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Robbie

Name one Republican pornographer. I don't know any.

There may be some guys around here who aren't really in the porn biz but are on the fringes (pay processors, affiliates who have never even set foot on a set, etc.)...but actual pornographers who are Republicans?

I'd like to know who they are.

But again...what does a discussion of global warming have to do with Republicans? Is it because a lot of Republican politicians get their money from Big Oil?
That makes sense.

But just like Democrat politicians get their money from green energy groups...it doesn't mean that actual CITIZENS who identify themselves as Dems or Republicans believe the same thing as the crooks in Washington D.C. who call themselves Republicans and Democrats.

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johnny o

"But just like Democrat politicians get their money from green energy groups."

because everyone knows solar power is where all the old money in this country is?

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Robbie

What's "old money" have to do with anything? Brother the REAL money is in federal dollars. The govt. is giving tons of money to "research" green energy and that money doesn't come right back to the politicians who funneled it in the first place.

Just like with Solyndra. My thoughts on that one was why in the hell did they just hand them money instead of HIRING them to start installing solar panels on every federal building in the country?

The only answer I can come up with is: nobody in Washington D.C. really gives a shit about "global warming" and they are only interested in power and money.

Anyway, you seem to be pretty hostile about things and I've had enough of that shit from assholes that I don't even know on GFY. So I'm just gonna say: I don't want to argue with you. If you don't think something's a little bit off about the whole thing, that's your right.
Me? I don't trust ANY career/lifetime bureaucrat living in Washington D.C. and spending other people's money.

I'm a little jaded. lol

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SuckOnThis

Ever heard of a guy named Nicola Tesla? Greatest inventor of the 20th century and some think more intelligent than Einstein. Scraped by his whole life and died broke in a NY hotel. But in your mind someone like Sarah Palin is more intelligent because she knows how to make a buck from fools like you.

Robbie

I think grapesoda is probably referring to people with pretty high intelligence not people who are eccentric geniuses with the inability to function in society.

And I'm pretty sure that Tesla wasn't on the same level as Einstein.

He was in head to head competition and feuding with Thomas Edison.

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johnny o

it's always a classy move to attack someone personally, then to bring up their alleged income. then making a stretch of an argument that if someone isn't making enough money, in your eyes, their opinion is worthless. a true sign of your character. karma's a bitch BM. sleep tight.

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mopek1

While everyone argues about this the fact remains that nobody here is a climatologist and so none of us can properly evaluate the data.

There are hundreds of studies both for an against and none of us here is equipped to process them all and form an accurate opinion.

So we have to look at other factors.

1. Hundreds of scientists around the world consistently say it's true vs a smaller few who say it's not true. (So I would tend to believe the majority)

2- Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and Big Oil say it's a hoax. (Now I believe it even more)

3- Carbon taxing is talked about by governments as a way to fix the problem. (Don't like this at all and will NOT vote for any party who endorses this).

So I believe it, and would love to be proven wrong.

Grapesoda

I hate to be the one to break this to you... I don't personally know Tesla, or Palin, and my understanding is Tesla was committed by his family for claiming he could transmit voices through the air and he died broke because Edison was able to beat his biz model out...

Grapesoda

I do believe global warming is a 'political hoax' to get money ... if you follow societal change though history you'll see many climate changes and the results of climate change... a very simple change to note is the Vikings going to vineland...colony dies because the earth cooled off and made living there unfeasible

actually bet that wasn't caused by man.

Grapesoda

Robbie I would say I'm much more conservative than many, but am I a republican? never gave it much thought... won't vote for Hillary tell you that much..

Grapesoda

you've called everyone an asshole that won't accept your views on life so I pointed out that possibly you have a very limited, stilled understanding of reality... maybe you might want to keep your negative uniformed, misguided, manipulated opinions to your self? or at least stop the name calling and blaming those that do disagree with you

Grapesoda

100's of scientist all agreed in the 1800's, that if you went faster than 35 mph in a train the air would be sucked out and everyone would suffocate

SuckOnThis

Your understanding of Tesla is like your understanding of everything else....completely innaccurate.

Tesla was never committed, he didnt have a family.

The voices he claimed he could transmit through the air was a little known invention called radio.

Edison didnt beat out his business model, he stole many of Tesla's ideas and took credit for them including the AC motor and AC current technology. Tesla didnt have a business model, his concern was his contributions to mankind, not how much money he could accumulate.

dyna mo

typical global warming elitist hypocrite bullshit.

The funny thing is somehow you thing you're immune, that the beach cities will be underwater or some nonsense yet you'll still be perched on your soapbox, high above the rest of us and all the pollution you yourself spew.


You global alarmists need only look at this thread for the reason(s) why you all fail at getting more people on your team.

Grapesoda

Tesla was the fourth of five children. He had an older brother named Dane and three sisters, Milka, Angelina and Marica (I'm gonna take a wild guess and assume he had parents as well)

and I'm gonna go with 'he stole many of Tesla's ideas and took credit for them including the AC motor and AC current technology' as beating his biz model as well.. I'm such a wild guy... I know...now pls explain the lizard people to me...

SuckOnThis

What do lizard people have to do with your delusional thinking that the inventor of radio was committed for 'hearing voices in the air'?

_Richard_

did edison even have a business model? i thought all that was jp morgan and co

johnny o

hey brian, since personal attacks are on the table. let's go head to head for a photography skill/style contest. we'll let the viewers decide. i'll go first.

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Robbie

This is kinda like the pornographers version of a "dance off"

I can dig it! Stop fighting and post some hot pics. And that one's pretty damn good.

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Grapesoda

Johnny I shoot specifically for 1 client, have spent years learning to do that style... doesn't mean I personally like it, it means I shoot what I'm paid to... I got the idea from a client that asked me if I wanted to be popular on an internet forum or make money... guess what I chose?

I do like Jay Allen's work and Dean's.... in fact Dean and I have had extensive conversation about work, shooting styles and client needs and expectations.... for instance the image you posted I find it to have blown skin tones, to be OOF with bad skin tone.... while the 'emotion' is possibly there I could NOT sell that image... so what do you want from me?

... this is what I'm paid to shoot...

Grapesoda

johnny o

here's one that was published in Perfection magazine. the editor's didn't think it was too blown out, they loved it actually. post your tear sheets.

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johnny o

you should try blurring the background a bit, being able to read your teenage posters on the wall is a bit distracting. dean will vouch for that one.

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johnny o

brian, if i apply your logic, and judgement, someone with your skill level of photography shouldn't post here because you clearly have some improving to do.

johnny o

if you don't know the difference between old money and nouveau riche, then i can't help you. p.s. it's significant. i'm not looking to argue either, just pointing out that why not take a few simple precautions now rather than it being "too late". cheers.

here's a pic for ya to show you i'm not hostile

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crockett

No Robbie.. You have brought up no new data.. You claimed that the ocean was sucking up all the excess co2. That was your big proof..


I however showed you how scientists had already debunked your NEW data.. And that the ocean was only sucking up 20 to 30% at best. Leaving the bulk of the co2 in the air.

The second thing that was brought up by another gfy member to further debunk your big break through. Was the fact the the co2 the ocean is absorbing is already causing problems as it's increasing the ocean acidification and also creating unwanted plankton that eats up the food resources of the more desirable plankton.. Meaning even if the ocean was sucking up 80% it would mean we are fucked.

You ignore these findings and keep harping on and on about how nothing is wrong because the ocean is sucking up all the co2 in Robbie's magical world of unicorns, rainbows and robbisms..

It's just the same shit on a different day with you as you just say the same debunked shit over and over like a broken record trying to pretend it's new and exciting and anyone that doesn't drink the Robbism koolaide is always wrong..

It's just like when I showed you that Obamacare has expanded insurance coverage and is benefiting people rather than your theories that everyone hates it and less people are insured. I gave you black and white proof and I get you anything you will repeat the same lies in the next topic next week.

_Richard_

candle27scents

I live in the West coast & we have zero water left!! People call whites racist when we don't want 10 million other people using our resources, but then you have Dems yelling about global warming & saying we need to change. Funny world we live in

Grapesoda

see what I mean about your thought process being suspect? did you NOT understand or chose not to understand so you try and belittle me?

Johnny I shoot at f16 because that's what I'm asked to do... you might want to try doing what your told sometime.. ? just sayin you know?

BTW I do what I'm told to do BECAUSE IT'S MY JOB, in fact it's my job that I use to support my child and grandson... how the fuck about that..... unh?

so once you can figure out how to make your way in the world like a grown man.. I'll be wiling to listen to your theories that you have based on your experience...

Grapesoda

okay Johnny I give up... you are a total bass ass mother fucking shooter... ... whoa!

..............oh yeah.. I forgot why you aren't shooting for babes.com again??? slipped my mind ... help me out will ya?

Grapesoda

you had better jump the fuck up and sell that guy a bunch more... that's what I would do if I was in your position

johnny o

please post all your PUBLISHED work brian. you're a bitter guy face it. you attacked me personally first, remeber?

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mopek1

I'm glad you brought this up.

I too believe that the Earth has had many climate changes throughout it's history.

But guess what?

It is climatologists who discovered this through study. And you believe them.

It is these same climatologists who are telling you now that this present warming is caused by man and now you don't believe them. Why?

Why would they all be in bed with those creating the money making scam? I mean ALL of them?

Grapesoda

you're kidding right? shot for websites since that day I learned to shoot .. you should hook up with Paul Markem if you want to talk about the gory days shooting for magazines, because that ain't me....

Grapesoda

not so sure it is the 'same climatologists'... on all the shows and articles I watched and read with climatologist not one has ever said a darn thing about global warming

johnny o

playboy playmate and penthouse pet victoria zdrok from ULTRA magazine.

anyone digging this PHOTO contest? i'll post more if you want.

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mopek1

I only listen to climatologists on global warming. Not governments, talk show hosts, think tanks, blogs, etc...

johnny o

brian, since you're a cunt hair away from being the next helmut newton, please critique away here.

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johnny o

tricia wilds from Perfection magazine.

oh, and i will tell you ALL, repeat ALL of my models come out without getting paid. they come shoot with me because they like my work (including Dita). the published models all got paid once anything gets into a hard copy mag or client website.

i'm still waiting for you to post a 2nd shot. i thought we were doing a "shot for shot" deal?

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johnny o

linda tran from ULTRA magazine.

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johnny o

so ATK hairy trumps hard copy magazines?

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EonBlue

The problem we have today is climatologists trying to predict the future based on faulty data and faulty models. We should listen to paleoclimatologists who specialize in the climate of the past. For example:

Prepare for new Ice Age now says Top Paleoclimatologist


During the last interglacial, the Eemian, it was warmer than it is today and sea level was far higher than now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eemian

So everything that alarmists are crying about now has happened before, to greater extremes than now, without human influence yet we are are supposed to kneecap civilization and spend trillions of dollars trying to stop something that is going to occur naturally anyways?

It just doesn't make any sense.


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johnny o

brian, you can't take the heat? busy shooting? at a SAMY's camera workshop?

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mopek1

Why are you so sure the models they use are faulty?

And why are you so sure that the paleoclimatologists are right?

Robbie

As I understand it (I first heard this from a scientist who was a guest on Bill Maher's show on HBO)...the Earth is adapting in several ways (as it always has). The way I've been talking about is the fact that the ocean is now absorbing CO2 at a higher rate.

That...all by itself makes the data that global warming scientists created their computer models and projections on...WRONG.

Another tidbit from the ocean...plankton are apparently taking care of a big amount of CO2 as well.

There's several other smaller things happening too.

But obviously if you thought that there was going to be "X" amount of CO2...and nature has changed that by a pretty measurable percentage...then all of the computer models will be thrown off.

It's pretty interesting and of course makes perfect sense.

As they say: G.I.G.O. "Garbage In, Garbage Out"

And no, I don't mean that the original data was really "garbage". But it is wrong.

I believe this is the same thing that has made all the climate projections over the last 50 years keep coming out wrong.

The Earth is fluid. And it changes. The data they use is static and can't compensate for the Earth adapting.

I think that's also the point of the emails. The scientists who are funded by companies with major interest in there BEING global warming can't risk losing their money.
The emails suggest that they might not be shouting to the world about the changes that the new data makes to the OLD computer models from over a decade ago.

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Sooner the end of the world the sooner the Earth can repair itself.

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The models are faulty because they all failed to predict the current 17+ years of no warming despite increasing CO2 levels. All of the models were created with the assumption that the atmosphere was very sensitive to increased CO2, that man is responsible for all of that increased CO2 and that CO2 is the main driver of warming. There are many variables that the models fail to account for like solar influences, cloud cover, water vapour and negative feedbacks. In the end the atmosphere is just way too complex to model. It's a classic case of GIGO - garbage in, garbage out.

The paleoclimatologists are right because they get to make actual observations of things like the fossil record, sedimentary deposits, geologic formations and ice cores to infer what the past climate was like. Paleoclimatology is a far more established science than current climate forecasting is.

dyna mo

Current climatology can't even get the local weather right 10 days from now but they are 100% right, don't ask any questions, about the entire global climate 10 years from now.



Right.

Alesulx

Carl Sagan said it`s real, his wife, Seth MacFarlane and Neil deGrasse Tyson made Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey witch even talks about Global warming. These are all brilliant people, if you know how to recognize the potential in people.