Quotes from Doctors

[wehateporn]

"The only safe vaccine is one that is never used."
Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National Institute of Health

"There are more quacks in the orthodox profession than there are outside its ranks."
Dr. J. P. Baldwin

"Disease is cured by the body itself, not by doctors or remedies."
John Harvey Kellogg, M.D.

"It took over three years of research before we looked at each other and said 'Vaccines are killing babies'."
Dr Viera Scheibner

"It is a well documented fact that the incidence and mortality from infectious diseases fell by 90% well before any vaccine was even introduced... So [the U.S.] mandated vaccination and it resulted in a three-fold increase in whooping cough..."
Dr Viera Scheibner

"Medicine is a great humbug:- doctors are merely quacks when they are not charlatans."
Dr. Magendie (The great French physician)

"We doctors have been talking this medicine stuff into the people till they believe it."
Dr. Schweningen (Physician to the late Prince Bismark)

"...So it was obvious that I, and every other doctor for that matter, had been grossly misled."
Dr Archie Kalokerinos

"...It was clearly shown that the only people who got smallpox TWICE were the vaccinated... You can be LOADED with antibodies and still get, even DIE from the disease..."
Dr Archie Kalokerinos

"When the AIDS epidemic started... antibodies, instead of meaning protection, meant that you were doomed. So this concept of antibodies that we were taught is wrong..."
Dr Archie Kalokerinos

"Our use of vaccines is not based on good science."
Dr Archie Kalokerinos

"Materia Medica is simply a list of drugs and poisons. They are all subversive of organic structure; all incompatible with vital functions; all are antagonistic to living matter; all produce disease."
Dr. R.T. Thrall

"Before he [Louis Pasteur - the 'father of modern medicine' and originator of the Germ Theory of disease] died, he changed his mind. He ended up saying it's not the germ, but the conditions within the body..."
Natural Health Lecturer: Ian Sinclair

"Nature alone can cure disease. Doctors cannot heal. They can only direct the sufferer back to the pathways of health. Nature alone can create, and healing is re-creation."
Dr. William S. Sadler

"...[my daughter's] symptoms were intensifying after each vaccine... So I wrote to the governments and got figures..." "I realised there was a lot of information that we were being told... which wasn't true..."
Dr Isaac Golden

"Ninety-nine out of a hundred medical facts are medical lies, and medical doctrines are, for the most part, stark, staring nonsense."
Dr. Gregory (Edinburgh)

"Babies are injected with bits of animal, bacteria, viral DNA. They can be incorporated into the human genome..."
Dr Peter Baratosy

"Why is it that only since the 40's have autism and brain damage come about? Because this was when immunisation was introduced to a large extent..."
Dr Peter Baratosy

"Vaccines are a billion dollar industry, and there are at least a billion good reasons there why it's continued."
Dr Peter Baratosy

"Nature is the curer of disease."
Hippocrates, (the father of medicine)

"Measles had been dying out in Europe, then they started vaccination and it rose again, and the thing that had cured measles was better nutrition programs..."
Independent Nurse Practitioner, LISTEN System Practitioner: Pauline Rose

"I am part of a profession that is systematically lying to people."
Dr Mark Donohoe

"This concept that vaccinated children are some kind of typhoid Mary is just rubbish. We now have a sicker group of children in the community."
Dr Mark Donohoe

"It may be that you only get one chance to make one big mistake... because of the number of people vaccinated if you introduce a pathogen... in a route that the body does not have a protection against."
Dr Mark Donohoe

"There are some doctors who disparagingly say 'There are some parents who think that just having a healthy child is good enough'. Well the truth is it IS good enough!"
Dr Mark Donohoe

"In general, civilization affords chances of misuse of our digestive organs, and it is this difference between natural and civilized living that causes all ill health. In a word these diseases are primarily related to what we call Constipation, the Universal Malady of Modern Times."
Dr. Paul M. Koonin.D.D.Sc

"The coincident abuse of irritant purgative drugs is an additional factor of considerable importance to the cause of colitis, rectal troubles, and ailments of the digestive tract which cause cancer."
Sir Arbuthnot Lane, Bart., M.D., F.R.S.

"They say openly in the [medical] legal system that if you advise against vaccination the A.M.A. will push to deregister."
Medical Doctor: Dr Robyn Cosford

"These are symptoms that if they were seen in a child who had not just been vaccinated, all us doctors would be a little concerned that this child perhaps had a type of viral meningitis. We wouldn't just sit back and say 'That's fine. Take some Panadol and it will go away,' "
Medical Doctor: Dr Robyn Cosford

"He is the best physician who knows the worthlessness of his own medicine."
PROFESSOR W. M. OSLER, Professor of Medicine, Oxford University

"The medical system Is a colossal deception that has filled the world with incurable invalids, of which mines have been emptied of cankering minerals, the intestines of animals taxed for their filth, the poison bags of reptiles drained of their venom, the blood of cats and dogs extracted, and all these with other abominations have been thrust down the throat of gullible human beings."
Dr. J. M. Good, M.D., F.R.S.

"We have no real proof of the boasted effectiveness of any form of anti-toxin or vaccine or serum... If such a vaccinated or immunised person contracts the disease which he is supposed to be protected, it is pretty good evidence that such "protection" is valueless, isn't it? Surely people do contract disease against which they are supposed to be immunised, as we all know.... Well, are you satisfied that WE ARE QUACKS? In the eyes of those who are willing to forgot the present prestige of medicine, such as it is, with all its dignity, its scientific jargon, its pratings of altruism, its great endowment, its well heralded "achievements," we are most assuredly quacks, professing to do things we cannot do, and yes, taking money under this pretence."
Dr. Paul M. Koonin, D.D.Sc.

"Unless the doctor of today becomes the dietitian of tomorrow, the dietitian of today will become the doctor of tomorrow."
Dr. ALEXIS CARROL. (Famous Biological Scientist and head of the Rockefellar Institute.)

"Fluorides are general protoplasmic poisons, probably because of their capacity to modify the metabolism of cells by changing the permeability of the cell membrane and by inhibiting certain enzyme systems. The exact mechanism of such actions is obscure."
Journal of the American Medical Association, Sept 18, 1943, Editorial.

"The plain fact that fluorine is an insidious poison, harmful, toxic and cumulative in its effects, even when ingested in minimal amounts, will remain unchanged no matter how many times it will be repeated in print that fluoridation of the water supply is 'safe'."
Ludwig Gross, M.D., former Chief of Veterans Administration Cancer Research, Bronx, NY.

"I have thought many times of all of the insane things we have advocated in medicine, that is one of the most insane - to insist on the vaccination of children, or anybody else, for the prevention of smallpox when, as a matter of fact, we are never able to prove that vaccination saved one man from smallpox."
USA 1937, Dr. William Hay in his address to the Medical Freedom Society on the Lemke bill to abolish compulsory vaccination

"Vaccination is a monstrosity, a misbegotten offspring of error and ignorance; it should have no place in either hygiene or medicine.... Believe not in vaccination, it is a world wide delusion, an unscientific practice, a fatal superstition with consequences measured today by tears and sorrow without end."
Charles Rauta, Professor of Hygiene and Material Medical in the University of Perguia, New York Journal of Medicine in July 1899

"Immunization against smallpox is more hazardous than the disease itself."
Professor Ari Zuckerman, a member of the World Health Organization advisory panel on viruses.

"It is now accepted that the risks of routine smallpox vaccination outweigh those of natural infection in Britain."
The British medical Journal in January 1976

"When the link between unsafe mercury laden vaccine and autism, ADHA, asthma, allergies and diabetes becomes undeniable, mainstream medicine will be sporting a huge, self inflicted and well deserved black eye. Then will come the billion dollar awards, by enraged juries, to the children and their families. I can't wait".
Dr. Rimland MD

"After a careful consideration of the history of vaccination gleaned from an impartial and comprehensive study of vital statistics, and pertinent data from every reliable source, and after an experience derived from having vaccinated 31,000 subjects, I am firmly convinced that vaccination cannot be shown to have any logical relation to the diminution of cases of smallpox. Vaccination does not protect, it actually renders its subjects more susceptible by depressing the vital power and diminishing the natural resistance, and millions of people have died of smallpox which they contracted after being vaccinated"
J.W. Hodge MD in his book "The Vaccination Superstition"

[sarettah]

Ok, now, why don't you pare that list down some for us and show us comments from actual MEDICAL doctors.

Now


Dr Viera Scheibner

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viera_Scheibner

Viera Scheibner was born in Bratislava (formerly Czechoslovakia, now Slovak Republic). During her career she wrote scientific papers on the subject of Geology and Palaeontology published in peer-reviewed journals in Australia and overseas.[8][not in citation given]

In 1953, Scheibner studied medicine for one year at Masaryk University in Brno (Faculty of Medicine). She did not complete her studies, and obtained no medical qualifications.

Since retiring from the Department of Mineral Resources, Scheibner has been active as an anti-vaccination campaigner, making numerous statements linking vaccinations to various conditions, injuries and deaths. Her claims have been widely criticised and refuted by medical professionals.

Viera Scheibner (Slovak: Viera Scheibnerová; born 27 March 1935, Bratislava) is a retired micropaleontologist. From 1958 until 1968 she was assistant professor in the department of geology at Comenius University, Bratislava. Scheibner has been active in the anti-vaccination field researching, writing and giving lectures on the subject matter of vaccines and vaccinations since her retirement from the Department of Mineral Resources, New South Wales, Australia in 1987.

A great number of doctors, scientists, legal professionals and other critics have questioned her qualifications, research abilities, and honesty.[2][3][4][5][6][7]

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Dr Viera Scheibner

That doesn't mean she's wrong

[Penny24Seven]

who cares what someone said 100 years ago.

[RebelR]

I agree that people are vaccinated way too often and like most other forms of medications they do come with risks and adverse side effects. But your quoted material? You include Harvey Kellog, who was a quack in his own right. As well as the "Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National Institute of Health" who apparently never existed, there was a James A. Shannon, but no quote attributed to that name.

[Choopa_Pardo]

I would like to see citations.

You know what vaccines eradicated? Polio.

Anti vaccs are the worst kind of people.

[aka123]

If you get quotes from every doctor ever lived, including "doctors", "doctor doctors" and couple "doctor whos", you can get quotes to match pretty much anything you want. If you want a statement about anal sex with aliens, I am sure that can be found.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

That doesn't mean she's wrong

what it does mean though, is it carries about as much weight as me saying:

drink vaccines for breakfast, they enable you to see through women's clothes

[shake]

Vaccines are probably still the greatest medical discovery to date.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by Jel

drink vaccines for breakfast, they enable you to see through women's clothes

Now you invented the next health hype to promote on porn sites: "Smallpox gets you going, perfect amino acid profile. And your dick grows too."

And of course an assuring statement from some doctor.

[Manfap]

Hey everybody take a look at me. Didn't come to until a quarter past three
Dr Feelgood

Sylvia's mother says, 'Sylvia's busy Too busy to come to the phone'
Dr Hook

The way I see it, if you're gonna build a time machine into a car, why not do it with some style?
Dr. Emmett Brown

[carpocratian]

You're quoting Kellogg??? Seriously???

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Choopa_Pardo

I would like to see citations.

You know what vaccines eradicated? Polio.

Anti vaccs are the worst kind of people.

Polio isn't eradicated by the way

Anti vaccs are thinking people who demand evidence, that is a good thing

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Jel

drink vaccines for breakfast, they enable you to see through women's clothes

It would be a lot safer to drink vaccines than to have them injected

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by shake

Vaccines are probably still the greatest medical discovery to date.

That's what the propaganda says, the reality is that they are the worst, sanitation and nutrition are the best!

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by Choopa_Pardo

I would like to see citations.

You know what vaccines eradicated? Polio.

Anti vaccs are the worst kind of people.

Wake up idiot. Polio hasn't gone anywhere. When the miracle vaccines don't work, (and worse, cause severe harm), they just rename the disease to make it appear as though it worked. Do some fricken research. http://vactruth.com/2012/04/25/chang...s-of-diseases/

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by RebelR

I agree that people are vaccinated way too often and like most other forms of medications they do come with risks and adverse side effects. But your quoted material? You include Harvey Kellog, who was a quack in his own right. As well as the "Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National Institute of Health" who apparently never existed, there was a James A. Shannon, but no quote attributed to that name.

Dr. James Shannon (1904-1994)
http://history.nih.gov/exhibits/bowman/BioShannon.htm

"served as director of NIH from 1955-1968."

[Amputate Your Head]

I was at the doctor yesterday. Regular checkup stuff.
While I was there, they tried to give me:
Flu shot
Pneumonia shot
Tetanus shot
Shingles shot
After I declined all of those, they asked if there were any shots I would like to get.
After telling them again, "No shots." they went straight into trying to prescribe me something. I'm not on any medications, and have no desire to be. My blood pressure is awesome, so they couldn't give me those... they asked if I was depressed, or anxious,.... nope. I mentioned that I sometimes get heartburn from drinking too much coffee, and they wanted to give me long-term acid reflux pills. I declined. Then out of the blue, they tried to give me thyroid pills. No. Then when there was nothing left, they wanted to prescribe some anti-smoking stuff. Again... no. I left with a clean bill of health, no shot, and no pills.

This is modern "medicine" today. Doctors are salesmen, and you are the mark.
You don't need this bullshit in your body. Eat right, take care of yourself, and live your life without doctors.

When he said he hadn't seen me in about 4 years, he asked "Who has been taking care of you?" I said.... Me.

[Lichen]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

"Disease is cured by the body itself, not by doctors or remedies."
John Harvey Kellogg, M.D.That doesn't mean she's wrong

What a load of leftist hippie shit.

Try getting infected with Polio and then let the body cure itself.

KEK.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

I was at the doctor yesterday. Regular checkup stuff.
While I was there, they tried to give me:
Flu shot
Pneumonia shot
Tetanus shot
Shingles shot
After I declined all of those, they asked if there were any shots I would like to get.
After telling them again, "No shots." they went straight into trying to prescribe me something. I'm not on any medications, and have no desire to be. My blood pressure is awesome, so they couldn't give me those... they asked if I was depressed, or anxious,.... nope. I mentioned that I sometimes get heartburn from drinking too much coffee, and they wanted to give me long-term acid reflux pills. I declined. Then out of the blue, they tried to give me thyroid pills. No. Then when there was nothing left, they wanted to prescribe some anti-smoking stuff. Again... no. I left with a clean bill of health, no shot, and no pills.

This is modern "medicine" today. Doctors are salesmen, and you are the mark.
You don't need this bullshit in your body. Eat right, take care of yourself, and live your life without doctors.

When he said he hadn't seen me in about 4 years, he asked "Who has been taking care of you?" I said.... Me.

Very scary, in 2014 the doctors is one of the most dangerous places to go

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Lichen

What a load of leftist hippie shit.

Try getting infected with Polio and then let the body cure itself.

KEK.

It does actually, the majority of people don't even know they've got Polio

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Wake up idiot. Polio hasn't gone anywhere. When the miracle vaccines don't work, (and worse, cause severe harm), they just rename the disease to make it appear as though it worked. Do some fricken research. http://vactruth.com/2012/04/25/chang...s-of-diseases/

That's a great article!

[CaptainHowdy]

Medicine = metaphysics ...

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by carpocratian

You're quoting Kellogg??? Seriously???

He was a medical doctor

[aka123]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

That's what the propaganda says, the reality is that they are the worst, sanitation and nutrition are the best!

Integral part of our immune system is that we or our ancestors have had some disease. Our immune system needs samples from outside threats to be most effective. Vaccines provide those samples in the safest available form when it comes to dangerous diseases. You cannot sanitize people well enough. And living in a very sanitized environment just makes you more vulnerable to diseases and you surely get bunch of allergies.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

It would be a lot safer to drink vaccines than to have them injected

it would be safer for all kids if they were each forced to drink vaccines 5 times a day

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by aka123

Integral part of our immune system is that we or our ancestors have had some disease.

Yes, we descend from the survivors, the weak did not survive, we have good immune systems naturally.

Originally Posted by aka123

Our immune system needs samples from outside threat to be most effective.

Yet we know that vaccine immunity doesn't last a lifetime, not normally even a decade, whereas catching an illness leaves us immune for life.

Originally Posted by aka123

Vaccines provide those samples in the safest available form when it comes to dangerous diseases.

It's not the virus in the vaccine which is the big problem, it's the extras thrown in e.g. Aluminum, Formaldehyde, Anti-Freeze etc. If there were a way of vaccinating without all that it might almost be worthwhile, though studies would be required, the type of studies they refuse to perform.

Originally Posted by aka123

You cannot sanitize people well enough. And living in a very sanitized environment just makes you more vulnerable to diseases and you surely get bunch of allergies.

Allergies are from vaccines, peanut allergies only started when Merck added peanut oil into their vaccines. Hay-fever is from the pollen in vaccines. Asthma is mainly from the DPT vaccine, it's caused by the yeast in vaccines. We are creating undesirable antibodies to the other components of vaccines, yet we are told to believe that it is only the virus part which we will create antibodies to.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Jel

it would be safer for all kids if they were each forced to drink vaccines 5 times a day

Do you work for the CDC?

If we drink a vaccine, at least we give our body a fair chance to flush it out, whereas when it's injected it bypasses our protective mechanisms, forcing our body into emergency defense mode, unfortunately by putting our body into a panic it increases the risk that things can go wrong e.g. highly profitable lifelong autoimmune diseases. (the real reason for these jabs)

[Jel]

Originally Posted by Manfap

Hey everybody take a look at me. Didn't come to until a quarter past three
Dr Feelgood

Sylvia's mother says, 'Sylvia's busy Too busy to come to the phone'
Dr Hook

The way I see it, if you're gonna build a time machine into a car, why not do it with some style?
Dr. Emmett Brown

[Jel]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

forcing our body into emergency defense mode

safer to go into a defense mode than not

[Jel]

"Fuck The Police"
Dr. Dre

[Jel]

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Do you work for the CDC?

If we drink a vaccine, at least we give our body a fair chance to flush it out, whereas when it's injected it bypasses our protective mechanisms, forcing our body into emergency defense mode, unfortunately by putting our body into a panic it increases the risk that things can go wrong e.g. highly profitable lifelong autoimmune diseases. (the real reason for these jabs)

you were vaccinated, are you full of disease?

[aka123]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Yes, we descend from the survivors, the weak did not survive, we have good immune systems naturally.

Yet we know that vaccine immunity doesn't last a lifetime, not normally even a decade, whereas catching an illness leaves us immune for life.

It's not the virus in the vaccine which is the big problem, it's the extras thrown in e.g. Aluminum, Formaldehyde, Anti-Freeze etc. If there were a way of vaccinating without all that it might almost be worthwhile, though studies would be required, the type of studies they refuse to perform.

Allergies are from vaccines, peanut allergies only started when Merck added peanut oil into their vaccines. Hay-fever is from the pollen in vaccines. Asthma is mainly from the DPT vaccine, it's caused by the yeast in vaccines. We are creating undesirable antibodies to the other components of vaccines, yet we are told to believe that it is only the virus part which we will create antibodies to.

I didn't refer just to surviving, having disease often leaves "marks" that are heritable. You will even herit to battle the conditions in which your parents and grandparents have lived.

Being immune to certain disease varies by disease to disease and that applies to vaccines as well. For example furher exposures may only result very mild disease, but you will still get it (no ultimate immunity).

Vaccines are not uniform regarding the extra stuff in them. There are a lot of different vaccines.

One thing is sure, allergies are not from vaccines. Allergies come from underexposure to diseases, so quite opposite what vaccination does. We normally have a shit load of parasites and diseases, but mainly parasites. When you live in a sanitized environment your immune systems makes up enemies because it has no real threats to battle with. Lack of parasites has been proved to increase allergies, as well as living in a very sterile envinronment. The average of different parasite species in humans is about 6 worldwide, but in developed countries it's just about 1-3. I am not telling to get parasites, but you might want to skip that "Anti-Bacteria Blast" solvent.

We create andibodies against the viruses because our immune system is "designed" to do so. But exposure to food is totally normally and thus well working immune system doesn't create antibodies against food. There are "emphasizers" in vaccines to create stronger response, but the vaccine doesn't create response, our body does. You can compare it to eating food with bacteria and viruses, our body attacks against the bacteria and viruses, not food.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

"The only safe vaccine is one that is never used."
Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National Institute of Health

"There are more quacks in the orthodox profession than there are outside its ranks."
Dr. J. P. Baldwin

"Disease is cured by the body itself, not by doctors or remedies."
John Harvey Kellogg, M.D.

"It took over three years of research before we looked at each other and said 'Vaccines are killing babies'."
Dr Viera Scheibner

"It is a well documented fact that the incidence and mortality from infectious diseases fell by 90% well before any vaccine was even introduced... So [the U.S.] mandated vaccination and it resulted in a three-fold increase in whooping cough..."
Dr Viera Scheibner

"Medicine is a great humbug:- doctors are merely quacks when they are not charlatans."
Dr. Magendie (The great French physician)

"We doctors have been talking this medicine stuff into the people till they believe it."
Dr. Schweningen (Physician to the late Prince Bismark)

"...So it was obvious that I, and every other doctor for that matter, had been grossly misled."
Dr Archie Kalokerinos

"...It was clearly shown that the only people who got smallpox TWICE were the vaccinated... You can be LOADED with antibodies and still get, even DIE from the disease..."
Dr Archie Kalokerinos

"When the AIDS epidemic started... antibodies, instead of meaning protection, meant that you were doomed. So this concept of antibodies that we were taught is wrong..."
Dr Archie Kalokerinos

"Our use of vaccines is not based on good science."
Dr Archie Kalokerinos

"Materia Medica is simply a list of drugs and poisons. They are all subversive of organic structure; all incompatible with vital functions; all are antagonistic to living matter; all produce disease."
Dr. R.T. Thrall

"Before he [Louis Pasteur - the 'father of modern medicine' and originator of the Germ Theory of disease] died, he changed his mind. He ended up saying it's not the germ, but the conditions within the body..."
Natural Health Lecturer: Ian Sinclair

"Nature alone can cure disease. Doctors cannot heal. They can only direct the sufferer back to the pathways of health. Nature alone can create, and healing is re-creation."
Dr. William S. Sadler

"...[my daughter's] symptoms were intensifying after each vaccine... So I wrote to the governments and got figures..." "I realised there was a lot of information that we were being told... which wasn't true..."
Dr Isaac Golden

"Ninety-nine out of a hundred medical facts are medical lies, and medical doctrines are, for the most part, stark, staring nonsense."
Dr. Gregory (Edinburgh)

"Babies are injected with bits of animal, bacteria, viral DNA. They can be incorporated into the human genome..."
Dr Peter Baratosy

"Why is it that only since the 40's have autism and brain damage come about? Because this was when immunisation was introduced to a large extent..."
Dr Peter Baratosy

"Vaccines are a billion dollar industry, and there are at least a billion good reasons there why it's continued."
Dr Peter Baratosy

"Nature is the curer of disease."
Hippocrates, (the father of medicine)

"Measles had been dying out in Europe, then they started vaccination and it rose again, and the thing that had cured measles was better nutrition programs..."
Independent Nurse Practitioner, LISTEN System Practitioner: Pauline Rose

"I am part of a profession that is systematically lying to people."
Dr Mark Donohoe

"This concept that vaccinated children are some kind of typhoid Mary is just rubbish. We now have a sicker group of children in the community."
Dr Mark Donohoe

"It may be that you only get one chance to make one big mistake... because of the number of people vaccinated if you introduce a pathogen... in a route that the body does not have a protection against."
Dr Mark Donohoe

"There are some doctors who disparagingly say 'There are some parents who think that just having a healthy child is good enough'. Well the truth is it IS good enough!"
Dr Mark Donohoe

"In general, civilization affords chances of misuse of our digestive organs, and it is this difference between natural and civilized living that causes all ill health. In a word these diseases are primarily related to what we call Constipation, the Universal Malady of Modern Times."
Dr. Paul M. Koonin.D.D.Sc

"The coincident abuse of irritant purgative drugs is an additional factor of considerable importance to the cause of colitis, rectal troubles, and ailments of the digestive tract which cause cancer."
Sir Arbuthnot Lane, Bart., M.D., F.R.S.

"They say openly in the [medical] legal system that if you advise against vaccination the A.M.A. will push to deregister."
Medical Doctor: Dr Robyn Cosford

"These are symptoms that if they were seen in a child who had not just been vaccinated, all us doctors would be a little concerned that this child perhaps had a type of viral meningitis. We wouldn't just sit back and say 'That's fine. Take some Panadol and it will go away,' "
Medical Doctor: Dr Robyn Cosford

"He is the best physician who knows the worthlessness of his own medicine."
PROFESSOR W. M. OSLER, Professor of Medicine, Oxford University

"The medical system Is a colossal deception that has filled the world with incurable invalids, of which mines have been emptied of cankering minerals, the intestines of animals taxed for their filth, the poison bags of reptiles drained of their venom, the blood of cats and dogs extracted, and all these with other abominations have been thrust down the throat of gullible human beings."
Dr. J. M. Good, M.D., F.R.S.

"We have no real proof of the boasted effectiveness of any form of anti-toxin or vaccine or serum... If such a vaccinated or immunised person contracts the disease which he is supposed to be protected, it is pretty good evidence that such "protection" is valueless, isn't it? Surely people do contract disease against which they are supposed to be immunised, as we all know.... Well, are you satisfied that WE ARE QUACKS? In the eyes of those who are willing to forgot the present prestige of medicine, such as it is, with all its dignity, its scientific jargon, its pratings of altruism, its great endowment, its well heralded ..........................................
...

Update : After one of them came down with small pox at a medical convention they all took the vaccine before leaving the convention.

[mikesouth]

Dr. Gregory House: [examining a baby whose mother isn't vaccinating him because she feels it's a scam; House takes the child's stuffed frog] All natural, no dyes. That's a good business - all-natural children's toys. Those toy companies, they don't arbitrarily mark up their frogs. They don't lie about how much they spend on research and development. And the worst that a toy company can be accused of is making a really boring frog. Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit. You know another really good business? Teeny tiny baby coffins. You can get them in frog green, fire engine red. Really. The antibodies in yummy mummy only protect the kid for six months, which is why these companies think they can gouge you. They think that you'll spend whatever they ask to keep your kid alive. Want to change things? Prove them wrong. A few hundred parents like you decide they'd rather let their kid die then cough up 40 bucks for a vaccination, believe me, prices will drop *really* fast. Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit, gribbit, gribbit.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Dr. Gregory House: [examining a baby whose mother isn't vaccinating him because she feels it's a scam; House takes the child's stuffed frog] All natural, no dyes. That's a good business - all-natural children's toys. Those toy companies, they don't arbitrarily mark up their frogs. They don't lie about how much they spend on research and development. And the worst that a toy company can be accused of is making a really boring frog. Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit. You know another really good business? Teeny tiny baby coffins. You can get them in frog green, fire engine red. Really. The antibodies in yummy mummy only protect the kid for six months, which is why these companies think they can gouge you. They think that you'll spend whatever they ask to keep your kid alive. Want to change things? Prove them wrong. A few hundred parents like you decide they'd rather let their kid die then cough up 40 bucks for a vaccination, believe me, prices will drop *really* fast. Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit, gribbit, gribbit.

Television is propaganda.

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Originally Posted by Jel

safer to go into a defense mode than not

In a natural scenario yes e.g. fell, cut skin, immune response required for any random crap which got in, whereas if we force an artificial scenario then it's an unnecessary risk to run

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Originally Posted by Jel

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

you were vaccinated, are you full of disease?

Each vaccine is a lottery ticket, the prizes are diseases, not everyone wins one. Fortunately when I was young in the UK not many vaccines were required, I got away with it, my big sister didn't.

[Jel]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

then it's an unnecessary risk to run

less risky to run from a risk than risking an unnecessary risk by not running

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Originally Posted by aka123

I didn't refer just to surviving, having disease often leaves "marks" that are heritable. You will even herit to battle the conditions in which your parents and grandparents have lived.

So we don't need vaccines, our genes are good enough already thanks to our forefathers

Originally Posted by aka123

Being immune to certain disease varies by disease to disease and that applies to vaccines as well. For example furher exposures may only result very mild disease, but you will still get it (no ultimate immunity).

So the vaccine immunity doesn't last a lifetime, it's definitely not going to be passed down to the children, whereas natural immunity from catching a disease does last, this means that a child who has been breast-fed by their mother will only have mild reactions to the childhood diseases which she had. Breast-feeding is what we need to push, not vaccination.

Originally Posted by aka123

Vaccines are not uniform regarding the extra stuff in them. There are a lot of different vaccines.

Correct!

Originally Posted by aka123

One thing is sure, allergies are not from vaccines. Allergies come from underexposure to diseases, so quite opposite what vaccination does.

Every vaccination will produce allergy antibodies. This is a medically recognized risk of vaccination. Big Pharma did a study on why unvaccinated people out in the countryside didn't have allergies, they came up with the false conclusion that it was because they play in the mud, that is to cover up the true story of the fact that tinkering with the immune system leaves presents behind, so hence unvaccinated do not have allergies to common vaccine components such as peanut oil, pollen and yeast.

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Originally Posted by Jel

less risky to run from a risk than risking an unnecessary risk by not running

If you are healthy and well-nourished there is no risk of childhood disease, whereas every vaccine comes with a risk

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Update : After one of them came down with small pox at a medical convention they all took the vaccine before leaving the convention.

Not a wise move, a highly dangerous vaccine

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Dr. Gregory House: [examining a baby whose mother isn't vaccinating him because she feels it's a scam

This mother has educated herself, probably a doctor or researcher

Originally Posted by mikesouth

House takes the child's stuffed frog] All natural, no dyes. That's a good business - all-natural children's toys.

Yes indeed, the mother is educated on safe toys as well as dangerous vaccines

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Those toy companies, they don't arbitrarily mark up their frogs. They don't lie about how much they spend on research and development. And the worst that a toy company can be accused of is making a really boring frog. Gribbit, gribbit, gribbit.

They could also make a dangerous through, with choking hazard parts (eyes, buttons etc), so House is wrong.

Originally Posted by mikesouth

You know another really good business? Teeny tiny baby coffins.

Yes, that's going to be a good business, especially with the US having the worst infant mortality in the first world, they also give the most vaccines in the first world, the less vaccines a first world nation gives the better their infant mortality. So the more vaccines the better the baby coffins will sell. Crib death is from the DPT vaccine.

Originally Posted by mikesouth

The antibodies in yummy mummy only protect the kid for six months, which is why these companies think they can gouge you.

Or however long she breast feeds, some mothers breastfeed for years.

Originally Posted by mikesouth

They think that you'll spend whatever they ask to keep your kid alive.

Spend on healthy food yes, but vaccines to keep a healthy kid alive? That's silly! That's just Big Pharma propaganda, good health doesn't come from a needle.

Originally Posted by mikesouth

A few hundred parents like you decide they'd rather let their kid die then cough up 40 bucks for a vaccination

No, it's not about money, we don't avoid vaccines to save 40 bucks. It's about the fact that the vaccines are dangerous and start up highly profitable lifelong diseases, making the pharmaceuticals tens of thousands of $'s over your child's life. e.g Diabetes Type 1

[Jel]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

If you are healthy and well-nourished there is no risk of childhood disease

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Originally Posted by Jel

Which specific mild childhood illnesses would you be concerned about?

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Why do people that are clearly not qualified to talk about such things speak about them so confidently?

Someone that my family knows decided not to vaccinate her children. She thinks she knows better than my uncle who is actually a doctor. Not only has he commented that it is a mistake from a physical health point of view, her children are barred from going to school because they are not vaccinated.

[dichotomy]

Wrong Doctor... (Who?)
I think best quotes (n scary shit) from The Doctor :D are here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb_KCmkTgNA

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Originally Posted by VamosNicholas

Why do people that are clearly not qualified to talk about such things speak about them so confidently?

The average doctor knows very little about vaccines, they are simply at the mercy of the multinational corporations. Here's one doctor who decided to spend time on the topic, she soon turned against vaccination.

Originally Posted by VamosNicholas

Someone that my family knows decided not to vaccinate her children. She thinks she knows better than my uncle who is actually a doctor.

She does know better than him, he's just put his trust in his training, he's too busy to look into the topic and go through the studies.

Originally Posted by VamosNicholas

Not only has he commented that it is a mistake from a physical health point of view, her children are barred from going to school because they are not vaccinated.

He's just a pharmaceutical salesman even if he doesn't know it yet. There are vaccine exemptions available in all areas, but still not going to school would be better than being poisoned