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Old 07-21-2014, 11:02 AM   #51
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Ukraine hasn?t said how it immediately knew rebels downed Malaysian plane, notes the Russian Foreign Ministry, as it unveils 10 awkward questions for Ukraine (and perhaps the US 'snap judgment') to answer about the MH17 disaster. However, what is perhaps more concerning for the hordes of finger-pointers is that:

RUSSIA HAS IMAGES OF UKRAINE DEPLOYING BUK ROCKETS IN EAST: IFX
RUSSIA: UKRAINE MOVED BUK NEAR REBELS IN DONETSK JULY 17: IFX
RUSSIA DETECTED UKRAINIAN FIGHTER JET PICK UP SPEED TOWARD MH17

Obviously, if there is proof that this is so, aside from CIA-created YouTube clips, these would deal another unpleasant blow to US foreign policy.

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Umm it's pretty easy to know how Ukraine knew it was the Rebels. It was because the Rebels boasted about shooting down a military transport plane and named the location where it crashed on VK.com

They told the world they did it and bragged about it before it was even news to the world. Then they discovered it was civilian, at which point they started trying to cover it up and started playing the blame game.

Fuck even Putin was trying to feed you conspiracy tools, when he said the bodies had been dead before the plane was shot down..

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Old 07-21-2014, 11:05 AM   #52
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Why Russia and not Mozambique? Maybe because Russia is massing it's forces on Ukraine's border and Mozambique isn't.

Maybe because Russia belongs to Russians and they army can do whatever they want in own country? Or you think someone should tell them what to do in own country ?
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:13 AM   #53
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Everything doesn't focus on money. There isn't need for profit. I already shared the main reason and it is Russian leaders own personal want's and goals.
Did you say personal goals? So which ones?

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And the BUKs aren't supposed to protect from Russian invasion, they are just one weapon in the arsenal. And they will offer protection as does any AA system. End result is unknown.
Everything which is "aren't supposed to" must be evacuated from a war zone or destroyed, because otherwise it will be captured by your enemy. Do you have any military education? At least a basic one? Just curious...
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:27 AM   #54
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Did you say personal goals? So which ones?
Let's start with the lust for power, "Putin the Great".

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Everything which is "aren't supposed to" must be evacuated from a war zone or destroyed, because otherwise it will be captured by your enemy. Do you have any military education? At least a basic one? Just curious...
I have been in military service and I am a group leader, closest equivalent is probably sergeant (in US military).

I can say that the outcome is not predetermined. Outcome is not quaranteed in any ways, you just fight and kill enemies and maybe it turns out okay, maybe doesn't. There might be strategic and tactical withdrawals, but at some point you have to fight, despite of the outcome, because you can't know it beforehand.
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:27 AM   #55
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because otherwise it will be captured by your enemy. Do you have any military education? At least a basic one? Just curious...
there is an easy answer for ALL your objections: "anyway it's the ukrainian army"
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