Rant So after more than 8 years...

[suesheboy]

...of leaving most of my adult sites dormant I sat down to start updating my stuff to find:

More shut down or worthless programs than I can count.

Products I sold for years ($1,000 plus sex toys) no longer have affiliate programs because so many affiliates cheated)

Multi-tier affiliate programs (good ones too) took all the sales for themselves.

My best sex toys programs owner retired and sold his business to the least businesses like women whose web site doesn't work and wont return calls.

Can't wait to see what shit I will be dealing with when I go through all my porn sponsers....

[Dead]

Best of luck with the future Sueshe, the game has changed and the future.....well, we will see.

Dead AKA Asshole from the P City that once thrived.

[_Richard_]

[suesheboy]

Originally Posted by Dead

Dead AKA Asshole from the P City that once thrived.

Mainstream just blew adult out of the water for me and I am spending most of my time about 10 miles away form where you married your stunning wife.

[SexKey Scott]

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[Dead]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

Mainstream just blew adult out of the water for me and I am spending most of my time about 10 miles away form where you married your stunning wife.

Time has away of passing,....glad you took the time to remember. Those mountains are my only place to visit in the winter month
Nothing but good on you Suesheboy, you have been a constant in this trade, will miss the post.
stay true and Kynd

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

Mainstream just blew adult out of the water for me and I am spending most of my time about 10 miles away form where you married your stunning wife.

What types of things are you doing in mainstream?

8 years is a long time to leave anything dormant in the adult industry. I have to change sponsors after 6 months now-a-days and sometimes sooner. There are only a handful that are still around for me that were there since the start.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Sure it is not the competition?

http://www.amazon.com/Female-Stimula...words=sex+toys

[Tam]

I never left it, but lost all of my sites and I know what you mean - I am almost thinking that losing them saved me a mountain of editing and I just started all over - it seemed almost the best route with far less headaches - the industry has definitely changed - for some things better, for some not so good - but changes all the same... good luck on your new adventures into a crazy ride ahead. ;)

[suesheboy]

Originally Posted by mopek1

What types of things are you doing in mainstream?

Was concentrating on a few key clients in travel and distribution and let my own branding sit on a shelf.

Now I am stepping up my own branding again under the travel niche as well as breathing life back into adult - even if it is just to flip it and walk away.

What shocks me is how some of the leaders in this industry took such steps backwards or destroyed what was a great business.

I always have looked at long term trust, growth and reliability. Seems like these ideas are now obsolete.

Thinking back to about 12 years ago sitting in a hotel room party with Dead, Crow, Watsonian, Adam, Bad Dog, and a bunch of other from Porn City, I had no idea how far things would change. Everything I was doing then is now gone or changed completely.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

...of leaving most of my adult sites dormant I sat down to start updating my stuff to find:

More shut down or worthless programs than I can count.

Products I sold for years ($1,000 plus sex toys) no longer have affiliate programs because so many affiliates cheated)

Multi-tier affiliate programs (good ones too) took all the sales for themselves.

My best sex toys programs owner retired and sold his business to the least businesses like women whose web site doesn't work and wont return calls.

Can't wait to see what shit I will be dealing with when I go through all my porn sponsers....

So you ignore a business for 8 years and you are surprised that things have changed ?

[suesheboy]

Originally Posted by Tam

I never left it, but lost all of my sites and I know what you mean - I am almost thinking that losing them saved me a mountain of editing and I just started all over

Yesterday I went in removed virtually all my links and most of my pages on most sites. As far as I am concerned I am re-researching everything and starting from scratch - a lot wiser and with far better skills.

[suesheboy]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Sure it is not the competition?

http://www.amazon.com/Female-Stimula...words=sex+toys

No question the mainstream effect of toys hurt. So did the massive influx of cheap knockoffs driving down prices on high end goods.

The sad part is the extremely innovative new products I was expecting to see blow up or be invented, so far never happened.

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

Was concentrating on a few key clients in travel and distribution and let my own branding sit on a shelf.

Now I am stepping up my own branding again under the travel niche as well as breathing life back into adult - even if it is just to flip it and walk away.

What shocks me is how some of the leaders in this industry took such steps backwards or destroyed what was a great business.

I always have looked at long term trust, growth and reliability. Seems like these ideas are now obsolete.

Thinking back to about 12 years ago sitting in a hotel room party with Dead, Crow, Watsonian, Adam, Bad Dog, and a bunch of other from Porn City, I had no idea how far things would change. Everything I was doing then is now gone or changed completely.

Thanks for the reply. It's true that the industry went backwards and it is harder.

Good luck with your new adult sites.

[suesheboy]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Sure it is not the competition?

http://www.amazon.com/Female-Stimula...words=sex+toys

Review of this anal toy:


7 of 7 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Buyer be aware!!!
Low rating was due to packaging. Buyer be aware, the wand was as described, but the problem was that the description was also written on the address label for all to read, including the postman. I had assumed that some discretion would have been used when sending this product through the US postal system. I would not buy from this seller again.

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[xXXtesy10]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

No question the mainstream effect of toys hurt. So did the massive influx of cheap knockoffs driving down prices on high end goods.

The sad part is the extremely innovative new products I was expecting to see blow up or be invented, so far never happened.

Thought the FSC put a stop to this with their best practices seal

[Orgasmics]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

Thinking back to about 12 years ago sitting in a hotel room party with Dead, Crow, Watsonian, Adam, Bad Dog, and a bunch of other from Porn City, I had no idea how far things would change. Everything I was doing then is now gone or changed completely.

I miss those days!

Great to see you sueshe!!

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

What shocks me is how some of the leaders in this industry took such steps backwards or destroyed what was a great business.

Indeed. Few scumbags decided it is great idea to give away the product for free.
So that they could benefit they had to destroy all pay for porn model.
Fucking scum.

[CourtneyR]

if you need any adult dating/ cams sponsors feel free to hit me up.

[brassmonkey]

open a sushi stand

[~Ray]

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[atom]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

Thinking back to about 12 years ago sitting in a hotel room party with Dead, Crow, Watsonian, Adam, Bad Dog, and a bunch of other from Porn City, I had no idea how far things would change. Everything I was doing then is now gone or changed completely.

I often wonder what happened to wats and crow.

Good to hear you are making a go at it again. My Skype is in my sig if you ever need anything. Personal or business.

[~Ray]

pcbbs4L!!

[dicknipples]

Mainstream is definitely a lot better than the adult industry these days.

[Dead]

Originally Posted by atom

I often wonder what happened to wats and crow.

Good to hear you are making a go at it again. My Skype is in my sig if you ever need anything. Personal or business.

Surprised you have not heard from them, we wonder here as well. Knowing who I met, i am certain they are both living the good life! Crow has probably finished his plans for world domination! Hurry up Crow, we need a new leader.....

[The Porn Nerd]

So 'mainstream' can mean anything that is non-porn, right?

[GAMEFINEST]

Shit has changed for the worse, I mostly focused on mainstream and a very few adult sites that generate good traffic/sales.


good luck pimp!

[Tam]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

Yesterday I went in removed virtually all my links and most of my pages on most sites. As far as I am concerned I am re-researching everything and starting from scratch - a lot wiser and with far better skills.

I've done that a couple of times - I go back and look at some of the things I put up when I first started and I can't believe I was ever able to do anything, much less make a dime from it. lol