel, D., Hunter, S. & Miu, A. (2004). Watching sex on television predicts adolescent initiation of sexual behavior. Pediatrics, 114, 3, e280-e289.

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Teens who were exposed to high levels of television sexual content (90th percentile) were twice as likely to experience pregnancy in the subsequent 3 years, compared to those with lower levels of exposure (10th percentile). Teen?s base rate of media consumption was measured when they were 12-17 years old and the outcome measures were taken when they were 15-20 years old.

Chandra, A., Martino, S., Collins, R., Elliott, M., Berry, S., Kanouse, D. & Miu, A. (2008). Does watching sex on television predict teen pregnancy? Findings from a national longitudinal survey of youth. Pediatrics, 122, 1047-1054.

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Exposure to sexually explicit online movies was significantly related to beliefs about women as sex objects for both male and female 13-18 year-old Dutch adolescents.

Peter, J. & Valkenburg, P. (2007). Adolescents? exposure to a sexualized media environment and their notions of women as sex objects. Sex Roles, 56, 381?395.

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Reading and viewing pornographic material (magazines, comics, films and videos) was linked to perpetrating sexual violence (both sexual harassment and forced sex) for both male and female adolescents. Reading and viewing pornographic material was linked to being a victim of sexual violence (both sexual harassment and forced sex) for female adolescents. Reading and viewing pornographic material was linked to being the victim of forced sex for male adolescents.

Bonino, S., Ciairano, S. Rabaglietti, E. & Cattelino, E. (2006). Use of pornography and self-reported engagement in sexual violence among adolescents. European Journal of Developmental Psychology, 3, 3, 265-288.

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Japanese males who were exposed to a rape depiction in which the woman enjoyed the rape were more likely to believe that women in general enjoy rape and make false accusations of rape when compared to males who were exposed to a rape depiction in which the women displayed pain.

Ohbuchi, K. Ikeda, T. & Takeuchi, G. (1994). Effects of violent pornography upon viewers rape myth beliefs: A study of Japanese males. Psychology, Crime & Law, 1, 71-81.

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Early adolescent males who viewed mostly R and X (NC-17) rated films had a more accepting attitude toward sexual harassment than males who viewed mostly G, PG and PG-13 films. Early adolescent females who listened to more pop music were more accepting of sexual harassment than females who listened to little pop music.

Strouse, J., Goodwin, M. & Roscoe, B. (1994). Correlates of attitudes toward sexual harassment among early adolescents. Sex Roles, 31, 559-577.

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Sex offenders show a high rate of use of hard core pornography: child molesters (67%), incest offenders (53%), rapists (83%) compared to non-offenders (29%). Child molesters (37%) and rapists (35%) were more likely to use pornography as an instigator to offending than were incest offenders (13%). The material used to instigate offending was often adult and consensual pornography.

Marshall, W. L. (1988). The use of sexually explicit stimuli by rapists, child molesters and non-offenders. Journal of Sex Research, 25, 2, 267-288.

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In this study, we examined the unique contribution of pornography consumption to the longitudinal prediction of criminal recidivism in a sample of 341 child molesters. After controlling for general and specific risk factors for sexual aggression, pornography added significantly to the prediction of recidivism. Statistical interactions indicated that frequency of pornography use was primarily a risk factor for higher-risk offenders, when compared with lower-risk offenders, and that content of pornography (i.e., pornography containing deviant content) was a risk factor for all groups. For those who viewed deviant pornography, the predicted odds of criminal recidivism increased by 177%, the predicted odds for violent (including sexual) recidivism increased by 185%, and the predicted odds of sexual recidivism was 233%.

Kingston, D. A., Fedoroff, P., Firestone, P., Curry, S., Bradford, J. M. (2008) Pornography use and sexual aggression: The impact of frequency and type of pornography use on recidivism among sexual offenders. Aggressive Behavior, 34, 4, 341-351.

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Approximately 93 percent of the child molesters reported having some fantasies about committing sexual offenses against children. The child molesters were far more likely to have used more pornography in adulthood and the most common type of materials were "soft-core" materials, which involved nudity or consenting sexual activities between adults. Some child molesters reported a cathartic effect of viewing pornography, but this perception was not supported by other results of this study in that over one third of the child molesters reported using pornographic materials shortly before committing a sexual offense

Wheeler, D. L. (1997). The relationship between pornography usage and child molesting. Dissertation Abstracts International Section A: Humanities and Social Sciences, Vol 57(8-A), pp. 3691.

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I could go on and on and on and on... Sorry, guys, the research shows pornography does indeed have a TON of negative impacts. If you'd like, I can also post research that indicates it impacts the brain in very similar ways to heroin addictions, as well. Shall I continue?
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Thanks for that. Do you have any links to peer reviewed medical articles in a proper scientific journal, like I asked for?

Not popsci link bait that isn't peer reviewed and published on a website.

Thanks.
Uh, Damian, I assume you posted this ignorant comment before reading the numerous summaries of peer-reviewed studies that I've posted. Copy and paste the source information into Google Scholar. Knock yourself out.
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"A positive correlation was obtained between the amount of hardcore pornography that was viewed and the impact of the benefits reaped. This positive correlation was found for both sexes. In other words, the more that one watched porn, the stronger the benefits (for both sexes)! There you have it."

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...or-detrimental

Articles are articles Donny, It's easy to find what you think is the right thing.

Now go back to talking to God and preaching your BS to sheeps.
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wait. you found, in the news of all places, that everything you pretend to be afraid of is true?

next you'll be telling us war is good!
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I'm not sure he knows what peer reviewed or scientific journal means.

It's cute he's trying though.
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wait. you found, in the news of all places, that everything you pretend to be afraid of is true?

next you'll be telling us war is good!
Wait. You posted, on GFY of all places, before getting to the end of the present discussion and seeing the peer reviewed study summaries, complete with sources for easy look up?

Next you'll be telling us you're a scholar and not an idiot!
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I'm not sure he knows what peer reviewed or scientific journal means.

It's cute he's trying though.
You obviously haven't been looking through the summaries I posted. Unless you're an idiot, you'll notice the names of several different journals amongst the source lines, which are included after every summary I just posted. I've lectured at UC Davis, Purdue, Ohio State, York University and even Yale. I've lectured alongside Psychiatrists, Neurosurgeons and Professors. I assure you, I'm aware of what "peer reviewed" and "scientific journal" means. As I said before my posting marathon, I would be mixing peer reviewed studies with articles on websites. I did that because most of the idiots that post here wouldn't comprehend peer reviewed studies. Does that description apply to you as well, or are you ready to go back and read for comprehension this time?

I can type them out again, more slowly if you think that will assist in your comprehension of what's being posted.
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Just three links to peer reviewed studies printed in a scientific journal will do Donny.

Can't see you've posted one of them.

Not to worry, carry on saving souls. I knew you wouldn't be able to do as I requested.
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I'm not sure he knows what peer reviewed or scientific journal means.

It's cute he's trying though.

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You obviously haven't been looking through the summaries I posted. Unless you're an idiot, you'll notice the names of several different journals amongst the source lines, which are included after every summary I just posted. I've lectured at UC Davis, Purdue, Ohio State, York University and even Yale. I've lectured alongside Psychiatrists, Neurosurgeons and Professors. I assure you, I'm aware of what "peer reviewed" and "scientific journal" means. As I said before my posting marathon, I would be mixing peer reviewed studies with articles on websites. I did that because most of the idiots that post here wouldn't comprehend peer reviewed studies. Does that description apply to you as well, or are you ready to go back and read for comprehension this time?

I can type them out again, more slowly if you think that will assist in your comprehension of what's being posted.
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Just three links to peer reviewed studies printed in a scientific journal will do Donny.

Can't see you've posted one of them.

Not to worry, carry on saving souls. I knew you wouldn't be able to do as I requested.



For example, genius, my VERY FIRST reply to you included a study by Nathaniel M. Lambert, Sesen Negash, Tyler F. Stillman, Spencer B. Olmstead, and Frank D. Fincham from 2012 that was entitled A Love That Doesn't Last: Pornography Consumption and Weakened Commitment to One's Romantic Partner. It had been published in the Journal of Social and Clinical Psychology. Vol. 31, No. 4, pages 410-438.

Instead of claiming that I don't know what peer-reviewed, scientific journals might be, perhaps you should have taken a bit of time to READ and notice when sources were listed. There are several journals referenced.
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Just three links to peer reviewed studies printed in a scientific journal will do Donny.

Can't see you've posted one of them.

Not to worry, carry on saving souls. I knew you wouldn't be able to do as I requested.


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For example, genius, my VERY FIRST reply to you included a study by Nathaniel M. Lambert, Sesen Negash, Tyler F. Stillman, Spencer B. Olmstead, and Frank D. Fincham from 2012 that was entitled A Love That Doesn't Last: Pornography Consumption and Weakened Commitment to One's Romantic Partner. It had been published in the Journal of Social and Clinical Psychology. Vol. 31, No. 4, pages 410-438.

Instead of claiming that I don't know what peer-reviewed, scientific journals might be, perhaps you should have taken a bit of time to READ and notice when sources were listed. There are several journals referenced.

I guess things need to be made more clear to you. First of all, let me introduce you to Google Scholar:

http://scholar.google.com/

There are many resources like this, but I know you've probably not heard of them, but have undoubtedly heard of Google.

Now here's what you do with that site, DamianJ:
Go to post #106 for this example. Notice this particular line:
Albright, J. (2008). Sex in America online: An exploration of sex, marital status, and sexual identity in Internet sex seeking and its impacts. Journal of Sex Research, 45, 175–186.
You see that part in bold and italics? Yeah. THAT is the name of a Journal, Einstein. But guess what? All you really have to do is copy and paste the entire source line - beginning with Albright and ending with 175-186. - and hit enter. Magically, the study will come up! Amazing, isn't it?

Have you attended college at all? Even a Junior College? Taken any honors classes in high school, maybe? If so, you certainly can recognize the formatting I used for my sources.

But maybe you just forgot, huh? Well here, Captain Academic, let me point some things out for you from that list I posted earlier:

Journal of Sex Research
Social Science Quarterly
Journal of Interpersonal Violence
Sexual Abuse: A Journal of Research and Treatment
International Journal of Law and Psychiatry
Journal of Adolescent Research
Public Health Nursing
Journal of Psychological and Human Sexuality
Journal of Communication
(and on and on and on)

Guess what all those are, Professor D? Take a shot at it! Lemme know when the lights turn on.

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It's cute he's trying though.
It wouldn't even matter if a study was 'peer reviewed' in an academic journal (tho I know what you are saying). I just mean it's ALL poppycock. Reminds me of when "concerned parents" thought rap and metal music were corrupting their little kiddies' minds back in the '80's (anyone remember the PMRC?).

I just love it and find it amusing when people spout stats and studies showing this or that. There is rarely (if ever these days) a study or report that isn't skewed one way or the other by the people who funded it.
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Sex offenders show a high rate of use of hard core pornography: child molesters (67%), incest offenders (53%), rapists (83%) compared to non-offenders (29%). Child molesters (37%) and rapists (35%) were more likely to use pornography as an instigator to offending than were incest offenders (13%). The material used to instigate offending was often adult and consensual pornography.

Marshall, W. L. (1988). The use of sexually explicit stimuli by rapists, child molesters and non-offenders. Journal of Sex Research, 25, 2, 267-288.

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Considering that around 100 pct. of men view hardcore pornography.

It's definitely a pity that many sex offenders don't, if they did - perhaps world would be a better place!

Last time I checked there is also a strong correlation between bigot Christian supressive upbringing and the occurence of sexual deviations among the adults. So your hand clapping audience may as well be in average say 25 pct. closeted sex offenders.

I hope they have access to porn, otherwise it may end up full Vatican style, and that wouldn't be nice.

In fact I bet they get into the full jack off mode with the latest fresh of the bus multi-midget gagging porn anytime their prude spouse falls asleep, so she can re-enjoy her favorite dream getting gangbanged and receiving a bukkake of the year from a black pagan monstercock militia.
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You obviously haven't been looking through the summaries I posted. Unless you're an idiot, you'll notice the names of several different journals amongst the source lines, which are included after every summary I just posted. I've lectured at UC Davis, Purdue, Ohio State, York University and even Yale. I've lectured alongside Psychiatrists, Neurosurgeons and Professors. I assure you, I'm aware of what "peer reviewed" and "scientific journal" means. As I said before my posting marathon, I would be mixing peer reviewed studies with articles on websites. I did that because most of the idiots that post here wouldn't comprehend peer reviewed studies. Does that description apply to you as well, or are you ready to go back and read for comprehension this time?

I can type them out again, more slowly if you think that will assist in your comprehension of what's being posted.
You obviously haven't been looking
you're an idiot
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wouldn't comprehend
type them out again, more slowly
assist in your comprehension

and you wonder why we think you're a dumb fucking ingrate? is this how Jesus would talk with people Donny?? you wanna talk long deep shit... start walking the long deep shit asshole

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You obviously haven't been looking
you're an idiot
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type them out again, more slowly
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and you wonder why we think you're a dumb fucking ingrate? is this how Jesus would talk with people Donny?? you wanna talk long deep shit... start walking the long deep shit asshole
It's easy to tell when a person hasn't done much Bible study. Do you think Jesus was some gentle man who was nice to everyone? He flipped tables, whipped people to get them out of the temple, and often let his disciples know when he thought they were being idiots. Read more of the source materials, Brian, rather than some summary by your favorite obscure author.
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Considering that around 100 pct. of men view hardcore pornography.

It's definitely a pity that many sex offenders don't, if they did - perhaps world would be a better place!

Last time I checked there is also a strong correlation between bigot Christian supressive upbringing and the occurence of sexual deviations among the adults. So your hand clapping audience may as well be in average say 25 pct. closeted sex offenders.

I hope they have access to porn, otherwise it may end up full Vatican style, and that wouldn't be nice.

In fact I bet they get into the full jack off mode with the latest fresh of the bus multi-midget gagging porn anytime their prude spouse falls asleep, so she can re-enjoy her favorite dream getting gangbanged and receiving a bukkake of the year from a black pagan monstercock militia.


nicely said
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It's easy to tell when a person hasn't done much Bible study. Do you think Jesus was some gentle man who was nice to everyone? He flipped tables, whipped people to get them out of the temple, and often let his disciples know when he thought they were being idiots. Read more of the source materials, Brian, rather than some summary by your favorite obscure author.
There is going to be a lot of pissed off religious folks when their time comes. Bunch of fucking sheep.
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Hey Grapesoda,

MaDalton's appreciation of juvenile humor kinda makes my point about the intellectual capacity of most of the board's readers, eh? "Nicely said"? If one and one's peers have the maturity level of the average third grader, perhaps.

But this does relate in a way to the discussion at hand: most male consumers of porn don't do much thinking, but instead react to instinct and emotions. The good news is that they simply haven't considered the bigger picture. Once they're given some data to consider, such as the info I and others present at our talks, many decide they can do without porn.

I'm not out attacking pornographers when I speak. In fact, things I've written and speeches I've given demonstrate that I am very much annoyed at those who try to go after any person in the adult biz. I'm out to educate consumers and change hearts about what porn really is. Progress is being made to reduce the demand using the same methods that made cigarettes less popular: by making it "uncool" to consume. Porn will never go away, but this approach is definitely growing in support.
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nice useless posts, lunatic.

Doesn't have anything to do with the point i was making though.

What's your stance on prostitution? It exists for 4000 years, and probably even before that. It's very likely Jesus Christ banged whores as well.

On a side note, it's funny to see a creepy religious nut grasping for science to prove a point. Why not quote the good book, the foundation of your 180? The same book your poor audience believes, where the earth is 6000 years old. And a human being walks on water. And is dead for 3 days. Things that are scientifically completely impossible.

You are making yourself look more and more ridiculous with every word. Faker.
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Funny thing is that the "juvenile" humour makes probably much more sense and is much more in touch with an actual reality than any of these mind hurting tyriads of pseudo "studies" and pseudo intellectual "assumptions" and "formulations" that really make one wonder if the person spewing it really is SO delusional as to take himself seriously.

I really don't believe it's the case, if it's the case - then I'm really, really sorry, very sorry - only god can help here!

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Donny, why is there so much sexual abuse in the church against minors and why is it covered up all the time? Why does the church try to sweep it under the rug? If anyone is deviants its the Catholic church.
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Wait. You posted, on GFY of all places, before getting to the end of the present discussion and seeing the peer reviewed study summaries, complete with sources for easy look up?

Next you'll be telling us you're a scholar and not an idiot!
a good attempt! you just need to make sense and have a relevant point in order for it to be funny.

see, you think this is some sort of official debate that comes wiht all sorts of officialdom.

Instead, you're posting random studies that support what you believe.

i, myself, could post random studies that not only support what i believe, but refute your beliefs!

BUT, you could just go ahead and tell us all how much MORE mindy made for you!

do you use that in your lecture.. 'i made this much off mindy shooting porn.. i made THIS much off mindy talking to you right now!'

inquiring minds.. romeo..
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Donny, why is there so much sexual abuse in the church against minors and why is it covered up all the time? Why does the church try to sweep it under the rug? If anyone is deviants its the Catholic church.
So much? ANY is horrible, of course, but the facts are that priests abuse at a FAR less percentage than males in the general population. Don't believe me? Google something like "percentage of priests who abuse" or something similar. You'll see evidence all over the internet that says exactly what I just said.

In other words, those of faith actually DO abuse at a lesser percentage than those without faith. It obviously cannot be stated that abuse doesn't exist at all. Anywhere humans exist, horrible things will happen. That seems to be the nature of humanity, faith or not.
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'i made this much off mindy shooting porn.. i made THIS much off mindy talking to you right now!'
I don't expect you to have read each post, but do want to point out I've already addressed this here:

How much money do you think I make from speaking? I don't support myself through speaking. I support myself with a business I started in December 2006 - Internet marketing, and website management and related consulting services for auto dealers. Almost all of what I am given for speaking honorariums is given away to single moms and/or their kids. Again, this has been addressed. Mindy hasn't made a dime for me, but does happen to be one of the single moms to which I've given money from speaking honorariums.
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Like I said (in my earlier post that has gone ignored), Donny is speaking rather than listening. Anyone can find a host of articles, peer reviewed or otherwise, that supports their opinion on the matter, all you need do is to input the right keywords in your searches.

Why here's one now...

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articl...-Good-for-us-/
  • Over the years, many scientists have investigated the link between pornography (considered legal under the First Amendment in the United States unless judged ?obscene?) and sex crimes and attitudes towards women. And in every region investigated, researchers have found that as pornography has increased in availability, sex crimes have either decreased or not increased.
  • No correlation has been found between exposure to porn and negative attitudes towards women.
  • To examine the effect this widespread use of porn may be having on society, researchers have often exposed people to porn and measured some variable such as changes in attitude or predicted hypothetical behaviors, interviewed sex offenders about their experience with pornography, and interviewed victims of sex abuse to evaluate if pornography was involved in the assault. Surprisingly few studies have linked the availability of porn in any society with antisocial behaviors or sex crimes. Among those studies none have found a causal relationship and very few have even found one positive correlation.
  • Despite the widespread and increasing availability of sexually explicit materials, according to national FBI Department of Justice statistics, the incidence of rape declined markedly from 1975 to 1995. This was particularly seen in the age categories 20?24 and 25?34, the people most likely to use the Internet. The best known of these national studies are those of Berl Kutchinsky, who studied Denmark, Sweden, West Germany, and the United States in the 1970s and 1980s. He showed that for the years from approximately 1964 to 1984, as the amount of pornography increasingly became available, the rate of rapes in these countries either decreased or remained relatively level. Later research has shown parallel findings in every other country examined, including Japan, Croatia, China, Poland, Finland, and the Czech Republic. In the United States there has been a consistent decline in rape over the last 2 decades, and in those countries that allowed for the possession of child pornography, child sex abuse has declined. Significantly, no community in the United States has ever voted to ban adult access to sexually explicit material. The only feature of a community standard that holds is an intolerance for materials in which minors are involved as participants or consumers.
  • In terms of the use of pornography by sex offenders, the police sometimes suggest that a high percentage of sex offenders are found to have used pornography. This is meaningless, since most men have at some time used pornography. Looking closer, Michael Goldstein and Harold Kant found that rapists were more likely than nonrapists in the prison population to have been punished for looking at pornography while a youngster, while other research has shown that incarcerated nonrapists had seen more pornography, and seen it at an earlier age, than rapists. What does correlate highly with sex offense is a strict, repressive religious upbringing. Richard Green too has reported that both rapists and child molesters use less pornography than a control group of ?normal? males.
  • Now let?s look at attitudes towards women. Studies of men who had seen X-rated movies found that they were significantly more tolerant and accepting of women than those men who didn?t see those movies, and studies by other investigators?female as well as male?essentially found similarly that there was no detectable relationship between the amount of exposure to pornography and any measure of misogynist attitudes. No researcher or critic has found the opposite, that exposure to pornography?by any definition?has had a cause-and-effect relationship towards ill feelings or actions against women. No correlation has even been found between exposure to porn and calloused attitudes toward women.

Here's another one: http://healthland.time.com/2013/04/2...ously-thought/

And another: http://www.lehmiller.com/blog/2012/3...ove-lives.html

You won't read them of course, but the conflicting expert opinions and data are there, and that's not even scratching the surface of the number of links that just ONE google search turned up.

Keep talking Donny. Never listen. We're all just heathens here, right? Oh who am I kidding, you'll ignore this post like you conveniently flew by my earlier one. Good luck winning your debate.
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I don't expect you to have read each post, but do want to point out I've already addressed this here:

How much money do you think I make from speaking? I don't support myself through speaking. I support myself with a business I started in December 2006 - Internet marketing, and website management and related consulting services for auto dealers. Almost all of what I am given for speaking honorariums is given away to single moms and/or their kids. Again, this has been addressed. Mindy hasn't made a dime for me, but does happen to be one of the single moms to which I've given money from speaking honorariums.
well, we'll just have to take your word for it
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So much? ANY is horrible, of course, but the facts are that priests abuse at a FAR less percentage than males in the general population. Don't believe me? Google something like "percentage of priests who abuse" or something similar. You'll see evidence all over the internet that says exactly what I just said.

In other words, those of faith actually DO abuse at a lesser percentage than those without faith. It obviously cannot be stated that abuse doesn't exist at all. Anywhere humans exist, horrible things will happen. That seems to be the nature of humanity, faith or not.
I shall search that when I am not on my mobile. So why the cover up by the church. All these animals and there are ALOT why are they protected by the pope and church.

I have a daughter and she will never see the inside of a church because of you sadistic mind warping animals. You and your religion are disgusting.
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mindy sounds like an unstable case - been taken advantage of by creepy donny. Im sure she always dreamt of being double teamed by two fat bald guys (no offense aaron).

Now she wants the same guy, a creepy, unstable, born again lunatic, who took advantage of her poor choices, to take care of her kids. She sure sounds like a person who makes all the right choices in life. You are still taking advantage of her to this day. She needs to be saved from you.

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Do you think Jesus was some gentle man who was nice to everyone? He flipped tables, whipped people to get them out of the temple, and often let his disciples know when he thought they were being idiots. Read more of the source materials, Brian, rather than some summary by your favorite obscure author.
You don't need to read the Bible to know that, it's a fucking internet meme!

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Like I said (in my earlier post that has gone ignored), Donny is speaking rather than listening. Anyone can find a host of articles, peer reviewed or otherwise, that supports their opinion on the matter, all you need do is to input the right keywords in your searches.

Why here's one now...

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articl...-Good-for-us-/
  • Over the years, many scientists have investigated the link between pornography (considered legal under the First Amendment in the United States unless judged ?obscene?) and sex crimes and attitudes towards women. And in every region investigated, researchers have found that as pornography has increased in availability, sex crimes have either decreased or not increased.
  • No correlation has been found between exposure to porn and negative attitudes towards women.
  • To examine the effect this widespread use of porn may be having on society, researchers have often exposed people to porn and measured some variable such as changes in attitude or predicted hypothetical behaviors, interviewed sex offenders about their experience with pornography, and interviewed victims of sex abuse to evaluate if pornography was involved in the assault. Surprisingly few studies have linked the availability of porn in any society with antisocial behaviors or sex crimes. Among those studies none have found a causal relationship and very few have even found one positive correlation.
  • Despite the widespread and increasing availability of sexually explicit materials, according to national FBI Department of Justice statistics, the incidence of rape declined markedly from 1975 to 1995. This was particularly seen in the age categories 20?24 and 25?34, the people most likely to use the Internet. The best known of these national studies are those of Berl Kutchinsky, who studied Denmark, Sweden, West Germany, and the United States in the 1970s and 1980s. He showed that for the years from approximately 1964 to 1984, as the amount of pornography increasingly became available, the rate of rapes in these countries either decreased or remained relatively level. Later research has shown parallel findings in every other country examined, including Japan, Croatia, China, Poland, Finland, and the Czech Republic. In the United States there has been a consistent decline in rape over the last 2 decades, and in those countries that allowed for the possession of child pornography, child sex abuse has declined. Significantly, no community in the United States has ever voted to ban adult access to sexually explicit material. The only feature of a community standard that holds is an intolerance for materials in which minors are involved as participants or consumers.
  • In terms of the use of pornography by sex offenders, the police sometimes suggest that a high percentage of sex offenders are found to have used pornography. This is meaningless, since most men have at some time used pornography. Looking closer, Michael Goldstein and Harold Kant found that rapists were more likely than nonrapists in the prison population to have been punished for looking at pornography while a youngster, while other research has shown that incarcerated nonrapists had seen more pornography, and seen it at an earlier age, than rapists. What does correlate highly with sex offense is a strict, repressive religious upbringing. Richard Green too has reported that both rapists and child molesters use less pornography than a control group of ?normal? males.
  • Now let?s look at attitudes towards women. Studies of men who had seen X-rated movies found that they were significantly more tolerant and accepting of women than those men who didn?t see those movies, and studies by other investigators?female as well as male?essentially found similarly that there was no detectable relationship between the amount of exposure to pornography and any measure of misogynist attitudes. No researcher or critic has found the opposite, that exposure to pornography?by any definition?has had a cause-and-effect relationship towards ill feelings or actions against women. No correlation has even been found between exposure to porn and calloused attitudes toward women.

Here's another one: http://healthland.time.com/2013/04/2...ously-thought/

And another: http://www.lehmiller.com/blog/2012/3...ove-lives.html

You won't read them of course, but the conflicting expert opinions and data are there, and that's not even scratching the surface of the number of links that just ONE google search turned up.

Keep talking Donny. Never listen. We're all just heathens here, right? Oh who am I kidding, you'll ignore this post like you conveniently flew by my earlier one. Good luck winning your debate.
Go to Google Scholar. ( http://scholar.google.com/ ) type in pornography or pornography studies. Hit enter. By the way, click this link, and if the results you get are the same as those showing on my screen right now, you'll see that what you quoted is refuted in just the first study. But, yes, I realize YOU will do exactly what you accuse me of doing: ignoring what you find or justifying it somehow by saying, "Yeah, but, this one says otherwise..."

Start your own research. Just do it.

Earlier this year, I wrote three research papers on the topic. I've seen both sides. The evidence that says porn harms FAR OUTWEIGHS any evidence to the contrary. Also, study how it impacts the brain. Note that in the studies I summarized for you above (which are only a few out of more than 80 that I used when writing my research papers), it was not a bunch of religious groups doing the research: it was doctors and scientists.

I didn't ignore your first post. The things I posted after it addressed much of it, even if I didn't single you out by writing your name into my comments.
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I have a daughter and she will never see the inside of a church because of you sadistic mind warping animals. You and your religion are disgusting.
To be consistent, you won't be taking her to the hospitals started by the church, either, right? And you'll prohibit her from ever benefiting from any church-founded charity, right? You realize that most hospitals and an overwhelming amount of charities have religious roots, right? And that an overwhelming percentage of Ivy League schools were started by religious groups? You knew that, didn't you? I guess your daughter won't be going to Yale or the like.

Again, where there are people, bad things will happen. That sucks.

Fact is, the Catholic church - not even counting any of the 40,000 other Protestant Christian denominations or the billions of people who follow other religions - is the single largest charity in the entire world.

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I shall search that when I am not on my mobile. So why the cover up by the church. All these animals and there are ALOT why are they protected by the pope and church.
The cover-up by the church goes back to confession and the nature of things that are revealed in the confessional, which is not something I expect you to comprehend, and which I will not get into due to that lack of comprehension. I definitely understand why it is so disappointing, however.
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Hey Grapesoda,

MaDalton's appreciation of juvenile humor kinda makes my point about the intellectual capacity of most of the board's readers, eh? "Nicely said"? If one and one's peers have the maturity level of the average third grader, perhaps.
I do appreciate some third graders humor from time to time, life is too short to be miserable all the time

besides that I haven't figured out yet whether you turned even more evil than us pornographers by doing a Steve Martin impression to take money from unsuspecting christians or if you really found "god" - which is usually at this stage in life a sign of serious mental health problems

either way - i wish you good luck - the earliest documented porn is like 7,000 years old and i am pretty sure it will survive you too
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dammit - i forgot - for you the world is only 6,000 years old and the humans were making out with dinosaurs - or something along those lines...
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"Start your own research"

See Donny? My point exactly. You presume I haven't done so. You respond with the assumption that everyone knows far less about the subject than you do. It's condescending like few other things are Donny. You forget, I'm the one who years prior to this was on here posting certain opinions about faith, evolution, Genesis, etc, opinions that you yourself adopted as your own. (back then you were much more open to listening, unlike now).

Such presumtion is part of your problem and what makes you appear as smug and, well, there's no other way to say it... a big fucking know-it-all, and those are triats that most people simply do not care for.

The fact is I've done plenty of study, on this, on faith, Christianity, as well as a long history of bible study. Unlike some I did not have a strict religious upbringing, I sought the knowlege on my own. And I've had many years longer than you to gather it.

The articles I quoted, and dozens upon dozens of others that I didn't, are all written by experts, doctors, professors, etc too. They refute everything you've posted. I don't suppose you included any of THEM in your research material while writing your papers, you know, for balance? Your overconfidence that you've got it all figured out tells me you didn't.

"I wrote three papers" --- if there wasn't a balance of information that supports both sides of the issue considered then how can an informed opinion be made? Without an informed opinion you could write a hundred papers and they wouldn't be worth the paper they're printed on.

Look, I get it, you're trying to help certain people. I can see that, but I can also see there is a better way than simply taking the easy path of blaming it on porn. You really want to help people? Try getting them to take responsibility for their own obsessions, lack of control in indulging their urges, and their own actions. Because like I said, porn isn't going anywhere. It's legal and protected under the 1st amendment in your country.

And I've read all that you've posted here Donny, and no, it hasn't dealt with most of the points I raised in my first long post. Perhaps you need to start your own research and reread it again? Seriously, I'd like to think there's hope for you Donny. But once you found your "preach" you seem to have lost the will or ability to listen. I'm sensing ego there, and it's replaced teachablity (which it often does, so don't feel bad, you're in huge company).

Knowledge is power Donny. Don't ever stop learning, but also don't let a biased agenda cloud perspective. The answers are out there for you, but they may not all be where you think they are.
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:26 PM   #142
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stop giving this guy the attention he so desperately craves.
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:29 PM   #143
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Go to Google Scholar. ( http://scholar.google.com/ ) type in pornography or pornography studies. Hit enter. By the way, click this link, and if the results you get are the same as those showing on my screen right now, you'll see that what you quoted is refuted in just the first study. But, yes, I realize YOU will do exactly what you accuse me of doing: ignoring what you find or justifying it somehow by saying, "Yeah, but, this one says otherwise..."

Start your own research. Just do it.

Earlier this year, I wrote three research papers on the topic. I've seen both sides. The evidence that says porn harms FAR OUTWEIGHS any evidence to the contrary. Also, study how it impacts the brain. Note that in the studies I summarized for you above (which are only a few out of more than 80 that I used when writing my research papers), it was not a bunch of religious groups doing the research: it was doctors and scientists.

I didn't ignore your first post. The things I posted after it addressed much of it, even if I didn't single you out by writing your name into my comments.
there are hundreds of studies about how prescription drugs harm the brain...how many are you on? what about the effects of the nitrates in all the hot dogs you eat? religion is a disease. one i hope will be wiped from the earth one day.
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:33 PM   #144
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To be consistent, you won't be taking her to the hospitals started by the church, either, right? And you'll prohibit her from ever benefiting from any church-founded charity, right? You realize that most hospitals and an overwhelming amount of charities have religious roots, right? And that an overwhelming percentage of Ivy League schools were started by religious groups? You knew that, didn't you? I guess your daughter won't be going to Yale or the like.

Again, where there are people, bad things will happen. That sucks.

Fact is, the Catholic church - not even counting any of the 40,000 other Protestant Christian denominations or the billions of people who follow other religions - is the single largest charity in the entire world.



The cover-up by the church goes back to confession and the nature of things that are revealed in the confessional, which is not something I expect you to comprehend, and which I will not get into due to that lack of comprehension. I definitely understand why it is so disappointing, however.
before is start ignoring you, i will just point out this very obvious fact, that all the 'good' done by the various religious organizations was not done out of the goodness of their heart. sure, some might of believed that but it was done to indoctrinate people. you want our help? believe in our god and donate to his good will. how very kind. they still do this in africa and other hellholes. want clean water? worship our god.
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there are hundreds of studies about how prescription drugs harm the brain...how many are you on? what about the effects of the nitrates in all the hot dogs you eat? religion is a disease. one i hope will be wiped from the earth one day.
Lots of things are bad. Here, we're discussing porn.

By the way: prescription drugs? Zero.
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before is start ignoring you, i will just point out this very obvious fact, that all the 'good' done by the various religious organizations was not done out of the goodness of their heart. sure, some might of believed that but it was done to indoctrinate people. you want our help? believe in our god and donate to his good will. how very kind. they still do this in africa and other hellholes. want clean water? worship our god.
Try thinking from the perspective of others. WHY did they want people to convert? Don't think from your angle. Pretend you're a missionary endangering your life to carry a message to people who might kill you. Why do you do that?

By the way, medical care didn't require conversion.

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It's easy to tell when a person hasn't done much Bible study. Do you think Jesus was some gentle man who was nice to everyone? He flipped tables, whipped people to get them out of the temple, and often let his disciples know when he thought they were being idiots. Read more of the source materials, Brian, rather than some summary by your favorite obscure author.
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Old 07-14-2014, 05:18 PM   #149
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Considering that around 100 pct. of men view hardcore pornography.

It's definitely a pity that many sex offenders don't, if they did - perhaps world would be a better place!

Last time I checked there is also a strong correlation between bigot Christian supressive upbringing and the occurence of sexual deviations among the adults. So your one hand clapping audience may as well be in average say 25 pct. closeted sex offenders.

I hope they have access to porn, otherwise it may end up full Vatican style, and that wouldn't be nice.

In fact I bet they get into the full jack off mode with the latest fresh of the bus multi-midget gagging porn anytime their prude spouse falls asleep, so she can re-enjoy her favorite dream getting gangbanged and receiving a bukkake of the year from a black pagan monstercock militia.
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Hey Grapesoda,

MaDalton's appreciation of juvenile humor kinda makes my point about the intellectual capacity of most of the board's readers, eh? "Nicely said"? If one and one's peers have the maturity level of the average third grader, perhaps.

But this does relate in a way to the discussion at hand: most male consumers of porn don't do much thinking, but instead react to instinct and emotions. The good news is that they simply haven't considered the bigger picture. Once they're given some data to consider, such as the info I and others present at our talks, many decide they can do without porn.

I'm not out attacking pornographers when I speak. In fact, things I've written and speeches I've given demonstrate that I am very much annoyed at those who try to go after any person in the adult biz. I'm out to educate consumers and change hearts about what porn really is. Progress is being made to reduce the demand using the same methods that made cigarettes less popular: by making it "uncool" to consume. Porn will never go away, but this approach is definitely growing in support.
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