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Old 09-04-2014, 04:06 PM   #1
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Drought apocalypse begins in California as wells run dry


"Water wells in central California have begun to run dry, reports the LA Times. "Extreme drought conditions have become so harsh for the Central Valley community of East Porterville [that] many of its residents dependent on their own wells have run out of water."

Tulare County has confirmed their wells have run out of water, and so far hundreds of homes have no running water.

According to the LA Times, rumors are also spreading that Child Protective Services officials will begin taking children away from families who have no running water, although the county claims the rumor is false."

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Are you saying no one in California can buy bottled water.

And why are you rumor mongering, you almost always post fact why the fiction?

Do you want us all to loose respect for you?
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I wouldn't trust a story from any thing he posts. Every site he gets his info from is bullshit.
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Are you saying no one in California can buy bottled water.

And why are you rumor mongering, you almost always post fact why the fiction?
Unfortunately its true WDF. Sure water can be imported but at an extraordinary cost to consumers, businesses and agriculture. A close friend who works with one of the Water Districts in Orange County has implied Californian's are fucked. They have relied on underground reserves (to supplement the current usage) far too long which are themselves at a dangerous low level right now.
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They can turn the ocean water into clean water, so this bull shit to raise my water bill another 200 bucks
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LOL. You actin right playa?

What I don't get is central valley is fucked, LA is fucked for sure and good ol Jerry is inviting all of Mexico in to California. What is he expecting, they'll bring water?

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Unfortunately, that's not cheap and low productive process. Can't say anything about California, but rather soon it will be a global problem for the whole humanity
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Are you saying no one in California can buy bottled water.

And why are you rumor mongering, you almost always post fact why the fiction?

Do you want us all to loose respect for you?
That would be lose and you should go to bed and count 1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3 until you falls sleepy.

Water is a "serious issue" for all the corrupt politicians in California. People who live there are FUCT.
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Watched this series on Netflix, "Utopia." Takes place in UK. Eugenics may be the answer. Sterilization. Sounds like Naziville but think about the alternate reality. I am glad I will be long gone before 2050.
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problem solved... farmers going to use that for their crops too?
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"Water wells in central California have begun to run dry, reports the LA Times. "Extreme drought conditions have become so harsh for the Central Valley community of East Porterville [that] many of its residents dependent on their own wells have run out of water."

Tulare County has confirmed their wells have run out of water, and so far hundreds of homes have no running water.

According to the LA Times, rumors are also spreading that Child Protective Services officials will begin taking children away from families who have no running water, although the county claims the rumor is false."

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well water is running dry because ground water has been consumed, not because of the drought. trillions of gallons of ground water used in the last 10 years v. trillions used in the previous 90 years. ground water takes decades and decades to replenish itself, up to 100 years.

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Are you saying no one in California can buy bottled water.

And why are you rumor mongering, you almost always post fact why the fiction?

Do you want us all to loose respect for you?

the 2 biggest bottled water suppliers in the world are in california and get their water from the ground water supply.
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There's a billion dollar desalination plant going up in San Diego county, but even when it comes online in 2016 it will only offset 7% of that county's water needs at 50 million gallons of output per day. You would need a hell of a lot of billion dollar plants to make enough water for needs as large as California's are.
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There's a billion dollar desalination plant going up in San Diego county, but even when it comes online in 2016 it will only offset 7% of that county's water needs at 50 million gallons of output per day. You would need a hell of a lot of billion dollar plants to make enough water for needs as large as California's are.
it's insane here. we are the world's largest supplier of almonds for instance. Almonds are not native to this region. it takes 1.5 gallons of water per almond to grow almonds.
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Of course we can buy bottled water. But what do we do when we have to shower?
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Dude get "FUCT" yourself!

If you do not like what I post put me on your ignore list.

Do not ever tell me what to do, joking or not, I do not take orders from anonymous nicks on forums.

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Of course we can buy bottled water. But what do we do when we have to shower?
Gee that is a tough one.

Water in a bottle but I need to wash the stank off me. Hmmm!

Ice Bucket Challenge with soap!

Bottled water, Soap, Washcloth, problem solved.

Wait does it rain there? Camping showers work well.

Intelligent humans adapt quickly, others take a little time to figure things out.

If these suggestion are out of reach for the people in California perhaps it is time to relocate.

It is not like no one saw this coming. Why is it a crisis now, because no one could be bothered worrying about it before it happened.

I dealt with water restrictions for almost 25 years before relocating, had a couple of shallow wells dry up also. I adapted to the issues and corrected what I could. Californians need to do the same.

Not trying to be a dick about it but did no one know this could be a factor and was happening before the water started drying up?
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It's kinda hard to rely on just to bottled water. Especially society wide.
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What I don't get is central valley is fucked, LA is fucked for sure and good ol Jerry is inviting all of Mexico in to California. What is he expecting, they'll bring water?
weird isn't he... like he can't see that there are real issues.. for instance ,fuck the water issues. lets build the bullet train into the middle of nowhere and get all the illegals living here ,,
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problem solved... farmers going to use that for their crops too?
Farming relying on massive irrigation is not usually sustainable anyways. Some of the earliest civilizations in Middle East collapsed after land becoming too salty. It seems that California cannot have sustainable farming at current scale or at least with current plants. Some cactus farm maybe or something like that.

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Gee that is a tough one.

Water in a bottle but I need to wash the stank off me. Hmmm!

Ice Bucket Challenge with soap!

Bottled water, Soap, Washcloth, problem solved.

Wait does it rain there? Camping showers work well.

Intelligent humans adapt quickly, others take a little time to figure things out.

If these suggestion are out of reach for the people in California perhaps it is time to relocate.

It is not like no one saw this coming. Why is it a crisis now, because no one could be bothered worrying about it before it happened.

I dealt with water restrictions for almost 25 years before relocating, had a couple of shallow wells dry up also. I adapted to the issues and corrected what I could. Californians need to do the same.

Not trying to be a dick about it but did no one know this could be a factor and was happening before the water started drying up?
it's human nature you're disagreeing with. I'm with you, logic tells us humans should have never populated the entire southwest- california/arizona/nevada especially. From day 1, this entire region was and still is a desert clime that requires massive amounts of water to sustain living conditions.

at least we have some sort of justification- beaches, mountains, etc.- not like a phoenix, az or LV. why the fuck is there a phoenix for instance? There is absolutely nothing about phoenix that justifies the resource drain it demands.
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I agree Dyna, there are a lot of questionable development choices every where. The American South West is no exception.

It isn't that I do not care or have no sympathy for those dealing with this but if you can not sustain life somewhere logic says move where you can.
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I agree Dyna, there are a lot of questionable development choices every where. The American South West is no exception.

It isn't that I do not care or have no sympathy for those dealing with this but if you can not sustain life somewhere logic says move where you can.
I'm curious as to how businesses like arrowhead will be dealt with. It's a 150 year old company that gets every drop of water it sells from california ground water reserves.

Especially in light of the current legislation being introduced to finally stop the "free fill up on ground water" currently in place.

the fact is the party is over. Was reading about the research a couple months ago re: the trillions of gallons of it depleted in the last 10 years. The article went on the say no one knows how much ground water is there but, nevertheless, combine the ground water issue with the epic drought, they are now saying this has an 80%+ chance of being a 10 year d4 drought.



virtually the entire state is currently in d4 drought conditions, this for 10 years = bad news bears.
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You are right - this will be a huge problem for all of mankind.

Desalination is the answer. It's boatloads of cash expensive, but it's the only solution. I've been saying this for years. And finally they are starting to do it, starting in San Diego:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/californ...-in-san-diego/
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Wait does it rain there? Camping showers work well.
If it was raining we would not be in a drought.
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If it was raining we would not be in a drought.
I thought you of all people would understand the point I was making.

You learn to adjust or you relocate.

Sorry if that is inconvenient for those of you in California, but you are not the first land area to deal with drought conditions and you won't be the last either.

The plain fact is commenting about it, bitching, whining, or any other activity that does not involve an actual solution is fruitless.

And discussing it with the brain trust on GFY is certainly not going to remedy the issue.

Like I said before, where were all you concerned citizens years ago when you could have made a difference with action or laws?

How many of you paid it any attention when water was still flowing from the tap?

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And why are you rumor mongering, you almost always post fact why the fiction?

Do you want us all to loose respect for you?
Try taking a shower using bottled water
My bill last month was $214.54, that is more than twice what I paid last year.. This drought sucks
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a correction to my previous comment, the groundwater problem is a side-effect of the drought.

I was also wrong about the amount, it's not 3 trillion gallons gone in the last 10 years, it's 63 trillion gallons used/dried-up since 2013

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In the snow-starved mountains of California, the Earth rose up to 0.6 inches.
The ongoing drought in the western United States has caused so much loss of groundwater that the Earth, on average, has lifted up about 0.16 inches over the last 18 months, according to a new study.

The situation was even worse in the snow-starved mountains of California, where the Earth rose up to 0.6 inches.



Researchers from UC San Diego’s Scripps Institution of Oceanography and the U.S. Geological Survey estimated the groundwater loss from the start of 2013 to be 63 trillion gallons — the equivalent of flooding four inches of water across the United States west of the Rocky Mountains.
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a correction to my previous comment, the groundwater problem is a side-effect of the drought.
California has also used and uses "fossile water", that is like other fossile resources: quite slow to replenish.

"There are two types of aquifers: replenishable and nonreplenishable (or fossil) aquifers. Most of the aquifers in India and the shallow aquifer under the North China Plain are replenishable. When these are depleted, the maximum rate of pumping is automatically reduced to the rate of recharge.

For fossil aquifers—such as the vast U.S. Ogallala aquifer, the deep aquifer under the North China Plain, or the Saudi aquifer—depletion brings pumping to an end."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...-Breadbaskets#

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/...-breadbaskets/

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California has also used and uses "fossile water", that is like other fossile resources: quite slow to replenish.

"There are two types of aquifers: replenishable and nonreplenishable (or fossil) aquifers. Most of the aquifers in India and the shallow aquifer under the North China Plain are replenishable. When these are depleted, the maximum rate of pumping is automatically reduced to the rate of recharge.

For fossil aquifers?such as the vast U.S. Ogallala aquifer, the deep aquifer under the North China Plain, or the Saudi aquifer?depletion brings pumping to an end."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...-Breadbaskets#

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/...-breadbaskets/
that's a good article, thanks, I wasn't aware that all of the world's vital agricultural regions were being impacted like this also.

Also, I think groundwater is another term for fossil water. The 63 trillion gallons gone from this region since 2013 are from the acquifer of this region, but i can't recall the name of it.
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I don't think that the groundwater in here means solely fossile water. Probably they don't separate "water types" in those figures, so it is replenishing water and fossile water. As there was in those articles that when replenishing water is pumped out momentarily (as in drought), they use fossile water to fill the difference.

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Try taking a shower using bottled water
My bill last month was $214.54, that is more than twice what I paid last year.. This drought sucks
I never said it was convenient just do-able.

Sounds to me like you should relocate elsewhere if it is too much for you to handle though.
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Gee that is a tough one.

Water in a bottle but I need to wash the stank off me. Hmmm!

Ice Bucket Challenge with soap!

Bottled water, Soap, Washcloth, problem solved.

Wait does it rain there? Camping showers work well.

Intelligent humans adapt quickly, others take a little time to figure things out.

If these suggestion are out of reach for the people in California perhaps it is time to relocate.

It is not like no one saw this coming. Why is it a crisis now, because no one could be bothered worrying about it before it happened.

I dealt with water restrictions for almost 25 years before relocating, had a couple of shallow wells dry up also. I adapted to the issues and corrected what I could. Californians need to do the same.

Not trying to be a dick about it but did no one know this could be a factor and was happening before the water started drying up?
So basically my options are to shower with bottled water or move? Sure sure.
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I don't think that the groundwater in here means solely fossile water. Probably they don't separate "water types" in those figures, so it is replenishing water and fossile water. As there was in those articles that when replenishing water is pumped out momentarily (as in drought), they use fossile water to fill the difference.
the ogallaga aquifer you mentioned earlier, the big one here, is a fossil water aquifer.
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So basically my options are to shower with bottled water or move? Sure sure.
You can use seawater for showering, although not quite ideal as it's salty and you would need another water pipe. Still, better than being dirty 24/7.
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