9 year old's & Firearms. - Page 4 - GoFuckYourself.com

DAMNMAN · 08-27-2014, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123

Not really. The school program doesn't take that into account and the kid does "re-learn" the stuff again. So, the kid can use that time to be kid, instead of learning to read, and to learn to read when everybody else does. Also, I am not that competition spirit kind of guy, that I would start to develop some special skill related advantages for very young child. This is more mommy and daddy related issue, than child related. I have already pet, I am not going to turn my hopefully future to be childs to be one.

OMFG, and you call me a kook?

My kid was learning as much as he wanted and we provided every assistance since the day he could sit up and watch a baby Einstein video. It was easy for him and it was fun and he has developed far in advance of the other kids his age. Never pushed him, but gave him all the learning tools and learning toys and good schools. He also has been training Brazilian jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai since age 5, learned to shoot bb guns and bow and arrow by 9, he is 13 and is proficient with a 22LR. I'd like to think that he is prepared for most problems he may encounter.

I hope he never needs to use his martial skills to defend himself, I hope he never needs to use his skills with weapons either. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't have tought him these things.

The world is full of assholes and stupid people in large groups!!!!!

RyuLion · 08-27-2014, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

I grew up with guns in the house. I was taught the safe handling of firearms at an early age and those lessons stayed with me. I was also taught the safe handling of power tools, cars, swimming in water, etc.... All of these lessons were for my safety.

I"m not sure why people from other countries, that have TONS of problems of their own, are so fixated and fascinated by what happens in the USA. Since you don't like the rights that we have here in the US, I would suggest that you thank goodness you don't have to live here, and then just carry on with your day, happy and relieved!

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DAMNMAN · 08-27-2014, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by vendzilla

fuck you are an idiot!

My daughter has always read above the grade level, has always excelled above the other children in the class because she was given a love for books at an early age. She had plenty of time to be a kid, she had a pony, well she actually had two. She rode in parades. She had a better childhood than most and you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. She grew a garden, she went camping, she shot guns with her daddy, she rode in hot rods, she learned to weld with an arc welder at age 12. I guess your parents let the tv raise you, shows in your ignorant comments

do the world a favor and don't have any off spring

nice!!!!!

DAMNMAN · 08-27-2014, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123

Don't you understand? If you have guns in your house, you have to say something about those even before you teach the kids to shoot, etc. And usually the guns purpose is explained together with "Don't touch them". And I still suggest using airguns to teach kids to shoot (and involve gun safety with the shooting).

Squad is a military unit. Here, learn some.

"In military terminology, a squad is a small military unit led by a non-commissioned officer (NCO)[1] that is subordinate to an infantry platoon."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squad

You can read my industry role from the left.

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Ever heard of a gun safe?

Also.... no better way to teach gun safety than to let the kid see what a gun will do. Way before they ever get to hold it. Exposure to the firearm safety and firearms prior to the kid holding the gun.

Knowing whether or not you kid is an idiot helps too.

DAMNMAN · 08-27-2014, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

1. It readies your child for kindergarten.

Fact: Forty-three percent of children in America are not school ready when they enter kindergarten. Yet, children who get early literacy exposure with positive speech interactions have a 32-million-word advantage by age four over children who did not get this exposure. Teaching reading to preschoolers and being ready for kindergarten can be accomplished easily and informally with a little literacy activity each day in short durations.

2. It alleviates worries about reading disability later on.
Fact: Neuroscientists tell us that the preschool brain is malleable and more likely to reorganize dysfunctional or dyslexic reading circuitry if we intervene early. Early intervention starts at home. You should be your child's first reading teacher for this reason alone.

3. It makes learning to read easier for your child.
Fact: Picking up reading in babyhood and toddlerhood is easy; learning to read at age 6 from formal instruction in school is hard work. Babies and toddlers can learn to read as easily and informally during a critical period of brain development from birth to age 4 as they can easily pick up fluency in two complicated languages, say, Mandarin and English, during this same time.

4. It feeds a hungry brain.
Fact: A baby's brain will triple in size during the first year of life. Reading aloud and talking to your child feeds the child's brain 10 million words of raw data each year in the first three years of life, and enables their neural pathways to develop in different ways. A multisensory flash-word technique, or labeling objects and reading-around-the-room, can start as early as 3 or 4 months of age, during the brain's height of plasticity and synaptic formation. Such activities flex your child's mental muscles by feeding word traces into his brain, impacting both brain growth and cognitive development.

5. It engenders multisensory creative development and love for reading.
Fact: At the same time you are stimulating her speaking and reinforcing specific neural pathways that link sound and meaning, reading aloud and talking to your child feeds the baby's natural curiosity and helps develop right-brain creativity. By giving your baby opportunities to engage in listening, viewing, exploring with her mouth (cloth and board books), touching, and movement activities related to books and reading, it becomes a creative activity that engages both the creative and verbal sides of the brain. It also instills positive attitudes about books and jumpstarts the beginnings of a love for life-long reading.

6. It helps your child pick up phonics.
Fact: Tacit knowledge of phonics rules are hallmarks of toddler readers. They can't deliberately articulate the rules of phonics, but 2- and 3-year-olds can intuit phonics and exhibit the ability to decode and read words they have never seen in print. They cannot learn to do this through the kind of formal instruction used in school. They likely use special right-brain learning capacities and pick up phonics and word-pattern recognition just like they pick up multiple languages during this period. They lose these special brain capacities by age 6.

7. It helps your child pick up grammar.
Fact: Research shows that children stimulated with informal literacy activities can learn the basic rules of grammar for speech production by age 2. Tacit knowledge of grammar rules when learning to speak works similarly to a baby's and toddler's tacit use of phonics rules when learning to read. They can't articulate the rules of grammar, but babies and toddlers certainly use the rules of grammar in speech production.

8. It makes your child smarter.
Fact: If you read aloud to your child, and later allow your 3-, 4- , or 5-year-old child to choose books with interesting content and read them independently, he or she will grow in intelligence. Reading and being read to enables 2- and 3-year-olds to use complicated sentences, manage memory of distant events, build general knowledge, access new information, and develop powers of reflection. Reading stimulates language and vocabulary development, which is highly correlated with measures of intelligence. A 5-year-old reader acquires new knowledge from reading while a 5-year-old nonreader can only admire the pictures.

9. It helps build better schools.
Fact: Four out of 10 American 8-year-olds cannot read proficiently. For the first time in history, the current generation will be less well educated than their parents. The achievement gap in American schools starts before children enter kindergarten. Teach your child to read before he or she goes to school, encourage your neighbors to do the same, and you'll help fix a fledgling system that is currently in jeopardy.

10. It creates a beautiful legacy with a little time and effort.
Fact: The requirements of baby/toddler reading are simple: reading aloud routinely, friendly and fun verbal interaction, personal contact, and about 5 minutes/day of word play. Do this in the first three or four years of your child's life and you will raise a reader. It will have a powerful impact on your child's future behavior. You will feel good about giving your child the gift of reading, you'll be remembered fondly for this gift, and it will likely be passed on to your children's children when your own children continue the tradition or when you continue the practice as a grandparent

The proof of these things is for me in my own child and his friends. Amazing Kids and all started reading early. The human brain is like a sponge in the early years to 5 why waste this time?

DAMNMAN · 08-27-2014, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by danielpbarron

I am in favor of nuclear-weapon dispensing vending machines to which children of any age have access.

READ "The coming race" By Bulwer "Lord" Lyton.

Once of age all adults get what amounts to an A-BOMB. So everybody can destroy the entire race at any time.
Makes for very nice an friendly encounters and no arguments whatsoever!!!!

DAMNMAN · 08-27-2014, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus

Are you seriously proposing we teach sex education to children 9 and under?

NO That ain't what he was saying!!!! He's using the logic to show you guys how stupid you are.

DAMNMAN · 08-27-2014, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123

Can you put this "obvious advantage" into words? As we are talking about reading and writing.

The obvious advantage is that we don't want our children to be like you!!!!

DAMNMAN · 08-27-2014, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lezinterracial

Read another story that said she lost control while shooting a full auto uzi.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0GQ23820140826

I remember a story of a kid shooting himself in the head with a full auto uzi a while back.

I have never shot a full auto myself.

Full auto Uzi and kids, not a wonderful idea unless you are in Israel etc....... (Or in Africa and be needin' some hellraizin' little bastards to overthrow the current dictator. So you can replace him.)

Gotta know your kids if you start goin' full auto. I am an advocate for second amendment and gun rights and I would wait on the full auto. (That doesn't mean that I would force others to wait, they can decide for themselves!!!!!! SEE HOW THAT WORKS?)

DAMNMAN · 08-27-2014, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Here are some facts,

AKA123 doesn't know shit about the subject and feels it's ok to be an asshole but demand decorum when answering him, he's a troll

Crockett full of shit, or Crockett science.

People have been teaching their children to shoot firearms since they were invented, if your child is not ready at the age of 8, you have already failed as a parent.

You don't put an automatic weapon in the hands of a 9 year old.

If you are teaching anyone to use an automatic weapon, you put 3 rounds max in the magazine and see how they do, then 3 again. Slowly putting in more. The range teacher was an idiot and paid the price. I watched the video on the news, he was an idiot for putting more than 3 rounds in the firearm, you don't do that at any age!

Perfectly said!!! I have seen many full auto runaways in my day. Only 3 rounds even for strong adults because nobody expects what they get when they squeeze that trigger.

Nurgle · 08-27-2014, 08:14 PM

every child in the US needs an uzi. Have to help Darwin get back on track

DAMNMAN · 08-27-2014, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus

You failed history and you're an Alex Jones kook.

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/13...s-the-gun-nuts

Contrary to what your one article posts, I have read extensively the documents form the Magna Carta to the federalist papers. I am absolutely certain of the intentions of the founders of the USA.
You on the other hand are a second hand expert, instead of reading the bible for yourself you let your minister translate it for you and now you have a skewed version.

BTW, I am sorry that I had to use the most vile, heinous and fictitious documents in history (The Bible) to make a point about the fine documents that make up the U.S Constitution.....

danielpbarron · 08-27-2014, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Just because you gave your daughter a gun and taught her to shoot doesn't mean its right. Guns are dangerous and the laws are lopsided. A kid can't learn to drive until they are at least 16. Why should a kid be allowed to shoot a gun before they are 16?

Because it's none of your business; that's why. Clearly your children aren't allowed to shoot guns before they are 16, but you've got some nerve acting like this rule can be legitimately enforced against unwilling participants.

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Vendzilla no one is trolling you. People are just expressing their opinions, and you are getting all bent out of shape about it. As much as you love guns, others thing guns are wrong and unnecessary. Many gun lovers have been scared into buying guns with the usual right wing scare tactics. I don't know if you are one of them but sometimes you sound like it.

You are wrong and unnecessary. If guns aren't necessary, then why is there such a high demand for them? I don't know how you think anti-gun laws are supposed to be enforced.

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Why not either accept the idea that guns can kill and that maybe children should not be allowed to use them, or, provide a good answer why you think they should.

Obviously guns kill -- that's the point. The "good answer" is "because I said so."

aka123 · 08-28-2014, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN

What country are you fucking from bro? It's a two party dictatorship. They both serve themselves and the corporate masters, the same masters.

This is the only message from your answers to what I am going to answer. I am from a country where people even somewhat read other's messages before posting a reply.

"Haven't you guys heard about voting? And I don't mean just choosing between republicans and democrats. It's like voting between king and queen (and they are married, you know)."

robwod · 08-28-2014, 04:40 AM

I'm a Canadian and I have guns, several of them. I also have a high end gun safe mounted on concrete. My grandfather and father taught me to shoot pellet guns when I was 9, first .177 and then .22 calibers. They also taught me how to fish, how to track, how to ride a motorcycle, safe operation of a boat, etc.

At nearly 50yrs old now, I look back and appreciate being taught safe operation, handling, and storage at an early age. And that goes for all of the things they taught me.

There is no substitute for common sense and responsible ownership, be it a gun, a knife, a car, a boat, or whatever.

The real tragedy here is that anytime a fatal, completely avoidable accident involving a firearm occurs, it is used ad nauseum to fuel an agenda. This tragedy was the result of carelessness and complete irresponsibility. And you simply cannot regulate stupidity.

2MuchMark · 08-28-2014, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by danielpbarron

Because it's none of your business; that's why. Clearly your children aren't allowed to shoot guns before they are 16, but you've got some nerve acting like this rule can be legitimately enforced against unwilling participants.

You are wrong and unnecessary. If guns aren't necessary, then why is there such a high demand for them? I don't know how you think anti-gun laws are supposed to be enforced.

Obviously guns kill -- that's the point. The "good answer" is "because I said so."

"If guns aren't necessary, then why is there such a high demand for them?" is exactly my point. There is high demand for guns in the US because of the incredible sales campaign going on, and most people don't even seem to realize it.

Lots of people buy guns because they are being SOLD. This is exactly my point. People are being SOLD guns with basic ideas like "There is crime on every corner, and you can be next", and "Protect your family", and "You're a patriot if you buy guns".

People are also being sold guns in other ways too. "You are NOT a patriot unless you buy guns", and that if you don't exercise your 2nd amendment rights, you will lose the 2nd amendment rights.

Every time there has been a mass shooting, the NRA swoops into town and holds a gun rally. Why? Because scared people buy guns. Some poor town just had a tragedy and some kids got killed and parents are scared, freaked out, and want revenge. So Wayne Lapierre (and before him Charlton Heston) walk in to your devastated town and say "Hey! Sorry for your loss blah blah blah, buy more guns, thank you and goodnight!"

The reason for all of my opinions is that clearly the current state of gun laws in the US do not seem to be working.

Wouldn't you say that there seems to be way too much gun crime in the US? Why do you think this is?

I'm not trying to fight or argue with you so don't take my tone the wrong way. I'm just wondering if a solution can ever be found.

danielpbarron · 08-28-2014, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

Lots of people buy guns because they are being SOLD. This is exactly my point. People are being SOLD guns with basic ideas like "There is crime on every corner, and you can be next", and "Protect your family", and "You're a patriot if you buy guns".

Well.. there is crime all over the place. I'm sure a lot of people just buy guns to fit in or prove some point, but there are many more who just want to protect themselves. It doesn't matter what their reason is; it's still none of your business. You keep insisting that you get a "good reason." You aren't owed a good reason. You have no right to stand in between your neighbor and his personal preferences.

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Every time there has been a mass shooting, the NRA swoops into town and holds a gun rally. Why? Because scared people buy guns. Some poor town just had a tragedy and some kids got killed and parents are scared, freaked out, and want revenge. So Wayne Lapierre (and before him Charlton Heston) walk in to your devastated town and say "Hey! Sorry for your loss blah blah blah, buy more guns, thank you and goodnight!"

Sure, the NRA sucks; I'm not defending that stupid gun-hating organization (they support background checks).

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The reason for all of my opinions is that clearly the current state of gun laws in the US do not seem to be working.

What is the purpose of the gun laws? They always get pitched as a safety concern, but who's safety? It's the state's safety. The government doesn't want its tax-slaves to be able to defend themselves. It's funny; you think the pro-gun folk are drinking the kool-aid, but it's clearly your ilk that drank deeply.

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Wouldn't you say that there seems to be way too much gun crime in the US? Why do you think this is?

No, I wouldn't. I much prefer the occasional shooting to a constant state of thievery and assault. The idiots in your gun-hating camp don't seem to realize that there are other crimes besides the gun-related kind. If you disarm your neighbors, they will be less capable to defend themselves against burglars and creeps. And if you think that's what the police are for, consider this: the supreme court ruled that the government has no obligation to protect you. The police are strictly law enforcers; not peace keepers. They look for violations; not victims. If they respond to a home invasion, it's not to save the victims; it's to arrest the criminals, and they can do that regardless of the victim's safety.

Atticus · 08-28-2014, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by danielpbarron

Sure, the NRA sucks; I'm not defending that stupid gun-hating organization (they support background checks).

What is the purpose of the gun laws? They always get pitched as a safety concern, but who's safety? It's the state's safety. The government doesn't want its tax-slaves to be able to defend themselves. It's funny; you think the pro-gun folk are drinking the kool-aid, but it's clearly your ilk that drank deeply.

Exhibit A.

danielpbarron · 08-28-2014, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Atticus

Exhibit A.

Exactly. You don't have a working brain, or else you would use it to formulate a proper rebuttal. Instead, you rely on group-think. Do you think my ideas will become magically falsified if enough users respond to your cry for "help?"

_Richard_ · 08-28-2014, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by robwod

I'm a Canadian and I have guns, several of them. I also have a high end gun safe mounted on concrete. My grandfather and father taught me to shoot pellet guns when I was 9, first .177 and then .22 calibers. They also taught me how to fish, how to track, how to ride a motorcycle, safe operation of a boat, etc.

At nearly 50yrs old now, I look back and appreciate being taught safe operation, handling, and storage at an early age. And that goes for all of the things they taught me.

There is no substitute for common sense and responsible ownership, be it a gun, a knife, a car, a boat, or whatever.

The real tragedy here is that anytime a fatal, completely avoidable accident involving a firearm occurs, it is used ad nauseum to fuel an agenda. This tragedy was the result of carelessness and complete irresponsibility. And you simply cannot regulate stupidity.

much the same story here, in canada. and definitely agree.

Rochard · 08-28-2014, 09:43 AM

Yeah, I was taught to fire weapons when I was a kid too. But they didn't do it on a fucking machine gun, which very few nine year old kids can handle. I learned with a small .22.

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Originally Posted by danielpbarron

Well.. there is crime all over the place.

No, there isn't. Violent crime has been dropping for some time now.

Directly form the FBI:

Atticus · 08-28-2014, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by danielpbarron

Exactly. You don't have a working brain, or else you would use it to formulate a proper rebuttal. Instead, you rely on group-think. Do you think my ideas will become magically falsified if enough users respond to your cry for "help?"

It's a giant waste of time to discuss anything with you. You're fanatical and deranged. Anyone who thinks the NRA is a 'gun hating organization' and that gun safety laws are in place to protect the government from it's 'tax slaves' is the exact same person who shouldn't be allowed to have any guns. Let alone the arsenal I'm sure you possess.

2MuchMark · 08-28-2014, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by danielpbarron

Well.. there is crime all over the place.

In 2013, Guns killed 10,950 people (30 per day) in the United States : http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...n-control-push

There will always be accidents and violence, but its sad to realize that it is so high.

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Originally Posted by danielpbarron

I'm sure a lot of people just buy guns to fit in or prove some point, but there are many more who just want to protect themselves.

Of course, and there is nothing wrong with this. My point not that people should be allowed to buy guns. My points (there are just a few), (a) that the laws should be tougher, (b) tougher laws should not scare law abiding people, (c) The NRA is irresponsible, and (d) to realize that scared people buying guns makes more scared people buy more guns, which is exactly what gun companies and the NRA want.

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Originally Posted by danielpbarron

It doesn't matter what their reason is; it's still none of your business. You keep insisting that you get a "good reason." You aren't owed a good reason. You have no right to stand in between your neighbor and his personal preferences.

It is my business here on a public forum where we are discussing an issue that affects both Americans like you and Canadians like me. It's my business if my neighbour was a criminal or psycho and is still allowed to own guns. It's my business if the gun range down the street lets a skinny kid fire an automatic weapon.

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Originally Posted by danielpbarron

Sure, the NRA sucks; I'm not defending that stupid gun-hating organization (they support background checks).

I support background checks. Why should a criminal in your neighbourhood be allowed to own a gun? What if he's on meds to control his temper? What if his Bi-Polar? What if he forgets to take his meds and start shooting up your house?

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Originally Posted by danielpbarron

What is the purpose of the gun laws? They always get pitched as a safety concern, but who's safety? It's the state's safety. The government doesn't want its tax-slaves to be able to defend themselves. It's funny; you think the pro-gun folk are drinking the kool-aid, but it's clearly your ilk that drank deeply.

Wow. Man that is sad.... dude seriously. If thats really the way you think then there's no way we can continue this debate.

danielpbarron · 08-28-2014, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Atticus

It's a giant waste of time to discuss anything with you. You're fanatical and deranged. Anyone who thinks the NRA is a 'gun hating organization' and that gun safety laws are in place to protect the government from it's 'tax slaves' is the exact same person who shouldn't be allowed to have any guns. Let alone the arsenal I'm sure you possess.

Allowed by whom? It's none of your business! You speak as though you have some authority to implement these arbitrary rules. You think it's a waste of time discussing anything with me? Compare our replies; I am using sound reasoning and you are trying to invoke an emotional response. It's a waste of time because you don't actually want to discuss the issue; you want to fit in with your peer group.

danielpbarron · 08-28-2014, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

It is my business here on a public forum where we are discussing an issue that affects both Americans like you and Canadians like me. It's my business if my neighbour was a criminal or psycho and is still allowed to own guns. It's my business if the gun range down the street lets a skinny kid fire an automatic weapon.

Sure, you can say what you like; if that's all you want then I don't care what dumb ideas you hold. But that's not the case. You want this to go beyond the forum. You want men with guns to lock your neighbor in a cage if he violates the arbitrary rules your group-think peers have concocted. Why should you care if a gun-range "down the street" lets a dumb kid fire a gun? How does that threaten your safety? It isn't your kid; it isn't your business. If your neighbor is a sketchy creep.. move! Or arm yourself; install video cameras and motion sensors. You aren't entitled to live in a world were these things aren't necessary. I know it's a stark contrast to the America-of-the-mind you wish existed but never has. The cold, hard reality has always been that nice things need protection, and only the owner of the thing can properly protect it. The state doesn't care about your stuff (except when it comes to confiscating it).

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I support background checks. Why should a criminal in your neighbourhood be allowed to own a gun? What if he's on meds to control his temper? What if his Bi-Polar? What if he forgets to take his meds and start shooting up your house?

Why should he not be allowed is the better question. I mean, allowed by whom? Who is going to enforce your ideas? What if your crazy neighbor doesn't comply? I'd much rather everyone have guns (including the few nut-jobs) than only the state having guns (or boot-lickers like you).

What if someone illegally gets a gun? I mean if we're gonna throw around scary what-ifs, surely you can't leave out this one. The rules you want to impose are impotent; criminals don't follow rules (be definition!). What is worse: your crazy neighbor openly caries guns (you know the risk level) -- or, your seemingly normal neighbor secretly has an illegal cache of weapons (an unknown risk). But you don't consider things like this; it's called critical thinking, and your degenerate mind can't do it anymore. I mean that literally; your mind is physically altered to the point where you cannot rationally consider options.

Seth Manson · 08-28-2014, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

In 2013, Guns killed 10,950 people (30 per day) in the United States : http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...n-control-push

There will always be accidents and violence, but its sad to realize that it is so high.

30 out of 314,000,000

Mark, why dont you break that down into a ratio for us webmasters? We like ratios.

Vendzilla · 08-28-2014, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Violent crime has been dropping for some time now.

Because gun sales are up!

Vendzilla · 08-28-2014, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN

Perfectly said!!! I have seen many full auto runaways in my day. Only 3 rounds even for strong adults because nobody expects what they get when they squeeze that trigger.

I've never seen an auto run-away, but have always treated any firearm like the worse can happen. I have a scar on my forehead from the scope of a 30.06 that I shot at the age of 12. Damn that thing kicked. I have had the breach of a 410 shot gun open on me during fire and burn my face a little. Can barely see either of these now.

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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN

The proof of these things is for me in my own child and his friends. Amazing Kids and all started reading early. The human brain is like a sponge in the early years to 5 why waste this time?

I took a psychology in high school and spent a lot of time on child development, and backed up on this talking with my daughter who has a degree in anthropology that the years of 1 thru 7 are key in development of the personality of a child.

People that think to put limits on what can be taught to children are basically saying you can't do that to them. I was raised to believe there is nothing I can't do. How would you raise your child? Mine at 26 is a veteran and has seen a big chunk of the world, she has a degree and is genuinely happy. Can many 26 year olds feel like that is their case? She believes there is nothing she can't do, because those limits were never placed on her.

Anyone that believes that their child can't achieve big goals are limiting their kids and should walk to the other end of that firing range IMHO

Atticus · 08-28-2014, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I took a psychology in high school and spent a lot of time on child development

Im sorry, I didn't realize we were talking with an expert. My deepest apologies.

I don't think anyone disagreed with you about teaching your child to read before pre-school. The absurdity came from your insinuation that you're a bad parent if your child doesn't know how to read at the age of 3. If your child shows an interest and wants to learn, by all means don't discourage it. However children learn at different paces. And no studies (to my knowledge) have shown that a child being proficient in reading before pre-school is any more advanced then a child learning to read during pre-school.

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Anyone that believes that their child can't achieve big goals are limiting their kids and should walk to the other end of that firing range IMHO

And again, good lord you are a rage filled individual.

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robwod Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,539	I'm a Canadian and I have guns, several of them. I also have a high end gun safe mounted on concrete. My grandfather and father taught me to shoot pellet guns when I was 9, first .177 and then .22 calibers. They also taught me how to fish, how to track, how to ride a motorcycle, safe operation of a boat, etc. At nearly 50yrs old now, I look back and appreciate being taught safe operation, handling, and storage at an early age. And that goes for all of the things they taught me. There is no substitute for common sense and responsible ownership, be it a gun, a knife, a car, a boat, or whatever. The real tragedy here is that anytime a fatal, completely avoidable accident involving a firearm occurs, it is used ad nauseum to fuel an agenda. This tragedy was the result of carelessness and complete irresponsibility. And you simply cannot regulate stupidity. __________________ NSFW Last edited by robwod; 08-28-2014 at 04:46 AM..