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Old 07-18-2014, 04:02 PM   #1
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Authorities in Florida are reportedly investigating a traffic stop that led to a scuffle between a Miami cop and -- unbeknownst to him at the time -- a higher ranking officer in his department.

According to Miami's Local10.com, Miami police officer Marcel Jackson pulled over David Ramras last month at the intersection of Flagler Street and 18th Avenue in Miami. The stop was captured

on video by Jackson's personal GoPro camera.

The video, a copy of which was obtained by Crespogram.com, shows Jackson approach the driver's side door of Ramras' vehicle. Moments later, the two men get into a scuffle and Jackson can be seen forcing Ramras to the ground.

Multiple officers responded to the scene and separated the two men, at which time Jackson and Ramras can be heard on video exchanging words with each other.

"Do you know who the f--k I am?" Ramras asked.

"No, I don't," Jackson replied.

It was then revealed to Jackson that Ramras is a lieutenant in the Miami Police Department's Internal Affairs Unit.

Audio of Jackson is later captured on the video. He can heard telling someone on his phone why he stopped Ramras.

"You know, I was actually on my way to a call," Jackson can heard saying. "The only reason I stopped him is because he approached a pedestrian. He was flying, so I pulled him over."

Jackson said Ramras was uncooperative and had attempted to exit the vehicle, prompting his take-down of the lieutenant.

According to Nbcmiami.com, Jackson has been relieved of duty, with pay and Ramras has been reassigned to a special investigations unit.

Javier Ortiz, president of the Fraternal Order of Police, told Local10.com Monday that he was on scene shortly after the incident occurred.

"I believe that Officer Jackson was acting in good faith when he pulled over Lt. Ramras," Ortiz said. "Once the contact was made between the officer and the lieutenant, that's where things get sketchy."

Ortiz added, "Only time will tell once the investigation plays out who was in the right and who was in the wrong."

Also on Monday, Jackson's attorney, Scott Srebnick, sent a letter to the Miami Police Department, asking the agency to recuse itself from the case.

"Fairness and the appearance of fairness require that this matter be assigned to another law enforcement agency for investigation," reads the letter, according to Nbcmiami.com.

"The fact that the internal investigation is apparently being handled by ? the Special Investigations Section provides me no additional comfort given Lt. Ramras's high-ranking position in the [police department]," the letter continued.
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Old 07-18-2014, 04:31 PM   #2
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Old 07-18-2014, 04:36 PM   #3
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Cops should know better than to get out of the car.
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Old 07-18-2014, 04:42 PM   #5
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That fat old lazy cop should get a ticket like everyone else
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Old 07-18-2014, 04:43 PM   #6
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i don't even understand why they let him reach back into the car
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Old 07-18-2014, 04:47 PM   #9
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Proof that cops are people too (driving less than perfect, doing dumb things), EXCEPT for where they apparently judge him not quite so guilty by laying off him after they know he's another cop. Anyone else might be happy to just be alive in light of recent similar videos.
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Looks like the LT didn't like taking orders so he got out the car like a mad man and got what he deserved.
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i don't even understand why they let him reach back into the car
because they knew then that he was going to put the pain on employment that one looks like he's running away
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I'm sorry Miss Jackson.... Whoooooooo!
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This is the only way things will ever get changed.

If the cops start getting hassled, then they are going to want to fix things...

I know how naive that sounds, wishful thinking.

Sounds like the cop was in the wrong, old mate is yelling how he showed him ID.
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What does (relieved of duty) mean? Did he get fired? or suspended?
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What does (relieved of duty) mean? Did he get fired? or suspended?
time off with or without pay? ill guess with
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Never try to get out of your vehicle on a traffic stop. The Lt. knew better. Miami is a rough and busy place.
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No surprise here..hope the cop gets what he deserves..
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Lt was lucky Jackson wasn't a K-9 officer. The dog wouldn't have given a fuck who he was either.
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The officer isn't wearing a mic so it's hard to say what happened. Perhaps the LT was pissed off and started to get out of the car in what looked like a threatening manner.
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So....... why does the cop get preferential treatment????? If that was you or I we'd get the fucking shit pounded out of us, then carted off to jail with much phoney paperwork to back the cop up.
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dude if he brought that dogg out he would be in real trouble. has to be felony level dogg
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some yeah i thank god they are stupid or else...
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Would it be the end of the world to give the cops credit for a quick response?
They would probably look bad on the video tape just scratching their ass while another
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US police are so extremely worked up, it's the opposite of here, must be fucking annoying to get pulled over by these weird hyper authority types. Then again anyone could carry a gun there, so must be a nice fucking stressful job.
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Would it be the end of the world to give the cops credit for a quick response?
They would probably look bad on the video tape just scratching their ass while another
cop rolled on the ground with a suspect.

come on though, 4 cars??!!

how would you feel if you or a member of your family needed police assistance that arrived too late, and you found out the reason for that was because 4 vehicles were at the scene of 1 guy and a traffic stop?

I get that you can't foresee everything, and in hindsight you can always say 'what if', but 4 fucking cars for 1 suspect? lol, please...
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So....... why does the cop get preferential treatment????? If that was you or I we'd get the fucking shit pounded out of us, then carted off to jail with much phoney paperwork to back the cop up.
as much as I can't stand the old bill, that's just a job perk. Fair play to them for that, though at least more people are seeing that the boys in blue aren't as angelic as they may have thought.

ps what a misleading thread title... the black copper did fuck all wrong
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Oh look, no matter where you are on the Internet there are idiotic apologists for pigs.

Even if this were one of the few places where it is illegal to get out of your car your commen says that it would be OK to treat non police like this.

It's not.
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anybody else notice how fast the other cars got there? he ran the plate something bigger is here. this is some kind of internal war
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something is not right! as soon as he opened that door they swarmed!
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something is not right! as soon as he opened that door they swarmed!
I attribute that to the fact that you do not know nearly as much as you think you do.
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Jackson has been relieved of duty, with pay bullshit
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Oh look, no matter where you are on the Internet there are idiotic apologists for pigs.

Even if this were one of the few places where it is illegal to get out of your car your commen says that it would be OK to treat non police like this.

It's not.
You hate pigs and have no objectivity. You're an idiot.

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Cops here in Miami are like rabid dogs. They even turn on themselves. Best to stay out of their way and keep your mouth shut. It won't stop a beating, but if it is videoed you will come off better. Fuck cops.
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anybody else notice how fast the other cars got there? he ran the plate something bigger is here. this is some kind of internal war
Yeah @ :55 Ramras opens the door @ 1:03 the first backup car arrives.

8 second response time for backup



I think this second recording from his GoPro sheds more light on the story



This is the FULL VIDEO from beginning to end, very telling



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