Business Who's shooting in 4k?

[NatalieK]

Hi, we're considering buying a 4k camera, if any, a lumixG panasonic look worth more for the money. Who's shooting with 4k? What program's best to use for editing, can all programs handle the data? Is Gary correct, the amount of data downloading to edit the footage, COULD possibly be too much for our laptop, as our pc's down at the moment, so looking at new pc's.

I think hd is plenty for porn. After watching the youtube clips with differences from HD & 4k, 4k looks great for filming nature, with distant, outdoor & movement shooting. But there really seems no need with close up action with lighting in 4k

What's your thoughts?

[Jay-Rock]

I am shooting with 2 Panasonic GH4 cameras and even though I am downsampling to 1080p you get tons more detail and dynamic range. You definitely need something with fast hard drives and an up to date graphics card for editing.

[Elli]

I've been looking into it, too. Not all NLEs can handle true 4k. There are a couple schools of thought on processing workflows. And of course the hard drive space... but I remember that was an issue when 1080p came out, too. Onward and upward we go!

If you can see pimples and scars at 1080p, what can you see at 4k? *cringe*

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Elli

I've been looking into it, too. Not all NLEs can handle true 4k. There are a couple schools of thought on processing workflows. And of course the hard drive space... but I remember that was an issue when 1080p came out, too. Onward and upward we go!

If you can see pimples and scars at 1080p, what can you see at 4k? *cringe*

Absolutely

I think most models are going to say no to being shot in 4k, lol I remember saying to Gary, I'm not having HD vid of me on the net, but then it still happened

For now I think we'll just continue with 1080p as this seems enough for the average persons screen & it doesn't seem needed to use with editing & zooming in or stabilizing with filming people

[Bladewire]

With so much of our content viewed online, and our DVD demographic aging ( and no longer quick adapters ) I'm thinking 4k has limited value for even the highest quality online adult content.

Down sampling and a little more magic in post yes, but value for money to consumer, I'm not seeing it at this point.

[DamianJ]

Gary, stop pretending to be Natalie.

Seeing as I joined your site and saw your content, I'd concentrate on learning how to edit, shoot and light content before you waste your money on 4K. It truly is the most appalling quality I've ever seen.

Most importantly, you are shooting amateur. Why on earth would you even consider 4K? Know your niche.

Dur.

[sinclair]

Originally Posted by Jay-Rock

I am shooting with 2 Panasonic GH4 cameras and even though I am downsampling to 1080p you get tons more detail and dynamic range. You definitely need something with fast hard drives and an up to date graphics card for editing.

What he said.

I'm shooting two camera set up, Panasonic GH4 and Sony A7S. 4k edit on stacked iMac in Premiere Pro with no issues but it is system intensive for sure. Have only shot a handful of porn scenes with this set up but its great for interviews, profile pieces and docu work.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Hi, we're considering buying a 4k camera, if any, a lumixG panasonic look worth more for the money. Who's shooting with 4k? What program's best to use for editing, can all programs handle the data? Is Gary correct, the amount of data downloading to edit the footage, COULD possibly be too much for our laptop, as our pc's down at the moment, so looking at new pc's.

I think hd is plenty for porn. After watching the youtube clips with differences from HD & 4k, 4k looks great for filming nature, with distant, outdoor & movement shooting. But there really seems no need with close up action with lighting in 4k

What's your thoughts?

higher bandwidth charge on the member downloads

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

I think most models are going to say no to being shot in 4k...

LOL

"Most models" have no clue WTF 4k is.

[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Gary, stop pretending to be Natalie.

Seeing as I joined your site and saw your content, I'd concentrate on learning how to edit, shoot and light content before you waste your money on 4K. It truly is the most appalling quality I've ever seen.

Most importantly, you are shooting amateur. Why on earth would you even consider 4K? Know your niche.

Dur.

What's your problem with them?

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by TurboAngel

What's your problem with them?

He posted CP here, was permabanned and now is using his wife's account to evade the ban.

He also pimps his wife out for £50 bareback sex and claims he can tell if someone has AIDS by looking at them.

Aside from that, nothing.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

He posted CP here, was permabanned and now is using his wife's account to evade the ban.

He also pimps his wife out for £50 bareback sex and claims he can tell if someone has AIDS by looking at them.

Aside from that, nothing.

Post Proof or be banned.

At no point does my partner pimp me out! At no point has my partner said he can tell if someone has AIDs just by looking at them ( you stupid boy! ) I was with him those years ago, his comments we're about communication & speaking to our clients, we reserve the right to offer bareback & have refused on several occasions! & at no point did my partner post CP photos here or anywhere! He posted a legit photo of a girl hotlinked from a legal paysite. She was 18 or 19, she looked like she was 16 year old & continued to begin a controversial thread regarding the age of adult production & model criteria!

As usual, you continued to troll the both of us, like when you began your blog & said you was me, asking guys to meet me for fun at mc donalds, the same restaurant my son & other children dined at!

You lie, cheat & defile the adult business! Both of us as fed up with your lies & harassment! Post proof of all of your statements

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Elli

I've been looking into it, too. Not all NLEs can handle true 4k. There are a couple schools of thought on processing workflows. And of course the hard drive space... but I remember that was an issue when 1080p came out, too. Onward and upward we go!

If you can see pimples and scars at 1080p, what can you see at 4k? *cringe*

Originally Posted by AaronM

LOL

"Most models" have no clue WTF 4k is.

What are you saying? Models are stupid?

When my partner mentioned HD, I, and most models cringed knowing every details is focused upon

[Jay-Rock]

Most companies that can afford 4k can afford talent that doesn't have the flaws most are tying to cover up or have a great makeup artist for this purpose. For low budget talent shoot them in SD lol. As for the beautiful girls with nice skin and pretty vaginas I would love to see all that detail.

[Jay-Rock]

If you want to make girls with bad skin look decent you could always use a program like MOJO

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Elli

I've been looking into it, too. Not all NLEs can handle true 4k. There are a couple schools of thought on processing workflows. And of course the hard drive space... but I remember that was an issue when 1080p came out, too. Onward and upward we go!

If you can see pimples and scars at 1080p, what can you see at 4k? *cringe*

I thought the same when 1080p was first came out and a lot of the first stuff we had coming in had those problems, but only because it was new. It needs to be shot better in general and people didn't get away with as much and it has come a long way. 4k is no different, if anything its SO good it gives it a natural 3d feel to it and you see textures from all depths instead of just the model so this helps.

It's definitely an expensive upgrade and involves a learning curve both with producers and the people encoding it for their sites, so I understand why some of you would be hesitant or have doubts, but it absolutely is the future of high end content and it is already getting popular--fast.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Jay-Rock

Most companies that can afford 4k can afford talent that doesn't have the flaws most are tying to cover up or have a great makeup artist for this purpose. For low budget talent shoot them in SD lol. As for the beautiful girls with nice skin and pretty vaginas I would love to see all that detail.

Personally, I was thinking from our content & our productions, at present, mainly myself as the model, a perfect pussy, or so I've been told

I have nice skin & am not too concerned with any details, it's just HD began to bring up any pimple that anyone or any girl can get that day. If 4K is worthy, surfer & membership worthy, then tbh 4k can be cost effective, with regards to a cpl of cameras we have seen on the market.

I just don't see the point of us spending another cpl of grand if business isn't going to change, has 4k really bought in the worthy amount extra to you?

[MiamiBoyz]

Razor burn and herpes sores are bad enough in HD!

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Post Proof or be banned.

At no point does my partner pimp me out! At no point has my partner said he can tell if someone has AIDs just by looking at them ( you stupid boy! ) I was with him those years ago, his comments we're about communication & speaking to our clients, we reserve the right to offer bareback & have refused on several occasions! & at no point did my partner post CP photos here or anywhere! He posted a legit photo of a girl hotlinked from a legal paysite. She was 18 or 19, she looked like she was 16 year old & continued to begin a controversial thread regarding the age of adult production & model criteria!

As usual, you continued to troll the both of us, like when you began your blog & said you was me, asking guys to meet me for fun at mc donalds, the same restaurant my son & other children dined at!

You lie, cheat & defile the adult business! Both of us as fed up with your lies & harassment! Post proof of all of your statements

http://www.wouj.com/gary.htm

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

Razor burn and herpes sores are bad enough in HD!

maybe, but also just usual pimples that appear lol.


But hey, I never mind close video in HD personally, my pussy hasn't razor burns & we've never had any STD.

My partner has been very pre cautious with this! Always asking what & where others have been.

I'm very happy with my body in close HD.

But still asking, is 4k worthy for traffic?

[suesheboy]

With the Panasonic can you shoot 4k, archive it and then convert immediately to 1080 and edit with that?

I am shooting stock for mainstream nature shots outdoors and though 4k is not needed, my thought is shoot for the future to save re-shooting in the near future.

[suesheboy]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

With the Panasonic can you shoot 4k, archive it and then convert immediately to 1080 and edit with that?

Scratch my question. Looks like a consumer 4k Sony will have enough to get the job done for me.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/...00-4k-handycam

Edit:Scratch everything again. Camera is not steady enough and not in my opinion "field ready"

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

At no point does my partner pimp me out!

Well Gary, you run the accounts on SW, twitter, etc, offering people the chance to have sex with her for money. That is the definition of pimping.

See this:

"welcomed to check out my monthly deal @ http://www.adultwork.com/luv2fuc

3 day mini break, at my apartment in Spain for 1.5k all inc x'

That is you pimping your missus.

Maybe you ran to spain because you are being done for living on immoral earnings?

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

at no point did my partner post CP photos here or anywhere! He posted a legit photo of a girl hotlinked from a legal paysite. She was 18 or 19, she looked like she was 16 year old & continued to begin a controversial thread regarding the age of adult production & model criteria!

No, it was an underage girl, which is why you got banned and the thread went on about how fucking stupid you were posting CP here.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Well Gary, you run the accounts on SW, twitter, etc, offering people the chance to have sex with her for money. That is the definition of pimping.

See this:

"welcomed to check out my monthly deal @ http://www.adultwork.com/luv2fuc

3 day mini break, at my apartment in Spain for 1.5k all inc x'

That is you pimping your missus.

Maybe you ran to spain because you are being done for living on immoral earnings?



No, it was an underage girl, which is why you got banned and the thread went on about how fucking stupid you were posting CP here.

First, wise arse, I'm Natalie you fucking joke, yes, we offer a weekend away, a mini break with my partner offering food on the BBQ, in Spain, & I entertain in the evenings, an amazing weekend break if anyone's interested. I'm also on cam there too, so hey, nice to think I'm a guy pretending, but you've just proven you're a cock when my cam is on!

second, it was a legit site the photo was hotlinked from, she was 18 but looked younger.
You really need to have your head examined or get you some, fucking idiot!

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

Scratch my question. Looks like a consumer 4k Sony will have enough to get the job done for me.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/...00-4k-handycam

Edit:Scratch everything again. Camera is not steady enough and not in my opinion "field ready"

Do you think this camera could have flaws, we was looking at the panasonic, it seems stable & worthy

[DVTimes]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

she was 18 but looked younger.

So if you felt she looked under 18, you agree it was wrong to post such a pic?

Why would you post a pic of someone who looks under aged regardless if she was 18 or not.

Do you have evidence she was 18 or older?

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by DVTimes

So if you felt she looked under 18, you agree it was wrong to post such a pic?

Why would you post a pic of someone who looks under aged regardless if she was 18 or not.

Do you have evidence she was 18 or older?

Stop addressing your posts to me!

? my boyfriend wasn't wrong to hotlink to a legit photo of a girl above legal age!

I think you did the same the other day! The image of a girl, some people mentioned looked young!

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

First, wise arse, I'm Natalie you fucking joke, yes, we offer a weekend away, a mini break with my partner offering food on the BBQ, in Spain, & I entertain in the evenings, an amazing weekend break if anyone's interested. I'm also on cam there too, so hey, nice to think I'm a guy pretending, but you've just proven you're a cock when my cam is on!

Oh Gary, just try writing in a different style, then people might believe you.

But, you said you didn't pimp out Nat, and I showed you were pimping her out, selling her on AW. Sorry you find this confusing.

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

second, it was a legit site the photo was hotlinked from, she was 18 but looked younger.
You really need to have your head examined or get you some, fucking idiot!

Well, you got permabanned for it. So deny it all you like, but the truth is obvious.

[Jay-Rock]

Originally Posted by suesheboy

With the Panasonic can you shoot 4k, archive it and then convert immediately to 1080 and edit with that?

I am shooting stock for mainstream nature shots outdoors and though 4k is not needed, my thought is shoot for the future to save re-shooting in the near future.

Its really easy edit 4k on a 1080 timeline if you have a good system. Shoot in 4k and publish in 1080 is the way to go right now.

[Jay-Rock]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

maybe, but also just usual pimples that appear lol.


But hey, I never mind close video in HD personally, my pussy hasn't razor burns & we've never had any STD.

My partner has been very pre cautious with this! Always asking what & where others have been.

I'm very happy with my body in close HD.

But still asking, is 4k worthy for traffic?

Think of the future your content with be broadcast worthy for decades instead of becoming obsolete. Broadcasting is a market that will be hungry for 4k content in the near future and as bandwidth speed increases so will demand for 4k content online.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Jay-Rock

Think of the future your content with be broadcast worthy for decades instead of becoming obsolete. Broadcasting is a market that will be hungry for 4k content in the near future and as bandwidth speed increases so will demand for 4k content online.

oh so true

[TurboAngel]

Wow sorry I asked.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Jay-Rock

Think of the future your content with be broadcast worthy for decades instead of becoming obsolete. Broadcasting is a market that will be hungry for 4k content in the near future and as bandwidth speed increases so will demand for 4k content online.

You obviously haven't seen his content if you think broadcasters will want it. He couldn't give it away to pirates.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by DamianJ

You obviously haven't seen his content if you think broadcasters will want it. He couldn't give it away to pirates.

My partner is damn good with the camera! We have some excellent scenes shot from over the years. Covering every niche!

Can you stop harassing every thread we start! This isn't going to continue for much longer! I'm sick of your mentality & constant trolling! I'm amazed you haven't been banned yet! One of the rules of GFY, no harassing!

This is a business thread regarding 4k camera shooting, nothing to do with your line of business.

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